Discussion with Terence, the Returned Jesus Christ and Mahdi in One

A few years ago I had a discussion with Terence. Terence believes he is the return of Christ and the Mahdi of Islam. He thinks that Jesus and Muhammad were messengers of Allah and he is the last prophet.  He also believes that Allah is the same God of Jesus.   Here is our old debate.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/debates/prophetterence.htm

Terence recently wrote again and the following is the transcript of our debate. Hope you will find it interesting.

Ali Sina

 

Dear Ali, I have written the below words and inserted them into the ending of my recent letter to assist you.

If you have the inner strength and courage to publicly admit that you have been wrong through your ignorance as to spiritual reality it will assist many to find their way to Salvation and inner peace – the below become page 11 on my web site

http://www.the-testament-of-truth.com/islam/web/ali3.htm

Terence

My dear brother Ali Sina, it is now the time for your ‘further’ spiritual education. I see from your texts on your web site that when invited to debate ‘publicly’ you decline because you ‘fear’ to die, and that you expect that if you ‘front up’ it might be your ‘last supper’ so to speak.

I personally do not have such fears because I do know that IF or when Allah wished for me to be ‘murdered’ that it would be done. My little home in the Tasmanian bush is well known by many and my doors are never locked day or night because, I assume that anyone coming is sent by Allah. Either for me to help them with something or for them to tell me something.

Even if an intended ‘killer’ did come to my door I would welcome them in for a cup of tea, and do my best to educate them to the reality of Allah’s ‘eye for an eye’ Law, and simply ‘suggest’ that it is unwise for them to harm me because even if Allah had sent them, then HE would ensure that they ahead, would be forced to suffer the same fate.

The “As you sow so shall ye reap” Law of spiritual energy is simply what it is: “For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction,” at the time and in the place so ordained by the infinite intelligence of Allah’s energy.”

Ali, only when IN the Light of Paradise are we ‘safe’ because IT is the domain of Allah’s LIGHT, and no person therein is influenced by demons. However, every one of the millions of levels of consciousness outside of said paradise IS A DOMAN OF GOD’S DARK ENERGY.

This invisible ‘mist’ knows EXACTLY where every ‘sinner’ is at every moment of time. What I am stating is, that IF our Allah wishes for you to meet a punitive ‘fate,’ then even your wife or child or best friend could do it if they became ‘angry’ or frustrated and lost control of their THOUGHTS to the demonic forces below.

You need to try and understand that everyone with ‘sin within, (negative emotions) can be reached or mentally ‘broached’ by demons in the underworld because it is the energy ‘vibration’ of one’s inner ‘Sin’ (emotions) that links one’s mind to said dark forces. This process is escalating and more people are becoming suddenly ‘possessed’ mentally and run amok for no apparent reason.

The reasons are given on my web site. It is imperative to fortify ones mind against said telepathic intrusion hence my ‘Feeling easy’ Seminar program.

YouTube – Feeling Easy ‘audio’ Seminar  (1. 41 mins):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lToGXxEldQ&list=PLJumXbobvRWpXAXHTs13EduSkAYGMXHoA&index=2

Please try and UNDERSTAND that when one is deceiving or misleading people that you are ‘sinning,’ (causing harm) and the suffering the other endures ‘ahead,’ through being misled by YOU, becomes a spiritual DUE, a ‘fate’ you are UNABLE TO HALT. Why? Because you do not know what others are thinking when their minds are linked to THE DARK, and IT will incite them JUSTIFIABLY to balance ITS punitive ‘Scales of Justice.’

Ali, the error of every religion is not its CORE teaching. (Love one another and go your way in peace) The error is the endless rituals ‘attached’ by ‘priest’s that are the control and error of teaching. Example; What has going to Mecca and throwing stones into a ‘pit’ symbolising stoning the Devil have to do with Allah’s CORE DIRECTIVE Command unto man? Nothing. Dress ‘codes’ and other ritual are also all NOTHING to do with Salvation or obedience to Allah’s CORE Command.

Man needs to HALT their voting for ‘men’ to be their leader and simply live by their Allah given CONSCIENCE and BOW in obedience to Allah’s CORE Command. “Peace, love, mercy, compassion and forgive your perceived enemy.”

There is NO ‘freedom of religion’ because everyone is controlled by political forces or other DICTATORS who demand that everyone bow to their doctrine of monetary extortion, punish, war etc.

 

Hello Terence,

Last time we discussed I was an atheist. I accepted Jesus three years ago.  So now I write to you as a believer in God.

You claim to be a messenger of Allah.  I have a couple of questions.

1-   How do you know you are a messenger of Allah? Did you hear a voice? Did you have a vision? Will you elaborate on that?

2-   You say Allah has a dark/evil side and a light/good side.  This definition of God is inconsistent with that of Jesus.  The God of Jesus is pure light, in him there is no change or shadow. (James, 1:17)

Some of Allah’s attributes as described in the Quran are as follow:

khairul mâkerin, (the best deceiver) 3:54

al mutakabbir (the proud one, the haughty one) 59:23

al jabbâr (the compeller, the oppressor, the tyrant) 59:23

al qahhâr (the subduer) 13:16, 14:48, 38:65, 39:4, 40:16

al khâfid (the abaser) 95:5

al mudhell (the humiliator) 3:26

al mumit (the death giver) 3:156, 7:158, 15:23, 57:2

al muntaqim (the avenger) 32:22, 43:41, 44:16

al mua’khkhir (the delayer) 71:4 and

ad-dârr (the harmer the afflicter) 6:17.

These are satanic attributes. The God of Jesus is sanctified from them. So when you talk of “Allah’s Dark energy” that can be used “to cause harm or to lead others astray” I am wondering whether you are being controlled by the Devil.

The God I believe is pure love. There is no darkness, no evil and no harm in him.  On the other hand, Allah contains evil in him.

This leaves with two alternatives. You either suffer from mental disorder and hallucinate or you are controlled by demonic forces.  What can you tell me to remove my suspicions about you?

Please understand that threats of hellfire, warnings and admonitions are worthless as arguments. They are called argumentum ad baculum and are logical fallacies.  So if all you can say is threatening me with divine punishment please save your breath. It is not going to work with me. I will ignore them. But is you have logical answers to my questions I would like to hear from you.

Wish you blessings from my Lord

Ali Sina

Dear Ali,

I respond within the lines to assist you:

Ali writes: Last time I wrote to you I was an atheist. I accepted Jesus three years ago.  So now I write to you as a believer in God.

Terence states: It appears that your words “I have accepted Jesus” have some ‘meaning’ to you? Have you accepted him as a prophet of God or what? Does it imply that you are now a ‘Christian’ following the HOLY WORD of Allah/God or simply ‘praising’ the name ‘Jesus’?

Brother, you are simply a deluded soul because a TRUE ‘follower’ of Jesus’ MESSAGE of PEACE and love and mercy, would be obeying THE COMMAND of God who had sent Jesus to earth. You are NOT so doing, therefore you as all others are simply a ‘pretend’ Christian. A true follower of Allah or God does NOT have a web site criticising others or damning the beliefs of others.

Please READ my recent letter copy at the end and TRY and get some understanding from IT because Jesus was a simple man of the flesh albeit his spirit soul was sent to earth by God to impart a message from GOD/ALLAH to mankind.

As for your words < as a believer in God > – Ali, the WORD ‘God’ and the word ‘Allah’ both mean the SAME, but simply in different languages, both imply – – – THE CREATOR, THE ALMIGHTY Sovereign POWER.

I do not need to ‘debate’ HOW I know I am Allah/God’s messenger, I will just ‘report’ that within my FLESH walks the SAME spirit soul that walked in the FLESH of Jesus 2000+ years ago.

Neither do I need to ‘debate’ the meaning of past ‘Christian’ scripture because NONE if IT was written by the ‘hand’ of JESUS but was ‘reported and written’ many years later by mortal men.

It is ONLY NOW that everything necessary for the Salvation of man IS REPORTED AND RECORDED BY MY HAND AND MY PURE SINLESS SOUL. (No negative emotions within)

For many years you have been quoting the Quran scriptures and now it is the ‘English’ Bible. Both have truth and error, and this is why all mankind still defies Allah and FIGHTS instead of forgiving. All past scriptures are OBSOLETE and you need to NOW read THE TESTAMENT OF TRUTH for IT and only IT contains Allah/God’s pure Salvation TRUTH. It is very SIMPLE;

“Bow in total submission to Allah/God’s Command and Love one another and go YOUR way in PEACE

You are still condemning rather than loving and you are disturbing the peace of the DEAD.

IF you take the TIME to read my FRESH REVELATIONS in the articles:

http://www.the-testament-of-truth.com/islam/web/energy.htm
http://www.the-testament-of-truth.com/islam/web/sharia.htm

You will LEARN that there is NOTHING existing that is NOT a ‘part’ of God/Allah and, that Allah simply is the limitless ‘mass’ of spiritual energy that exists, and is comprised of ‘twin’ sides, LIGHT and DARK etc.

So the Quran texts you quote above ARE INDEED THE TRUTH because they all refer to THE DARK ASPECT OF ALLAH/GOD’S energy essence. brother, NOTHING can exist ‘outside’ of Allah’s frame.

You surely understand that many people DO cause harm ref your words < So when you talk of “Allah’s Dark energy” that can be used “to cause harm or to lead others astray,” > THE reality is, that their minds are being controlled by the DARK energy essence that EXISTS. (Allah’s/God’s ENERGY)

Your words < The God of Jesus is sanctified from them. > THE GOD of Jesus is the LIGHT of Allah. the Light of Allah proceeds from the eternal ‘fire’ of the DARK aspect of ALLAH. There is much you will NEVER know brother UNLESS your spirit soul can BE ‘resurrected’ by ME through YOU adhering ‘faithfully’ to THE WISDOM I bring from ALLAH.

Why do you ‘think’ that JESUS advises, warns, tells, commands MAN to ONLY sup on or use Allah/God’s LIGHT benign ENERGY? Because he KNOWS that when using IT, then one is ONLY permitting God’s LIGHT energy to flow through their soul and their inner Light gets brighter, and their ‘karmic’ return within God’s LAW is ‘joyful and benign.’

Jesus and I both knew/KNOW that when we ‘permit’ Allah/God’s DARK destructive energy to flow through our mind and hand and cause harm, that IT the DARK stains ones soul and ‘dims’ ones inner light and regrettably, within THE ONE LAW, ahead, we will suffer the same pain we forced others to endure.

As for your stated belief < The God I believe is pure love. There is no darkness, no evil and no harm in him. > You are entitled to believe what you wish to BUT – unless ahead you can begin to comprehend that GOD IS ALL, and thus HAS all attributes of good and evil within HIS ‘frame,’ then you remain a deluded unwise person.

Ali writes: This leaves with two alternatives. You either suffer from mental disorder and hallucinate or you are controlled by demonic forces.  What can you tell me to remove my suspicions about you?

Terence states: NO Ali, it is not I who is controlled by demons but you, this I state because your ‘belief’ that God is ONLY LOVE leaves you ‘open minded’ to THE POSSIBILITY that the FALSE  ‘Christian’ teachings that ‘Jesus’ forgives you and all for your sinning ways permits you to continue to deceive others and get away with it in your mind. Whereas I state that everyone including ‘Jesus’ or me is subject to the immutable LAW of equal return of Allah/God.

Ali writes: Please understand that threats of hellfire, warnings and admonitions are worthless as arguments. They are called argumentum ad baculum and are logical fallacies.  So if all you can say is threatening me with divine punishment please save your breath. It is not going to work with me. I will ignore them. But if you have logical answers to my questions I would like to hear from you.

Wish you blessings from my Lord.

Terence states: Ali, my ‘warnings’ are NOT ‘arguments’ they are simply statements of FACT, and you are entitled to ignore them. I can but ADD: When both the Islamic and the Christian teachings state: “Bow in submission to THE Command of THE SOURCE or DIE,” it is NOT for YOU or I to reason ‘WHY.’

IF any of your PAST or present or ongoing ACTIONS are in conflict with the Command of Allah/God then ‘trust me,’ YOU WILL PAY THE PRICE so just prepare yourself. Your eternal FATE is within your own mind and hands Ali. Simply in ‘professing’ to have Jesus as your ‘saviour’ is utter nonsense and the deception of SATAN, Allah/God’s DARK ENERGY operating through the minds of arrogant mortals.

Ali, as for your words < threatening me with divine punishment > You may have observed on my signature below that it states ( God’s Judge Terence – – -) I never make threats Ali, I simply make statements of TRUTH, and IF my mind or pen ‘Judges you,’ then that judgement comes straight from ALLAH irrespective of your beliefs to the contrary.

My friend and spiritual brother. You are extremely blest in receiving my DIRECT communication, and you can ignore my words, but it is your future that will unravel ahead, and you will ahead SEE if I was in error or correct.

I now herein state that I am not entering into any debate, so do NOT expect to have any more ‘questions’ answered because I have spent the last 25 years preparing a message to YOU and all, and IF you do not wish to READ IT sent by Allah then that also is your choice. –

Terence

Hi Terence,

I did not accept Jesus as a prophet of God. I accepted him as the son of God.  Son of God not of Allah. I do not believe in Allah. Allah is the Devil.

You seem to be very confused about the origin of the word Allah. Allah is a title not a name. It is like the president, the king, the boss, etc.  It literally means the god (al lah). The Quraysh had a chief god named Hubaal. It was the same god of which the Bible speaks of — Ha Baal.  Ha is the Hebrew definitive article.   Arabs called this god by his title, al lah. The Arab speaking Jews and Christians also called their God by His title “al Lah”. To confuse the two is like confusing the president of the USA with the president of Mexico because both of them are called President.

You insist to call your god Allah, as a proper name. Consequently, you must be referring to the god of Arabs.  Jesus never called God Allah. You say Allah and God are the same in different languages. But you write in English. Why suddenly switch to Arabic when you name God?

Even though, etymologically speaking, Allah means the god, it has come to be understood as the god of Arabs and now of Muhammad. It is now used as a proper name, not a title.

The fact that Allah and the God of Jesus are not the same is evident by their attributes. As I listed in my previous email Allah has many diabolic attributes. The God of Jesus is sanctified of all those evil attributes.

If Allah is real he must be the Devil.  I have read a bit about you and can see you are not enriching yourself with money as Muhammad did and are not involved in raping women, killing people, and other crimes Muhammad committed.  There are many cult leaders who amass wealth and engage in all sorts of lewdness and crimes.  These people are most likely controlled by the Devil. Muhammad was definitely working for the Devil as his despicable life is evidence of that. You don’t seem to belong to this category of charlatans.  So my opinion of you is that you suffer from mental disorder. Your visions that seem so real to you were nothing but hallucination.  you must be suffering from temporal lobe epilepsy.

I consider myself a follower of Jesus and think of my website as my ministry to humanity.  I am helping Muslims and others to see the truth that Allah is not God and Muhammad was an imposter.

It is true that Jesus was a man. But his spirit was from God. Unlike most Christians, I don’t worship Jesus’s flesh, which was no different from ours.  He was made of the same substance that we are made of and he was crucified like the two thieves next to him.  It is his spirit that I worship.  God is spirit and His son is also spirit.  And spirit does not die. So when I say Jesus is the son of God I am not talking of his flesh.  I do not believe in his virgin birth and I do not believe in his physical resurrection and physical ascension to heaven.  There is no place for physical body in heaven. Body is a perishable vehicle we need only to interact in this world.  We are all spirits, temporarily occupying this body. We are all children of God. Jesus is our elder brother. He is no different from us.  Christianity is rational. If a belief is not rational, if it has to be accepted as dogma, it is not from God.

Now dear Terence, as I said before, if you have any evidence that Allah is God and that you are the messenger of God, please present it. You have not done so. All you do is warn, threaten with hell fire and admonish.  With all due respect, these may work with people of less intelligence. But they do not work with educated people.  Educated people want proof. Maybe you don’t know what proof is. Maybe you are not an educated person and hence do not understand the meaning of proof or how an argument should be presented.

I have proven that Allah is not God and I have shown amply that Muhammad was a charlatan, a fiend, a despicable being.  The evidence is presented in my book, which is now available for free download.

You claim to be the return of Jesus. In that case you should have the same wisdom and the same power that you had in your previous incarnation when you were born to Mary in Nazareth.  I see plenty of divine wisdom in the words of Jesus recorded by his disciples. I read also your writings and see no wisdom at all. You sound like a delusional lunatic.  Jesus healed the sick, restored the sight of the blind and resurrected the death.  Can you do any of that? You make outlandish claims but where is the proof?

You claim to be Jesus in a new body. Yet, your teaching betray that claim.  For example, you say nothing exists that is not a part of God.  That is not what Jesus said.  Jesus warned us of the Devil, the prince of this world. You say evil is the other side of God.  In the link you sent you wrote,

The DARK destructive aspect [of God] contains within ITS frame all known and unknown negative emotional energy. (Fear, hatred, criticism, vanity, pride, jealousy and anger’ etc.) Indeed IT has a ‘face’ which is very hard, cruel and formidable, a face that fills half the ‘sky’ of the realms of spirit. It is the face of HE who many call The Father. 

The LIGHT creative aspect of Allah (the energy) contains within ITS frame all known and unknown positive emotional energy. (Love & joy & happiness, peace and fulfillment) Indeed IT has a ‘face’ which is very kindly, beautiful and soft, a face that fills half the ‘sky’ of the realms of spirit. It is the face of SHE who many call The Mother.

Jesus categorically denied such blasphemy.  You have reunited the attributes of God and the attributes of Satan in a hermaphrodite whom you call Allah.

You say God is “simply the limitless mass of spiritual energy consisting of twin sides, light and dark.” Apart from the fact that Jesus said God is pure light, with no shadow in Him, he described God as a person. You say “The REAL Allah is the invisible mass of intelligent ENERGY which exists like an invisible mist which has NO ‘bounds.”  Obviously we are talking of different gods.  Ironically your Allah is not even the god of Muhammad whose Allah was also a personal god.

Mass of energy is what runs our computers, cars and lights our cities. Energy has no intelligence. God is an intelligent being. He is a personal God with the same attributes we have. We are made in His image.

You wrote, “Jesus and I both knew/KNOW that when we …”

First you said the same spirit of Jesus is now occupying your flesh, which implies that you are the return of Jesus. Now you speak of yourself and Jesus as two separate persons.  Liars have short memory.  Be consistent.

You wrote, “my ‘warnings’ are NOT ‘arguments’ they are simply statements of FACT”

Only a fool would believe with no evidence. There are countless charlatans who deceive people with bogus claims that they are messengers of God.  Jesus warned us against false prophets.  You have no proof and no argument and all you can do is make outlandish claims and expect people to believe you?  What to you seems as fact to me is nothing but hallucinations of a mentally disturbed man. The reason Muhammad succeeded with bogus claims and with no proof was because he used the sword, raided, looted and massacred those who did not believe him.  You can’t do such things in this day and age.

I pray that God may help you recover from your insanity and rescue your soul from Hell.

Ali Sina

 

Dear Ali,

I awake at 6.30 am thinking ‘how’ can I help Ali’? Ali is stating to me: “prove who you are before I follow your shining star” and Ali believes that ALLAH is the FALSE (god) because of the Quran texts below < khairul mâkerin, (the best deceiver)  3:54, – al mutakabbir (the proud one, the haughty one) 59:23 , – al jabbâr (the compeller, the oppressor, the tyrant) 59:23,> etc.

Ali also has now been taught (I presume) that the supposed ‘Jesus or Christian God’ is only LIGHT.

Ali, I am not a bible student and I have never read the Bible nor the Quran and I was brought up on the coast of an African village with Islamic lads because the dhows from Saudi always traded down to Tanzania with the trade winds each year. I left school aged 15.

To try and assist you to SEE that the God of Islam (Allah) and the God of Christians and Jesus (God) IS ONE AND THE SAME, both having the LIGHT and the DARK aspects.

To assist both of us I today relied on GOOOGLE ! To find out ‘what’ the King James (Christian) bible states in reference to the NATURE of the Christian God. If you care to read the below I feel it might assist YOU to come to your OWN personally informed decision.

ALI – this is not the beginning of any fresh debate – it is simply an addendum to my prior LAST email to HELP YOU.

ALI – you KNOW that BOTH good and evil EXIST so Ali, I can add is that: THE CRITERIA is not so much “What God/Allah is or is not” but it is solely a matter of “What the interaction with others by ALI is, is IT good or evil, is IT loving or condemnation, is IT peaceful or not. Is IT merciful or unforgiving” etc –

I state this Ali because – IF THERE IS A DIVINE LAW (Absolute Justice) then we WILL receive exactly what we put OUT.

It looks to me from the below that THE Allah of the Quran and THE God of the Bible have EXACTLY THE SAME ‘credentials’ being that they BOTH encompass EVERYTHING. (Light and dark)

I wish you well Ali, I suggest you read my “The visions of the last prophet”

http://www.the-testament-of-truth.com/truth/web/visions1.htm

Sincerely – Terence

Hello Terence,

From your writing I already knew that you have limited education.  Now you also reveal that you have not read the Bible and the Quran.  You believe in these books like everyone else without proper knowledge.  The Bible is a book written by people inspired by God.  It contains many gems of wisdom but it should not be taken literally.  It also contains many errors.  I accept that this book is not the verbatim word of God and hence when I come across its errors I can brush them aside and ignore them.  Despite its errors the Bible contains Divine guidance.  We can’t say the same about the Quran that claims to be the exact unaltered word of God.  Apart from the fact that the Quran contains no spiritual insight it also contains too many errors and asininities that makes it obvious it is written by an unlettered and unenlightened man much like your own good self.

Had you read the Quran you would know about Muhammad’s claim to be the last prophet of Allah. So if he was a true prophet you cannot be. Since I have proven that he was not, it follows that both of you are false prophets.

The assertion that God is infinite should be understood properly or it can lead into absurd claims such as God must also contain a dark side.  Since evil exists and since God encompasses everything it follows that evil must be a part of God.  This argument derives from lack of understanding of the meaning of infinite.   When we say God is infinite we mean he is not bound by time or space.  Space and time are faculties of matter.  They come to exist only when matter is formed.  Matter is only one dimension of reality.  Electrons and other subatomic particles, although a form of matter are not subject to the same physical laws.  The atomic world, the world that we can see and touch and measure and put it in test tube is subject to Newtonian laws.  The subatomic world is subject to an entirely different set of laws known as quantum physics. Likewise, the spiritual world, which is also a form of matter has its own laws, very different from the laws governing the material world.

In the spiritual world, like in the subatomic universe, time becomes eternity and space infinity.  When we say God is eternal and infinite it means God is not made of matter and hence is not subject to time and space.   This quality is not reserved to God alone. We are all spiritual beings and we are all infinite and eternal.  There is no quality in God that does not exist in us.   We are his children, his clones, his facsimile and fractals.  The only difference is in size.

The infinity of God does not preclude that He has also a dark side and evil is also part of Him.  This duality exists outside God not in Him.  A poor analogy is to compare God with the sun.  There is no coldness or darkness inside the sun.  Other objects are bright or dark depending on whether they face the sun or face away from it.  And they are warm and cold depending on their distance from it. Likewise, all beings are good or evil to the extent that they are closer to God or away from Him.

Unlike darkness and coldness evil has a source.  The source of evil is not God.  By making that assertion you are committing blasphemy.  I don’t think God punishes people for their ignorance. However, there is no excuse to perpetuate ignorance.  God does not have an evil side just as the sun does not have a dark side.  The world outside the sun is the world of light and shadows.  Just as there is no shadow inside the sun there is no shadow in God.  Anyone who says otherwise is spiritually blind.  This was what Muhammad said and now you rehash.   This alone is enough to discredit both of you as messengers of God.

Had you read the Bible you would have come across verses such as “there is no wickedness in God (Psalm 92:15); “God is light; in him there is no darkness at all.” (1 John 5:1); “God is not the author of confusion” (1 Corinthians 14:33). Your claim that the dark destructive aspect of God contains within its frame all known and unknown negative emotional energies, such as fear, hatred, criticism, vanity, pride, jealousy and anger’ etc. is sheer nonsense and blasphemy. Duality exists only in the world outside God, just as light and shadow exists only outside the sun.

John Calvin explains this concept clearly. He wrote: “. . . the Lord had declared that “everything that he had made . . . was exceedingly good” [Genesis 1:31]. Whence, then comes this wickedness to man, that he should fall away from his God? Lest we should think it comes from creation, God had put His stamp of approval on what had come forth from himself. By his own evil intention, then, man corrupted the pure nature he had received from the Lord; and by his fall drew all his posterity with him into destruction. Accordingly, we should contemplate the evident cause of condemnation in the corrupt nature of humanity-which is closer to us-rather than seek a hidden and utterly incomprehensible cause in God’s predestination.” [Institutes, 3:23:8]

There is a passage in the Old Testament that says “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things” (Isaiah 45:7). This passage seems to imply that God creates evil.  In that case it would be in contradiction with the other passages. So my verdict is that this passage is either an error of the author, or it is conveyed poorly or should be interpreted differently.  As I said above, the Bible is written by fallible humans and we should not take it literally. Commonsense must always be our guide, even, or rather specially when reading the Bible.

 I am an imperfect human with limited understanding. But I am a sincere seeker. To find the truth I use the tools that God has given to most of us, i.e., intelligence and commonsense. You call me arrogant for not bowing in front of you whereas your pretense to be a prophet of God with unlimited knowledge has blinded you to truth to the extent that you commit blasphemy and attribute evil to the Lord.

Dear Ali,

We ‘men’ are ALL ‘sons of God/Allah.’

If you truly believe that your condemnation of others and your statement that you are above the law that is ON YOUR WEB SITE is a ‘service’ to Jesus or your ‘belief’ in some divine force named Allah or God then you are being DECEIVED by your OWN mind by demonic thought intrusion.

It follows that since you ARE still deceiving your readers of your web site that within the LAW of God or Allah, you will BE deceived because that IS THE SHARIA LAW OF GOD AND ALLAH.

IF you truly wish to assist Muslims or ANYONE then simply tell them:

“Lay down your weapons and OBEY THE COMMAND AND GO YOUR WAY IN PEACE AND LOVE ONE ANOTHER.”

My conversation with you now ENDS with this email Ali as there is nothing more to say to you – I have given you THE TRUTH within the above words.

What you ‘think’ of me is irrelevant because it is our God/Allah to BE the final judge as you ‘son’ are soon to see.

– Terence

Hi Terence,

I am not son of Allah. I regard Allah as the Devil.  Furthermore, you say your Allah is a mist, a dark energy.  How can a mist or energy have a child?  God is spirit and we are spirits. We are begotten from God. But mist and energy don’t give birth to spiritual intelligent beings.

You are even promoting the Sharia law.   Here is what Sharia says.

  • Jihad, defined as “to war against non-Muslims to establish the religion,” is the duty of every Muslim and Muslim head of state (caliph). Muslim caliphs who refuse jihad are in violation of Shariah and unfit to rule.
  • A caliph can hold office through seizure of power, meaning through force.
  • A caliph is exempt from being charged with serious crimes such as murder, adultery, robbery, theft, drinking and in some cases of rape.
  • A percentage of Zakat (charity money) must go toward jihad.
  • It is obligatory to obey the commands of the Caliph, even if he is unjust.
  • A caliph must be a Muslim, a non-slave and a male.
  • The Muslim public must remove the caliph if he rejects Islam.
  • A Muslim who leaves Islam must be killed immediately.
  • A Muslim will be forgiven for murder of: 1) an apostate, 2) an adulterer, and 3) a highway robber – making vigilante street justice and honor killing acceptable.
  • A Muslim will not get the death penalty if he kills a non-Muslim but will get it for killing a Muslim.
  • Shariah never abolished slavery or sexual slavery and highly regulates it. A master will not be punished for killing his slave.
  • Shariah dictates death by stoning, beheading, amputation of limbs, flogging – even for crimes of sin such as adultery.
  • Often, after a woman has been raped, she is returned to her family and the family must return the dowry. The family has the right to execute her (an honor killing) to restore the honor of the family. Husbands can beat their wives ‘at will’ and he does not have to say why he has beaten her.
  • The husband is permitted to have (4 wives) and a temporary wife for an hour (prostitute) at his discretion.
  • The Sharia Muslim law controls the private as well as the public life of a woman.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2010/08/196041/#D3pkiAebmhMedZL4.99

Ali Sina

Ali Sina is the author of Understanding Muhammad and Muslims.

13 Responses

  1. Lizzie says:

    A lot of people who have Bi-Polar disorder think they are Jesus or Mohammed or Napoleon etc.
    Its amazing this Terrence thinks he’s a double cult figure. I’m just awaiting the miracles,-walking on water and statements of fact instead of ‘I believe’
    If the man is poorly one can sympathise with his blasphemy but if not one can only suspect venal motives.

  2. Ron says:

    See this is where Christ makes a difference
    http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/christian-father-beheaded-isis-teach-my-children-principles-jesus-Christ

    Among the 21 Coptic Christian workers beheaded on a beach in Libya last year by ISIS was a father who, before he went to Libya as a migrant worker, told his wife he knew it was dangerous and that if he did not make it back alive, to please teach their children “the principles of Jesus Christ.” So testified lawyer and humanitarian Jacqueline Isaac, who met in Egypt with the families of 15 of the 21 victims and told Congress about the genocide being perpetrated by the Islamic State.

    Jacqueline Isaac, vice president of the humanitarian group Roads of Success, spoke at a May 13, 2015 hearing on ISIS and religious minorities held by the House Foreign Affairs Committee. Despite the horrific stories and documentation she presented to the committee along with other witnesses, none of the major news broadcast outlets covered the hearing — not ABC, CBS, or NBC.
    Commenting on the genocidal actions of the Islamic State, which are producing many orphans, Rep. Chris Smith (R-N.J.) asked Isaac, “If I could ask you, where is the faith of these young people?”

    Isaac said, “Congressman Smith, I went to Egypt and I met the families, 15 of the 21 families that had victims that were slaughtered in Libya. I was astonished by their faith.”

    “As a fellow Christian, I thought, how would I be if I were in this situation today?” she said. “Meeting the fathers that said to me, ‘Thank God that today [my sons] they are in Heaven. Thank God.’”

    “A wife, talking to me about how her husband had said, ‘I am going to Libya and I will be in danger. But if I don’t make it, teach my children, teach them the principles of Jesus Christ.'” recounted Isaac.

    “That is the story,” she said. “These are the accounts of their faith. And I’ve seen it in Iraq across the board how Christians are standing strong and helping all, [and] helping the Yazidis.”

    “In fact, we had a case,” said Isaac. “I remember there was a group of Yazidis that found a local [Christian] church and the church was providing care for them, providing a home for them. This is what they’re doing. They’re struggling but they’re giving everything they have. So, thank you.”

    U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry declared on March 18 of this year, “My purpose here today is to assert in my judgment, (ISIS) is responsible for genocide against groups in areas under its control including Yazidis, Christians and Shiite Muslims.”

    Also, the British House of Commons voted unanimously on April 20 to declare the actions by ISIS/Daesh as genocide, despite the opposition of then Prime Minister David Cameron and his Conservative Party administration.

  3. Steve says:

    “They are NOT set-in-stone future-predictions of what WILL happen. They ARE “possibilities” that are “perceived” for what CAN “likely” happen (but as future is NOT pre-deterministic the “hunches” are NOT always guaranteed to happen).” Which means so called prophecies are just guesses based on the current information. And if the “prophecy” fails then you can always fall back on “but the future is not set in stone”. Which is very convenient for these prophets of a God who has perfect knowledge of all future events?

    “The term that should be used instead is mental/emotional disturbance, subjugation of the mind/emotions, etc.” That is the same as “mental illness”. A person who is mentally ill their mind is not functioning properly. Religious beliefs and delusions are indistinguishable from what we call mental illness or “insanity”.

    “I think you are not very well familiar with Remote-Viewing. Information cannot be destroyed (because energy cannot be destroyed). ” Right random guy on the Internet who believes in remote viewing, “prophecies” and Terence the returned Mahdi/Christ knows more about information physics than a theoretical physicist (which is where my info comes from).

    “The energy is only converted. The claim that all information is always preserved has been even stated by Remote-Viewers.” So what was on Hilary’s 33 thousand deleted emails she hide from the FBI? Also while you are there what is next weeks lottery numbers then? Terence could do with the money – and since you claim this information already exists and can be accessed it should be no problem. Information is a structure of matter when that structure is destroyed the information about that thing and what state it was in is also gone. This is the reality.

    “Satanic God” will go into forcing EXTORTION upon an elderly man, such that they would even go so far as to have him jailed for over eight years for the purposes of trying to FORCE him to pay money to YOUR “Satanic” God (the currency called money and the institution called government).” No government is forcing your guru to stay in their country he can leave whether he wants to. He is benefiting from the “satanic government” its infrastructure and using its resources so he has to pay if you don’t want to then leave the country. The bible says (which this Terence says he believes in) thieves should be stoned to death and the Koran says (which again you say you believe in) the hand of the thief should be cut, so according to your own standard the governments would be justified in killing you. Hopefully Ali Sina and others don’t waste their time giving you nutters a platform to preach this garbage.

    “(and don’t tell me that money or government is not your God because if you pay taxes or vote or fund or support in ANY way any activities that PUNISH people for the most asinine or trivial of matters then your REAL God IS the Satanic Government even if you SAY that some Religion-Defined God is your God).” 99.9% of the time “the satanic government” (whose country you choose to live in) will be civil with you by simply giving you a fine. The society does not initiate aggression and force but only responds to it.

    “You DO know what an Oxy-Moron is do you not ?” The very idea of “omnipotence” is nonsense and incoherent so all this talk about Good aspect and bad aspect is just waffle. How can a being be both evil and good at the same time? This being you believe in must be like Dr Jekyllr and Mr Hyde.

  4. Aeius C Cercle says:

    @Steve 「The existence of indeterminsm proves this and proves that “prophets” and their “prophecies” are nonsense.」I don’t think you were paying attention to my description/definition of prophecies. They are NOT set-in-stone future-predictions of what WILL happen. They ARE “possibilities” that are “perceived” for what CAN “likely” happen (but as future is NOT pre-deterministic the “hunches” are NOT always guaranteed to happen). Some things happen in cycles, and in that sense, you can “predict” with reliable accuracy when a particular cycle will repeat (e.g. moon-phases). Animals can also be predicted to behave in certain ways if the cycles of nature are observed for long enough. When it comes to humans, the cycles often run in three to four generations at a time, and then there are also cycles that run in the various nations/societies/civilisations throughout history, for which a “prediction/prophecy” then becomes less “precise” when a cycle will repeat.

    「Yes this is called mental illness. People brainwashed by cults also display similar behaviours.」I am only here to try and «clarify» what Terence is trying to communicate. I understand that he is a «simple» man without advanced levels of vocabulary but there are plenty of well-documented research-papers that confirm that absolute vast majority of what he has written to have validity (some of which include the works of Dr. Carl Wickland, the book by Ian Currie “You Cannot Die: The Incredible Findings of a Century of Research on Death”, the 12000 page archives of the Cross-Correspondences of Frederick Myers and his research-team, etc).

    The term «mental illness» also happens to be extremely derogatory and virtually everybody working in governing institutions meets the criteria for having a so-called mental-illness (i.e.: expressions of insanity in the sense of displaying aggression/negative-emotions even to the point of acting violently upon others for the most asinine of reasons). The term that should be used instead is mental/emotional disturbance, subjugation of the mind/emotions, etc.

    「What gets created is in part our responsibility. We can choose to help create and preserve information. Or we can choose to destroy it. ”」I think you are not very well familiar with Remote-Viewing. Information cannot be destroyed (because energy cannot be destroyed). The energy is only converted. The claim that all information is always preserved has been even stated by Remote-Viewers.

    「Then show that your God is not lying and is not satan show that this Terence is not lying and all the called prophets and religions are not lies – since your God can lie, destroy and deceive.」I do not have to prove anything as I only came here to CLARIFY his meaning and will only quote a «Scripture» verse that God Uses the Foolish Things of the World to Shame Those Who Think That They Are Wise Men. I came here, with FULL memories of my pre-universe experiences still intact, and trying to talk to you people in this universe is like talking to a bunch of goldfish in a fishbowl who insists that nothing could possibly exist outside of their fishbowl. What I WILL tell you is that Terence has my FULL respect, because he used himself as an example of how far YOUR “Satanic God” will go into forcing EXTORTION upon an elderly man, such that they would even go so far as to have him jailed for over eight years for the purposes of trying to FORCE him to pay money to YOUR “Satanic” God (the currency called money and the institution called government).

    You see, Terence KNEW that he could have EASILY paid a 15$AU to be left alone by the police, but «allowed» himself to be used as a public “example” for purposes of trying to SHOW the rest of us how “Satanic/Extortionist/Despotic” the worldly systems have become to the point that humanity would choose to jail an old man for over 8 years all over a TRIVIAL/petty amount of 15$AU. Even a mere 20 cents charge on a Parking Meter seems to invoke YOUR «SATANIC» God into having the «perceived offender» dragged into courts and/or jailed for years and years on end (and don’t tell me that money or government is not your God because if you pay taxes or vote or fund or support in ANY way any activities that PUNISH people for the most asinine or trivial of matters then your REAL God IS the Satanic Government even if you SAY that some Religion-Defined God is your God).

    Terence actually ENDURED the «torture» and extortionists attempts that YOUR Satanic Government God subjected him to and did so WILLINGLY so as to NOT be complicit to funding the wages of Domestic-Terrorist Mercenaries. For THAT reason I CANNOT help BUT to have a HUGE amount of RESPECT for this man. You should read all of his letters from prison that are archived on his web-site (I am quite certain that you have not). I have also already in my earlier/previous post described God in context of the writings of Terence. The reference that you CANNOT have BOTH «ALL Powerful» and «ALL/ONLY Love» was a reference to LOGIC (because by DEFINITION, ALL Powerful means the ALL, the EVERYTHING, instead of meaning Capable of Love but not Destruction, instead of meaning Capable of Hate but not Creativity). God is described as ALL, a DUAL-Energy System, containing BOTH the SOURCE of ALL Destruction as WELL as Creativity.

    Did I not describe it clearly enough before? Let me use the bible (Buy-Bull for any Atheist readers) for example. A lot of self-professing Christians say that the bible was written by God. The Buy-Bull also contains a lot of proven-to-be-false or otherwise extremely despotic/satanic/wicked megalomaniacal writings (see the writings of Jehovah Unmasked by Nathaniel Merritt). I COULD say that yes, sure the bible was written/inspired by God, but the DIFFERENCE is as to whether or not it came from the LIGHT/Creative ASPECT of God or from the DARK/Destructive ASPECT. I am only CLARIFYING the DEFINITION of God for purposes of helping readers to gain a better understanding of what Terence is trying to communicate (because I know that he is but a simple man without anywhere near the sophisticated level of vocabulary that I possess).

    Let me try one more time…: ANY thought/deed/activity/system/etc., that is Benign, Loving, Caring, Benevolent, Forgiving, Merciful, Generous, Creative, Joyful, Kind, Respectful, Considerate, Honest, Patient, Positive, Freedom-Permitting, Cooperative, etc., ALL of these come from and originate from the LIGHT Aspect of the Source/God, the Light Sovereign Power.

    Contrasted…: ANY thought/deed/activity/system/etc., that is Malignant, Hateful, Callous, Uncaring, Malevolent, Unforgiving, Destructive, Merciless, Greedy, Manipulative, Angry, Unkind, Disrespectful, Inconsiderate, Dishonest, Impatient, Negative, Totalitarian, Dictatorial, Despotic, Uncooperative, Taxing, Invasive, Intrusive, Controlling, etc., then ALL of THOSE come from and originate from the DARK Aspect of the Source/God, the Dark Sovereign Power.

    Logically, you CANNOT put «ONLY Love» AND «ALL Powerful» into the SAME being/concept/entity. Why? It’s essentially an OXYMORON. The POINT I was making is that IF God was going to be DEFINED as a «ONLY Love» idea/concept/entity/being then it CANNOT also include «ALL Powerful» and vice-versa. You DO know what an Oxy-Moron is do you not ? Anyway, that is about all I can respond with at this time to try and clarify what Terence has been trying to say, but that he lacks the fluency in the English language to be able to translate the different nuances/idioms into dialects that can be more easily understood. I am only here to translate/clarify rather than debate/argue as I know that the development of our understanding of things is a PERSONAL responsibility. I had to humble myself and swallow my disbelief for a full year and a half before I finally compared what Scholars had concluded about the Dead Sea Scrolls, considering the writings of Daniel Rosenblit in his Living Martyrs Ministries account of his NDE/JDE, the replies that I had received from Terence from the beginning that I found astounding, before I could no longer deny that Terence seemed to be the genuine deal, unlike all of those other so-called self-proclaimed Messiahs throughout history, and namely because his DEFINITION of God actually makes the MOST sense for my full of various forests paradigm (yes, full of forests, not just trees even if one of those forests is full of the trees of philosophies).

  5. Steve says:

    @Aéius Cercle
    “What I will state is that the future is not pre-deterministic and, regarding the concerns of Terence, his warnings can be summed up by describing how this world/universe/existence is full of traps that result in self-destructive mind-control.” In that case then fortune telling is nonsense. The future is not written and nobody knows it and anybody that claims to is a liar. The existence of indeterminsm proves this and proves that “prophets” and their “prophecies” are nonsense. http://www.informationphilosopher.com/freedom/laplaces_demon.html

    http://www.informationphilosopher.com/knowledge/information.html

    http://www.informationphilosopher.com/introduction/physics/#reversibility

    “In information philosophy, the future is unpredictable for two basic reasons. First, quantum mechanics shows that some events are not predictable. The world is causal but not determined. Second, the early universe does not contain the information of later times, just as early primates do not contain the information structures for intelligence and verbal communication, and infants do not contain the knowledge and remembered experience they will have as adults.
    In the naive world of Laplace’s demon and strict determinism, all the information in the universe is constant at all times, perhaps consistent with an omniscient God.
    Creative cosmic processes suggest another image of God.
    Two principles of information philosophy and a corollary
    The Principle of Increasing Information. In our open and expanding universe, the maximum possible entropy is increasing faster than the actual entropy. The difference between maximum possible entropy and the current entropy is called negative entropy.
    Ergodic processes have room to increase the information structures in the universe. As pointed out by David Layzer, the Arrow of Time points not only to increasing disorder but also to increasing information.
    The universe is its own observer.

    The Principle of “Soft” Causality. Events are always caused but not always determined. An event is caused by prior and proximate events (technically those within its relativistic light cone from the past), but not every event is predictable. Indeed, as logical philosophers would put it, determinism is not true. The determinism we have is merely “adequate determinism”.
    Soft causality does not entail strict determinism.
    The Corollary. The universe is creative. Information structures and processes are emergent. Deterministic phenomena are emergent. Some laws of nature are emergent. Knowledge of the present did not all exist in the past. The creative process continues. Life and humanity are a part of the process. What gets created is in part our responsibility. We can choose to help create and preserve information. Or we can choose to destroy it. ”

    “The «danger» that Terence warns of is the fact that the «mind» can easily become «broached» from «forces that will cause you to behave in such a manner that even your own family would describe that you ‘were like another person’ (the more typical modern-day vocabulary for what some might call spirit-possession)» and this results in a negativity that gets saved/recorded into the history of your Book-of-Life Records.” Yes this is called mental illness. People brainwashed by cults also display similar behaviours.

    “How in the world are our deeds recorded ? Everyone should be familir with Earth’s Electro-Magnetic Field by now. Well, humans, too, also have their own such similar fields. Now consider that a Compact-Disc is nothing more than a flat piece of shiny plastic. A two-gram CD can yet still hold/store a LOT of information for replay (entire MOVIES for that matter). Even though it’s nothing more than shiny plastic (crystal to be more accurate/specific). Weighs a TINY amount. Everything you do is also stored into your own «memory» system, and if you forget, then it simply became a part of your sub-conscious (and becomes something like data stored away into parts of your hard-drive [ROM : Read-Only Memory] that might be collecting dust whilst your active memories become like what you have loaded into your RAM [Random-Access Memory]).” Unfortunately not as entropy in the universe increases information is destroyed. Think of a perfume in its container. You know where the perform is but if you release the perfume into the air that information state (about where the perfume molecules are) is lost. Thus information is lost and so it is for human beings also when we die. Information is also lost when its physical container or substrate is destroyed. Information is essential a structure of matter. When that structure is gone so is the information. Likewise when our brain dies so does our information.

    “For any entity to be «All-Powerful» …does that not mean literally «ALL» Powerful ? And by the word ALL Powerful, this would imply that said entity HAS the capability to do such things like DESTROY and DECEIVE, otherwise you cannot by definition call said entity «ALL-Powerful» (because the lack of ability for DESTRUCTION and DECEPTION essentially makes the entity «HALF-Powerful» instead of being capable of absolutely EVERYTHING). The «Ultimate Deceiver of All» happens to be called that for a reason (and its deceptive-capabilities are so great that it can make virtually all of the inhabitants of whole entire universes dismiss all of the handfuls of truth-tellers as being nothing but a bunch of crazy and insane, lunatic, tin-foil hat-wearing, mentally ill and deluded nut-case conspiracy theorists, and its ULTIMATE weapon happens to be that of which is called : MIND-CONTROL).” Then show that your God is not lying and is not satan show that this Terence is not lying and all the called prophets and religions are not lies – since your God can lie, destroy and deceive.

  6. Aéius Cercle says:

    I see that this is a somewhat recent article (2016CE10m09d).

    I am familiar with Terence, have read the vast majority of his writings, but find that the vast majority of the world will continue to misunderstand him. I will now be joining into this conversation, but as my time is limited, all I can try to do is to translate the messages of Terence into more «objective» vocabulary.

    The whole entire point of the «warnings» that Terence brings is not without substance. I am not going to cite «God» nor any writings that were touched by mortals (whether bible or qu’ran or otherwise). What I will state is that the future is not pre-deterministic and, regarding the concerns of Terence, his warnings can be summed up by describing how this world/universe/existence is full of traps that result in self-destructive mind-control.

    Some versions of mind-altering and/or mood-changing phenomena are obvious, such as the influence of drugs or the intoxication of alcohol, but problem-causing thought-interference phenomena is not limited to the consumption of drugs and alcohol. Changes of behaviour become extremely obvious in people who are subjected to withdrawal symptoms, such as from a drug, and it is not uncommon for people to describe the changes that said individual «was like another person» (this was called «spirit-possession» back in times of old). Statements like «the ‘normal’ them would never act that way» are not uncommon from family members.

    Alright, this covers the more «obvious» versions of mind-control, but now we need to see that mind-altering/mood-changing phenomenon extends beyond the influence of drugs or contamination of alcohol. Remember, back in the day, when whales were reported all over the news to be beaching themselves ? That was a result of U.S. Naval Sonar-Testing (weaponry). Frequencies. Sonar-Frequencies. The frequencies caused the whales to behave in such a manner as to beach themselves (marine-biologists also discovered that the whales often had severe damage to their internal auditory organs).

    This is important to understand, because these frequencies have been in high-activity over the last couple of years and are scheduled to continue for the next few, and that WILL result in a HUGE reduction in the world’s food-supply (this is evidence of one of the prophecies given by Terence, that food will become SCARCE, and is already the case in Venezuela). Similarly, devices exist that can control the minds of humans, too. They are known as psychotronics or psychotronic-weaponry. I believe that these devices, that are now clandestinely scattered all over the earth in strategic corporate/military locations, will be the «trigger» for what some denominations/divisions of «Christianity» may call : «Armageddon of the MIND»

    I can also go over much more many examples of different other types of mind-control phenomena but, for now, were I to help clarify the messages of Terence it would basically be like this…:

    Following the Straight and Narrow Path That Leadeth Into The Pearly Gates of Heaven :
    Your thoughts/actions are/must always (be) kind, forgiving, merciful, benevolent, generous, creative, benign, caring, loving, honest, truthful, factual, educative, rehabilative, peaceful, patient, fearless, positive, etc., regardless of whatever happens to you (referencing one’s interactions with others).

    The WIDE Road That Leadeth to HELL :
    The thoughts/actions always find some «justification» that results in any individual seeking revenge, being merciless, taxing, invading, controlling, vengeful, wrathful, malignant, malevolent, destructive, dishonest, greedy, forceful, manipulative, dishonest, deceitful, parasitical, punitive, violent, thieving, stealing, fearful, scheming, callous, cruel, etc (referencing one’s thoughts as such thoughts will eventually lead into forceful/destructive action against others/self if allowed to linger in the mind excessively).

    The «danger» that Terence warns of is the fact that the «mind» can easily become «broached» from «forces that will cause you to behave in such a manner that even your own family would describe that you ‘were like another person’ (the more typical modern-day vocabulary for what some might call spirit-possession)» and this results in a negativity that gets saved/recorded into the history of your Book-of-Life Records.

    How in the world are our deeds recorded ? Everyone should be familir with Earth’s Electro-Magnetic Field by now. Well, humans, too, also have their own such similar fields. Now consider that a Compact-Disc is nothing more than a flat piece of shiny plastic. A two-gram CD can yet still hold/store a LOT of information for replay (entire MOVIES for that matter). Even though it’s nothing more than shiny plastic (crystal to be more accurate/specific). Weighs a TINY amount. Everything you do is also stored into your own «memory» system, and if you forget, then it simply became a part of your sub-conscious (and becomes something like data stored away into parts of your hard-drive [ROM : Read-Only Memory] that might be collecting dust whilst your active memories become like what you have loaded into your RAM [Random-Access Memory]).

    Whilst Terence may be a «simple» man with little «education» for his task, I am not so easily rail-roaded into being regarded as uneducated my dialogues, and I even have plenty of experience in having discussions with a number of atheists/materialists/rationalists/skeptics/etc (and so I am also very highly familiar with all of the «debunking religion» literature that they have written which I will immediately be reminded of any time someone quotes from any «religious» publications). Now I will end my post for today with a simple question :

    Some or perhaps even many «Christians» seem to believe that «God» happens to be what they call : «All-Powerful»

    For any entity to be «All-Powerful» …does that not mean literally «ALL» Powerful ? And by the word ALL Powerful, this would imply that said entity HAS the capability to do such things like DESTROY and DECEIVE, otherwise you cannot by definition call said entity «ALL-Powerful» (because the lack of ability for DESTRUCTION and DECEPTION essentially makes the entity «HALF-Powerful» instead of being capable of absolutely EVERYTHING). The «Ultimate Deceiver of All» happens to be called that for a reason (and its deceptive-capabilities are so great that it can make virtually all of the inhabitants of whole entire universes dismiss all of the handfuls of truth-tellers as being nothing but a bunch of crazy and insane, lunatic, tin-foil hat-wearing, mentally ill and deluded nut-case conspiracy theorists, and its ULTIMATE weapon happens to be that of which is called : MIND-CONTROL).

  7. Vijai Singh says:

    “My dear brother Ali Sina, it is now the time for your ‘further’ spiritual education. I see from your texts on your web site that when invited to debate ‘publicly’ you decline because you ‘fear’ to die, and that you expect that if you ‘front up’ it might be your ‘last supper’ so to speak.” Terence

    Ali is probably afraid you might become an apostate and like him you will have to lock your door. There is nothing courageous or furthering “spiritual education” in being a Muslim where you born and die in blatant stupidity. The courage lies in those like Ali who have the good sense to abandon it as quickly as possible and help others to do so in the safest possible way even if requires on them to lock their doors.
    http://www.vjsingh.info/index.html

  8. Vijai Singh says:

    If Ali and Terrence can take the time to so some serious inquiry into my webpages (http://www.vjsingh.info/index.html) they will know who is really deluded.

  9. Walter Sieruk says:

    To give some Bible based information with authorized Islamic literature also taken into account and yet not to go into detail and that state that this is a theory of Bible prophecy and not a complete prophecy fact. This is what might happen. This awful and terrible conflict in the twenty -first century is part of the war between the Judo- Christian West and the Islamic East. The Mahdi will arise in the Middle East he will appear a wonderful man to many people, in reality he will be wicked man and will be so very deceitful and lying to he will seem, very much, like a good righteous and rightly guided man who will make a short and false “peace” in the Middle East. The Mahdi with have a partner who will be the false “jesus” of Islam. This Islamic ”jesus” will give Christian’s a choice , which is convert to Islam or die by beheading, this is the Koranic way to killing non-Muslims, as in 47:4. Those vicious murders of Christians in the future are predicted in the Bible. As seen in Revelation 20:4. Furthermore in Israel the Mahdi “shall divide the land” Daniel 11:39. [K.J.V.] between the Jews and Muslims and the Mahdi will also by many deceiving lying signs and wonders, will unify Shi ‘ite and Sunni Islam together common goal destroying the State of Israel ,once and for all. The Mahdi will then take the all the military force of Islam with Satanic intention of totally destroying the Jewish State, one and for all. The when the Second Coming of real Jesus will occur .This is at the Battle of Armageddon where the final and complete defeat of the Mahdi, along with false ”jesus,” and his Islamic military forces. After the great Victory there will be then the total destruction of Islam. As found in the Bible in, for example, Ezekiel chapter 37 and 38. Zechariah Chapter 12 and then 14:9-21 well as in Revelation 19:11-21.
    There is an Christian Arab pastor ,Michael Youssef who had written two well researched and informative books about the Islamic messiah called the Mahdi the are END TIMES AND THE SECRET OF THE MAHDI also the book entitled JESUS , JIHAD AND PEACE Furthermore, another Christian author on the topic of the Mahdi and prophecy is other than pastor Youssef is Joel Richardson who wrote THE ISLAMIC ANTICHRIST :THE SHOCKING TRUTH ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE BEAST and the other book entitled THE MIDEAST BEAST : THE SCRIPTURAL CASE FOR THE ISLAMIC ANTICHRIST.

  10. No Pointing says:

    Jesus always calling God, the Father. God is the creator of all living things, therefore He is the Father of all living things. Allah of Islam cannot be the Father, Allah cannot be God. Muhammad copied idol god from pagans and called it Allah. Allah has no spirit and word, Allah cannot talk and not alive. Allah is an idol. Muslims are praying to an idol and worshipping idol , devils and Satan. Muslims bow their head to ground and worship before devils and Satan. This world has many devils and devils like humans to worship them.

  11. Steve says:

    “The authors of these books were fallible humans. These books are not nor claim to be the words of God.” Unfortunately the mythical Jesus says the laws of Moses will stand for all time and “heaven and earth will pass away” before it becomes invalid.

    “We have unearthed evidence that at least parts of the stories attributed to Jesus predate him and are actually taken from the travels of Gilgamesh, the Sumerian and the Canaanite traditions.” In fact did you know no town of Nazareth existed for well over a hundred years after his supposed death? It is highly likely the writer of Matthew had his Godman as being from the newly named “Nazerth” or “village of the poor” as it was named by the “priestly” families who moved to there.

    “With this, Matthew closes his fable of Jesus’s early years. Yet Matthew is misquoting – he would surely know that nowhere in Jewish prophetic literature is there any reference to a Nazarene. What is ‘foretold’ (or at least mentioned several times) in Old Testament scripture is the appearance of a Nazarite. For example:

    “For, lo, thou shalt conceive, and bear a son; and no razor shall come on his head: for the child shall be a Nazarite unto God from the womb: and he shall begin to deliver Israel out of the hand of the Philistines.”

    – Judges 13.5.

    Matthew slyly substitutes one word for another. By replacing Nazarite (‘he who vows to grow long hair and serve god’) with a term which appears to imply ‘resident of’ he is able to fabricate a hometown link for his fictitious hero.

    The writer of Matthew (re-writer of the proto-Matthew stories) heard of ‘priestly’ families moving to a place in Galilee which they had called ‘Nazareth’ – and decided to use the name of the new town for the hometown of his hero.” http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/nazareth.html

    “You should read her books. There is plenty of evidence that the stories of the old and new testaments, attributed to Moses and to Jesus predate them. When I said this to a good Christian friend of mine, he blamed Satan for it. That kind of answer does not satisfy me and I am sure many others. My only conclusion is that the Bible is a mix bag of divine and fairy tale. The challenge is to separate the wheat from chaff.” If you admit there is no historical evidence for the existence of any Jesus then what Jesus are these people seeing if not the mythical Jesus of Nazareth? Or maybe like this Terence they are are suffering from hallucinations brought on by a mental illness, are possessed by demonic beings or are simply delusional?

    “If you can love God with all your soul and heart and love your neighbor, you have found the true religion.” This is not what the Jesus of the bible says. Therefore Christianity and “Jesus” are false – according to this standard. Either 1) “Jesus” didn’t exist, 2) He was a mad man preacher (as portrayed in the New Testament). 3) Was a wise person whose message and (the record of his life) was lost in which case he isn’t important – since there have been many decent and wise people – before and after him – whose life and teachings was recorded and thus provided some use to humanity. So “Jesus” is at best irrelevant and unknowable.

  12. Ali Sina says:

    @Steve,
    There is evidence that not all the Bible is true. This is undeniable and I do not have to show it. This has been done by the critics of Christianity already for centuries. I read the Bible some 18 years ago and it was thanks to these errors that I rejected Christianity. So the Bible is not the standard of truth for me. I found Jesus thanks to the stories of NDE and not to the Bible.

    Now that I have accepted Jesus I can also read the Bible again and find the gems of truth in it as well. However, it is a mistake to accept this book wholesale. If we want to make the world accept Jesus we have to be honest and acknowledge the truth that the Bible is not the word of God. This is my hope and aspiration.

    What is the Bible? It consists of two parts. The old and the new testaments. The OT also consists of two parts: Pentateuch and the books of the prophets. Pentateuch is alleged to be authored by Moses. It clearly is not. The best evidence is the obituary of Moses at the end of this book. The other books consist of stories prayers and some prophecies. The authors of these books were fallible humans. These books are not nor claim to be the words of God.

    The New Testament also consists of two parts. The Gospels of Jesus and the letter of the apostles. At the end there is also the Book of Revelations, which is a book of visions open to interpretation. The letters of apostles, is just that. The apostles were sincere and enlightened believers, but humans and fallible. So we can learn from them but it would be a mistake to take them as the words of God. That would be blasphemy in my opinion. The Gospels of Jesus are the only books that have to be read with more care. These books talk about the story of God coming to Earth. The question is, who wrote these books. They were written by the believers, decades after Jesus was crucified. How accurate is the account of these believers? There is no doubt that they were sincere but did their devotion compel them to adapt the story of Christ to make it acceptable and appealing to the public? We have unearthed evidence that at least parts of the stories attributed to Jesus predate him and are actually taken from the travels of Gilgamesh, the Sumerian and the Canaanite traditions.

    How can we explain this? My friend Acharria (Dorothy Murdock), was so rattled by these findings that she left Christianity and dedicated her life writing books persuading the Christians that Christianity is only fairytale. When I accepted Jesus and tried to show her mistake, she was so upset that basically cut her communication with me saying, “I miss the old Ali.” She was not willing to listen and sadly left the world in this state of denial. But as far as she was concerned she had found the truth and the evidence was overwhelming. So I could not possibly tell her anything that she did not know already.

    You should read her books. There is plenty of evidence that the stories of the old and new testaments, attributed to Moses and to Jesus predate them. When I said this to a good Christian friend of mine, he blamed Satan for it. That kind of answer does not satisfy me and I am sure many others. My only conclusion is that the Bible is a mix bag of divine and fairy tale. The challenge is to separate the wheat from chaff.

    In my opinion the Bible is the testimony of fallible people. My faith in Jesus is based on the testimony of people who died, went to the other world, met Jesus, God and angels and came back reporting what they said. They are also fallible people. The difference is that these people are contemporary. I can talk to them, email them, listen to them on Youtube and radio shows and ask them questions. In other words, your faith in the Bible is no more valid than mine. We both rely on the testimony of others.

    As for me, the Bible did not convince me, but NDE did. So if you are content with the Bible and this book helps you to find God, good for you. There is however, another large portion of humanity, such as myself and Acharia that cannot accept the Bible. We can find Jesus through NDE. I do not call you unchristian because of that nor should you call us that. It really does not matter to God. Howard Storm who was an atheist when had his NDE says he asked Jesus which religion (i.e., Christian denomination) is the right one. Jesus told him the one that brings you close to God. He did not name anyone. Why should we. If you can love God with all your soul and heart and love your neighbor, you have found the true religion. Call yourself whatever you want. Religions are vehicles to come to God. God does not care which vehicle you take. For me only rationality works. I cannot accept God in any other way. This does not make my faith better or worse than yours. We are different people and God wants to reach us all each in the way that best suit us.

  13. Steve says:

    “I do not believe in his virgin birth and I do not believe in his physical resurrection and physical ascension to heaven. There is no place for physical body in heaven. Body is a perishable vehicle we need only to interact in this world. We are all spirits, temporarily occupying this body. We are all children of God. Jesus is our elder brother. He is no different from us. Christianity is rational. If a belief is not rational, if it has to be accepted as dogma, it is not from God.” If you do not believe in his resurrection then you are not a Christian and you also are calling the Jesus of the bible a liar. There is no evidence any Jesus existed and we know all the stories in OT are nonsense and never happened. So according to your own standard your belief has no more basis in reality than this Terence fellow.

    I also will remind you that the Jesus of gospels like this Terence is alleged to have said. 17“Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18“For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19“Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
    20“For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.

    So Jesus upholds the barbaric commandments and laws of the OT – which is where Islam got its religious laws from. Also If Jesus was the God of OT (like he claimed) this means “good god” also commanded rape, genocide, killing of unbelievers, stoning and all the rest of it. “Meek and gentle” Jesus – like this Terence – would also threaten hellfire and curse those who did not believe in him. In fact before Jesus the Jews believed unbelievers simply cease to exist and no afterlife exists for them. Jesus changed all that so after you was raped, robbed and slaughtered at least your pain was over but now thanks to “good God” Jesus you also burn in an eternal lake of fire for eternity as well.

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