The Islamic God, One in the same as the Triune God – A Misconception

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  1. continuum says:

    Found the Falsehood,


    1 And the Lord spoke to Moses on Mount Sinai, saying
    44 Your male slave or female slave whom you may have from the nations that are around you, from them you may acquire a male slave or a female slave.
    45 And also from the children of the residents that live among you, from them you may acquire [slaves] and from their family that is with you whom they begot in your land, and they shall become your inheritance.
    46 You shall hold onto them as an inheritance for your children after you, as acquired property, and may thus have them serve you forever. But as for your brethren, the children of Israel, a man shall not work his brother with rigor.
    55 For the children of Israel are servants to Me; they are My servants, whom I took out of the land of Egypt. I am the Lord, your God.


    Wife’s handmaid. After seven childless decades, Abraham’s frustrated wife Sarah says, “Go, sleep with my slave; perhaps I can build a family through her.” Her slave, Hagar, becomes pregnant. Two generations later, the sister-wives of Jacob repeatedly send their slaves to him, each trying to produce more sons than the other (Genesis 30:1-22).

    Other slaves. A man should not have sex with a slave if she is betrothed to another man – but if they do, she is to be scourged (beaten) and he must sacrifice a sheep (Leviticus 19:20-22, KJV).

    It is understood by Jewish and Christian commentators that this referred to the sale of a daughter, who “is not arrived to the age of twelve years and a day, and this through poverty.”[38]

    And if a man sells his daughter to be a female slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. If she does not please her master, who has betrothed her to himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He shall have no right to sell her to a foreign people, since he has dealt deceitfully with her. And if he has betrothed her to his son, he shall deal with her according to the custom of daughters. If he takes another wife, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, and her marriage rights. And if he does not do these three for her, then she shall go out free, without paying money.

    — Exodus 21


  2. Found The Truth says:

    Christ changes people drastically for better.
    See how this mosty feared gang leader became a preacher and now will not hurt anyone.

    All other religions (or even atheism) will make you hate people (not of their religion). Its only Christ who can change you for the good.

  3. Face_The_Truth says:

    This message is intended for screen-name Truth_Triumphs.

    You DO NOT know the history of Christianism.

    Christianism prospered through murder, mayhem, debauchery, homo-sexualism, pedophilia, and by the swords of despicable Christian despots.

    People who refused to believe in fictitious Christian “God the Father” and fictitious God the Father’s one and only homo-sexual “Son” were burned alive while non-believers’ lands and properties were re-distributed to “Faithful” Christians!

    Non-believers were forced into believing in fictitious Christian “God the Father” and fictitious God the Father’s one and only homo-sexual “Son” (i.e., Jesus F**king Jew).

    Looting other people’s wealth, money, lands and properties is the inherent and primordial theme of all 3 so-called “Mono-Theistic” religions, namely Judaism, Christianism and Islam.

    During 150 years of British Christian imperialism in Indian sub-continent, British Christian imperialists looted ONE HUNDRED MILLION British Pound-Sterling from Indian poor people EVERY YEAR.

  4. Truth Triumps says:

    Face_The_Truth:: Seems you are away from Real Facts. All God Worshiping Religions get people through Convictions, but Islam through Imposition. God Worshiping Religions do not Retain Anyone by Force, but Islam by Force.
    God Worshiping Religions, do not Object others from Preaching, but Islam doesn’t allow Any Other Faith to Preach with them.

  5. Face_The_Truth says:

    This message is intended for screen-name Mario_Alexis_Portella.

    Dear Sir:

    Please do not lie to me.

    I am sick and tired of being sick and tired due to constant lies from Christians and Muslims.

    Muslims ALSO invite non-believers to accept that, there is no other God in the entire universe except fictitious Islamic “Allah” (i.e., read Jehovah) and rape-born Muhammad the Arabian was fictitious Islamic Allah’s final prophet.

    Along with Islamic invitation, non-believers are given 3 options by faithful Muslims:

    (1) Accept Islam and become Muslims and practice Soon’Nah, or

    (2) Pay very high and humiliating Islamic poll-tax for not becoming Muslims and, therefore, live as third-class sub-humans, or

    (3) Death by beheading of all non-believer-males of arms-bearing age and mandatory sexual slavery for all non-believer-females of all ages.

    The above 3 Islamic options were directly codified in Islam from the dictates of Jewish prophet Moses the Egyptian who mercilessly murdered non-believers, raped non-believers and looted non-believers’ lands and properties.

    My readers on this FaithFreedom.Org website can easily see that, Islam and Christianity are scourge to humanity and basic human decency.


  6. Walter Sieruk says:

    The scholar as well as author, Nabeel Qureshi of the book entitled ANSWERING JIHAD who in the past was a Muslim but now a Christian had explained clearly that god of Islam is not the God of the Bible. For on page 113 in his book he informs the reader that “Islam roundly condemns worship of the Trinity [5:73], establishing in contrast its own core principle of Tawhid, the absolute oneness of God. Tawhid emphatically denies the Trinity; so much that it is safe to say the doctrine of God in Islam is antithetical to the doctrine of God in Christianity. Not just different but opposed.” Further on page 116 he elaborates that “Tawhid is antithetical to the Trinity, fundamentally incompatible and only similar superficially and semantically, Muslims and Christians do not worship the same God.” Therefore it’s fitting then to make a reiteration of the following essay on this very important subject.

  7. There are a number of apologists for Islam, some are imams and mullahs and strangely enough, even some so called “Christian” pastors, who have made the outstanding claim that Christians and Muslim both believe in and worship the same God. So it stands to reason that it’s important to know if this claims valid and true or invalid and false. The facts are that the god of Islam or the Muslims is a single being. In great contrast the God of Christianity, of the Christians consists as the Trinity. By the Trinity it means that “Within the essence of the one True God there are Three Persons. Being God the Father. God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Not three gods in one But Three Distinct Persons in One God. Being the Tri-Personal Nature of God, Matthew 3:13-17. Second Corinthians 13:14. . The Bible teaches, the Father is God, Galatians 1:1.The Son is God, First John 5:20. The Holy Spirit is God, Acts 5:3,4. Not three gods but the one and only Triune God.
    As further explained in the Christian book MAJOR BIBLE THEMES by Lewis Sperry Chafer on page 39 which informs the readers that “Many believe that the doctrine of the Trinity in implicit in the use of the word Elohim, as the name of God which is in a plural form and seems to refer to the Triune God. “ Likewise, in the Christian magazine PERHAPS TODAY November/December 2013 on page 8 it reads about Genesis 1:1. “In the beginning God [this is the plural noun Elohim, meaning ‘more than one’] created the heaven and the earth.” Furthermore, a bit of a view of the inner workings of the Trinity together may be seen in that the God the Father raised Jesus from the dead. Romans 10:9,10. Jesus raised Himself from the dead, John 2:19,20. The Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead, Romans 8:11.The inner-workings of the Trinity of God may also be seen in the fact that the Father sanctifies, First Thessalonians 5:23. The Son sanctifies, Ephesians 5:26. Hebrews 2:11; 9:12,14;13:12.The Holy Spirit sanctifies ,Romans 15:16. Second Thessalonians 2:13. Getting back to the Bible book of Genesis. In Genesis 1:26 in reads “The God said let US make man in Our image , according to our likeness…” The words are the plural “Us” and “Our.” As in “We the Trinity” For the very next verse, 27, it further reads “So God created man in His own image…” In verse 26 it’s the plural “Us” and “Our” to the singular “His” That is Three Persons in One God. In addition, in the New Testament in Matthew 28:19 It further reads the Jesus said “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the the Son and the Holy Spirit.” [N.K.J.V] That is “name” not “names.” In conclusion the many apologists and propagandists for Islam for Islam who make the claim that Christians and Muslims believe in and worship the same God are make an untrue and outright false claim. For the God of Christianity, Christians and the Bible is not the god of Islam Muslims and the Koran.

  8. Christians invite while Muslims have imposed. I invite you to read my book and see the evidence I provide. To lay it all on a simple “reply” is not possible.

  9. Face_The_Truth says:

    This message is intended for screen-name Truth_Triumphs.

    Muslims and Christians do not consider non-believers have any soul, let alone creating the “Trinity” of Soul, Body and Mind.

    Muslims and Christians enslave non-believers into slavery on earth and promise eternal burning hell after death on earth.

    Muslims and Christians loot non-believers’ properties and rape non-believer females on earth as “Divine” punishment(s).

    Muslims cut off (i.e., beheading) the heads of non-believer males of arms-bearing age and Christians burn alive non-believers and heretics (i.e., Christians by faith, but do not conform to everything the Christian Church says.).

    Muslims and Christians enter non-believers lands in order to proselytize non-believers into Islamic and Christian falsehoods and try to over-turn existing political systems in non-believers’ lands.

    Muslims do charity to other Muslims who believe that fictitious Islamic “Allah” is the only true God and the so-called only true God (i.e., fictitious Islamic “Allah”) sent multitude of so-called “Prophets” in order to correct human behavior(s) on earth throughout the millennia while Muhammad the Arabian was the final “Prophet” who came just over 1400 years ago.

    Christians do charity to all in the hope that non-believers will ultimately succumb to 2000-years-old Christian fiction that, there exist “God The Father” and “The Son” and “The Holy Ghost” — which comprise fictitious Christian “Trinity”.

  10. Truth Triumps says:

    Trinity is a Mystery beyond the catch of Human Brain. Even a Human is Trinity(Body,-Mind and Soul). other religions also teach about God (not Triune). Islam teaches No God but Allah and Allah is mightier than Gods shown by Other Religions.. Both God and Allah are Different. See few Apparent Differences.

    1. God’s Might is Shown by Miracles. Allah’s Might is shown by Fans, by Butchering Innocent humans, labeling Inferior Creatures, shouting ‘Allahu Akbar’.

    2. God is Omnipresent. Allah situates in a Blackstone.

    3. God All Linguistic.Allah is Monolinguistic.

    4. God’s Prophets were Simple and Humble and Commanded Respect. Allah’s Prophet was Egoist, Proud, Boasting, and Demanded Respect.

    5. God performed Miracles through the Prophets. Allah did not do Any Miracle through the Prophet.

  11. Mario Alexis Portella says:

    I meant to say Church Fathers; “cathedral” was a day and type mistake on my part.

  12. Mario Alexis Portella says:

    It’s not just the Bible but cathedral Church Fathers and Magesterium that teaches, based on the Bible. I respectfully do not accept the Quran as divine revelation just as you do not accept our Sacred Scripture.

    There really isn’t sense in trying to debate over this since we do not going to have a common ground of departure. In either case, thank you for your comment.

  13. Face_The_Truth says:

    Muhammad the Arabian very clearly stated that, “Allah” (i.e., read “Jehovah”) had NO son.

    So, NO faithful Muslim either believe or accept that, “Allah” needed a “Son” to guide the humanity 2000 years ago!

    Christian “Trinity” was a made up fiction, which was just like making fictitious Hebrew God “Jehovah” into “God the Father”.

    But, my readers will notice that, there was (is) no “Goddess” in Jewish Hebrew scriptures; so, early Christians (i.e., read “Bold-Faced Liars”) invented fictional “Virgin Mary” out of Jewish “Miriam” — who was a semi-prostitute.

    ‘Matthew’s citation from Isaiah can be dismissed straight away as a clumsy attempt at cover up.

    As a Jew conversant with the Hebrew Bible, Matthew must have known that the word “almah” used by Isaiah DID NOT mean “virgin”, but “young woman”, and that the correct Hebrew word for “virgin” was “betulah” which Isaiah had used five times, BUT NOT in this context.

    Matthew chose to cite from the Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Bible, because there the word “almah” had been wrongly translated as “parthenos”, the Greek word for “virgin”.

    New translations of the Bible have corrected the mistake!

    It is only the Christian Catholic Church which continues to stick not only to the dogma of the virgin-birth of Jesus, but also to the myth of Mary’s permanent virginity, and refuses to face the fact that Matthew, who floated the myth, himself mentions Mary as having conjugal relations with Joseph only a few lines later.

    Elsewhere in the Christian Gospels we find Mary being mentioned as the mother of several children besides Jesus.

    The Christian Catholic Church, however, has extended the dogma of Mary’s virginity to her and her female ancestors’ Immaculate Conception ad infinitium.

    This ridiculous exercise provoked Anatole France (i.e., Nobel laureate François-Anatole Thibault who rejected Christian faith and Christian falsehoods) to write a story in which a prostitute in Paris, France, kneels before a statue of Virgin Mary and prays,

    “Holy Mother! You conceived without sinning. Let me sin without conceiving.”

    It is also significant that all the four female ancestors of Mary mentioned by Matthew in his genealogy of Jesus happen to be fallen women!

    “Tamar was a temple prostitute;

    Rahab was the madam of a brothel;

    Ruth, the most moral, indulged in some pretty shameless sexual exploitation; and

    Bathsheba committed adultery with Jewish King David.

    Was the author of the Matthew genealogy implying something about the only other woman mentioned, Mary herself?”

    The real reason for floating the myth of virgin-birth seems to be that “there had always been a question mark hanging over Mary’s sexual morality” and that “it was clearly a subject which caused the early Christians (i.e., primitive Christians) acute embarrassment”.

    In fact, there has been a long-standing tradition among the Jews that Jesus was the fruit of an adulterous union between Mary and a Roman soldier named Tiberius Julius Abdes Panthera.

    The story had also spread to the Pagans in the ancient world.

    Origen of Alexandria found the Roman philosopher Celsus referring to it in Celsus’s anti-Christian polemics around AD 178.

    World’s Christians have tended to dismiss the story as a malicious piece of invention, suggesting that Tiberius Julius Abdes Panthera may have been a corruption of Greek word ‘parthenos’ meaning virgin.

    “Intriguingly, world’s Christians’ interpretation fell a little flat with the discovery at Bingerbrück in Germany of the tombstone of one Tiberius Julius Abdes Panthera, a Roman archer from Sidon in Phoenicia.

    Although it would be fanciful seriously to suggest that Tiberius Julius Abdes Panthera was Jesus’s real father, the tombstone does happen to date from the appropriate early Roman imperial period.”

    This “unfortunate circumstance” of Jesus’s birth may explain Jesus’s hostility to his biological mother and lack of enthusiasm for his step-brothers!

    In John (2.3-4) we find him giving short shrift to his mother at the marriage in Cana.

    In Luke (11.27-28) there is more than a hint that Jesus DID NOT consider his biological mother Mary among those “who hear the word of ‘God the Father’ and keep it”.

    In Matthew (12.46-50), Mark (3.31-35), and Luke (8.19-21) Jesus shows NO warmth for his biological mother Mary and his step-brothers — who supposedly come all the way from Nazareth to Capernaum to pay Jesus a visit.’

  14. I thank you for your comment. If I may respectfully make the disctinction, in the gospels Jesus says Father, Son, and Holy Spirit = Trinity. Jesus is divine as per the prologue of the Gospe of John, “In the beginning was theWord, and the Word was God…and the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.” Also, understanding that Muslims too believe that Jesus is the Messiah, we do not see Him as being purified from sin, since He is divine; He is also our Savior.
    Thanks, once more, for your comment.

  15. Passive observer says:

    Thanks, Mario
    Just as the word Tawhid (oneness of Allah) is not found in the Koran, the word Trinity is not found in the Bible. Both these words are derived from the components of the respective scriptures
    Among all other religions only the Muslims come closer to understand the Christian doctrine of Trinity, which is nothing but GOD, His word Jesus, His spirit is Holy Spirit. Just as man is created in the image of God; he too in the form of Trinity BODY, MIND, and SOUL

    Koran recognizes all three: One God, The word of God and the Holy Spirit in the Koran.

    “We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you; our Ilah (God) and your Ilah (God) is One (i.e. Allah), and to Him we have submitted (as Muslims).” (K 29:46)

    The Messiah ‘Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah and HIS WORD (K 4:171)

    We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the Holy spirit.(K 2:87)