Discussion with Terence, the Returned Jesus Christ and Mahdi in One

Ali Sina

Ali Sina is the author of Understanding Muhammad and Muslims.

13 Responses

  1. Lizzie says:

    A lot of people who have Bi-Polar disorder think they are Jesus or Mohammed or Napoleon etc.
    Its amazing this Terrence thinks he’s a double cult figure. I’m just awaiting the miracles,-walking on water and statements of fact instead of ‘I believe’
    If the man is poorly one can sympathise with his blasphemy but if not one can only suspect venal motives.

  2. Ron says:

    See this is where Christ makes a difference
    http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/christian-father-beheaded-isis-teach-my-children-principles-jesus-Christ

    Among the 21 Coptic Christian workers beheaded on a beach in Libya last year by ISIS was a father who, before he went to Libya as a migrant worker, told his wife he knew it was dangerous and that if he did not make it back alive, to please teach their children “the principles of Jesus Christ.” So testified lawyer and humanitarian Jacqueline Isaac, who met in Egypt with the families of 15 of the 21 victims and told Congress about the genocide being perpetrated by the Islamic State.

    Jacqueline Isaac, vice president of the humanitarian group Roads of Success, spoke at a May 13, 2015 hearing on ISIS and religious minorities held by the House Foreign Affairs Committee. Despite the horrific stories and documentation she presented to the committee along with other witnesses, none of the major news broadcast outlets covered the hearing — not ABC, CBS, or NBC.
    Commenting on the genocidal actions of the Islamic State, which are producing many orphans, Rep. Chris Smith (R-N.J.) asked Isaac, “If I could ask you, where is the faith of these young people?”

    Isaac said, “Congressman Smith, I went to Egypt and I met the families, 15 of the 21 families that had victims that were slaughtered in Libya. I was astonished by their faith.”

    “As a fellow Christian, I thought, how would I be if I were in this situation today?” she said. “Meeting the fathers that said to me, ‘Thank God that today [my sons] they are in Heaven. Thank God.’”

    “A wife, talking to me about how her husband had said, ‘I am going to Libya and I will be in danger. But if I don’t make it, teach my children, teach them the principles of Jesus Christ.'” recounted Isaac.

    “That is the story,” she said. “These are the accounts of their faith. And I’ve seen it in Iraq across the board how Christians are standing strong and helping all, [and] helping the Yazidis.”

    “In fact, we had a case,” said Isaac. “I remember there was a group of Yazidis that found a local [Christian] church and the church was providing care for them, providing a home for them. This is what they’re doing. They’re struggling but they’re giving everything they have. So, thank you.”

    U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry declared on March 18 of this year, “My purpose here today is to assert in my judgment, (ISIS) is responsible for genocide against groups in areas under its control including Yazidis, Christians and Shiite Muslims.”

    Also, the British House of Commons voted unanimously on April 20 to declare the actions by ISIS/Daesh as genocide, despite the opposition of then Prime Minister David Cameron and his Conservative Party administration.

  3. Steve says:

    “They are NOT set-in-stone future-predictions of what WILL happen. They ARE “possibilities” that are “perceived” for what CAN “likely” happen (but as future is NOT pre-deterministic the “hunches” are NOT always guaranteed to happen).” Which means so called prophecies are just guesses based on the current information. And if the “prophecy” fails then you can always fall back on “but the future is not set in stone”. Which is very convenient for these prophets of a God who has perfect knowledge of all future events?

    “The term that should be used instead is mental/emotional disturbance, subjugation of the mind/emotions, etc.” That is the same as “mental illness”. A person who is mentally ill their mind is not functioning properly. Religious beliefs and delusions are indistinguishable from what we call mental illness or “insanity”.

    “I think you are not very well familiar with Remote-Viewing. Information cannot be destroyed (because energy cannot be destroyed). ” Right random guy on the Internet who believes in remote viewing, “prophecies” and Terence the returned Mahdi/Christ knows more about information physics than a theoretical physicist (which is where my info comes from).

    “The energy is only converted. The claim that all information is always preserved has been even stated by Remote-Viewers.” So what was on Hilary’s 33 thousand deleted emails she hide from the FBI? Also while you are there what is next weeks lottery numbers then? Terence could do with the money – and since you claim this information already exists and can be accessed it should be no problem. Information is a structure of matter when that structure is destroyed the information about that thing and what state it was in is also gone. This is the reality.

    “Satanic God” will go into forcing EXTORTION upon an elderly man, such that they would even go so far as to have him jailed for over eight years for the purposes of trying to FORCE him to pay money to YOUR “Satanic” God (the currency called money and the institution called government).” No government is forcing your guru to stay in their country he can leave whether he wants to. He is benefiting from the “satanic government” its infrastructure and using its resources so he has to pay if you don’t want to then leave the country. The bible says (which this Terence says he believes in) thieves should be stoned to death and the Koran says (which again you say you believe in) the hand of the thief should be cut, so according to your own standard the governments would be justified in killing you. Hopefully Ali Sina and others don’t waste their time giving you nutters a platform to preach this garbage.

    “(and don’t tell me that money or government is not your God because if you pay taxes or vote or fund or support in ANY way any activities that PUNISH people for the most asinine or trivial of matters then your REAL God IS the Satanic Government even if you SAY that some Religion-Defined God is your God).” 99.9% of the time “the satanic government” (whose country you choose to live in) will be civil with you by simply giving you a fine. The society does not initiate aggression and force but only responds to it.

    “You DO know what an Oxy-Moron is do you not ?” The very idea of “omnipotence” is nonsense and incoherent so all this talk about Good aspect and bad aspect is just waffle. How can a being be both evil and good at the same time? This being you believe in must be like Dr Jekyllr and Mr Hyde.

  4. Aeius C Cercle says:

    @Steve 「The existence of indeterminsm proves this and proves that “prophets” and their “prophecies” are nonsense.」I don’t think you were paying attention to my description/definition of prophecies. They are NOT set-in-stone future-predictions of what WILL happen. They ARE “possibilities” that are “perceived” for what CAN “likely” happen (but as future is NOT pre-deterministic the “hunches” are NOT always guaranteed to happen). Some things happen in cycles, and in that sense, you can “predict” with reliable accuracy when a particular cycle will repeat (e.g. moon-phases). Animals can also be predicted to behave in certain ways if the cycles of nature are observed for long enough. When it comes to humans, the cycles often run in three to four generations at a time, and then there are also cycles that run in the various nations/societies/civilisations throughout history, for which a “prediction/prophecy” then becomes less “precise” when a cycle will repeat.

    「Yes this is called mental illness. People brainwashed by cults also display similar behaviours.」I am only here to try and «clarify» what Terence is trying to communicate. I understand that he is a «simple» man without advanced levels of vocabulary but there are plenty of well-documented research-papers that confirm that absolute vast majority of what he has written to have validity (some of which include the works of Dr. Carl Wickland, the book by Ian Currie “You Cannot Die: The Incredible Findings of a Century of Research on Death”, the 12000 page archives of the Cross-Correspondences of Frederick Myers and his research-team, etc).

    The term «mental illness» also happens to be extremely derogatory and virtually everybody working in governing institutions meets the criteria for having a so-called mental-illness (i.e.: expressions of insanity in the sense of displaying aggression/negative-emotions even to the point of acting violently upon others for the most asinine of reasons). The term that should be used instead is mental/emotional disturbance, subjugation of the mind/emotions, etc.

    「What gets created is in part our responsibility. We can choose to help create and preserve information. Or we can choose to destroy it. ”」I think you are not very well familiar with Remote-Viewing. Information cannot be destroyed (because energy cannot be destroyed). The energy is only converted. The claim that all information is always preserved has been even stated by Remote-Viewers.

    「Then show that your God is not lying and is not satan show that this Terence is not lying and all the called prophets and religions are not lies – since your God can lie, destroy and deceive.」I do not have to prove anything as I only came here to CLARIFY his meaning and will only quote a «Scripture» verse that God Uses the Foolish Things of the World to Shame Those Who Think That They Are Wise Men. I came here, with FULL memories of my pre-universe experiences still intact, and trying to talk to you people in this universe is like talking to a bunch of goldfish in a fishbowl who insists that nothing could possibly exist outside of their fishbowl. What I WILL tell you is that Terence has my FULL respect, because he used himself as an example of how far YOUR “Satanic God” will go into forcing EXTORTION upon an elderly man, such that they would even go so far as to have him jailed for over eight years for the purposes of trying to FORCE him to pay money to YOUR “Satanic” God (the currency called money and the institution called government).

    You see, Terence KNEW that he could have EASILY paid a 15$AU to be left alone by the police, but «allowed» himself to be used as a public “example” for purposes of trying to SHOW the rest of us how “Satanic/Extortionist/Despotic” the worldly systems have become to the point that humanity would choose to jail an old man for over 8 years all over a TRIVIAL/petty amount of 15$AU. Even a mere 20 cents charge on a Parking Meter seems to invoke YOUR «SATANIC» God into having the «perceived offender» dragged into courts and/or jailed for years and years on end (and don’t tell me that money or government is not your God because if you pay taxes or vote or fund or support in ANY way any activities that PUNISH people for the most asinine or trivial of matters then your REAL God IS the Satanic Government even if you SAY that some Religion-Defined God is your God).

    Terence actually ENDURED the «torture» and extortionists attempts that YOUR Satanic Government God subjected him to and did so WILLINGLY so as to NOT be complicit to funding the wages of Domestic-Terrorist Mercenaries. For THAT reason I CANNOT help BUT to have a HUGE amount of RESPECT for this man. You should read all of his letters from prison that are archived on his web-site (I am quite certain that you have not). I have also already in my earlier/previous post described God in context of the writings of Terence. The reference that you CANNOT have BOTH «ALL Powerful» and «ALL/ONLY Love» was a reference to LOGIC (because by DEFINITION, ALL Powerful means the ALL, the EVERYTHING, instead of meaning Capable of Love but not Destruction, instead of meaning Capable of Hate but not Creativity). God is described as ALL, a DUAL-Energy System, containing BOTH the SOURCE of ALL Destruction as WELL as Creativity.

    Did I not describe it clearly enough before? Let me use the bible (Buy-Bull for any Atheist readers) for example. A lot of self-professing Christians say that the bible was written by God. The Buy-Bull also contains a lot of proven-to-be-false or otherwise extremely despotic/satanic/wicked megalomaniacal writings (see the writings of Jehovah Unmasked by Nathaniel Merritt). I COULD say that yes, sure the bible was written/inspired by God, but the DIFFERENCE is as to whether or not it came from the LIGHT/Creative ASPECT of God or from the DARK/Destructive ASPECT. I am only CLARIFYING the DEFINITION of God for purposes of helping readers to gain a better understanding of what Terence is trying to communicate (because I know that he is but a simple man without anywhere near the sophisticated level of vocabulary that I possess).

    Let me try one more time…: ANY thought/deed/activity/system/etc., that is Benign, Loving, Caring, Benevolent, Forgiving, Merciful, Generous, Creative, Joyful, Kind, Respectful, Considerate, Honest, Patient, Positive, Freedom-Permitting, Cooperative, etc., ALL of these come from and originate from the LIGHT Aspect of the Source/God, the Light Sovereign Power.

    Contrasted…: ANY thought/deed/activity/system/etc., that is Malignant, Hateful, Callous, Uncaring, Malevolent, Unforgiving, Destructive, Merciless, Greedy, Manipulative, Angry, Unkind, Disrespectful, Inconsiderate, Dishonest, Impatient, Negative, Totalitarian, Dictatorial, Despotic, Uncooperative, Taxing, Invasive, Intrusive, Controlling, etc., then ALL of THOSE come from and originate from the DARK Aspect of the Source/God, the Dark Sovereign Power.

    Logically, you CANNOT put «ONLY Love» AND «ALL Powerful» into the SAME being/concept/entity. Why? It’s essentially an OXYMORON. The POINT I was making is that IF God was going to be DEFINED as a «ONLY Love» idea/concept/entity/being then it CANNOT also include «ALL Powerful» and vice-versa. You DO know what an Oxy-Moron is do you not ? Anyway, that is about all I can respond with at this time to try and clarify what Terence has been trying to say, but that he lacks the fluency in the English language to be able to translate the different nuances/idioms into dialects that can be more easily understood. I am only here to translate/clarify rather than debate/argue as I know that the development of our understanding of things is a PERSONAL responsibility. I had to humble myself and swallow my disbelief for a full year and a half before I finally compared what Scholars had concluded about the Dead Sea Scrolls, considering the writings of Daniel Rosenblit in his Living Martyrs Ministries account of his NDE/JDE, the replies that I had received from Terence from the beginning that I found astounding, before I could no longer deny that Terence seemed to be the genuine deal, unlike all of those other so-called self-proclaimed Messiahs throughout history, and namely because his DEFINITION of God actually makes the MOST sense for my full of various forests paradigm (yes, full of forests, not just trees even if one of those forests is full of the trees of philosophies).

  5. Steve says:

    @Aéius Cercle
    “What I will state is that the future is not pre-deterministic and, regarding the concerns of Terence, his warnings can be summed up by describing how this world/universe/existence is full of traps that result in self-destructive mind-control.” In that case then fortune telling is nonsense. The future is not written and nobody knows it and anybody that claims to is a liar. The existence of indeterminsm proves this and proves that “prophets” and their “prophecies” are nonsense. http://www.informationphilosopher.com/freedom/laplaces_demon.html

    http://www.informationphilosopher.com/knowledge/information.html

    http://www.informationphilosopher.com/introduction/physics/#reversibility

    “In information philosophy, the future is unpredictable for two basic reasons. First, quantum mechanics shows that some events are not predictable. The world is causal but not determined. Second, the early universe does not contain the information of later times, just as early primates do not contain the information structures for intelligence and verbal communication, and infants do not contain the knowledge and remembered experience they will have as adults.
    In the naive world of Laplace’s demon and strict determinism, all the information in the universe is constant at all times, perhaps consistent with an omniscient God.
    Creative cosmic processes suggest another image of God.
    Two principles of information philosophy and a corollary
    The Principle of Increasing Information. In our open and expanding universe, the maximum possible entropy is increasing faster than the actual entropy. The difference between maximum possible entropy and the current entropy is called negative entropy.
    Ergodic processes have room to increase the information structures in the universe. As pointed out by David Layzer, the Arrow of Time points not only to increasing disorder but also to increasing information.
    The universe is its own observer.

    The Principle of “Soft” Causality. Events are always caused but not always determined. An event is caused by prior and proximate events (technically those within its relativistic light cone from the past), but not every event is predictable. Indeed, as logical philosophers would put it, determinism is not true. The determinism we have is merely “adequate determinism”.
    Soft causality does not entail strict determinism.
    The Corollary. The universe is creative. Information structures and processes are emergent. Deterministic phenomena are emergent. Some laws of nature are emergent. Knowledge of the present did not all exist in the past. The creative process continues. Life and humanity are a part of the process. What gets created is in part our responsibility. We can choose to help create and preserve information. Or we can choose to destroy it. ”

    “The «danger» that Terence warns of is the fact that the «mind» can easily become «broached» from «forces that will cause you to behave in such a manner that even your own family would describe that you ‘were like another person’ (the more typical modern-day vocabulary for what some might call spirit-possession)» and this results in a negativity that gets saved/recorded into the history of your Book-of-Life Records.” Yes this is called mental illness. People brainwashed by cults also display similar behaviours.

    “How in the world are our deeds recorded ? Everyone should be familir with Earth’s Electro-Magnetic Field by now. Well, humans, too, also have their own such similar fields. Now consider that a Compact-Disc is nothing more than a flat piece of shiny plastic. A two-gram CD can yet still hold/store a LOT of information for replay (entire MOVIES for that matter). Even though it’s nothing more than shiny plastic (crystal to be more accurate/specific). Weighs a TINY amount. Everything you do is also stored into your own «memory» system, and if you forget, then it simply became a part of your sub-conscious (and becomes something like data stored away into parts of your hard-drive [ROM : Read-Only Memory] that might be collecting dust whilst your active memories become like what you have loaded into your RAM [Random-Access Memory]).” Unfortunately not as entropy in the universe increases information is destroyed. Think of a perfume in its container. You know where the perform is but if you release the perfume into the air that information state (about where the perfume molecules are) is lost. Thus information is lost and so it is for human beings also when we die. Information is also lost when its physical container or substrate is destroyed. Information is essential a structure of matter. When that structure is gone so is the information. Likewise when our brain dies so does our information.

    “For any entity to be «All-Powerful» …does that not mean literally «ALL» Powerful ? And by the word ALL Powerful, this would imply that said entity HAS the capability to do such things like DESTROY and DECEIVE, otherwise you cannot by definition call said entity «ALL-Powerful» (because the lack of ability for DESTRUCTION and DECEPTION essentially makes the entity «HALF-Powerful» instead of being capable of absolutely EVERYTHING). The «Ultimate Deceiver of All» happens to be called that for a reason (and its deceptive-capabilities are so great that it can make virtually all of the inhabitants of whole entire universes dismiss all of the handfuls of truth-tellers as being nothing but a bunch of crazy and insane, lunatic, tin-foil hat-wearing, mentally ill and deluded nut-case conspiracy theorists, and its ULTIMATE weapon happens to be that of which is called : MIND-CONTROL).” Then show that your God is not lying and is not satan show that this Terence is not lying and all the called prophets and religions are not lies – since your God can lie, destroy and deceive.

  6. Aéius Cercle says:

    I see that this is a somewhat recent article (2016CE10m09d).

    I am familiar with Terence, have read the vast majority of his writings, but find that the vast majority of the world will continue to misunderstand him. I will now be joining into this conversation, but as my time is limited, all I can try to do is to translate the messages of Terence into more «objective» vocabulary.

    The whole entire point of the «warnings» that Terence brings is not without substance. I am not going to cite «God» nor any writings that were touched by mortals (whether bible or qu’ran or otherwise). What I will state is that the future is not pre-deterministic and, regarding the concerns of Terence, his warnings can be summed up by describing how this world/universe/existence is full of traps that result in self-destructive mind-control.

    Some versions of mind-altering and/or mood-changing phenomena are obvious, such as the influence of drugs or the intoxication of alcohol, but problem-causing thought-interference phenomena is not limited to the consumption of drugs and alcohol. Changes of behaviour become extremely obvious in people who are subjected to withdrawal symptoms, such as from a drug, and it is not uncommon for people to describe the changes that said individual «was like another person» (this was called «spirit-possession» back in times of old). Statements like «the ‘normal’ them would never act that way» are not uncommon from family members.

    Alright, this covers the more «obvious» versions of mind-control, but now we need to see that mind-altering/mood-changing phenomenon extends beyond the influence of drugs or contamination of alcohol. Remember, back in the day, when whales were reported all over the news to be beaching themselves ? That was a result of U.S. Naval Sonar-Testing (weaponry). Frequencies. Sonar-Frequencies. The frequencies caused the whales to behave in such a manner as to beach themselves (marine-biologists also discovered that the whales often had severe damage to their internal auditory organs).

    This is important to understand, because these frequencies have been in high-activity over the last couple of years and are scheduled to continue for the next few, and that WILL result in a HUGE reduction in the world’s food-supply (this is evidence of one of the prophecies given by Terence, that food will become SCARCE, and is already the case in Venezuela). Similarly, devices exist that can control the minds of humans, too. They are known as psychotronics or psychotronic-weaponry. I believe that these devices, that are now clandestinely scattered all over the earth in strategic corporate/military locations, will be the «trigger» for what some denominations/divisions of «Christianity» may call : «Armageddon of the MIND»

    I can also go over much more many examples of different other types of mind-control phenomena but, for now, were I to help clarify the messages of Terence it would basically be like this…:

    Following the Straight and Narrow Path That Leadeth Into The Pearly Gates of Heaven :
    Your thoughts/actions are/must always (be) kind, forgiving, merciful, benevolent, generous, creative, benign, caring, loving, honest, truthful, factual, educative, rehabilative, peaceful, patient, fearless, positive, etc., regardless of whatever happens to you (referencing one’s interactions with others).

    The WIDE Road That Leadeth to HELL :
    The thoughts/actions always find some «justification» that results in any individual seeking revenge, being merciless, taxing, invading, controlling, vengeful, wrathful, malignant, malevolent, destructive, dishonest, greedy, forceful, manipulative, dishonest, deceitful, parasitical, punitive, violent, thieving, stealing, fearful, scheming, callous, cruel, etc (referencing one’s thoughts as such thoughts will eventually lead into forceful/destructive action against others/self if allowed to linger in the mind excessively).

    The «danger» that Terence warns of is the fact that the «mind» can easily become «broached» from «forces that will cause you to behave in such a manner that even your own family would describe that you ‘were like another person’ (the more typical modern-day vocabulary for what some might call spirit-possession)» and this results in a negativity that gets saved/recorded into the history of your Book-of-Life Records.

    How in the world are our deeds recorded ? Everyone should be familir with Earth’s Electro-Magnetic Field by now. Well, humans, too, also have their own such similar fields. Now consider that a Compact-Disc is nothing more than a flat piece of shiny plastic. A two-gram CD can yet still hold/store a LOT of information for replay (entire MOVIES for that matter). Even though it’s nothing more than shiny plastic (crystal to be more accurate/specific). Weighs a TINY amount. Everything you do is also stored into your own «memory» system, and if you forget, then it simply became a part of your sub-conscious (and becomes something like data stored away into parts of your hard-drive [ROM : Read-Only Memory] that might be collecting dust whilst your active memories become like what you have loaded into your RAM [Random-Access Memory]).

    Whilst Terence may be a «simple» man with little «education» for his task, I am not so easily rail-roaded into being regarded as uneducated my dialogues, and I even have plenty of experience in having discussions with a number of atheists/materialists/rationalists/skeptics/etc (and so I am also very highly familiar with all of the «debunking religion» literature that they have written which I will immediately be reminded of any time someone quotes from any «religious» publications). Now I will end my post for today with a simple question :

    Some or perhaps even many «Christians» seem to believe that «God» happens to be what they call : «All-Powerful»

    For any entity to be «All-Powerful» …does that not mean literally «ALL» Powerful ? And by the word ALL Powerful, this would imply that said entity HAS the capability to do such things like DESTROY and DECEIVE, otherwise you cannot by definition call said entity «ALL-Powerful» (because the lack of ability for DESTRUCTION and DECEPTION essentially makes the entity «HALF-Powerful» instead of being capable of absolutely EVERYTHING). The «Ultimate Deceiver of All» happens to be called that for a reason (and its deceptive-capabilities are so great that it can make virtually all of the inhabitants of whole entire universes dismiss all of the handfuls of truth-tellers as being nothing but a bunch of crazy and insane, lunatic, tin-foil hat-wearing, mentally ill and deluded nut-case conspiracy theorists, and its ULTIMATE weapon happens to be that of which is called : MIND-CONTROL).

  7. Vijai Singh says:

    “My dear brother Ali Sina, it is now the time for your ‘further’ spiritual education. I see from your texts on your web site that when invited to debate ‘publicly’ you decline because you ‘fear’ to die, and that you expect that if you ‘front up’ it might be your ‘last supper’ so to speak.” Terence

    Ali is probably afraid you might become an apostate and like him you will have to lock your door. There is nothing courageous or furthering “spiritual education” in being a Muslim where you born and die in blatant stupidity. The courage lies in those like Ali who have the good sense to abandon it as quickly as possible and help others to do so in the safest possible way even if requires on them to lock their doors.
    http://www.vjsingh.info/index.html

  8. Vijai Singh says:

    If Ali and Terrence can take the time to so some serious inquiry into my webpages (http://www.vjsingh.info/index.html) they will know who is really deluded.

  9. Walter Sieruk says:

    To give some Bible based information with authorized Islamic literature also taken into account and yet not to go into detail and that state that this is a theory of Bible prophecy and not a complete prophecy fact. This is what might happen. This awful and terrible conflict in the twenty -first century is part of the war between the Judo- Christian West and the Islamic East. The Mahdi will arise in the Middle East he will appear a wonderful man to many people, in reality he will be wicked man and will be so very deceitful and lying to he will seem, very much, like a good righteous and rightly guided man who will make a short and false “peace” in the Middle East. The Mahdi with have a partner who will be the false “jesus” of Islam. This Islamic ”jesus” will give Christian’s a choice , which is convert to Islam or die by beheading, this is the Koranic way to killing non-Muslims, as in 47:4. Those vicious murders of Christians in the future are predicted in the Bible. As seen in Revelation 20:4. Furthermore in Israel the Mahdi “shall divide the land” Daniel 11:39. [K.J.V.] between the Jews and Muslims and the Mahdi will also by many deceiving lying signs and wonders, will unify Shi ‘ite and Sunni Islam together common goal destroying the State of Israel ,once and for all. The Mahdi will then take the all the military force of Islam with Satanic intention of totally destroying the Jewish State, one and for all. The when the Second Coming of real Jesus will occur .This is at the Battle of Armageddon where the final and complete defeat of the Mahdi, along with false ”jesus,” and his Islamic military forces. After the great Victory there will be then the total destruction of Islam. As found in the Bible in, for example, Ezekiel chapter 37 and 38. Zechariah Chapter 12 and then 14:9-21 well as in Revelation 19:11-21.
    There is an Christian Arab pastor ,Michael Youssef who had written two well researched and informative books about the Islamic messiah called the Mahdi the are END TIMES AND THE SECRET OF THE MAHDI also the book entitled JESUS , JIHAD AND PEACE Furthermore, another Christian author on the topic of the Mahdi and prophecy is other than pastor Youssef is Joel Richardson who wrote THE ISLAMIC ANTICHRIST :THE SHOCKING TRUTH ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE BEAST and the other book entitled THE MIDEAST BEAST : THE SCRIPTURAL CASE FOR THE ISLAMIC ANTICHRIST.

  10. No Pointing says:

    Jesus always calling God, the Father. God is the creator of all living things, therefore He is the Father of all living things. Allah of Islam cannot be the Father, Allah cannot be God. Muhammad copied idol god from pagans and called it Allah. Allah has no spirit and word, Allah cannot talk and not alive. Allah is an idol. Muslims are praying to an idol and worshipping idol , devils and Satan. Muslims bow their head to ground and worship before devils and Satan. This world has many devils and devils like humans to worship them.

  11. Steve says:

    “The authors of these books were fallible humans. These books are not nor claim to be the words of God.” Unfortunately the mythical Jesus says the laws of Moses will stand for all time and “heaven and earth will pass away” before it becomes invalid.

    “We have unearthed evidence that at least parts of the stories attributed to Jesus predate him and are actually taken from the travels of Gilgamesh, the Sumerian and the Canaanite traditions.” In fact did you know no town of Nazareth existed for well over a hundred years after his supposed death? It is highly likely the writer of Matthew had his Godman as being from the newly named “Nazerth” or “village of the poor” as it was named by the “priestly” families who moved to there.

    “With this, Matthew closes his fable of Jesus’s early years. Yet Matthew is misquoting – he would surely know that nowhere in Jewish prophetic literature is there any reference to a Nazarene. What is ‘foretold’ (or at least mentioned several times) in Old Testament scripture is the appearance of a Nazarite. For example:

    “For, lo, thou shalt conceive, and bear a son; and no razor shall come on his head: for the child shall be a Nazarite unto God from the womb: and he shall begin to deliver Israel out of the hand of the Philistines.”

    – Judges 13.5.

    Matthew slyly substitutes one word for another. By replacing Nazarite (‘he who vows to grow long hair and serve god’) with a term which appears to imply ‘resident of’ he is able to fabricate a hometown link for his fictitious hero.

    The writer of Matthew (re-writer of the proto-Matthew stories) heard of ‘priestly’ families moving to a place in Galilee which they had called ‘Nazareth’ – and decided to use the name of the new town for the hometown of his hero.” http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/nazareth.html

    “You should read her books. There is plenty of evidence that the stories of the old and new testaments, attributed to Moses and to Jesus predate them. When I said this to a good Christian friend of mine, he blamed Satan for it. That kind of answer does not satisfy me and I am sure many others. My only conclusion is that the Bible is a mix bag of divine and fairy tale. The challenge is to separate the wheat from chaff.” If you admit there is no historical evidence for the existence of any Jesus then what Jesus are these people seeing if not the mythical Jesus of Nazareth? Or maybe like this Terence they are are suffering from hallucinations brought on by a mental illness, are possessed by demonic beings or are simply delusional?

    “If you can love God with all your soul and heart and love your neighbor, you have found the true religion.” This is not what the Jesus of the bible says. Therefore Christianity and “Jesus” are false – according to this standard. Either 1) “Jesus” didn’t exist, 2) He was a mad man preacher (as portrayed in the New Testament). 3) Was a wise person whose message and (the record of his life) was lost in which case he isn’t important – since there have been many decent and wise people – before and after him – whose life and teachings was recorded and thus provided some use to humanity. So “Jesus” is at best irrelevant and unknowable.

  12. Ali Sina says:

    @Steve,
    There is evidence that not all the Bible is true. This is undeniable and I do not have to show it. This has been done by the critics of Christianity already for centuries. I read the Bible some 18 years ago and it was thanks to these errors that I rejected Christianity. So the Bible is not the standard of truth for me. I found Jesus thanks to the stories of NDE and not to the Bible.

    Now that I have accepted Jesus I can also read the Bible again and find the gems of truth in it as well. However, it is a mistake to accept this book wholesale. If we want to make the world accept Jesus we have to be honest and acknowledge the truth that the Bible is not the word of God. This is my hope and aspiration.

    What is the Bible? It consists of two parts. The old and the new testaments. The OT also consists of two parts: Pentateuch and the books of the prophets. Pentateuch is alleged to be authored by Moses. It clearly is not. The best evidence is the obituary of Moses at the end of this book. The other books consist of stories prayers and some prophecies. The authors of these books were fallible humans. These books are not nor claim to be the words of God.

    The New Testament also consists of two parts. The Gospels of Jesus and the letter of the apostles. At the end there is also the Book of Revelations, which is a book of visions open to interpretation. The letters of apostles, is just that. The apostles were sincere and enlightened believers, but humans and fallible. So we can learn from them but it would be a mistake to take them as the words of God. That would be blasphemy in my opinion. The Gospels of Jesus are the only books that have to be read with more care. These books talk about the story of God coming to Earth. The question is, who wrote these books. They were written by the believers, decades after Jesus was crucified. How accurate is the account of these believers? There is no doubt that they were sincere but did their devotion compel them to adapt the story of Christ to make it acceptable and appealing to the public? We have unearthed evidence that at least parts of the stories attributed to Jesus predate him and are actually taken from the travels of Gilgamesh, the Sumerian and the Canaanite traditions.

    How can we explain this? My friend Acharria (Dorothy Murdock), was so rattled by these findings that she left Christianity and dedicated her life writing books persuading the Christians that Christianity is only fairytale. When I accepted Jesus and tried to show her mistake, she was so upset that basically cut her communication with me saying, “I miss the old Ali.” She was not willing to listen and sadly left the world in this state of denial. But as far as she was concerned she had found the truth and the evidence was overwhelming. So I could not possibly tell her anything that she did not know already.

    You should read her books. There is plenty of evidence that the stories of the old and new testaments, attributed to Moses and to Jesus predate them. When I said this to a good Christian friend of mine, he blamed Satan for it. That kind of answer does not satisfy me and I am sure many others. My only conclusion is that the Bible is a mix bag of divine and fairy tale. The challenge is to separate the wheat from chaff.

    In my opinion the Bible is the testimony of fallible people. My faith in Jesus is based on the testimony of people who died, went to the other world, met Jesus, God and angels and came back reporting what they said. They are also fallible people. The difference is that these people are contemporary. I can talk to them, email them, listen to them on Youtube and radio shows and ask them questions. In other words, your faith in the Bible is no more valid than mine. We both rely on the testimony of others.

    As for me, the Bible did not convince me, but NDE did. So if you are content with the Bible and this book helps you to find God, good for you. There is however, another large portion of humanity, such as myself and Acharia that cannot accept the Bible. We can find Jesus through NDE. I do not call you unchristian because of that nor should you call us that. It really does not matter to God. Howard Storm who was an atheist when had his NDE says he asked Jesus which religion (i.e., Christian denomination) is the right one. Jesus told him the one that brings you close to God. He did not name anyone. Why should we. If you can love God with all your soul and heart and love your neighbor, you have found the true religion. Call yourself whatever you want. Religions are vehicles to come to God. God does not care which vehicle you take. For me only rationality works. I cannot accept God in any other way. This does not make my faith better or worse than yours. We are different people and God wants to reach us all each in the way that best suit us.

  13. Steve says:

    “I do not believe in his virgin birth and I do not believe in his physical resurrection and physical ascension to heaven. There is no place for physical body in heaven. Body is a perishable vehicle we need only to interact in this world. We are all spirits, temporarily occupying this body. We are all children of God. Jesus is our elder brother. He is no different from us. Christianity is rational. If a belief is not rational, if it has to be accepted as dogma, it is not from God.” If you do not believe in his resurrection then you are not a Christian and you also are calling the Jesus of the bible a liar. There is no evidence any Jesus existed and we know all the stories in OT are nonsense and never happened. So according to your own standard your belief has no more basis in reality than this Terence fellow.

    I also will remind you that the Jesus of gospels like this Terence is alleged to have said. 17“Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18“For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19“Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
    20“For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.

    So Jesus upholds the barbaric commandments and laws of the OT – which is where Islam got its religious laws from. Also If Jesus was the God of OT (like he claimed) this means “good god” also commanded rape, genocide, killing of unbelievers, stoning and all the rest of it. “Meek and gentle” Jesus – like this Terence – would also threaten hellfire and curse those who did not believe in him. In fact before Jesus the Jews believed unbelievers simply cease to exist and no afterlife exists for them. Jesus changed all that so after you was raped, robbed and slaughtered at least your pain was over but now thanks to “good God” Jesus you also burn in an eternal lake of fire for eternity as well.

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