Augost 8, 2001
After reading you’r accusations about Islam, I
asked my self about rational thinkin, What (was) is free thinking ? If
you look at the meaning of (free thinker), it logically comes to my mind
is completely OPEN MINDED!
pls => Secular Humanism is a non-theistic way of thinking and living
that draws its knowledge from science, its inspiration from art(!), and
its motivation from compassion. It is based on the belief that each
person is unique and valuable, and that we must all rely on each other
to improve the world and the condition of humankind.
Humanism asserts that we must each take responsibility for ourselves and
for the communities in which we live, not relying on beliefs in
supernatural forces or gods to intervene in our behalf(!). Secular
Humanism emphasizes reason, scientific inquiry, individual freedom,
human values and the need for tolerance(!)(could be that respect?) and
So I couldnt help but asking to my self, is he open
minded?? ( no he ain’t) How can he call him self a rational thinker
when he is not ?!!! Taking side and being one perspective to the subject
can not define or can be meaning of this word, so go ahead ask your self
this; Am I a free thinker?? ( are you? )
I am a researcher not a
believer. I base my beliefs on facts and not my facts on my
beliefs. If you think I have made a mistake in my assessment of Islam,
you can disprove me. The challenge is open to anyone.
go to yahoo and search on rational thinking, lets c if you can find any
other web pages who hates or so angry at any religion.
I aim to fight the hate
that is being imparted by Islam. As a humanist and a freethinker this is
the way I chose to help the humanity. It is my firm belief that Islam is
the cause of the hate that separates Palestinians from the Jews and
kills so many of them in terrorist attacks. It is Islam that encourages
the Philippine Muslims to kidnap their Christian countrymen and murder
them. It is Islam that divided India in three pieces and caused the
massacre of millions of people. It is Islam that has plunged Afghanistan
in utter barbarity and desolation. It is Islam that made Iranians to
reverse the clock and go back 1400 years in time with so much human
suffering. It is thanks to Islam that women's rights are being violated
in all Islamic countries and they are being abuses in every possible
way. It is Islam that is responsible for ALL the miseries of the
Islamic countries. Millions died because of this cult throughout the
history and millions are suffering and dieing to keep this cult alive.
Was Muhammad a
messenger of God? No. I have demonstrated that clearly in my site. I
challenge anyone to disprove me. Muhammad was not from any god but a
narcissist man who, like his peers; Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Idi Amin,
Saddam, Pol Pot and other sick men of the history had no conscience. As
a narcissist he was a pathological liar. He lied and he believed in his
own lies. This is how the brain of narcissists works. They are bright
but they have a very distorted notion of reality and they manipulate and
use everyone to dominate and supply their narcissistic crave for power.
My job is to show to
the Muslims that Muhammad was not a messenger of God. He was a sick man.
He was a liar; a narcissist and we should not kill each other because of
the lies that a sick man told 1400 years ago.
I am a humanist and I
love humanity above anything else (god, Allah, Yahweh or any imaginary
deity) I want humanity to survive and peace reign. Unless you prove that
what I say about Muhammad is not right, my diagnosis of him stays
unchallenged. I have an article demonstrating that Muhammad
was a narcissist and I am in the process of writing a book on this
This is my contribution
to humanity. If Islam is abolished most of the hate that exist among the
Muslims and the rest of the world will also disappear. This world will
become a better place to live. With Islam the unity of humankind is
impossible. How can Muslims embrace the rest of humanity when their
prophet tells them that the unbelievers are najis 9:
28, that Muslims should fight
193, kill them 9:
5 and subdue them 9:
and do not befriend them even if they
are their own brothers and fathers 9:
If you really are the free thinker as u claim why
dont you lightning the others ? why not give examples of the other
religions? Why only ISLAM? IS that because you are a X Muslim?? ( are
you?? ) all you learned about Islam? And such a smart person like
happened to not know other religions ?..
if you were Muslim as you claimed to be, how come
you no nothing about christ or christianity ? or jews ?? and you
claiming to be intellectual person??!!!
If you had doubt on your original faith which you
grove up with ,how come you didn’t look at the other religions ?? YOU
DID ?? really ??? If you did, what is your prove that you dont believe
any of em? How come you don’t mention any of em ? If you are a FREE
THINKER or rational as you think you are , can you name a few absurd
thing from other religions that makes you not believe any of them ? As a
Free thinker why don’t you make a section of Christianity or Jews ?
??? .... Why don’t you lightning people with such things that you
believe wrong, like you did with Islam?
So as a “FREE THINKER” with your own words you
said ( As
far as attacking the beliefs of the Christians and the Jews, I can do
that freely and without fear of being killed )so we
can also discuss this matter about Christianity? (and among others ? )
for the sake of Freee thinking ?? so why don’t you??
My purpose in writing
is not to criticize people’s beliefs. I do not care if people want to
worship cows, rats, snakes, a black stone or the hocus-pocus of the
Quran and the Bible. I am not here to right everyone’s beliefs.
I am not an arrogant man like Muhammad who insulted all beliefs and
ordered his brainwashed followers to kill those who did not like his
concoction of lies and outlandish claims. The reason I fight Islam and
want to eradicate it is because it is a doctrine of hate. It promotes
disunity and war. People are dying in the name of Islam. Islamic
terrorism is menacing the peace and stability of the world. Islam today
is as dangerous as Nazism in 1930s. Do you want me to sit there and
criticize other religions? I think you have misunderstood the whole
propose of my fight. I don’t give a damn that Quran says Earth is
flat, or the Jinns are real creatures. What concerns me is that it
demands its followers to hate others and kill them. This is what Muslims
are doing. Islamic terrorism is inspired by Quran. I campaign to kill
Islam in order to save lives. I do not care about false beliefs, my
concern is hateful beliefs. We lived with false beliefs since the dawn
of humanity and we can live even longer. But we cannot survive with
doctrines that promote hate. Islam must go not because it is false, but
because it is very dangerous. The same people who go killing innocent
civilians in Israel by blowing their own bodies believing that in this
way they go to Allha's paradise and receive 72 houris to make love to,
could easily blow up cities in America. An atomic bomb can be placed in
a suitcase and the technology is now available to the Muslims. These
people have no conscience. They are brain washed. They are full of
hate. They would not hesitate to kill millions of innocent people in the
West and it does not bother them if some Muslims die in the process too,
as they believe that Muslims will go to paradise.
Islam is a real danger. Today nothing is more dangerous for the survival
of humanity than Islamism. The world has not yet waken up to this
The MAD (Mutual Assured
Destruction) deterred the East and West to blow up each other during the
cold war. But we cannot rely on MAD with Muslims. They are fanatics and
death to them mean nothing. They can kill millions of people and lose
their own lives in the process will do that with utter delight.
Isn’t it the whole idea behind you’r free
thinking is that, you
think faith is harmful and must go is due to the fact that Holy books
says such such things ? If so can we say same thing
about Christianity or Jews?
Judaism are as false as Islam, and there have been many freethinking
scholars among the Christian and Jews that have criticized and rejected
these beliefs. These critics have been freely exposing these religions
for at lease two hundred years. In Islam however the voices of criticism
were silenced by brutal force. That is why the people of the West are
much more enlightened and humanists than those affected by Islam.
is your comments on I.e. Jews' hatring to Jesus: Their Holy Scripture,
the Talmud, says: Jesus is burning in hell in "boiling hot semen.
(The Talmud, Gittin 57a)" or how about Jesus being GOD ? or dying
for humans sins ? can we say if he was a god? If so, why he didn’t
punish them ?? why he was not saying, o my self , my self, help me ????
so he was god , and he died for humans sins ? but he is god !!!!! so god
is dead !!!!? so wouldn’t be logical to believe that or say
Christianity(and other) is harmful and must go due to the fact that
Jesus claiming to be god ??? or insane ??????
(If ya look at the christian and other religions
not only Islam, you will find yourself 50k error, which i have no
intention of making any more examples like you do with islam!)
Although I know as much
about the Bible as I know about the Quran and Hadith, What these
religions teach is none of my business. Theology is not my cup of tea.
My interest is humanism, peace and unity of humankind. As far as
Christianity and Judaism are concerned they are de-fanged.
Islam, on the other hand like a poisonous snake is still killing
people. For the peace of the world Islam must be splayed. Other
religions and crazy doctrines hurt no one except waste the time of those
who believe in them and dims their intellects. That is fine with me as
long as they like it.
When I read your article(s) , i can clearly see
that you saying; “You do not believe on any religion” , but you are
not atheist? ??!?
wrote; “To begin, let me tell you that I am not an atheist. I
simply reject the notion of the God presented by primitive religions
like Judaism, Christianity and Islam (including Hinduism and
Zoroastreianism). I believe in a higher reality that I call the Single
Principle. This is the same God (!!!?!) that Einstein, Espinosa and
Hawkings talked about”. ( but rational thinking as I descripe
before, it clearly means ,; Secular Humanism asserts that we must each
take responsibility for ourselves and for the communities in which we
live, not relying on beliefs in supernatural forces or gods to intervene
in our behalf(!).
Make your mind would you ? do you believe or you
don’t ?? oh I forgot ,you just happen to believe same “being a
single principle ” as Einstein ( etc.) happened to believe.
What is that ?? how can you descripe it ? Where is
your prove ? How come someone who created all a “Force a single
principle ” Could possibly the author of this Universe without a
single prove? How ” it” could be so ignorant ?? , a such a being
shouldn’t warn anyone ?? shouldn’t create or choice someone to say
something about it? Or leave some “ prove” or a signature that he is
the author ? yes ?? No..??
If the answer is yes, then all this content of your
website is bullshit you do not even believe your own thoughts or have
respect to your self and i have nor you have any clue what the hell are
you talking about it !!! ( if you dont get it;
A )yes: yes he should have !! and has.
B) No –If you say, No!! we can at this point
describe this as “You'll be shooting yourself on the foot, if not in
the head. Which brings the question to our heads that,How can you
believe some “Force” who you not happened to believe to leave a
single prove ??????? (keep reading pls.)
If you think otherwise pls. explain That a such
force of yours and Einsteins (and.etc.) happened to believe doesn’t
leave a single prove or say anything about that he is the creator ?? But
you can claim, make a home page,insult, write and say such a things
about islam,(not the mention not really being rational by taking side)
cuz you are a free thinker ?? How on earth the author of this Universe
should be so ignorant?? How can he create the universe with this
ignorance and without any single prove to his creations?.
What are you trying to say ? are you trying to say
that “you’re smarter then the ONE being you claimed to believe ?? Is
that what we should understand from all this ??. Is it only smart people
believes the FORCE who no needs any prove at all ?
In this case, any answer you will receive is ,I
believe what you been looking and asking for!!
In the first place the
concept of the Single Principle is my personal views and I have no
interest making people believe in my views. However, from your question
I gather that you have not understood this concept yet. I do not believe
that the universe has a creator; therefore saying that the author of
this universe is ignorant is meaningless. I said I believe in a higher
reality not a higher force. Force is the manifestation of energy and
energy is convertible to mass. Force is a quantifiable physical entity.
The anthropomorphic god of religions is even more absurd than the theory
of the original force. When I say that God is the Single Principle
underlying the creation it does not mean that the Principle is the
creator. It is the law of creation. The Principle is not a being. It is
not a thing. It is a reality, just as love and the laws of the universe
are realities. The Principle exists without the need of any creator. I
have explained this whole concept along with why I reject the notion of
the religious god in a number of articles that you can find in my site
under the heading “GOD”. Nevertheless, this is not the subject I
would like to talk about. I am not here trying to introduce a new
philosophy. If you do not think it makes sense to you; you should not
accept it. May be one day someone will teach me some new idea and I too
will abandon this concept.
I have to admit that all this contents you been “trying
to tell is nothing to do with being Free thinker or islam religion. If
you are such a intelectual a “ FREE THINKER” you would post my
message and explain to me as well as everyone who share interest.
Looking forward to read your reply if you of course can.
and oh.. plss try to take a look at this page(s) a
REAL RATIONAL" thoughts, who does not take side or has anger of One
religion nor has any personal anger.
Have nice day and greetings to your "single
A true Rational thinker - jack.
Let the readers decide
whether you are a “true” rational thinker or not. I have yet to find
someone who does not believes to be one.
really happy to read your reply and I am truly glad that we can have
this discussion as a human and humanist. If to be honest i do not reject
or dont believe that you’r a good person. I can not judge, insult,
disrespect you, because the way you think and analyse the religion.
i have to admit you have misunderstood my content and my questions. When
i read your answers it doesn’t comes logical and answers directly what
i was asking and looking for. It does not satisfy or proof’s , besides
INSULTING anything i was questioning .
My purpose for replying is not
to criticise people’s beliefs like you or disrespect anyone, however I
do intend to correct you and your mistake(s), with an intelligent
debate. As much as you try to prove Islam is wrong.
is so hard for you to except that you are a human being and your
thoughts not necessary correct. (You will see many examples). However as
a TRUE” Rational thinker, as a humanist, I have right to think and say
about you (being rational) ,life ,religion anything, which people
believes excepts or don’t. Without insulting directly or indirectly,
Which i believe you fail to do so.(!)
pls. try to give a seconth to yourself and think,
before you become a irrational or any conclusion about me or my
thoughts about you and your contents.
As i said, I have no intention
to insult but disprove anything you believe in this matter (or not
believe ). However as you
descripe i do not care neither, “if people want to believe in cows,
rats, snakes or Bible,
torah , holy scriptures , single principles
and Quran or i care that you think Muhammad was arrogant
and Islam is poisonous snake is still killing people.
I am a Free thinker. Yes I am.
! My purpose is to show people being “Free thinker” not hating any
religion, any race, colour , language,
disrespect, insult, but discuss anything, freely in a “Rational”
My idea of being rational
maintance “LOVE” individual
values, emphasises reason.
And happened to belief that each person is unique and valuable,which
need for tolerance and cooperation. Even rejects “any” beliefs in
supernatural forces or gods to intervene in our behalf it does without
hate, insult. ( so
ask how many of this content you believe can best descripe you and your
rational thinking, before you calling me irrational).
is the way it is, you may except or not, But do not claim to be someone
when you do not fit in this category !!
you replied as “Let the readers decide whether you are a “true”
rational thinker or not. I bet you already remove my article.(!!!) But
however, I will answer this same as you do here on your site with this
If people has a problem of my
saying that Jews are irrational blood thirsty people and they kill with
no conscience., not only that, they also dying with passion of revenge
by killing innocent unarmed civilians without hesitation by any change
they get (i.e. look at Palestine.)
Christianity is same as Judaism ,who kills, tortures, rapes,inocent
people, woman and children ( i.e. Europe.azerbejian etc..).
People wants to believe that Jesus is insane ,god , gay, etc. Or
god being one hell of a sick pappy for engaging , chosen a “9”—year-
old -baby Mary, for having child and poisoning peoples mind for claiming
to be god after his born. Its fine with me !!! Maybe this facts
fulfilled with Anger, disrespect
and hate even is sad and true.!!!! But this description has
nothing, but nothing to do with being” Rational thinker”, besides
being ignorant and arrogant.
I think is much correct to say
that all religions are a
poisonous snake which been killing for centuries and still killing
people. I believe that would be the correct “rational thought” which
applies the meaning of Free thinking.!!!!
Get it ?!?!?!!
anyone analyse everything contents here in you’r web page, will
conclude ONLY “Islam
is cult and throughout the history millions are suffering and dying to
keep this cult alive. But not Christianity or Judaism or most
One think i dont understand, and reject
is that, very intellectual well educated (!) person like,you can
sit there, and reply me with fully ignorance like Christians and Jews
are de-fanged(!) and Islam a poisonous snake is still killing
people!!?!.... ( read my examples again and again and then think for a
if really to be rational or if anyone who has no sense of reason “NO
BRAIN”! but a little education will easily prove that, in our life
time from the beginning till now , no human being caused so much
suffering or killed, raped as much as Christians and Jews did and do. (
After all ISLAM exist no
more then 1400 years. You know that better don’t you?)
You quoted “My purpose in writing is not to
criticize people’s beliefs. I do not care if people want to believe in
cows, rats, snakes or in the hocus-pocus of the Quran and the Bible”
isn’t that just being ignorant?,( and arrogant )because then all this
discussion we been having is nothing but empty talk waist of time, if
you do not care!!!!!.
And Mr. Ali if you are X- Muslim , you should
easily know, that there is
no one in ISLAM does believe or expects hocus-pocus from Quran, but they
believe God, listen they’re prophet and read Quran for guidance.(!) (
and you are a researcher ? )
continue ( as you wrote) ; Although
I know as much about the Bible as I know about the Quran and Hadith, What
these religions teach is none of my business. .....................
Look brother, i do not mean to
insult you as i said before, But before anyone can except and give you
any prove which you have Challenging people for. I think people have to
understand you (Which I don’t), When i read carefully felt your
weaknesses , and can’t help but felling sorry for you.