If It’s Appropriate It’s Right – by Eric Allen Bell

Eric Allen Bell

Eric Allen Bell is a writer, filmmaker and Media Consultant, presently living in New York, NY. While making a documentary about the construction of a 53,000 square foot mega mosque in Murfreesboro, TN he attempted to expose “Islamophobia”. Once he stated that Islam was the biggest threat to human rights in the world today, he was banned from the writing Daily Kos and MichaelMoore.com, after LoonWatch.com created a petition to silence him. His article, “The High Price of Telling the Truth About Islam” has been widely circulated and has caused several Liberals to rethink how they look at the Religion of Peace. CHECK OUT MY BLOG AT: http://www.EricAllenBell.com

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  1. Phoenix says:

    //Infanticide is a social problem in India based on a culture of dowry which has nothing to do any Vedic texts. None of the Vedic texts for Hindu marriage demands money at all from either side. This is largely a cultural issue rather than a Hindu religious issue. //

    This dowry culture has its origins in your scriptures, as its practices are recorded in the Mahabharata where we are informed that dowry was given during the marriage of Abhimanyu, son of Arjuna with Uttara, daughter of King Virata.

    Mahabharata 4:72 (p.128) “…And Virata then gave him (as dowry) seven thousand steeds endued with the speed of the wind and two hundred elephants of the best kind and much wealth also.”

    There is another story in the Mahabharata where Krishna also engages in this practice. So yes, Mahabharata is an ancient Hindu rite, which is largely responsible for cases of infanticide.
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    //No Hindu text anywhere says women can be beaten//

    Let’s start with the wife beatings:

    Brihadâranyaka Upanishad VI:4:6. 7. If she should not grant him his desire, he should bribe her. If she still does not grant him his desire, he should hit her with a stick or with his hand, and overcome her, saying: ‘With power, with glory I take away your glory!’ Thus she becomes inglorious.”

    Vishnu smriti 105.”If a woman in her courses (touches such a person), she shall be lashed with a whip”

    299. A wife, a son, a slave, a pupil, and a (younger) brother of the full blood, who have committed faults, may be beaten with a rope or a split bamboo,

    Still convinced women can’t be beaten?
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    //or they are sinful by birth, or root of all evil or any of your claims. All your claims are pure falsehood..//

    ROOT OF ALL EVIL
    Mahabharata 13:XXXVIII
    “Yudhishthira said, ‘O best of the Bharatas, I wish to hear thee discourse on the disposition of women. Women are said to be the root of all evil. They are all regarded as exceedingly frail.’
    (p.5)
    “Panchachuda said, ‘Even if high-born and endued with beauty and possessed of protectors, women wish to transgress the restraints assigned to them. This fault truly stains them, O Narada! There is nothing else that is more sinful than women. Verily, women, are the root of all faults”

    Mahabharata 13:XL…I shall also tell thee, O king, how women were created by the Grandsire Brahman and the object for which they were created by Him. There is no creature more sinful, O son, than women. Woman is a blazing fire. She is the illusion, O king, that the Daitya Maya created. She is the sharp edge of the razor. She is poison. She is a snake. She is fire. She is, verily, all these united together.
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    bunch of lies…..Caste system is NOT racism at all. All the genetic studies have clearly proved that the various castes have no racial difference at all. They belong to same race. Caste system is rather a ritual restriction on religious functions only.
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    bunch of lies…..Caste system is NOT racism at all. All the genetic studies have clearly proved that the various castes have no racial difference at all. They belong to same race. Caste system is rather a ritual restriction on religious functions only.//

    The caste system is a discriminative social structure. The ones at the bottom of this system make claims of abuse whether on the basis of race or class and Hindu law books encourage their ill treatment.

    Let me know if you need a list of verses commanding the abuse of lower and out castes or current examples from news articles involving caste -related violence?

  2. why? says:

    Phoenix and Ron,

    The book “Oh you Hindu awake” is a book from third rate islamic anti-Hindu website. Its a collation of ridiculously stupid arguments (most strawman) and pure LIES. None of it can be verified.

    Infanticide is a social problem in India based on a culture of dowry which has nothing to do any Vedic texts. None of the Vedic texts for Hindu marriage demands money at all from either side. This is largely a cultural issue rather than a Hindu religious issue.

    Phoenix says:
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    Hindu girls are devalued who are considered sinful by birth, root of all evil, cannot gain inheritance, may be beaten, deceivers, etc.
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    No Hindu text anywhere says women can be beaten or they are sinful by birth, or root of all evil or any of your claims. All your claims are pure falsehood..

    On the other hand, clearly your unholy bible considers women as trade-able property. Even a father can sell his daughter to overcome debt and even rules are laid down.

    Phoenix says:
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    Then there is of course the caste system which is implicated in many evils such as infanticide, witch killings, slavery,racism, poverty and illiteracy.
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    bunch of lies…..Caste system is NOT racism at all. All the genetic studies have clearly proved that the various castes have no racial difference at all. They belong to same race. Caste system is rather a ritual restriction on religious functions only.

    Second, caste system was practiced for more than 5000 year sin India. India has been one of the richest nations in the world until British invaded India and plundered it.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_India#Declining_Share_of_World_GDP

    British economist, Angus Maddison argues that India’s share of the world income went from 27% in 1700 (compared to Europe’s share of 23%) to 3% in 1950.[17] Modern economic historians have blamed the colonial rule for the dismal state of India’s economy, investment in Indian industries was limited since it was a colony.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_India#GDP_estimate

    According to economic historian Angus Maddison in his book Contours of the world economy, 1–2030 AD: essays in macro-economic history, India had the world’s largest economy during the years 1 AD and 1000 AD.[

    During the Mughal period (1526–1858) in the 16th century, the gross domestic product of India was estimated at about 25.1% of the world economy.

    An estimate of India’s pre-colonial economy puts the annual revenue of Emperor Akbar’s treasury in 1600 at £17.5 million (in contrast to the entire treasury of Great Britain two hundred years later in 1800, which totaled £16 million). The gross domestic product of Mughal India in 1600 was estimated at about 24.3% the world economy, the second largest in the world.[17]

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    Even the Muslims maintained India (which had strict caste system practiced) as one of the richest nations, until the scoundrel Christian Brtish desstroyed India and its caste system practices an brought India to the lowest among low today.

    HISTORY CLEARLY DISPROVES THE CLAIMS MADE BY SCOUNDREL CHRISTIAN MISSIONARY THIEVES OF THE WEST.

  3. why? says:

    Madfijian,

    You are NOT capable of understanding what is logic. So why don’t you stick to what you understand. It is NOT superiority complex which I have madfijian, your mind knows the fact that what I write is correct and you cannot argue back. That is all. Let me assure you, I do NOT have superiority complex. I readily agree when I am wrong, but when I am right I say it to your face.

  4. Phoenix says:

    Ron,

    Then there is of course the caste system which is implicated in many evils such as infanticide, witch killings, slavery,racism, poverty and illiteracy. The caste system is a violation of human rights and since the caste system is an essential aspect of Hinduism therefore Hinduism contradicts the Golden Rule.

  5. Phoenix says:

    Ron,

    //When I visited South Asia, I saw more racism (casteism), poverty, slavery, child labor, homeless, destitute, blind beliefs, superstition, worships of almost anything (idols, animal, cow, monkey, rat, snake, stone, phallus, vagina, tree, ancestor, guru, money (banknotes and coins) etc. ) than anywhere else in the world.//

    You have forgotten the widespread practice of infanticide. Hindu girls are devalued who are considered sinful by birth, root of all evil, cannot gain inheritance, may be beaten, deceivers, etc.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/abortion/medical/infanticide_1.shtml

    http://www.sociology.org/female-infanticide-killing-the-little-girls-of-the-world/

  6. Ron says:

    To Why,
    There a lot of people who believe Jesus existed and (You for one do not believe that he existed.)
    All major historians of repute believe Jesus existed, they may not agree on his divinity though.

    These historians all agree that he had great moral teachings on love, forgiveness, sharing and caring, and was an enlightened soul. There are a miniscule few who are not historians who consider Jesus as bad. (You are one of them who considers that if Jesus existed then he was bad).

    Some die-hard anti-Christians again believe that the Biblical Jesus never existed and is a myth but again they all agree that the teachings of this Biblical Jesus was great, moral values (You for one do not believe in this also)

    So you can see that your views are biased and based on intense hatred for Jesus. You don’t believe he existed and if he existed then his teachings and life is bad. It takes an outsider to show you the deep hatred you have for Christ.

    But I believe that people like you when they realise and come out of their hatred and accept Christ they become the best Christians full of great compassion, love, forgiveness, charity, tolerance and will renounce using those foul-mouthed expletives and hate rhetoric towards other people as you realize that we are all made in the image of God.

    I remember that Ali Sina in 2001 or 2002 had advised a Muslim against accepting Christianity saying that you are jumping from frying pan into fire. And now Ali Sina humbly advocates accepting Christ and has himself accepted Christ.

    Paul was persecuting Christians and then became a great Christian evangelist himself.
    I read “Oh”! You Hindu!! Awake!!! thanks to Madfijian and it is something revealing to Hindus.
    Brother Why you are a child of God, made in the image of God. Christ died for you and for all of us.

    Christ is risen and if you search for true God by saying the below prayer then you will surely find him.

    “Oh God who has created me, come to me in dreams and visions and show me the right path and reconfirm this path through unexpected sources and I will follow that path”. Say this prayer and it will take you to the truth, the way and life i.e. Christ.

  7. madfijian says:

    Why what you say most of the time makes sense but you have proven nobody wrong. At the end of the day you are just like Ron and the rest of the religious nutters on the web you criticizes others faith and promote the superiority of yours. To me at least you and your rantings are insignificant and a total waste of time. You write as if you have been to heaven and back. At the end of the day none of us really knows anything until we die. I choose not to argue with you because you have a superiority complex and i avoid people like you generally in real life. To stressful.

  8. why? says:

    DEMONIC BIBLE GOD NEEDS VIRGIN GIRLS:

    31:32 And the booty, being the rest of the prey which the men of war had caught, was six hundred thousand and seventy thousand and five thousand sheep, (31:32) “And the booty,”
    …………………………………………….
    31:35 And thirty and two thousand persons in all, **of women that had not known man by lying with him.**\\

    **31:40 And the persons were sixteen thousand; of which the LORD’s tribute was thirty and two persons.**

    DEMONIC BIBLE GOD NEEDS HUMAN SACRIFICE:

    Leviticus 27:28-29, the Lord allows for no redemptions.

    “Note also that any one of his possessions which a man vows as doomed to the Lord, whether it is a human being or an animal, or a hereditary field, shall be neither sold nor ransomed; everything that is thus doomed becomes most sacred to the Lord. All human beings that are doomed lose the right to be redeemed; they must be put to death.”

    “The one who has stolen what was set apart for destruction will himself be burned with fire, along with everything he has, for he has broken the covenant of the LORD and has done a horrible thing in Israel.” (Joshua 7:15 NLT)

    Burn Nonbelievers

    “Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. **Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God.** That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

    CRAZY SUICIDAL JEEBUS BELIEVED IN THIS CRAZY DEMONIC GOD:

    BEFORE YOU SPIT CRAP THAT JEEBUS’ GOD IS DIFFERENT THAN OLD TESTAMENT, NEW TESTAMENT MAKES IT CLEAR THAT JEEBUS BELIEVED IN THE SAME DEMONIC GOD OF OLD TESTAMENT, NOT DIFFERENT FROM ALLAH…

    Luke 20:37Young’s Literal Translation (YLT)

    37 `And that the dead are raised, even Moses shewed at the Bush, since he doth call the Lord, the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob;

    Mark 12:26 `And concerning the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the Book of Moses (at The Bush), how God spake to him, saying, I [am] the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob;

    John 6:32

    Jesus then said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread out of heaven, but it is My Father who gives you the true bread out of heaven.

    Matthew 23:35 (NASB95)

    35 so that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.

  9. why? says:

    Ron,

    By the way what kind of idiots believe that a book (your babble) which teaches pedophilia, sexual slavery, mass rape, genocide, killing unbeliever women, children and even infants is from God? Please clarify and enlighten us. UNLIKE YOU, I WILL PROVIDE EVIDENCE FROM YOUR DEMONIC EVIL BOOK CALLED BABBLE

    LIST OF ATROCITIES IN BIBLE COMMANDED BY A DEMONIC BABBLE GOD:

    Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)

    Rape pedophilia of young girls, genocide of male children and adults, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)

    Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

    Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)

    Rape and the Spoils of War (Judges 5:30 NAB)

    Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

  10. why? says:

    Ron Says:
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    Hinduism encourages and worships their gods who practised sometimes gay, and bestial activities and which is depicted in many Hindu temples,
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    This is pure christian lies. There is neither gay sex nor bestiality. You cannot show any of these in any of the Vedic texts.

    Ron Says:
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    mentioned in many Hindu Texts and these gay activities/unions produced other gods who Hindus worship including worshipping of human and animal genitalia. We have lot of graphic and documentary evidence including the excerpts from the book referred by Madfijian.
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    There ain’t any such evidence nd no such books that exist…..even if the book exists none of them prove anything about bestiality or gay sex unless you show which text beyond any doubt proves this?

    I challenge none of you nincompoops can prove your claims. Its as usual PURE CHRISTIAN PIOUS LIES ABOUT HINDUISM…

    Ron Says:
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    I, Phoenix, Madfijian et al can quote evidence if anyone needs proof or this escalates into further debate.
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    RON, I have proven you, madfijian and Phoenix wrong and can do it all over again if needed…but it is very easy to prove your silly christian religion is pure nonsense…

    Ron Says:
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    When I visited South Asia, I saw more racism (casteism), poverty, slavery, child labor, homeless, destitute, blind beliefs, superstition, worships of almost anything (idols, animal, cow, monkey, rat, snake, stone, phallus, vagina, tree, ancestor, guru, money (banknotes and coins) etc. ) than anywhere else in the world.
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    There is racism (real racism), poverty,slavery, sexual slavery of girls, prostitution, child labor in sex industry, homeless, destitute, blind beliefs (christianity), superstition (faith healing suckers losing money), worship of a bastard son born through a prostitute etc….in the west too…

    Ron Says:
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    There was mysticism but no logic, reasoning to worshipping all these but Hinduism is one size fits all religion and the guides tell you the hindu stories of their gods (not humans) doing all sorts of criminal behaviour.
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    What criminal behavior? There is none…this is your claim without any evidence and every evidence you have shown is proven wrong already….There is much logic in Hinduism, if only you have learned anything about Vedanta….However, since you are one ignoramus who does NOT even know what is Vedanta you cannot claim there isn’t any logic. Have you heard/read of any Hindu logic texts? Since you do not even know the names of these texts it is mere strawman..

    On the contrary I know that your bible is full of bull crap….

    Ron Says:
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    I read the Gospels completely only after searching other religions just as Ali Sina did and in Christ I found some one sinless, pure, whose words on love, forgiveness, mercy, hope, justice, redemption were enthralling, soul-stirring and enriching.
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    What is enthralling about a suicidal mental fellow jeebus who believed that by committing suicide by cop he would save everyone from their sins? You retarded christians call this nonsense belief as love of God 🙂

    What kind of idiots will call this delusional fellow as God?

  11. Ron says:

    Madfijian,
    Yes, I have eaten pork when I was more secular but avoid it and would not consider it sinful because Jesus said that what comes out of your mouth (words) is more important than what goes into your mouth (food).

    Madfijian, from your posts, I read that you are still a inquirer and not a sceptic and so you will find the truth, the way and life and it will be through Christ.

    It will surprise you, as it surprised me and Ali Sina. I was probably more left leaning, secular and sinful than most of you.

    Einstein had great respect for Jesus and believed that Jesus historically existed though he may not have believed in his divinity. (though he does now ). Believing that Jesus existed is a great starting point in your quest for God.

  12. Ron says:

    Hinduism encourages and worships their gods who practised sometimes gay, and bestial activities and which is depicted in many Hindu temples, mentioned in many Hindu Texts and these gay activities/unions produced other gods who Hindus worship including worshipping of human and animal genitalia. We have lot of graphic and documentary evidence including the excerpts from the book referred by Madfijian.

    I, Phoenix, Madfijian et al can quote evidence if anyone needs proof or this escalates into further debate.

    When I visited South Asia, I saw more racism (casteism), poverty, slavery, child labor, homeless, destitute, blind beliefs, superstition, worships of almost anything (idols, animal, cow, monkey, rat, snake, stone, phallus, vagina, tree, ancestor, guru, money (banknotes and coins) etc. ) than anywhere else in the world.

    There was mysticism but no logic, reasoning to worshipping all these but Hinduism is one size fits all religion and the guides tell you the hindu stories of their gods (not humans) doing all sorts of criminal behaviour.

    I read the Gospels completely only after searching other religions just as Ali Sina did and in Christ I found some one sinless, pure, whose words on love, forgiveness, mercy, hope, justice, redemption were enthralling, soul-stirring and enriching.

  13. why? says:

    http://shoebat.com/2016/06/10/major-catholic-priest-declares-that-homosexuals-are-worthy-of-death/

    A very popular Catholic priest in Italy, Fr. Massimiliano Pusceddu, is taking a lot of heat in a recent sermon against the Italian parliament’s acceptance of “same-sex civil unions,” in which he, reading from the Bible, declared homosexuals as being “worthy of death.”
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    Really!!!

    Theodork shitbutt and his ex-islamic-terrorist turned christian terrorist father walid shitbutt, are arguing now to kill all homosexuals because babble says so…

    Now wait a minute…doesn’t the same babble say that one who does adultery will be stoned to death or stranged to death or burned at stake (if you are priest’s daughter) and children born to unmarried parents, adulterous parents etc. are mamzers, who cannot enter the congregation of God for up to ten generations….

    This would definitely qualify Walid shitbutt as an adulterer for sure (jeebus said that anybody who divorces wife, for reasons other than adultery by wife, and marries another is committing adultery) and 99.99 % of christian America as adulterers and mamzers, qualifying them for death by stoning. NO WHY THIS SHITBUTTS ARE NOT ARGUING FOR DEATH BY STONING OF ENTIRE AMERICA? ITS OBVIOUS THEN THERE WOULD NOT EXIST ANYBODY IN AMERICA THEN TO SUCK DRY OF THEIR POCKETS…

    Theodork shitbutt and 99.99 % of American teenagers ALL HAVE pre-marital sex, make babies without marriage and then go on to marry somebody else….this is normal in America…and would qualify 99.99% christian America as mamzers who cannot enter the congregation of babble God. LET ME SEE THEODORK SHITBUTT SHOUTING IN YOUTUBE FOR EXCOMMUNICATION OF ENTIRE AMERICA…WELL ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN…WHY? THERE WILL BE NO MORE SUCKERS IN AMERICAN CHURCHES TO SUCK THEM DRY OF THEIR POCKETS…

    HE…..TYPICAL AMERICAN CHRISTIANITY….SUCKERS…

  14. why? says:

    A.H. Says:
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    Christianity is not a philosophical system to find truth, because no historical form of philosophy can legitimately claim to embrace the totality of truth, nor to be the complete explanation of the human being.
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    Whether something or everything can be known in totality can itself be a philosophical question.

    The question is NOT about whether christianity is a philosophical system, whether the original books of christianity, islam and judaism contain any notion of reasoning and logic and/or philosophy.

    I have NOT found any in the three religions. Only rules for wars, rituals and claims that entire world is sinful and/or world needs to be converted and their religion is the only way.

    There is no room for logic in these religious texts of these religions at all. Believe or go to hell is the only rheotoric. There is not even an iota of interest on logic in these books. why?

    Why would God, the creator, who spent time to come and die for everybody, did NOT give lessons on reasoning and logic? Is there one chapter in a gospel or quran or OT where God spends time for reasoning and logic? NONE whatsoever.

    On the other hand, Hinduism has religious texts particularly dealing with logic (Tarka, meemamsa), grammar, mathematics etc. before one is allowed to read the core Vedic texts. It is required for one to read and understand logic, philosophy (epistemology etc.) first (which are called as Vedangas or limbs of Vedas) before one even attempts to read core Vedic texts. In Hinduism, even these limbs of Vedas are given by Gods to human beings. Jainism and Buddhism also has similar requirements on logic, philosophy etc.

    Is it NOT logical to expect the God, the creator of Universe to teach basic skills of thinking first before dishing out higher teachings? and yet these so called three monotheistic desert religions do NOT have one text given by God about logic or some basic philosophy. Only commands to obey, commands to kill etc. Ain’t this obviously clear that these religions are backward.

    A.H. Says:
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    However for a Christian is the use of one`s reason with reference to faith not unimportant.
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    If so called christians use logic, it is obviously because of pre-christian European tradition from the school of Aristotle, Plato etc. It has nothing to do with these three revealed religions.

    They cannot answer simple question logically as to why an almighty God who knowingly created beings that would sin would kill Himself in order to convince Himself to forgive His own creation? The very foundation or core of the religion is based on illogical nonsense claim.

  15. madfijian says:

    Ron do you eat pork? Yes or no please.

  16. MY EMAIL TO THE SHOEBATS (and other prominent CJM voices):

    As you correctly pointed out, the support for your side of the argument is very strong among CJM observers. The support on my Facebook page and other parts of the so-called “Counter Jihad” world, for my side of the argument is close to deafening silence.

    I don’t think that is simply because people think that your knowledge of history is so impressive and that I am such a “dumb bell” however.

    I focused on one point specifically in how I spread the news of our debate. I said “Walid Shoebat wants to kill gays”. Why is there such silence from the CJM? Their silence is consent.

    This proves my point. The Counter Jihad Movement in America is driven by a fundamentalist Christian sentiment. And, although many high profile CJM voices will not also call for the execution of homosexuals, they will not criticize you for doing so. As I said, their silence is consent.

    So my point (and really your point too) has been proven. The loudest voices in America that speak out against Islam are fundamentalist Christians. And when the Left tries to label us as a hate group, they are unfortunately not entirely wrong.

    Print this if you like. I don’t care.

    All I can say is that I am deeply saddened by being proven right. I would much rather have found out that I was wrong. I had hoped that more Counter Jihad people would object to your calling for the execution of innocent people, but they seem not to.

    Does that make you right? Or, is that just a snapshot of the sad state of the Counter Jihad Movement in America today?

    A cruel god makes for a cruel man.

    Eric Allen Bell

  17. A.H. says:

    “Did you jeebus teach you Christians anything about logic? Clearly NONE showing this character jeebus was interested in being worshiped and not interested in teaching any truth…”

    In Christianity it is about revealed truth, a Christian BELIEFS Jesus is God incarnate.

    Christianity is not a philosophical system to find truth, because no historical form of philosophy can legitimately claim to embrace the totality of truth, nor to be the complete explanation of the human being.

    However for a Christian is the use of one`s reason with reference to faith not unimportant.

    http://www3.nd.edu/~afreddos/papers/fides-et-ratio-notes.htm#enduring

  18. A.H. says:

    “A Christian is one who follows Christ.”

    http://www.calledtocommunion.com/2016/02/who-is-real-christian/

    “What makes Christ unique are many reasons. One being that he lived, claimed that he was God”

    Any lunatic can claim that.

    “There are more books written about Christ than anyone else in the world. The negative books about Christ are a miniscule percentage (less than half a percent).”

    What do you want to prove?

    “The Bible has been the largest bestseller since the printing press. The Gospel is the only book which has been translated into all the major languages of every country in the world. It is still being translated into other minor languages and dialects even as you read this post.”

    The good news was already spread over the earth before any gospel had been written.

    “This is what other great personalities have said about Jesus.”

    So what, just another bunch of opinions.

  19. Here, there and everywhere.

    Not trapped inside a church, a temple or a mosque.

    Not limited to the pages of this holy book or that sacred text.

    Not limited by time or space.

    Too big for this little brain to process.

    Too small to be captured.

    Too fast to be organized.

    Too sacred to be measured.

    OM

  20. why? says:

    Ron,

    Apparently you do not understand simple logic, which your christianity cannot answer. You talk about this character jeebus teaching this and that and everything under Earth, except LOGIC. Did you jeebus teach you christians anything about logic? Clearly NONE showing this character jeebus was interested in being worshiped and not interested in teaching any truth…

    Simply answer this question logically.

    Why would any perfect God create world and souls which would sin and then kill and torture himself in order to convince himself to forgive his own creation which he created knowingly that it would sin?

    This is very very simple logic. This one simple logic is enough to show that jeebus was nothing more than a delusional msuicidal maniac who thought planning his assisted suicide would lead to destruction of all sins…It did NOT…people still sin and still die, even the so called christians who accepted this cock and bull story….

  21. why? says:

    WALID THE WIFE BEATER….

    The Dossier on Walid Shoebat, his real name Walid Salameh, a wolf exposed!!!

    http://www.african-israel.com/False%20Christians/Walid.html

    Walid Salameh was clearly divorced by his Palestinian wife because he would beat her up, he had psychological issues and was/is a control freak. He was an abusive man hence why she could not live with him any longer. What Walid has not told you is that before he got married to his present Mexican wife (we will not publish her name) he married a Jewish woman and he used to beat her black and blue too, until she also divorced him. Last we heard, the ex-Jewish wife was living in Washington, and even she will confirm that his so called terrorist past was a hoax. Walid claims to have apologized to her for his abusive past.

  22. why? says:

    HERE IS SOME SHIT ABOUT WALID SHITBEAT’S PAST: WIFE BEATER (MARRIED 3 TIMES ALREADY), FRAUDULENT MONEY LAUNDERER, CHEATER, TYPICAL MUSLIM CONTROL FREAK:

    http://www.african-israel.com/False%20Christians/Walid.html

    It is with much sadness and regret that we have to publish this information to protect innocent Christians out there from being deceived by this man!

    Rabbi Simon knew this person well in the early days of his own conversion and worked with him for a few years on his first book. They initially worked on the doctrine of the Islamic end time beast together which Walid brought to the attention of Rabbi Simon and after much exhaustive work done by Rabbi Simon, that Walid later claimed as his own, a lot of hard work in editing the material and research material was from Rabbi Simon’s wife who worked in the research phase under the guidance of Rabbi Simon collating, collecting and putting together of researched information. Walid and Simon then decided to publish the book This is our Eden, This is our End which is now out of print, to enable the people out there to see the truth.

    He called Rabbi Simon a false prophet and used polygamy against him as a weapon, while the Patriarchs practiced polygamy and were considered right-ruling men of God. And the whole world knows Israel also known as Jacob, fathered twelve children out of four wives whom God called right-ruling, and Jacob’s children God called My inheritance.

    Deut 14:2 (KJV) For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth

    Walid couldn’t get any lower, so he acquired Rabbi Simon’s work address and pretending to be Rabbi Simon’s wife wrote to Simon’s employer in London making false accusations in an email against him about having two wives which of course Rabbi Simon did not have at the time so that he would get fired from his employment. This became an opportunity for Rabbi Simon to tell his employer of the work he had done in Pakistan to make a synagogue.

    In the ensuing hatred campaign that Walid had generated alongside other Christians who were writing on Joel’s blog they wrote e-mails to Rabbi Simon’s wife telling her to divorce her husband totally destroying his marriage. Rabbi Simon tried very hard to convince his wife of the lies that were weaved against him but sadly his ex-wife still decided to follow through with the divorce accusing her husband of all sorts of ills. Does that remind us of Job?

    This turned out to be a time of testimony because the dirty schemes from the father of lies (Satan) who Walid serves were caught by his employer and after investigation Rabbi Simon was exonerated in his role. Which man of God would destroy another’s family and home? Walid indeed did all of this. Rabbi Simon put all these things to one side and put everything in God’s hands.

    He claims to be a convert from reading history; the interviews can be seen on http://www.youtube.com by typing Walid Shoebat. He was on Fox News where he never once made any statement that he ever had a heart change by Jesus. Clearly this is a confused man whose heart is still wicked.

    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=walid+shoebat&aq=f

    Now this man runs his own website with Keith Davies taking donations in the name of Top Executive Media. The two are out to make $$$ as setting up their Walid Shoebat foundation each year they have made around $600,000. This is the price this man has for his soul to be sold to the devil.

    Walid personally told Simon that on each university visit they charge $4000 per speaker and Keith gets 25%, while Walid gets the rest. Of course, Keith is no downer he has a million dollar home to maintain in Pennsylvania and the price of truth for him is 25% from each speaking engagement.

    So is this lucrative and good business? We will let you decide that. On the contrary when Rabbi Simon goes to speak about his conversion or the Bible Truths he charges no money and offers the service FREE.

    If Walid was so fervent for the truth then why is he charging the universities a fee of $4000 for each visit? Why charge the Air force Academy $13,000, why not do it for a nominal fee and air tickets only?

    Of course if this was really about truth then it would never be about money.

    Here is what was said by someone else about the Walid Shoebat foundation:

    [1]And the Walid Shoebat Foundation’s working process is less than transparent, with Shoebat’s claim that it is registered as a charity in the state of Pennsylvania being denied by the Pennsylvania State Attorney’s Office

    We do know it is about showmanship and good business acumen of Keith Davies also known as Qalman promoting would be ex-terrorists whose stories do not line up, so he embellishes them a little here and little there to make the $$$ role in.

    No ex-terrorist worth an ounce would put down his own family and this is a fact. When we first found out about Keith Davies, a few years ago we recommended a Christian who came out of the ranks of the German Reich to hire Keith as a manager to tell the world about what the Nazis did and how they convinced the German population to turn against the Jewish people and many good Christians and Catholics too. However, this Christian gentleman soon left Keith Davies because he found his tactics to be underhanded because Keith was trying to embellish his story and telling lies.

    Walid also claims to help persecuted Christians in Pakistan, Rabbi Simon who built a synagogue in Pakistan spoke to many Christians regarding this if this was true of Walid. None in Pakistan recognised the name Walid Shoebat so Walid has been taking donations for a cause he claims but none there know about it.

    Here you can see that the Michigan University pulled their budget for the two speakers for March 2009.

    WESTERN MICHIGAN UNIVERSITY FACES FREE SPEECH SCANDAL: University Rescinds Grant Approved In Writing By Appropriations Committee And Finance Director

    A Speaking Event to be held at Western Michigan University on March 10th 2009, which includes two former terrorists Walid Shoebat and Kamal Saleem who speak regularly on University campuses about the threat of Islamic terrorism, has been threatened with cancellation due to the pulling of grants, which were allocated by the University.

    Walid Shoebat and Keith Davies are both available for interviews on this subject.

    The grant of $8311 was passed 4 to 1 by the appropriations committee of the WSA (student activities administration of Western Michigan University). The grant approval was also sent in writing and signed by the finance director of the WSA. On Thursday evening Feb 19, the organizers of the event on campus received an email from the WSA revoking the grant because of a technicality.

    The question is why is he doing it? The answer is simpler than we care to believe. He is making money from Christian ignorance. Christians should stop being starry eyed and the deception will stop. This man may be a convert but is not a convert from terrorism or an ex-terrorist background nor even a genuine convert to Christianity. It is clear he embellished his testimony because he knew he was going to make money out of it. His actions speak louder than words. He was converted by his American Christian mother who told him about her saviour, while she lived in Israel with the family. It was through her actions that Walid was converted but he would never admit that to you unless he repents of his past actions first. He biological brothers hate him not because he is a convert but because he scammed them out of their inheritance of $400,000.

  23. Ron says:

    @Madfijian
    Christian is one who follows Christ.
    What makes Christ unique are many reasons.
    One being that he lived, claimed that he was God, prophecised that he would die and rise again, fulfilled that prophecy. Did a lot of miracles and conquered the hearts and minds of billions of people across centuries.

    There are more books written about Christ than anyone else in the world. The negative books about Christ are a miniscule percentage (less than half a percent).

    The Bible has been the largest bestseller since the printing press. The Gospel is the only book which has been translated into all the major languages of every country in the world. It is still being translated into other minor languages and dialects even as you read this post.

    There are more ancient manuscripts of the Bible than of any other literary books or Scriptures of those times or before.

    The law was given to the Jews by Moses which included dietary laws and other laws including the Ten Commandments . Jesus healed on the Sabbath, saved the adulterous woman from stoning, ate with sinners, healed the sick (whether Jew or Gentile) etc. He simplified the commandments into two Commandments. Love God with all your heart, soul and mind and second love your neighbour as yourself.

    Jesus then went further to define who is a neighbour with the story of the good Samaritan. (A neighbour is a fellow human being (i.e. anyone including a despised stranger). He also said to love your enemies and bless those who persecute you and forgive them.

    Your view of Christ is seen through a lens of vehement hatred for Christianity and nothing else. Only the love of Christ can help you reconcile with your brother and others.

    This is what other great personalities have said about Jesus.

    Napolean Bonaparte
    “I know men; and I tell you that Jesus Christ is no mere man. Between Him and every person in the world there is no possible term of comparison. Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and I have founded empires. But on what did we rest the creations of our genius? Upon force. Jesus Christ founded His empire upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for him”
    “I know men, and I tell you that Jesus is not a man. Superficial minds see a resemblance between Christ and the founders of empires, and the gods of other religions, that resemblance does not exist. There is between Christianity and other religions, the distance of infinity.”

    Albert Einstein was asked by “ Do you accept the historical existence of Jesus?”
    Einstein said “ “Unquestionably. No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life. How different, for instance, is the impression which we receive from an account of legendary heroes of antiquity like Theseus. Theseus and other heroes of his type lack the authentic vitality of Jesus.

    “No man can deny the fact that Jesus existed, nor that his sayings are beautiful. Even if some them have been said before, no one has expressed them so divinely as he.”

    Watch this very short video of Dr Subodh Pandit where he address the part of Ancient Religious Writings

  24. madfijian says:

    Ron and passive observer you guys really need help. Please find someone who can guide you towards logic.

    Eric their is a lot of talk here about the extreme views of these Shoebat creatures. They are obviously getting their crap from somewhere and it ain’t from the Enid Blyton books but from what is in the Bible. I repeat my point Islam is an offshoot of Christianity. If you read and understand the Bible and the Quran you will except that they are both cut from the same cloth. The shoebats will fit perfectly in the midst of ISIS. There view of the world is based on there faith and is identical to ISIS. I could not ask for a better example. In fact they are true Christians as much as ISIS’S members are true Muslims. They are following the commands of their holy books.

    Ron and Passive observer are fakes. They are not following their Bible. Their bible forbids them from eating pork yet i am sure they do. Their Bible asks them to subjugate their wives i am sure they do not do this. Their Bible commands them to kill unbelievers which they do not do. Their Bible commands them to stone adulterers which they do not do. I could go on and on with how unchristian they are but i guess they get it well i hope.

    The point i am trying to make is simple you cannot be half christian. You either follow all of Gods commands as per the Bible or you don’t. In which case you are not a Christian. If one uses the age old argument that we use the NEW Testament not the old book than was Jesus the same God who appeared to Moses or not. Because if their is but 1 God and the same dude appeared in front of Moses as a Burning Bush than he is one messed up fellow as he seems to change his mind a hell of a lot.

    Does anyone else on this site see how illogical all this is.

  25. A.H. says:

    PO
    Actually, declarations about the hell of Pope Francis are opinions, nothing more or less.

    The official teachings the Church (Jesus founded) can be found in the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

    About “hell” it reads:
    1037 God predestines no one to go to hell; for this, a willful turning away from God (a mortal sin) is necessary, and persistence in it until the end.

    1034 Jesus often speaks of “Gehenna” of “the unquenchable fire” reserved for those who to the end of their lives refuse to believe and be converted, where both soul and body can be lost Jesus solemnly proclaims that he “will send his angels, and they will gather . . . all evil doers, and throw them into the furnace of fire,” and that he will pronounce the condemnation: “Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire!”.

    1035 The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, “eternal fire.” The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God, in whom alone man can possess the life and happiness for which he was created and for which he longs.

    http://www.calledtocommunion.com/2011/03/sola-scriptura-vs-the-magisterium-what-did-jesus-teach/

  26. Walter Sieruk says:

    Just yesterday this brutal and murderous jihad terror attack in the city of Tel Aviv in the State of Israel was heinous act of Islamic terrorism. Be it by operatives of ISIS, Hezbollah, Hamas, or members of some other like-minded jihad entity. Even if those two jihad-mind Muslims were engaging in a “lone Wolf” jihad attack. All such deadly violent action is sanctioned in the “holy book’ of Islam the Koran. Which instructs in violence and killing for the cause of Islam. As found in, for example, 4: 89. 5:33. 9:5,111,123. 47:4. In other words the Koran inspires and causes such hideous violence. Furthermore, another role the Koran has in such deadly Islamic terror attacks in the Jewish nation of Israel is that the Koran contains many negative about the Jewish people. The reason that the Koran reads as it does have much to do with the history of the founder and prophet of Islam, who is Muhammad. This is for a specific time period of his life Muhammad lived among many Jewish people and he liked them at first. Later then they would not accept his claim of being of prophet, Muhammad then took is dislike to them that then turned into bitterness and even hate for them. So in the hate and bitterness he spoke many derogatory things about the as even referring to them as “apes and swine.” Such word of bitterness and hate, along with other thing he said, where written down on things and then later after his death those words were together together and then eventually, in time went in the composition of the Koran. Therefore, that why the Koran reads and in does about the Jewish people, as in calling them descendants of “apes and swine.” As seen in the Koran in 2:65; 7:166.; 5:60. Furthermore, as a Christian I can keyboard that there is a chance the Muhammad actually might had been a prophet but the important thing to understand is that Muhammad was NOT a prophet send by God. Instead, Muhammad was a deceptive, lying false prophet send by Satan to lead many people astray and even and straight into hell. Jesus, in fact, had predicted and warned of the coming of such men as Muhammad. For Jesus taught “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” Matthew 7:15. In addition, the Bible further warns that “many false prophets are gone out into the world.” First John 4:1. [K.J.V.]

  27. @ EAB; @ Steve; @Madfijian
    C.S. Lewis as erstwhile Atheist once said that the doctrine of hell is one of chief grounds on which Christianity is attacked as barbarous and the goodness of God is pugned.
    According to J.P. Moreland punishment of hell is separation from God and His people. Hell is of course punishment but not punishing or a torture chamber. A murderer is separated from society for life in prison. Similarly if anyone who says “ I don’t care about God and I want to do things in my own way’ and harms the creatures of God, he is given his desire for all eternity by being separated from God for ever.
    When Jesus speaks of flames, worms, and gnashing of teeth in hell -.these are a figure of speech. He depicts the emotions and feelings of a prisoner for life. It is a loss of everything. Separation of friends and relatives are like flames in his heart, his conscious work like worms, his gnashing of teeth is for his foolishness of committing the crime.
    If we know Jesus we can understand his sayings in parables for instance he said “ If your right hand causes you to sin cut it off” it means to cut off our friendships and opportunities that can cause us to sin (or get STD, Aids and it is hell)
    Many of us think that the same hell punishment for every sinner. No free size for all. Jesus confirms this by saying “ It is more bearable in that day for Sodom than for the city “(MT10:12) It means people will be sentenced according to their deeds.
    Pope Francis has recently declared that Atheists can go to Heaven. According to Ali Sina, from the study of NDEs “what is needed is loving and forgiving in order to go to heaven.
    Do you think Abu bucker Al Baghdadi should be spared of hell?

  28. why? says:

    Steve,

    It was NOT a debate at all. I have made it clear. Rather it was a pssing context as to whose d*ck is longer and the shitbeats almost literally beat his ass in this pissing contest and treated him as though he is some little boy. Besides, EAB could not answer simple questions regarding for example how catholic church has a history of anti-semitism. He gave the example of Nazism, but could not defend this claim effectively. EAB failed to show the evidence. Rather he could have started with the inherent antisemitism in the new testament and then gone into historical records of Catholic church regarding antisemitism. He could have quoted many catholic “fathers” quotes and historical events of Jewish persecution before Nazism to prove inherent anti-semitism in catholic church. He failed to do this effectively and shut the barking shitbeat bullies. But he did not. EAB is too soft for these rabies infested bull dogs.

    http://www.shc.edu/theolibrary/resources/Timeline.htm

    Above is timeline of Jewish persecution. Second, these shitbeats want to burn at stake and murder the Hindus, Buddhists, homos etc. and virtually every other non-christian. He could have asked them how they are any different from Islamites? I do not think he even asked this question. He could have also asked if communism got rid of all religions, including Islam, will christians like shitbeats join them in the quest of communists. This would have been an apt reply to shitbeats question when they asked who is effective against Islamic hordes? Shitbeat thinks only crazy catholics like themselves are the answer, much like the communists..

    EAB in effect has failed to rein in the shitbeat dogs and did a poor performance. At the end, Walid shitbeat even threatened EAB as though he is a little boy that shitbeat will beat the hell out of him if he comes face to face…EAB as usual did NOT even respond to this.

    Now one thing is clear, shitbeats clearly showed what christians evagelists are, they are bullies. Bullies need to reined in like dogs, not debated with respect.

  29. Steve says:

    @Why

    Sorry but how exactly did Eric get his ass kicked? The shoebats were literally shouting for the last ten minutes of the debate and talked over Eric and the others for most of the debate.

  30. why? says:

    EAB,

    Congratulations…..This is what I was expecting. You got your ass kicked royally…by the shitbeats….you did not prepare at all for the debate…it wasn’t a debate but it was a shitbeats’ display that they have bigger d*cks than you….The title should read whose d*ck is longer?

  31. why? says:

    The Crazy Shitbat..errr…Shoebeats….

    http://shoebattube.com/watch_video.php?v=9OSAKB4AHGN7

  32. Ron says:

    Muslim refugees and immigrants (both Muslims and other non-Christians) who are in the West when converted to Christianity will leave terrorism. We should welcome them and proselytize them.

    If they remain Muslims they may become potential recruits for ISIS. Very few of them become atheists and these Muslim turned neo-atheists may very well be supportive of Islam or revert to Islam again. (e.g. Chechnya, Albania, Uzbekistan, etc)

    Churches in Europe are growing because of Muslims converting to Christianity. Read this article here

    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/european-churches-say-growing-flock-of-muslim-refugees-are-converting/ar-BBtT0vT?li=AAggNb9&ocid=mailsignoutmd

  33. Ron says:

    This is for Eric Allen Bell et al.
    Testimony of Dr Subodh K Pandit

    I have been in the position many of you are right now (a position of disbelief ) but I had an inquiring mind. Even I believe Ali Sina also held similar position at some point in his life.

    For skeptics even if we show the authentic degrees and people vouching for it, they will claim it is fake and say that these documents are fake, photo shopped and the witnesses are bought. There is little hope but only prayers that he will find the truth in Christ at some point later in life.

    Dr Subodh Pandit went through a journey through which many of you are traversing right now. Please don’t question his degrees and ask for proofs because you just cannot become a medical doctor with fake degrees in US.

    Listen to him with an open mind Yet if you are a skeptic you will discard the evidence. I laughed and made fun of Christians and considered some to be weak and meek, some foolish, some scheming and hypocrites and some naïve before searching for the truth in all religions and then accepting Christ. Read the below and see the videos, it will change you, if you are in inquirer.

    READ THIS FIRST. There are so many Ph.Ds. who have shown mammoth amounts of evidence for Christianity that I have never seen any other worldview even begin to rival. This seminar is one of the more comprehensive treatments summarizing some of the vast evidence for Christianity and comparing it with atheism, certain philosophies (Relativism, Pluralism and Exclusivism), major world religions (Hinduism, Islam, Christianity, Buddhism and Judaism) and some with modern Darwinism. Which follows the weight of evidence best? Dr. Pandit talks about how to answer the biggest questions in life that concern the choices we make everyday, how we can find truth objectively, is eternal life realistic, whether there is evidence for God and which view of God is most accurate (most views of God have at least some some truth in them). Dr. Subodh K Pandit describes his search for truth and how it led him from Hinduism, to atheism and eventually to Christianity.

    Dr. Pandit’s path is a path many academics and others have followed. They kind of just heard about God when young, but not much about the evidence (since most pastors are not trained in scientific and historical evidence and evidence for God is banned from public schools for several reasons). Because of this, atheism appears much more rational on the surface, so they go that route for a while. But, as they study deeper into the historical and scientific evidence, they realize that atheism has very serious problems and has very serious conflicts with the many major lines of evidence. They see more and more that Christianity (and in some cases other religions), have some quite compelling evidence, better than any other worldview.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0yIljyu9K8&¬list=PLADA90FCF20A839A1&index=1

    Searching for the truth is always valuable and beneficial in life. But, God does not condemn people for making honest mistakes in their conclusions. If we follow the evidence and truth we have, then God respects that, wink at ignorance and there will be quite a few in heaven that came to some different conclusions, but did their best to follow the truths they know (see Romans 2:12-16, Acts 17:21-30, etc.).

    Parts 1-8 starts with the 1st question of whether God exists or not and rational proofs and crucial foundational philosophy (other parts will be uploaded soon), It is an open, honest, politically incorrect, and yet bold, pursuit after the ‘truth’ of the matter from a standpoint that is about as objective as you can hope to find. Some arguments may be familiar and some criticize them. But, he explains why they are very valid and compelling in some new ways.

    The final conclusion regarding the Bible and Jesus is very compelling and difficult to deny. Check the notes for the outline (parts 1-8 are done, more will be coming soon).

    This first video deals with the depressing nothingness of atheism and the atmosphere of investigation needed to follow the weight of evidence.

    There are basically 3 kinds of people:
    1) Believers are people who will believe views regardless of the evidence.
    2) Skeptics are people who will discard views regardless of the evidence.
    3) Inquirers are people who will withhold judgement until they have reviewed the evidence and then focus on the weight of evidence.

    Inquirers are the ones who have made by far the most advances in knowledge in science, history and philosophy and this is the position that has the best chance of providing the best benefits and the most truth.

  34. Ron says:

    EAB,

    Passive Observer noted that you quoted the Bible scriptures
    It was disingenuous to not quote the source and just call it a familiar bit of old literature:.

    May be your detractors are really right and you are being a hypocrite.

    Just try out this prayer sincerely “ O God if you exist and if you have created me then come into my life through dreams and visions and show me the right path and confirm this right path through other unexpected sources. If you do not show up and do not confirm these answers through unexpected sources then I will continue on my present path which I believe is right”

    You will be surprised that this prayer will lead you to Christ.

  35. why? says:

    EAB,

    Although you think you do not follow Buddha, ultimately you believe what Buddha taught as ultimate reality by believing in what advaita teaches, that is Atma is Brahma (you are Brahma). You may not believe in the methods of Buddhist teachings, but believe that the nature of reality is Shunya (Nirguna Brahman) and that everything is in reality is this Nirguna Brahman (a whole that is without any intrinsic properties of its own, which is nothing but Shunya). Adi Shankara the founder of Advaita school plagarized his teachings from Nagarjuna school of Mahayana Buddhism. Mahayana Buddhism and Advaita are identical in teachings with respect to their concept of reality of existence. This belief is polar opposite of Vedic teachings and henc NOT anywhere close to Vedic teachings. Now with respect to other beliefs you may be a Hindu or even Vedic.

  36. Eric

    “Here is a passage from a familiar bit of old literature”

    This is a well known passage from the Bible (Ecclesiastes Chapter 3)

    “it has been said that a house divided will fall”.

    Jesus said in Mark 3:25 “If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand”

    Please give the credit to those who deserve.

  37. With each passing day, as I look inward and as I take in what is going on with the world outside, my heart opens. And the more it opens the more I understand why I have kept it shut for so long. The more my heart opens, the more I understand why the world has closed its heart.

    I find it harder and harder to criticize the world from a place of anger or disappointment. The screwed up world and the screwed up self are not only reflections of each other, they are one in the same. I am the suffering and the beauty and everything in between – not as some new philosophy but as a felt experience, moment by moment. And there are moments when the sadness of this place is overwhelming. And there are moments of such calm, such peace, such bliss beyond all understanding. These moments, they pass by like clouds. But the sky remains.

    If you love the world, it will break your heart. And if you don’t love the world, it will break your heart.

    Deep inside of you is a place where no sane person would go. But once visited, it is clear that to have ever avoided it, in the first place, was the true insanity. This world will take you for everything you’ve got. You won’t get out alive. You will be left with nothing. And in each glimpse, each taste I get of this nothingness, I find what is left. I will meet you there.

    – Eric Allen Bell

  38. Ron says:

    Eric,

    Your detractors have labelled you and your world-view as a bigot, racist, Hindu, Buddhist, witch, gay or gay-activist, atheist, anti-theist, anti-Christian, anti-Semite, Anti-jihadist (this is different from being anti-Muslim), anti-Muslim, anti-creationist and far-left liberal.

    From the little we know of your writings and posts and talks in the media your world-view is syncretic of all the above. That’s a pretty messed up world-view.

    You are made in the image of God and if you keep on searching the truth as Ali Sina is searching without any pre-conceived notions of the above messed up world-view and you will find the truth and the truth will set you free. (This does not mean that Ali Sina has found the truth but he is getting closer to The truth, The way and the Life. – (it’s a quantum leap from where he was in 2001 October when faithfreedom started)

    Just say this prayer sincerely “ O God if you exist and if you have created me then come into my life through dreams and visions and show me the right path and confirm this right path through other unexpected sources. If you do not show up and do not confirm these answers through unexpected sources then I will continue on my present path which I believe is right”

    You will note that in the above prayer you are not invoking the name of any deity because God answers prayers if you sincerely pray and reach out to him.

  39. HERE IS WHAT ONE WEBSITE HAS TO SAY, FOR WHAT IT’S WORTH:

    http://www.gotquestions.org/hinduism.html

    Question: “What is Hinduism and what do Hindus believe?”

    Answer: Hinduism is one of the oldest known organized religions—its sacred writings date as far back as 1400 to 1500 B.C. It is also one of the most diverse and complex, having millions of gods. Hindus have a wide variety of core beliefs and exist in many different sects. Although it is the third largest religion in the world, Hinduism exists primarily in India and Nepal.

    The main texts of Hinduism are the Vedas (considered most important), Upanishadas, the Mahabharata, and the Ramayana. These writings contain hymns, incantations, philosophies, rituals, poems, and stories from which Hindus base their beliefs. Other texts used in Hinduism include the Brahmanas, the Sutras, and the Aranyakas.

    Though Hinduism is often understood as being polytheistic, supposedly recognizing as many as 330 million gods, it also has one “god” that is supreme—Brahma. Brahma is an entity believed to inhabit every portion of reality and existence throughout the entire universe. Brahma is both impersonal and unknowable and is often believed to exist in three separate forms: Brahma—Creator; Vishnu—Preserver; and Shiva—Destroyer. These “facets” of Brahma are also known through the many other incarnations of each. It is difficult to summarize Hindu theology since the various Hindu schools contain elements of almost every theological system. Hinduism can be:

    1) Monistic—Only one thing exists; Sankara’s school

    2) Pantheistic—Only one divine thing exists so that God is identical to the world; Brahmanism

    3) Panentheistic—The world is part of God; Ramanuja’s School

    4) Theistic—Only one God, distinct from Creation; Bhakti Hinduism.

    Observing other schools, Hinduism can also be atheistic, deistic, or even nihilistic. With such diversity included under the title “Hindu,” one may wonder what makes them “Hindu” in the first place? About the only real issue is whether or not a belief system recognizes the Vedas as sacred. If it does, then it is Hindu. If not, then it is not Hindu.

    The Vedas are more than theology books. They contain a rich and colorful “theo-mythology,” that is, a religious mythology which deliberately interweaves myth, theology, and history to achieve a story-form religious root. This “theo-mythology” is so deeply rooted in India’s history and culture that to reject the Vedas is viewed as opposing India. Therefore, a belief system is rejected by Hinduism if it does not embrace Indian culture to some extent. If the system accepts Indian culture and its theo-mythical history, then it can be embraced as “Hindu” even if its theology is theistic, nihilistic, or atheistic. This openness to contradiction can be a headache for Westerners who seek logical consistency and rational defensibility in their religious views. But, to be fair, Christians are no more logical when they claim belief in Yahweh yet live life as practical atheists, denying Christ with their lives. For the Hindu the conflict is genuine logical contradiction. For the Christian, the conflict is more likely simple hypocrisy.

    Hinduism views mankind as divine. Because Brahma is everything, Hinduism asserts that everyone is divine. Atman, or self, is one with Brahman. All of reality outside of Brahman is considered mere illusion. The spiritual goal of a Hindu is to become one with Brahma, thus ceasing to exist in its illusory form of “individual self.” This freedom is referred to as “moksha.” Until moksha is achieved, a Hindu believes that he/she will be repeatedly reincarnated in order that he/she may work towards self-realization of the truth (the truth being that only Brahman exists, nothing else). How a person is reincarnated is determined by karma, which is a principle of cause and effect governed by nature’s balance. What one did in the past affects and corresponds with what happens in the future, past and future lives included.

  40. No, I am not a Buddhist. I do not follow the Buddha. I do not follow the Five Noble Truths. Let’s just start at the beginning, “All of life is suffering”. I do not agree with that. I also do not agree that one must become free of desire. Your assessment of my spirituality is misguided.

  41. why? says:

    EAB,

    These days there are umpteen number of practices, often contradicting and opposing religions, from utterly gross and evil (like aghoris and tatric sex rituals) practices that go against Vedas to most sublime practices in harmony with Vedas (practice of celibacy, control of senses, mind etc. through intense yoga) that grouped under the umbrella of Hinduism. Broadly, there are Vedic religions that accept Vedas as authentic scriptures and unvedic religions that openly reject vedas under the umbrella of Hinduism. Now, since you accept Vedas as per your claims (like advaitis or dvaitis or other orthodox schools), you are essentially a Hindu (following advaita) technically, although you do NOT follow like Hindus in India. However, as I have studied something on Vedas and knowing enough to reject advaita as Buddhism imposed on Vedas, you are more of a Buddhist in belief than a believer in actual teachings of Vedas. I consider philosophical advaitis who reject rituals and other parts of Vedas as essentially disbelievers in Vedas, although they can call themselves as a Hindu. Such advaitis are mostly neo-vedantis aka buddhists in essence (in terms of their beliefs) like Ramana who essentially rejected that even karma, rebirth etc. exists. Vedas are 100 % theistic in its teachings. Entire advaita is based on apparently 5 ambiguous verses (called pancha mahavakyas) from Upanishads, while every other verse in Vedas are theistic ONLY without any ambiguity.

  42. WHY I DO NOT HATE MUSLIMS

  43. TO THE PERSON CALLED “why?”

    I realize we have different concepts of what Hinduism is and is not. I thought you might find this amusing. It’s something a Hindu posted for me, on my Facebook page:

    “Eric, Hinduism doesn’t has any dogma or criteria. If you believe in some of its core philosophies you will be included into our faith. That’s why we don’t preach or force our religion. I have seen your posts on Advaita, Vedanta and Hindu spirituality in positive lights. So in my eyes you are a Hindu even if you don’t accept it. You don’t even need to declare yourself to be Hindu to become Hindu.”

    So you see, opinions differ on Hinduism quite a bit. Other Hindus, including a few teachers, have told me that I am basically a Hindu. I do not consider myself Hindu. That said, I have practiced Yoga, Meditation and Kirtan for many, many years. And I have read the Bhagavad Gita more times than I can remember. I used to listen to it on audio over and over as well. However, my interpretation of it is not the same probably as yours.

    If I had to put a name to my spiritual philosophy it would be “Vedic Mysticism”. Some say that is just a form of Hinduism. You would probably say that is not Hinduism. The person on my Facebook page says it is. What I told Walid, when he asked me a lot of questions about this, was that I was not a Hindu. I tried to explain what I feel the meaning of the “OM” symbol is and that this transcends any religious doctrine because it’s too big for that. Since my talk with Ted and Walid was online, I did keep a transcript of it. And I was absolutely clear that I was not a member of any religion, including Hinduism, and they seemed to accept that.

    The Shoebats preach that the Catholic Church is basically doing God’s work on Earth, fighting evil. And they say that this justifies their call for a one world Christian government and for laws which call for the execution of those who break “God’s laws”. It seems to me that they are still Muslim, but by a different name. Perhaps the Islam is still in their DNA.

  44. why? says:

    EAB,

    My sincere apologies to you then. I know Shoebats are dishonest bunch of christian evangelists as any other evangelists are. They control information in their websites and do NOT allow factual statements against their claims to be made. They are very prompt in banning people who go against Shoebats’ views.

    You are absolutely right about these nut cases as any other evangelist. These fools NOT only call for execution of witches (funny they think you are a witch, real nut cases they are), but execution of Hindus, Buddhistsnd virtually any other non-christian groups. In the following video the nutcase son Theodore Shoebat of retarded Walid Shoebat calls for invasion of India, murdering Hindus who do NOT convert, destroying Hindu temples and imprisoning/killing Yoga teachers. hahahaha 🙂 LOL…I have NOT seen an Islamic terrorist gone this crazy and wild…

    RWW News: Theodore Shoebat Would Invade India And Outlaw Yoga

  45. TO THE PERSON CALLED “why?”

    Incorrect: I had a long talk with both Walid and Ted Shoebat. They wanted to know what my religious or spiritual beliefs were. I explained very clearly that I was not a Hindu. We talked about Mysticism, the science of consciousness, how I see the statues as metaphors and do not pray to them, etc. This was an intentional misreporting.

    Also, many of the YouTube videos of me clearly that the number of times I was on Fox News. Just type my name into YouTube and it’s quite clear that it was not one time. But they decided to deceive their audience, knowingly, by saying I had appeared on Fox once and was a Hindu and a “witch”. In one of his videos, Theodore Shoebat, Walid’s Director of Communications, calls for the execution of witches.

  46. why? says:

    EAB,

    You have intentionally mislead the stupid Shoebats with pictures of Hindu temples and Hindu Gods in your blogging website. You used the crude hatred Shoebats have for Hindus, Buddhists in particular, etc. to make them appear as lunatics (which they are) and attack a proxy (Hinduism and Hindus), instead of directly attacking you. I should say your action is very well calculated.

  47. WOW: Here the Shoebats are saying that I am a Hindu (wrong), that I only appeared on Fox News once (very wrong) and that I am a witch and that witches should be executed. They profess to be Christians. And you will find them validated and praised all over Pamela Geller’s blog:
    http://shoebat.com/2016/05/29/christendom-is-the-only-force-that-will-destroy-islam-secularism-or-conservatism-will-always-fail/

  48. Richard says:

    “Here is an idea to consider: Your neighbor, the one you really don’t like, may be the most important teacher you will ever have. They may be teaching how to hate their conduct without hating the person”
    Reminds me of an old story – to be found here: https://beginningtopray.blogspot.co.uk/2009/09/spiritual-trials.html

    “Anthony Bloom wrote a book called Beginning to Pray and this book has some great advice about how to start a life of prayer. At one point, he relates a story about one of my favorite saints, Philip Neri. This youth minister who renewed the Church of Rome by starting a prayer group in the 16th Century was given a great grace as a young man. He noticed that he had a very hot temper, especially when provoked by some of his brothers. So he prayed for an intense length of time, asking the Lord to help him overcome his anger. Immediately after his prayer, he ran into the one brother with whom he never fought and this brother insulted him out of no where. They got into a horrible fight. Then, after this exchange, a similar thing happened with another brother. Philip was dismayed and returned to prayer to complain, “Lord, didn’t I ask you to free me from anger?” The Lord patiently responded, “Yes, that is why I am multiplying the opportunities for you to learn.”

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