Finally
I found the despicable address of this despicable organization.
This
person claims to have left Islam.
From:
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"Kevin
Mangan" <[email protected]>
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Subject:
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Re: A Letter to
Mankind
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Date:
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Sat, 11 Sep 2004
02:21:05 +0900
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Dear Mr. Sina,
It comes as a quite a surprise that you should
email me after removing my articles from your website after
questionining who was behind 9/11.
This was the first clue that I knew I was on to
something and, indeed, was the impetus for me to start reading more on
this hoax, and much more. I am now 100% sure it was a diabolical ploy to
defame Muslims and give a pretext to invade a Muslim country.
Furthermore, the fact that you are sending out this
letter at this time confirms to me without a doubt either a) you are an
utter fake or b) utterly misinformed and misguided. Your attack should
be on Wahhabisim and the rulers of
Saudi Arabia
, not Islam. Bush is a phony and the
US
is being blindsided by Israeli interests. I do not need to go further as
I know you know what I know.
Please kindly refrain from sending me any more of
your propaganda. Enough said.
Kevin Mangan
Mr. Kevin Mangan
You received that
letter because by mistake your email has been saved in my address
book. I shall remove your email address and you'll not receive anymore
letters from me. Until God give you a little bit of brain.
Indeed, I thank God he gave me a brain, and one not
to brainwashed. I am no fan of Islam as you know, but I can see the
bigger picture. Anyway, thank you for removing
me from you address book. And peace be with you.
Kevin Mangan
Read
this article: Even Muslims are coming out and
apologizing for terrorism and you still believe in conspiracy theories?
I am still to find one fool who actually agrees being a fool!
Ali Sina
My reply is found below. When you can reply to this
intelligently please spare me your insults of calling me a fool.
I rest my case.
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pentagon.html
Kevin Mangan
Dear
Kevin
What
do you think is the definition of fool then?
Fool is one who is deficient in judgment, sense, or
understanding. Osama
Bin Laden admitted of masterminding the 9/11 attack.
The 19 who perpetrated this
crime were all identified. The Muslims call them “Magnificent
19” and hold them as heroes.
And you still believe in
those stupid conspiracy theories created for fools and are offended when
I call you fool?
I publish this
correspondence. Of course since in your opinion you demonstrated your
superior intellect, you should be thankful and proud.
Ali Sina
This was personal correspondence so I ask that
you kindly remove it. Thank you.
Kevin Mangan
Dear Kevin
I do not see anything
personal or private in our correspondence. The subject matter is very
much public and of everyone’s interest. Your views need to be heard
also and I provide you with that opportunity. Are you not going to stand
behind your words? Who knows, may be you are right and as you claimed
you are "on to something". May be we are fools after
all.
Did you see the above links? See
this one too.
Even the most extremist
Muslims who think Bin Laden is a "great leader" are admitting
that he did it and you still deny it? What would it take so you change
your mind when the confession of the accused is not enough? You get
carried away with total nonsense and become "100% convinced"
that 9/11 was a conspiracy to give bad name to Muslims. You are capable
of thinking that the American Government deliberately killed thousands
of American citizens. The stupidity of this thought does not make you
doubt it. The
bragging of Osama that he did it does not make you doubt that he did it, the praising of the Muslims of these
criminals that they call "Magnificent 19" and the fact that they
show even their pictures and all the other obvious evidences do not make you
doubt even 1% that Osama may be behind this. So you object being called
a fool. What do you call this frame of mind then?
Ali Sina
hello
Mr. Sina,
I
have a question to ask you. What right do you have to criticize
Islam. And I also ask you three questions,
Dear
Mr. Faisal H.
Any
human being has the right to criticize any thing that he wishes. This is
the indelible right of free people. You do criticize all the ideologies
and religions liberally and quite vocally. However as a Muslim you think
no one is allowed to criticize Islam. I am afraid freedom of expression
is not a one way street. We all have freedom to criticize any idea that
we wish and no one should stop us.
What
I say about Islam is either true or it is not. If it is true then why in
the hell you want to stop me from telling the truth? If it is false then
you should be able to prove me wrong. I have a forum that is open to
everyone. Dispute my claims and show I am mistaken. If you can do that I
have promised to remove this site. This is more than fair. Do any
Islamic site have an offer like this? No! In fact they won’t allow you
to disagree with them. Actually they won’t even allow anyone posting a
link to sites that disagrees with them. In other words Muslims are lions
where there is no other contender. But
where there is no contender even a mouse can pretend to be a lion.
1.
Do the Taliban represent all Muslims and Islam?
Yes
the Taliban represent the true Islam. They follow the Quran and Sunnah
meticulously and they are more Muslims than all other Muslims.
2.
Name one place in the quran which states that it is ok to kill innocent
people.
8:12,
8:15-16,
8:60,
8:65,
9:5,
9:3,
9:14,
9:29,
9:73,
9:123,
47:4,
In
all the above verses the instruction is to wage war against the
unbelievers, and kill them. All it takes to be eligible for Muslim’s
wrath and be killed by them is disbelief in the sick religion of Islam.
If this was the teaching of another religion telling its followers to
kill the Muslims if they disbelieve you would have made hell of this
earth. You can't even take a simple criticism, how you would have
behaved if someone said kill the Muslims or subdue them and force them
to pay a penalty tax?
3.
What religion do you follow?
I
follow the religion of love and the Golden Rule and I am the Prophet of
my own religion. I invite others to do the same. Don’t be a follower
but a prophet unto your own.
This
is a fourth question but it is important.
4.
Why do you not have a similar website on christianity?
Because
Christianity is not a threat to the World peace! Because the terrorists
who kill people every day and have no mercy even on children are Muslims
and not Christians. Because we never hear Christians murdering other
human beings and shouting Jesus is great. Because the prophet of the
Christians never said kill others in my name. In fact he said turn the
other cheek, something for which Muslims mock him. Christianity has no
teaching for killing people. The Quran has hundreds of verses that
instruct people to wage war and kill. In fact Muhammad says war is good
for us.
“Fighting is prescribed for
you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which
is good for you”? (Q.2:216).
“Unless
ye go forth, He (Allah) will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put
others in your place”? (Q.9:39).
Kind regards
Ali Sina
Look, i visited your website... n i was just thinking to my
self WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE YOU ON ABOUT. Look u obviously hate the
religion of god, but dere aint no point u making no stupid websites that
is sooo against islam via propaganda.... first of all the people cutting
them selves are doing that out of choice because Our islamic leaders
have clearly forbidden such act...
So do not use propaganda in such issues... secondly
terorism AMERICAN GOVERNMENT, ISRAELI GOVERNMENT, and ENGLISH GOVERNMENT
THOSE ARE TERORISTS.... those IDIOTS are the ones causing muslims to act
in such a violent way... we are violent only in defense of our own land
and religion.
Who do you think you are in spreading such CRAP to
the world... all im gnna say Is
may god guide ya well n enlighten ure path cos u obviously have no clue
about wot ure chattin bout... any ways this is like 4 mins a waste of my
time trying to correct a ronged man/woman... Laterz n pls do seriously
think about dis encouraging propaganda rather than using it...
bye
Ali Sina (or whoever you are!),
I have answers to each and every lie of yours
about Islam and holy Prophet (Pbuh). But why should I or other Muslims
waste our time on a fool like you.
The more we or the intellectuals talk about you or
try to clarify your dirty accusations, the more publicity you 're sure
to get. That's exactly what you are vying for and that's we don't want
to give you.
You can post your messages, keep your site -
nobody is going to prove you anything.
You have mentioned that you don't believe in God.
That's it! When you don't have a faith or don't know what a faith
is, then why are you insulting peoples intelligence.
A man who don't believe in God is talking about
faith, world, heavens, hell, peace, humans and Prophets.......biggest
joke of the century.
Imtiyaz Ahmed
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