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"dfdf vdf" <[email protected]>
28 Feb 2002
Hey Motherfucker Ali,
you think u can hide, we will caught u and hang u by
he balls, you son of a bitch.
you are saying bad about islam, and our holy prophet mohammed, who was
a saint, and who respected women, and that is why he married women.
we will do a holy jihad against you, so we might
caught you, and tell the jihad people to hang u for making the holy koran
look bad. Islam is a purest religion in the world, and we will make every
person of earth a muslim, and until then we will not rest. Fuck all the
other religions, islam is and will be the best religion. islam will take
by force what is ours. You are not a muslims, u fucking mother fucker, son
of a bitch, you mother is a whore, your father is a faget, and i will take
he pleasure of fucking ur daughter, if u have any. Your mother was fuck
by wolves or by infedels fuckers, to make a child like u, u mother fucker.
I wish muslims can go and destroy ur family and u,
mother fucker
regards
Khalid
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"Abdul Saad" <[email protected]>
20 Feb 2002
Hello
here,
I am a Muslim, but I
write no threats or mean no harm. In fact, I am amused that you have
created this web-site, which is very well put together may I say, to
create an attack on Islam. It intrigues me that one man could campaign so
hard against a faith which millions follow. It also intrigues me that you
have obviously devoted so much time and energy into your cause, while
Muslims around the world live their lives and prosper. Sure the Arab world
is in disarray, but you know what, we are alive, we have emigrated to all
over the world, we have spread, we live fruitful lives, and we are happy.
Muslims are joyous people, as are Christians and Jews and all the people
of this universe. I think you have a hidden agenda, but let me tell you,
you will not succeed. Islam is the true faith, and this web-site displays
o me how much you hate it, ur obviously not a Musllim, so ur missing out
mate!
From Sydney
Australia-The Olympic City
A happy, educated
Muslim, not a bitter and twisted man with a hidden agenda (U)
Alsalamoo ALaykoum
and May God Have Mercy On Your Soul On Judgement Day
Please feel free to
reply to my e-mail, if u can still stand ur anger after u have read my
e-mail.
Ali
Sina responds:
Dear Abdul Saad,
Your letter was not an angry
one. In fact it was very polite and educated. You should read the
Muslim’s comments in my site to see angry emails. ;-)
You are absolutely right. I
hate Islam. I hate Islam for the same reason I hate Nazism, KKK or other
hate mongering ideologies. Hate in the name of race or religion is hate
and we have to fight against it. But my agenda is not hidden. It is very
clear and I have expressed it right in the introduction to my site at the
front page. I want Islam be eradicated. There is no secret about it. I
consider Islam to be a disease that brings misery, ignorance, barbarity
and death to its victims. I saw what Islam did to my country that once was
a cultural giant and now is a third world country. Iran wrote the first
charter of Human Rights giving all its citizens equality of rights and of
beliefs. Today Iran is a terrorist country with hundreds of thousands of
its children rotting in jail and millions more living as refugees
hroughout the world.
You say Muslims are prospering.
Only those Muslims who lave abandoned their Islamic countries and now live
in Kafir land are prospering, those who are still left behind are in
abject poverty. Only their corrupt religious and political leaders are
prospering. Islam does have no place for democracy. No Islamic country is
democratic and if a weak democracy is established soon the Islamists will
uproot it and establish the religious dictatorship.
You call my efforts a
one-man-campaign. That is hardly so. There are millions of intellectual
ex-Muslims who think like me and many of them are actively writing and
fighting to educate their fellow Muslim brothers and sisters and wean them
from this cult.
You say I will never succeed.
This is to be seen in a short time. Truth will always succeed. The reason
Islam has grown up until now is because it suffocated any voice of reason,
killed its opponents and burned their books. But the Internet has changed
everything. Now the Muslims are powerless to stop the spread of the truth
and many intellectual Muslims are seeing the truth for the first time and
safely renounce this cult. Faith Freedom International is a movement of
intellectuals, mostly of Islamic origin. We are all active and dedicated
o bring sanity to our people and uproot the cult of Islam.
I invite you to go through our
site and read the articles that we wrote, if you think we are mistaken
hen please write back and let us know. Otherwise please join us and be a
positive force in the elimination of superstitions and hateful beliefs and
he establishment of peace in the world. Do not become blinded by
prejudice. Analyze Islam as if you were introduced to it for the first
ime. Assume it is another religion that you are studying. Would you
believe in a religion whose founder assassinated his opponents? Would you
follow a man who could not control his sexual and animalistic instincts,
who slept with his prisoners of war, who lusted after his own daughter in
law, who raped a 9 year old girl? Would you believe in a man who was
mistaken in everything he said, who believed that the Earth is flat, who
hought the sun goes and prostrates every evening in front of Allah’s
hrone asks permission to rise and one day the permission will be denied
and it will rise from the west? Would you believe a man who thought genies
are real beings and stars are missiles that Allah throws at them as
“shooting stars” when they climb on each other’s shoulder to reach
he heaven and eavesdrop the conversation of the “exalted assembly”?
Islam is full of ridiculous
hings. Can any educated man believe in that nonsense? Do you think it is
okay for you to beat your wife if she is found disobedient to you? Do you
hink it is your duty to make Jihad and kill the non-Muslims and make
Islam the only religion on Earth?
If your answer to all these
questions is yes, then you are a Muslim and should remain as such. But if
you think these are ridiculous do not try to be apologetic and explain the
unexplainable. Do not limit yourself in ignorance. Walk to the light and
be enlightened.
Regards
Ali Sina
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"Darryl Miller" [email protected]
14 Feb 2002
You wrote:
"I attack the absurd teachings of Islam but not
hose who believe in them. I consider those who believe in Islam honest
and good people many of whom are misguided.
Many Muslims agree with me that Islam needs to be reformed and this is my
goal."
I read your quote from a response of Yahia H El-Shall dated Dec. 15. 2001.
I disagree with your views, and goal to reform Islam.
You do not know the Qur'an, or Sunnah, or for that matter, anything about
Islam. I laughed when I read "I attack the absurd teachings of Islam
but not those who believe in them." What a paradox!!!
Since it is your goal to reform Islam, let me inform
you of the fact that you will fail.
I want your websight to stay put, so that Muslims all
over the world can learn of someone who is so far from the truth that it
is laughable. Last comment, I, for sure would not like to be you, on the
Day of Judgment, when you will testify against yourself as to the lies you
write and speak.
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"My
open letter to Dr. Ali Sina
From: Sakra
Nagai
Date: 09 Feb 2002
Time: 16:14:10
Comments
Dear Dr. Ali Sina,
Now, I do not expect
hat I will be able to change the way in which you think and I certainly
do not presume that I will be able to do so. However, I would appreciate
it if you would read the following with a relaxed and open mind and
perhaps you will be able to see that Islam is such an 'evil' in the world.
"In my school of
hought, beliefs do not deserve any respect. They must be confronted,
scrutinized and if found faulty, criticized and rejected. But people must
be rejected." (http://www.faithfreedom.org/faq1.htm#7)
Well, I am glad that
you think people must be respected. However, I am concerned that you feel
beliefs do not deserve ANY respect. Surely, a person is moulded by their
beliefs. It becomes part of their make up and is reflected in their
everyday lives, and essentially in their very selves. Can one truly be
judged independent of one's beliefs? If one is not to be jufged on one's
beliefs, on what is one to be judged? Surely, one's actions are going to
be a reflection of one's beliefs.
I understandthat in
our society, and in the world that we now live we expect everything to be
proved to us, we need to know by how many % it is successful. This is the
reality where everything must be practical. However, this is not what
religion is about. Religion is about faith, it is about belief, trust, and
an acceptance that we are but mere humans. Why do you feel the need to
scrutinise other people's beliefs? Who are you to judge whether they are
faulty? What authority do you have that allow you to reject them? If you
indeed feel the need to find fault in people's beliefs then do you feel
he need to do so with all religions? Must we reject Christianity as
surely the miracles that Jesus is claimed to have performed cannot be
proved? Could you possibly entertain the idea that perhaps your views are
arrogant and you are failing to comprehend that in some people's lives
religion is more than something to be dissected on in a website.
Often parallels are
made between Nazism and Islam, (as well as Nazis and Muslims)
While understanding
hat you no doubt feel very strongly about this subject, I do not feel the
direct comparisons made between the two above mentioned groups strengthen
your argument. The Nazis were a political party voted in democratically
into a country whose economy was in ruins, whose people were angry and
disheartened. They embraced the powerful image that was presented to them,
and felt that by blaming their problems on the Jews a huge weight had been
lifted, However, Nazism was not just about hatred, Hitler wanted to avenge
he wrongs he felt, as did many Germans, Germany had suffered at the hands
of the Allies. I would like to stress that by no means do I think that his
dictatorship was good and nor can it be excused, but it most certainly
cannot be compared to areligion. Compare it to Stalin's regime in Russia,
I think you will have more joy there.
The quotes from the
Koran were indeed ***shocking*** however does it also say:
[109.6] You shall have
your religion and I shall have my religion.
[83.34] So today those
who believe shall laugh at the unbelievers;
[3.16] Those who say:
Our Lord! we believe, therefore forgive us our faults and save us from the
chastisement of the fire.
[3.31] Say: If you
love Allah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your
faults, and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
The quotes refer to
"unbelievers" but surely many religions claim that other
religions are sinful and only that one is 'true'.
These are some quotes
from the Bible also about 'unbelievers', it is not only Islam that
condemns them to hell and damnation.
"For God did not
spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into
gloomy dungeons to be held for judgement"
"But if an
unbeliever or someone who does not understand comes in while everybody is
prophesying, he will be convinced by all that he is a sinner and will be
judged by all."
"The master of
hat servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour
he is not ware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with
he unbelievers."
Punishment for sins
whatever they may be also feature in the religion, does this sound fair to
you?
"The LORD is slow
o anger, abounding in love and forgiving sin and rebellion. Yet he does
not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children for the sin of
he fathers to the third and fourth generation."
Can this be seen as
acceptable?
"If aman beats
his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result,
he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up
after a day or two, since the slave is his property."
One cannot take a few
quotes from a "Holy Book" and use them to summarise a whole
religion. It is this naivete that leads to extremist views both within and
about a religion. The concept upon which religions are based is having
faith, and consequently bringing hope and meaning to one's existence.
I do not presume to
know all there is to know about Islam, and I think that perhaps this is
something you too could plead guilty too. Religion is something that
cannot be analysed on paper and however much two opposing opinions are
expressed there is no experiment that will give a conclusive answer as to,
which is correct, and what is true. I put it to you, that if you truly
feel that you have to "fight" Islam and then surely you have to
fight every single religion, every strain of every religion and every
person who holds some belief in the existence of God, another dimension,
another world. If you wish to reject everything that cannot be proved,
hat does not embrace everything and everyone, then in order to win your
battle you will have destroy every shred of the world in which we live.
Having rid the world of religion will you create an existence based purely
upon science or perhaps create a religion and expect everyone to convert
o your way of thinking.....Religions and the cultures that they have made
and have embraced them have built our world, and you presume you have the
right to abolish one of the six main religions.......?!
In the world in which
we live today, it is not Islam that threatens the diversity of our world.
It is the dominating power of the United States that now threatens this.
It is this power we can hold responsible for much of the hatred in the
Islamic society, and now the hatred of Islam. I do not judge you, nor do I
condemn you for your way of thinking. Propaganda is such that your views
are not entirely surprising. Before you totally denounce Islam perhaps you
could spend some time looking at the devastation the US has caused in many
Arab countries.
Regards,
Sakra Nagai
Re: My open letter to Dr. Ali Sina
From: a
fan
Date: 09 Feb 2002
Time: 18:07:08
Comments
Again we see the
ypical Islamic response to any criticism: "Islam is good because
other systems are bad (or just as bad)." There is no ability or
attempt to answer the charges honestly or debate the issues intelligently.
We have seen these
"arguments" again and again and again, and they do not convince
us -- by now they simply bore us.
Is your belief system
so devoid of value that you cannot come up with a better argument than
"the other guy is just as bad as I am?"
Shame.
Re: My open letter to Dr. Ali Sina
From: murtadza
Date: 09 Feb 2002
Time: 20:46:52
Comments
Dr.Sina, Allow me to
answer one point.
Nagai-san,
." Why do you
feel the need to scrutinize other people's beliefs? Who are you to judge
whether they are faulty? What authority do you have that allow you to
reject them? If you indeed feel the need to find fault in people's beliefs
hen do you feel the need to do so with all religions?"
It clearly shows that
you ask such questions as a result of your native Japanese culture and
values.
My friend, it is Islam
hat condemns all other religion as false and non-believers supposedly
will rot in hell.It is Islam that scrutanizes & judges others as being
faulty.It is Islam that claims authority to reject all other faiths. Now
ell me, does Zen Buddism makes such claims? Tell me, does any non-muslim
nation in this world today that has functioning laws to sentence death for
apostacy? As for Christianity, it managed to *reform* and continue to
survive until now.I don't see any signs of that happening to Islam.Maybe
people like you could help.
Ali Sina, I think
,left Islam after being a Muslim all his life, living in a Islamic
heocracy,and having problem to stomach "public stone throwing"
activities at women buried up their armpits after Friday prayers as
required by the All Merciful Allah's divine laws.
Domo" http://www.secularislam.org/discussion4/index.htm
Do
you have anything to add?
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"Mona J." <[email protected]>
9 Feb 2002 09
Salaam Aleikum.
This is a response to your website, as one of my
visitors mentioned it and asked my opinion about it. I read your website
horoughly. You have posted some negative feedback trying to
prove that Islam is a religion of hatred and violence. Well,
Christians and others do threaten Muslim in many places, too and some have even lost their lives for just being a Muslim.
If you are man of integrity I’ll expect that you
will add my response to those negative ones. And I’ll expect (as you
expect from your visitors), that you read my articles BEFORE you give an
opinion. And I do not threaten (Response on the Main page) you life, Mr.
Sina. May God forgive you and guide you.
Salaam, may Peace prevail
Mona J.
http://islam4women.8m.com
I did publish the refutation of
Mona J in faithfreedom.org here
it is But Mona did not publish my response to her site. Doesn't that
prove that even Mona knows that her defense of Islam has failed?
Ali Sina
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"ahs" <[email protected]>
09 Feb 2002
In your
writing you express big hate to Islam, I don't believe that you spare
Muslims from your hate because " they are your brothers" as you
say and regardless of your debate, stories, misunderstanding or borrowing
from different Islam haters , You
have lost any scientific ground because of the hate you expressed and
continue to express in your writing, all of your writing does not weight
much because its not new, its only a repetition of others but inferior as
some other sites at least try to sound scientific,
I will not
mention any correction to your misconceptions, as all what you say is
already posted in other sites and you can find Islamic sites that clearly
answers you, whether you
accept it or not. Even if I took all of your points on Islam as a religion
in whole, they are still fewer than the points debated on other religions
including atheism,
Now you
will tell me from which point of view you are evaluating the number of
debates, well send two or three men on a two hour journey and ask them the
details of their trip each alone, you will have two or three stories with
some similarities or differences, ask a larger group of people to have the
same journey and request a written report from the group as a whole you
will not have all the details and differences of each one but you will
have the agreed and accurate facts. So the number of debates is an
indication to the amount of reality, un-debatable items are either
accepted or simply un-debatable, provided that the points are generally
soundly acceptable as debates by multiple sources. You might be an atheist
and you might think that your believe is
unbeatable, well this is up to you but all religions had long debate about
atheism probably since man on earth that outweighs any debate on any
religion.
Many have
posted on the net the Quran has many errors or is full of errors, but when
mentioning the details they fell short of mentioning only a few little
hings, like earth shape, difference of stories in Torah, bible & the
Quran, the wives of Mohammed (PBUH), and the order to kill or punish other
people and other items.
Well you
can decide that criminals should be entertained but the society has
different view, "a crime can be any act not accepted by society
including religious crimes & thins ", For the brutality in Islam
as you think, you know the answer it's in the bible too, all mankind
showed brutality in the past, in the future and they will continue,
regardless of their religion, its only how you understand it like for
example I say that Israel use of F16 against Palestinians is a state
error against occupied people to continue its occupation and destroy
resistance, while others see it as a self defense including Murdering
suspected Palestinians without court conviction. Well Israelis say that
hey are using brutal weapons against Palestinians that could kill
innocent people for the Nobel cause of protecting the people of
Israel
, and the Palestinian children are only a collateral damage.
USA
"and you" do accept this naive explanation.
In brief,
man over ages has never seen things alike what looks to you brutal might
look to your sons, ancestors, neighbors or simply others a different thing
even could be the contrary, a mercy "this
is mentioned in Quran and the Bible and even explained clearly – if you
want to understand",
Adnan Hassan
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"farooq rasheed" <[email protected]>
.06 Feb 2002
hello
dear
actually i want to tell u that whatever you have written in this site ,,
his all is not according to quran,,,,islam is the religion of peace,,,,,
islam learn us that do not enforce the peoples to come in islam ,,,,.islam
said just preach of islam there is not need to pressuries the peoples,,,ok
if you do not believe on islam yet,, then go and see the books
of peoples of good attitude u will found the name of muhammad(peace be
upon him).. on the top of list,,,whatever is the aspect of life is the
name of muhammad is on the top of the list,,,and this all are the books of
non muslims ,,,,it means that non muslims believe that the muhammad was
someone very pious man and that man was the sign of peace,,,
you should read the books of sunnah,,,and analyse that what is islam
in real,,,my dear
have to talk with the evidences ,,,,,ok
and i believe that if u learn all the books of islam u will found this
religion the best one,,i do not criticise ur religion but i would say that
u must read alll this books ,,,,,,,you will found it very good
"this is what allah said"
ok,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
good byeeeeee.........and after reading all the books u will enforced to
delete this site i hopeeeee.
god bless you..
allah haifz
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"Saeed Akbani" < [email protected]>
5 Feb 2002
Whoever you are, you must get a lot of
satisfaction from putting others and other religions down, for it speaks
volumes of your own incertitude. Different strokes for different
folks, go for it, but please keep in mind that it does not turn you into
a better person.
You are misleading people by taking things
out of Quran and Hadith and quoting them out of context. But you
don't even stop at this, you go on making things up like prophet's first
encounter with Maria the Copt. Take a look at these paragraphs:
"One-day Muhammad goes to his wife’s house Hafsa the daughter of
Omar and finds her maid Mariah attractive. He sends Hafsa to Omar’s
house, telling her that he wanted to see her. When Hafsa leaves,
Muhammad takes Mariah to bed and has intercourse with her. Meanwhile
Hafsa, who finds out that her father was not expecting her, returns home
much sooner than expected, and to her chagrin finds her illustrious
husband in bed with her maid.
She becomes hysteric and forgetting the station of the prophet she
shouts and causes a
scandal. The prophet pleads with her to calm down and promises not to
sleep with Mariah anymore and begs her also not to divulge this secret
o anyone else."
Would you mind telling me what your
source for this piece of trash i?. I am sure the answer is none,
as you have shamelessly made it up just to make your point.
Another thing is that you openly blame Islam
for all the evils and violence in the world. What is happening in
Palestine is completely political and it is due to Israel's suppression
of Palestinians, both muslims and christians. No one likes to blow
up innocent civilians, especially women and children, but they are
fighting for their land, which the Israel along with the active support
of our country, USA, has usurped; and morally deprived people like
yourself support. Yet no fanatic muslim (as you like to call them)
ever spews hatred for Judaism or Christianity like you do
against Islam, and you would never find muslims making deamons out of
Moses or Jesus. You want to know why? Because muslims do not
derive their spiritual, political, or even personal satisfaction by
rediculing other religions.
Islam has its fair share of fanatic and
ignorant followers, but they represent Islam no more than Hitler
represented Christianity. At least the world of Islam has not
produced the likes of Hitler and KuKlux Clan which have been responsible
for the masacre of millions of people based solely on their skin color
or ethnicity.
Please find a better use of your time than
o mock Islam. Like it or not, Islam is the fastest spreading
religion in the world, especially in the North America and it is
knocking on your door and you are PANICKING. Just wait and see,
Islam will get if not you, then your next generation and you will be
urning in your grave when your children will be praying five times a
day, but they will still respect you even though they will not have any
fond memories of yours. You know why? Islam teaches its followers
o respect their parents, no matter how low they stoop.
Thanks,
Saeed Akbani
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