The Challenge to debate with Dr. Zakir
Scores of Muslims asked me to debate with
Dr. Zakir Naik and told me he can respond to all my charges against Islam.
I agreed. This page shows our correspondence
with these Muslims and Dr. Niak's refusal
In this page there are more exchanges
between a Muslim sympathizer of Dr. Niak, Dr. Niak himself or one of his
buddies and me.
These two pages are published for the
benefit of the Muslims who keep inviting me to debate with Dr. Niak. It is
to let them see that their hero is the one who is evading the debate and
see his excuses. This is to show the Muslims that there are no answers to
the charges against Islam. I hope this will convince you to read this site
more carefully and find out the truth on your own. If you still think
someone can answer these charges, write to him and send him one of the
questions raised in this site and see what you get as response. I did that
myself when I first read the Quran and was shocked. I asked many scholars
whom I trusted and thought they are knowledgeable. None of them had any
answers. Try that yourself and find out the truth.
Munir Qasim is an admirer of Dr. Zakir
Naik. He assured me that Dr. Naik can respond to all my charges against
Islam and Muhammad. He wrote to him for the second time and this is what
he got in response:
Dear Brother Munir Qasim,
As-Salaamu Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuhu.
I pray to Allah (swt) for your health, happiness and
vigour in Islamic spirits. Aameen.
Jazakallah and thanks for your email dated 10th
December 2004. We are hearing about Ali Sina for the first time. There are
several such Non-Muslims who would love to debate Dr. Zakir Naik for
Dr. Zakir Naik prefers a public debate rather than a
debate on email which can continue for months and years together for which
Dr. Zakir Naik has no time.
Dr. Zakir Naik would not mind debating Non-Muslims as
long as he has a standing in the society and has a large following. If any
Non-Muslim who can attract atleast ten thousand audience for his
individual public talk Dr. Zakir Naik would not mind debating him. Other
wise the person is not worth wasting time and neither would we like to
make him popular.
Please let me know whether this Mr. Ali Sina has a
large following and is worth debating. If he cannot attract ten thousand
audience on his own let him give his so called research on Islam to any
Non-Muslim religious speaker who can attract ten thousand or more audience
and Dr. Zakir Naik would love to debate such a person.
Mr. Ali Sina is welcome to pose this challenge on his
May Allah (swt) shower His Choicest Blessings on the
entire Muslim Ummah and help us in our mission of bearing witness to the
truth of Islam before all mankind. Aameen
With warm regards and salaams from all of us at IRF.
Jazakallahu Khairan was Salaam,
Yours in the Service of Islam,
Public Relation Manager
Hi Mr Sina
I passed on your challange to Dr Zakir
Naik.Attached is his reply for your information.Looking forward for your
M M Qasim
Dear Munir Qasim
Please advise Mr. Zakir Naik
that my site attracts over 140,000 visitors each month and growing.
According to Alexa.com faithfreedom.org is at least 12 times more popular
than his site. Maybe this will deflate his condescending pomposity.
So if the statistics are of any indication, it is he who will rise
is stature by debating with me and not the other way round.
You may also want to tell him
that I have had debates with more important personalities than him such as
Grand Ayatollah Montazeri and others, These debates are posted in the debates page
of my site. Not a single person has won the debates with me, not because I
am a highly skilled debater, but because I debate from the position of
strength. It is easy to win when you speak the truth and your opponent
You may also tell Dr. Naik that as
of 2005 I am offering $50,000 U.S. dollars of my own money to anyone who
can refute my charges against Muhammad and
prove that he is a prophet of God.
Please remind Dr. Naik once
again that the reason I published this invitation is because during the
course of three or four years I received scores of emails from his fans daring
me to debate with him. I am confident that Dr. Naik is an intelligent
man and will not fall into this trap. Obviously his fans are more
confident about his ability than he is about himself. He would say
anything and would propose unreasonable conditions such as televised
meeting with 10,000 audience to avoid debating with
me. Dr. Naik, most likely, has read already some of my debates with other
contenders and knows this is the kind of rough-water he can't navigate! He has
made a reputation for himself and I perfectly understand his instinct to
not want to jeopardize it. However,
after being dared so many times by his fans and telling them "I am
ready, invite your good doctor", I felt it is important that I
publish this to show the Muslims that I am not the one who is shunning the
debate and stop them from constantly challenging me. I am ready at any
time to engage in a written debate with anyone.
Dr. Naik says he never heard of me. Am I supposed to think that all these people who wrote to me and challenged me to debate with him and I agreed never contacted him?
As for face to face debate
in front of camera or in public places, I consider it theatrics and have
no desire for that. It is time consuming, expensive and what can you say
in just two hours? Or, actually one, because half of the time is allotted to
your opponent. This kind of format suits Muslims who prefer
histrionics and claptraps to substance. A gathering with 10,000 audience may satisfy the narcissistic craving for grandiosity of some individuals but I personally am not on any ego trip and my debates are not intended for my self aggrandizement. All I can say is that over 10,000 people visit my site
in just two days. None of them are my "followings". They are
independent and freethinkers, not sheep to follow someone else. If really audience is what Dr. Naik wants he can get plenty of
the good ones here. But I suspect that is not the kind of audience he
likes. He prefers those who do not think and do not understand but applaud
him for his showmanship.
Also my doctors have
advised me to stay away from any public and televised meetings. They say with my
condition, a public meeting with Muslims is extremely dangerous for my
Dear Mr Sina
Attached is reply from Public Relation Manager of Dr Zakir Naik. I personally
feel that it will be great to see two scholars debating face to face in
front of public. Debate on internet seems to be an unconventional way of
debating. This is final mail from his side. Now ball is in your court.
Let see how u handle it.
||Thu, 06 Jan 2005 22:55:50 +0530
||"MUNIR QASIM" <[email protected]>
||"Islamic Research Foundation" <[email protected]>
||Re: Personal for Dr Zakir Naik Sahib
inform Ali Sina that his research on Internet is very poor. The
website Dr.ZakirNaik.com does not belong to Dr. Zakir Naik. It is
one of his fan / well wisher who is hosting the site. The official
website of Dr. Zakir is www.irf.net.
I checked the ranking of this site and see it is five time less popular
than faithfreedom.org. The point is that the excuse of Dr. Naik for not
debating with less famed people than himself is not a valid one.
Zakir Naik has not debated anyone on the Internet and does not
intend to. As mentioned earlier it may continue for months together
and each one claiming that he is right and the person who has more
time like Ali Sina can keep on replying and claims he is more
course Dr. Naik is more comfortable with flashy live conferences where he
can charm his audience with some claptrap without substance. But my
objective is to prove Islam is false and for that we need to make a thorough
study of the Quran and the character of Muhammad. This certainly
canít be done in a public conference and in a couple of hours.
Zakir Naik believes in having public debates and letting the
audience be the judge. Alhamdulillah Ali Sina has declined for a
face to face debate in front of a camera on public place even though
Dr. Zakir Naik does not consider him worth debating.
sure people can see that Dr. Naik uses haughtiness and pomposity as a
shield to protect his image. He is more aware than his fans of his
limitations. Every day Muslims are writing to declare they have left Islam
because of the information they got in this site. If Dr. Naik truly cared
about Islam and the truth he would have come to the defense of his faith
even if he thinks I am not worthy of his super inflated, ego loaded
convey to Ali Sina that there are hundreds of thousands of website
in the world and there are several thousands of website claiming to
attract lakhs of visitors every month.
Dr. Naik should take a look at this
page and learn how to differentiate "claims" from
How much traffic he gets?
and internet have its own audience but is nowhere compared to
satellite channels. Please inform Ali Sina that Dr. Zakir Naik
appears on six International satellite channels daily for half an
hour to two hours reaching more than 150 countries including Europe,
Africa, Asia and
. He also appears on several other International TV Channels
inform Dr. Naik that it is easy to fool and charm the uneducated people by
flashy television shows. I have been challenged by several of his fans who
think he can save Islam to debate with him. I have done my job by
declaring my readiness to debate with anyone including this Dr. Naik. If
he had anything more lethal than showmanship in his arsenal he would not
disappoint his fans. Furthermore, as a Muslim he can show his face on TV
and not to worry about being assassinated. This is a luxury we the
apostates canít afford.
daily millions of people are watching Dr. Zakir Naik. Compared to
Ali Sinaís 140,000 (i.e. less than 5000 daily per day) visitors
every month, he is no consideration. There are hundreds of such Ali
Sina who have requested Dr. Zakir Naik to debate with him to gain
is a substantial difference between those who watch television shows and
those who read the Internet. These are two different kinds of audiences. The
TV watchers are generally less educated thrill seeking masses who watch TV
for entertainment. Dr. Naik surely can impress this group. This is very
convenient medium since his audience is not able to question him.
Those who search the Internet are often educated people who are capable of
critical thought, who can't be easily swayed by flashy programs and who
demand proof. Yes we know Dr. Naik is a good showman and he has charmed
the gullible, but can he impress the thinking people too?
more his arguments are so feeble it is not worth answering. If Ali
Sina considers himself to be worth debating Dr. Zakir Naik, canít
he organise one talk and gather ten thousand people to listen to
is the kind of argument that can receive applause from the ignorant
masses. But certainly the thinking elite can see through evasive maneuvers
and recognize the real intentions.
Sina claims that not one out of the 1.2 billion Muslims accepts his
challenge. As mentioned earlier he not worth debating, but canít
he convince one out of 4.8 billion Non-Muslims, thousands out of
which have a capacity to gather ten thousand audiences for their
talk, to use his material against Dr. Zakir Naik in a public debate.
debate for me is tantamount to death sentence. We are talking about Islam
which is a cult of terror. Would I not be called a fool to put my life in
danger when assassination of the opponents is the ONLY argument Muslims
have? How Muhammad responded to his critiques and opponents? Didnít he
assassinate them? A public meeting would is absurd. Why my face should
make any difference? Canít he refute my claims against Islam in a
to show you the insincerity of Dr. Naik let us compare the efficacy of a
face-to-face conference and a written debate.
a face-to-face conference, especially attended by 10,000 people the cost
is exorbitant. You need to hire a big hall, actually a stadium, advertise,
have a committee of organizers to prepare the event then travel half a
world to attend this conference. This could cost hundreds of thousands of
dollars, depending where the conference is held. How much you can say then
in such an event? In a talk that lasts one hour, provided it is not
interrupted, you can say barely 3000 words. How many hours you can
talk? I can sit in my home and write a well researched and documented
article of 7,000 words in one day. A good debate on Islam can be
If really Dr. Naik was interested to discuss the issues, the written
debate is the way to go. But of course he is not. The importance of these
exchanges is to show his fans that he is not a scholar and he canít
respond to any of my charges. All he knows is what he has memorized to
impress his credulous and unscholarly audience. I can smash all those
arguments in one session.
sure none of these intelligent people will use his material because
they know that it will not help them to stand a chance against the
truth of Islam that Dr. Zakir Naik presents.
is free. I am ready to dispute the ďtruthĒ presented by Dr. Naik even
if his highness does not think I am worth debating. I invite anyone of his
fans to send me the most convincing arguments presented by this gentleman
and I will refute them and post them in my site.
exchanges show that Dr. Naik is not willing to jeopardize his position and
he is not going to debate. In order to show you he is a fraud, no
better than the infamous Jimmy Swagart and not a scholar, please send me
his arguments and see how I dismantle them. Let his highness stay in his
clouds of grandiosity. We do not need him at all. All we need are his
my refutation of all Dr. Naiks claims here)
far as his offer of US$ 50,000 for a person who wins a debate may
attract people of the calibre like Ali Sina not that of Dr. Zakir
Naik. If Ali Sina is willing to give one million dollar donation to
any charitable organisation of my choice then may be I can try and
convince Dr. Zakir Naik to debate him. Ali Sina boasts of 140,000
visitors visiting his website and he claims to have guided many of
them. Even if 75% of these visitors have faith in him and can risk
ten dollars each he can easily collect one million dollars. If so
many people have faith in Ali Sina to risk ten dollars each then to
he will be worth debating.
think, people can recognize hypocrisy when they see it and these
desperate attempts to avoid confronting me are not going to help much. I
have no desire to debate with Zakir Naik because I have not even seen any
article written by him. I am not familiar with his intellectual capacity
and his scholarship. All I know is that he has managed to fool
a good number of people giving them the impression that he is a scholar on
Islam. Well, I think by now his fans should be convinced that their hero
is just a paper tiger.
let me make it clear that this one million dollar is my suggestion,
which may or may not convince Dr. Zakir Naik. But if Ali Sina is
prepared then I will try my level best to convince Dr. Zakir Naik to
have a live public debate with Ali Sina in front of cameras and not
on the Internet.
this gentleman know that if he really cared about saving the honor of
Islam, he would have accepted the challenge two or three years ago when
his first fan pleaded with him to refute me. Since then I have reached to
at least three or four more million people and have let them know the
truth of Islam. I always said if any person can prove me wrong I would
remove this site. Had he had the interest of Islam in heart, he would have
come forth on his own. Dr. Naik is running a lucrative business and
his business depends on his reputation and Muslims' gullibility. He is
after fame and money. He does not care about Islam or truth. The likes of
him have infested all the religions since the dawn of time.
policy we do not waste our time on such material on Internet. I am
sure Ali Sina will have some reply to this letter, which will not be
replied unless he is willing to arrange a public debate of a person
who can gather ten thousand people for his talk or willing to donate
1 million dollar to a charity organisation of my choice if he looses
a public debate with Dr. Zakir Naik.
May Allah (swt) bless and guide all of us and give us the strength
and courage to bear witness to the Truth of Islam before all
With warm regards and salaams from all of us at IRF. Jazakallahu
Khairan was Salaam,
Yours in the Service of Islam,
I think this speaks for itself. The insincerity of this man is obvious to
any reasonable person.
Dr. Naik is afraid
me or his gigantic ego does not let him, is not the point. The point is that so far no Muslim has answered
these very old questions. They typically dismiss them and pretend to not
willing to dignify the enquirer for he is too dumb to understand and that
Allah has put a seal on his heart. So with these excuses they wash their
hands and avoid the questions altogether. But ask them to assassinate the
person who criticizes Islam and you'll find millions of volunteers.
you really want to remain a Muslim? Isn't it clear that Islam is nothing
but a huge lie?
a similar case here.
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||Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:02:17 +0000 (GMT)
|| "aman sharief" <[email protected]>
i respect u not because u sd all wrong abt islam but because ur well verse
with the text of quran,now the point is no translation of the holy quran
is 100% correct and ur translations are not even 50%correct.well as far
debate with dr zakir naik is concerned u'll never gonna surpass him,well i
know answers for most of ur allegations but i am not a great scolar
like dr zakir naik to answer u with the quranic references,but still u do
one thing u come straight to the office of dr naik in mumbai and challenge
him for a debate,or else u publish a big front page article to challenge
dr zakir abdul karim naik.and i challenge u to convert me to athiesm and
i'll guarantee u never in ur whole life will be able to do so,do u know
y?'coz islam is the best and only way of life.well i demand a reply from
u,jazakallah khair,allah hafiz, and assa lamalikum wr wb
well dont get stubborn that i've greted u with an islamic greetin,but my
religion asks me to even greet a non muslim with a salam that is what
called islam.long live islam.
Dr. Naik is already challenged
by nearly a hundred of his fans to debate with me and he has refused. I
have also written to him an open letter and have challenged him. He has
declined pretending superiority and hiding in his shell of haughtiness.
However I agree with you that I will never be able to convince his because
Dr. Naikís gigantic ego has blinded him. He runs a business and makes
good money selling religion to gullible. He is not after the truth. He is
a businessman and he is wise enough not to kill the goose that lays the
golden egg by debating with me and ruining his reputation.
Dr. Naik is not a scholar.
There are many Muslim scholars but this doctor is not one of them. He is a
showman. He likes flashy presentations but nothing deep and scholarly.
As for going to Dr. Naikís
office to challenge him, you must be kidding. Muslims kill those who
criticize Islam. Then what is the purpose of debating with him. He is not
an important person. I only posted these letters here because people like
you keep asking I should debate with him. I want them to see it is he who
has no guts to do such thing. I am always ready.
I am just an interested party possessing only a basic knowledge of
Islam. My basic knowledge has led me to believe that Islam kills people,
usually innocent civilians like some of my friends who were working in the
WTC when those monsters ran the planes into the buildings.
This debate that Sina is requesting is not just a
debate that would satisfy one man. It would also help a lot of us in
Western countries understand that Islam is really a religion of peace and
not just a barbaric relic dating back 1000 years, which was conceived by a
murdering, child molesting thug who was using the pretext of religion to
rape, pillage and enrich himself.
The debate would also clarify for us Westerners who
understand and are forever grateful that we live in a part of the world
that is enlightened, modern and caring about our fellow man. It is also a
part of the world that doesn't celebrate some dumb, useless Islamic thug
going into a pizza parlor and exploding nails into teenagersí bodies,
who hopes to die, go to heaven and pick up 72 virgins and romp around in
bed with them.
The debate would also help a lot of us in the west
understand there may be a good reason why a poor defenseless woman is
thrown into a hole exposing the top half of her body while a murderous
uneducated rabble who are unable to find even the most menial job because
of a stupid government throw rocks at her head until she is dead.
It will also help some of us in the West understand
why a 14 year old boy is lashed d to death because he ate something while
he was hungry.
The debate would also help clarify why nearly all
Islamic countries are so poor that they can't feed their own people and
those that are wealthy are so because they happen to have oil deposits
under the ground- an accident of nature.
It will help us understand why Muslims don't seem to
be able to assimulate themselves in countries of the modern world but live
in ghettos infested with extremism and hatred for the very people that
send out a monthly unemployment check.
Your superstar debater could also explain why women
are treated like slaves and have virtually no rights in Muslim law.
These of course are all little things which I am sure
your superstar debater will be able to demolish in a few minutes by
debating Mr. Sina over the web.
Thank you Joe,
I read a few pages of Zakir Niak's page. He is
not a scholar of Islam by any means. He is just a showman. Nonetheless, he
has managed to impress a lot of poor Muslims who think he is capable to
answer me. These invitations and his refusal should suffice to open the
eyes of at least some of his fans.
Jun 1, 2008
with Dr. Zakir Naik
I came across your web-site (faithfreedom.org)
around 2-3 months back. I read many of your articles and specially
your refutation of Dr. Zakir Naik on his debate with Dr. William
Campbell. I also the read debate section in which you had posted the
letters regarding debate with Dr. Zakir Naik. Since I know some
people at IRF(organization of which Dr. Naik is President), I
personally went to IRF and requested one of its authorised
representative to have a debate of Dr Zakir Naik with you.
On my communication with them I came to know that the letter which
you had personally written to Dr. Naik dated 2004/12/11 was infact
not received by Dr. Naik and his organization. The email id [email protected]
is not of Dr. Naik or his organization. Letters written to this
domain are not received nor responded to by IRF. IRF's website is www.irf.net.
So your boosting that you personally wrote to Dr. Naik is entirely
wrong. One of letters which was received by people at IRF was from
Mr. Munir Qasim which was replied back. With reference to this
letter, you replied to Mr. Munir Qasim(not to IRF) on 06 Jan, 2005.
I am posting my personal conversation with a responsible person from
IRF, Mr. Nisar Nadiadwala, regarding the debate with Dr. Naik within
the context of this letter and there after. Comments of IRF
representative Mr. Nisar to your reply is in blue and highlighted in
grey. In between I have given my own comments which I have stated as
How Many Hours do you require? We are ready to
give you the no of hours as agreed by you.
IRF Visits 20 Lac homes every day through
You are lying. Your job was not done as no
readiness was received by irf.net
from you. You had addressed to an email which is neither received
nor responded to by IRF. The mail received by IRF was from a third
person and not you. Regarding showing your face in public, you can veil
your face by wearing a mask made by
make up and enjoy the luxury of not revealing your face in
It is a total lie to say that TV is generally watched
by less educated. Both educated as well as uneducated masses watch
TV and they can't be fooled when two personalities are debating
live. Our debates are not entertainment but academically well
researched from Muslims and non-Muslims. In our live talks, we give
chance to non-Muslims to pose any questions on Islam. Dr Zakir Naik
receives invitations from hostile Non-Muslims too.
My Comment: Through a live debate lets see if you
can impress both these groups of people by your truth.
It is not an argument, it is an offer. As you
say they are intelligent so let them decide. Why are you shying away
from a live debate?
Salman Rushdie and Tasleema Nasreen are still
alive. Debating is not killing. Where do you want to arrange the
debate? We are ready to debate in an anti-Islamic country of your
choice where you can be assured of your security.
Internet debate via chat or email can continue
for months and years without any conclusion. In internet debate the
identity of the debating person cannot be verified and these debates
can be edited or not published at all. Who is Ali Sina? we
don't want to debate with a ghost via internet. In
debating live there can no chance of any foul play, requires
less time and has a wider reach through satellite TV. These
recordings can be seen by millions later and can also be
posted on the internet as well.
Mr. Ali Sina if you are so shy of
speaking in front of the public then a closed door live debate
is possible without audience. And you don't have to worry
about the cost. IRF is ready to bear all the cost for
organizing this debate and also give you executive class to-and-fro air
tickets to the venue of the debate. 3000 words are enough
to put forth your allegations against Islam. Any way we are still
giving you a better option. As you have agreed that 150,000 words
are required to have a good debate and as per your statistics, 3000
words can be spoken in an hour so for an 150,000 word debate it
would require around 12 days, with a 4 hours daily
session. Are you ready for this?.
You can bring your scholarly audience here. How
long that session would be?
My Comment: Remember your words here, you can
smash all his arguments in one session then there
is no need for a 150,000 word, 12 session debate?
Why Fans? You can debate live with
Dr. Zakir Naik?
Dr. Naik never claimed he is a scholar. He
always says he is a student of comparative religion. People and
other scholars say he is a scholar. Why don't you come forward to
give your arguments in recording?
My comment - You don't need to worry about
paying one million dollar. Giving of US$ 50,000 is your own
offer, which you will definitely fulfill if you loose, apart from
publicly declaring that Islam is a true religion and removing your
site and accepting Islam. Off-course you can't put similar
conditions to other party if he looses as this is your own offer.
Either you loose your money and credibility or gain your
authenticity if you win.
My Comments: If you are truthfull in your
allegations then you would accept this challenge now. If you don't
accept this challenge then the same thing can be said about
you. You are running a lucrative business of fooling people with
your lies and your false reputation depends on these lies. If you
accept this challenge then you will have to close your shop of
This is a blatant lie. Many have answered. It
is a different question if answered convincingly or not.
To whom have you written? And when did he
refuse? Can you show any letter from Dr. Naik or his organization
which is addressed to you where he flatly refused to debate. He
has not declined but it is you who is avoiding by giving excuses for
not having a live debate. Who is in shell? No body knows who the
person behind the veil of Ali Sina is. Is it wrong to have flashy
presentations? (My comment Ė In Dr. Naik and William Campbell
debate, it was William Campbell who had used flashy presentations
and not Dr. Naik.)
My Comments Ė You don't need to go to his
office. I have spoken on your behalf, with all the conditions
favoring you and excluding all the conditions to which you had
objected to for not having a live debate.
As it is already made clear that the debate can
be conducted in an Anti-Islamic country of your choice. And you can
veil your face so there is no harm to you.
My Comment - Same question goes for you as
well. What can one say in writing that one cannot say in public.
Isnt It is more stupidity to be defeated in
view of millions of viewers, both scholarly as well as
can never get better than this and I see no reason why you should
not come forward for a live debate now. This is the opportunity
which you would not like to miss. On your entire site you have
boosted about your truth and validity of your arguments and falsity
of Islam. It is your best opportunity to expose Islam in front of
millions worldwide. I was told that Ali Sina will never accept this
live debate offer even after this. Let's see what is your call on
this? Will you still continue giving silly excuses of debating on
internet only, after all the excuses given by you for not debating
live being done away with. I would just like to conclude that
If you decline then readers can make their own
mind about your authenticity."
for your response.
P.S: Personal Appeal:- Apart from sending this letter to you, I am
also sending it to the IRF representative, Mr. Nisar Nadiadwala on
his personnal email-id along with other domains of IRF, putting
their names in CC, so that you can reply to all. While publishing
this letter on your site please remove all the email ids from the CC
for the purpose of spam protection.
Mr. Huzefa Kazi,
I have already said that I will
accept a live debate anywhere provided that I am defeated first in
writing. Why this is so
difficult? I have refuted not
only Dr. Naik in writing but also his prophet. Why canít he do the same?
My job is done. I am not seeking
debates with Dr. Naik. It is
now up to him to respond to my refutation. If he pleases to do that in
writing or in a televised show it is up to him.
Now why I do not consider live
debates as effective as written debates becomes obvious when one watches
the debate between Dr. Campbell and Dr. Naik.
The Muslims who attended that debate came out convinced that Dr.
Naik was the winner. The gloating expression of rapture on their faces, as
captured on the video, shows they are very pleased of the outcome.
However, I took that debate apart and analyzed every word stated by
both Dr. Campbell and his opponent. I have shown with clarity that far
from being a winner, Dr. Naik has proven to be wrong on every statement.
The only part that he won was when he questioned the contradictions
in the Bible, to which Dr. Campbell responded he has no answer.
This only proves that Dr. Campbell is an honest man. The Bible
indeed contains contradictions and errors. This however is not a proof
that the Quran is flawless. Finding
errors in other religious books, does not show the Quran is right. It is
tu quoque, red herring and a non sequitur argument. All of which are
As some experts say,
communication is 95% body language. It
is possible to make a lie sound truth with postures. Oratory is an art.
Hitler had the right body language for his audience and could, not only
convince them, but bring them to tears by telling them nothing but lies.
He wrote: "If you tell a lie big enough and keep
repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.Ē Mein Kampf,
1925 (James Murphy translation, page 134). It is how you deliver a lie
that makes it believable. If a lie is said emphatically, forcefully and
with conviction it will be believed more than a truth stated in low key.
Hitler had mastered this art, so did many other
narcissists of history including Muhammad. Dr. Naik has that ability too.
This is clear to anyone who watches the videos of his debate with Dr.
Campbell. Dr. Campbell
debunked completely the claim that the Quran is scientific. He used
science and facts to back up his claims. Nonetheless, Dr. Naik managed to
pull wool over the eyes of his Muslim audience by lying persuasively.
The approach of Dr. Campbell was scholarly, that of Dr. Naik was
showmanship. Dr. Campbell won the debate while the audience got the
impression that Dr. Naik was the victor. The
truth of the matter can be exposed when one reads the transcript of that
debate. In writing there is no posturing, no bravado, no jeering or
cheering. All that matters is the weight of the arguments.
I am not a showman and not a flamboyant orator. I
have not memorized tons of verses to impress my audience with my memory.
None of these have anything to do with the truth or falsehood of an
argument. However they can leave an impression on the listeners who become
impressed by the memory of the orator and forget to pay attention to what
he says. It is a fact
that many judge a book by its cover. Likewise many can be impressed by
these external factors and overlook the lack of evidence in the speech of
the orator. My focus is on research. I am interested in scholarly
approach. I want people to judge the strength of my arguments by
the evidences that I present and not by HOW I present them. I am more
interested in the content and less in the form.
Dr. Naik is a master magician. His props are words.
He can pull rabbit out of his skullcap with his words and effectively give
the impression of winning even when the reverse is the case.
I want Dr. Naik to beat my argument and not my oratory skills.
Oratory is an art. I have not mastered it and I am not interested in it. I
am a private person and prefer to communicate my thoughts in writing.
Despite all that, I have expressed my readiness to
confront Dr. Naik in person and in public, even if that public is in Pakistan,
provided he refute me in writing first.
I am bending backwards to accommodate your demand. But I know for a
fact that Dr. Naik will never debate in writing. He relies on his
showmanship skills. He knows
that without it he is helpless. It
is like taking the props of a magician away from him and then asking him to perform
his magic. He canít. Just as
a magician cannot perform any magic without his props, Dr. Naik is
speechless without his showmanship skills.
There is no content in what he says, it is all how he says it that
makes the impact on his less than educated Muslim audience.
If you are convinced that he can win in a written
debate, here is your
chance. Ask him to refute me in writing and then we meet anywhere you
specify for your final blow. How
difficult is that? What does
it take to write a few pages of refutation? I
can give you my word that you will never be able to convince Dr. Naik to
engage in a written debate.
No one said he is stupid. It would be stupid for him to accept a
written debate just as it would be for me to accept a public one. I know
the damage that FFI is causing to Islam. My book, Understanding Muhammad
will undo Islam. All it needs is publicity. I have not forgotten the
fatwas against my life coming from India. He will have his live debate
with me ONLY if he defeats me in writing, and we both know that means
My book The
World Greatest Showman that refutes all Dr. Naik's claims is on
line. All he has to do is prove me wrong.
Now, may I ask why he refuses to debate with my
friend Sam Shamoun
who has been asking for a debate with him for years?
Sam has emerged as a scholar and a great orator too. Why
is his invitation is ignored?
Mr Ali Sina,
Why did you not post my entire letter which I had written to you giving
comments to your previous replies step by step. You just pasted my
comments removing your replies so that readers cannot understand the
context of my statements. This is the way you quote things out of context
to prove islam wrong. This is the reason you want email chat so that
you can play around with the transcripts to suit your dirty tricks. You
claim your self to be a charlatan of humanity but you couldn't consider my
simple request of not to publish email Ids for spam protection.
Sina: You repeated
everything that was written in this same page. That makes the page
too long. Why donít you just quote just the part that you want to respond
I tweaked the email
addresses by replacing @ with (at) so you wonít get spammed, but it is
important to publish them as Muslims often accuse me of fabricating
correspondences to make my opponents look silly.
Kazi: In your previous letter you had said "Several
Muslims asked me to debate with Dr. Zakir Naik. The following
correspondence should make it clear that I am ready and it is Dr. Naik who
is unwilling to debate." And now you say
"My job is done. I am not seeking debates with Dr. Naik."
Now every body can recognize your hypocritical stance.
Sina: I never sought debate
with Dr. Naik. I said I am ready to debate with anyone including Dr. Naik
and I even sent him an email letting him know that because of so many
requests from Muslims I am ready to debate in writing.
I have not changed my position.
However, since I have already started this
debate by writing an entire book refuting Dr.
Naik, the ball is now in his
court. My job is done. It is
up to him to respond.
Kazi: You say "Despite all that, I
have expressed my readiness to confront Dr. Naik in person and in public,
even if that public is in
". Ali Sina Boosting is free which you do so convincingly. You had
given various excuses for not debating live, about your safety, less time,
not showing your ugly face and cost. we took care of all these excuses and
gave you a proposal. And as exactly I was told, you refused.
Sina: I said I will debate in public, with one simple
condition that Dr. Naik defeat me in writing first. Can
you explain why this is so hard? It
does not have to be long. Just
pick up any of my charges against Muhammad and write a couple of pages and
prove I am mistaken. If you
can do that I will come to wherever you want.
Is this not fair?
It is more than fair. However, you know
that this condition is impossible. You guys know about my challenge for a long time and
if you could have refuted any of my charges against Muhammad you would
have done it by now.
Kazi: After reading your articles, I thought that may be there
is some truth in what this man is saying and he will accept the challenge.
I had sent you a letter as per my discussion with Research department in
IRF. But now I have come to the conclusion that you are a liar and Dr
Zakir Naik is not required to debate with a rat like you, as we dont
require to fire a cannon to kill a mouse. I think any good Muslim can
defeat you, Inshallah, but again the condition is the same "on
TV camera" so that you have chance to eradicate Islam as per your
mission. On internet you dont have much of a chance to reach out millions.
Sina: I do not need to reach
millions. All I have to do is kick-start the movement. The movement will
run by its own momentum. I do not seek to be the center of anything. There
are many other wonderful ex-Muslims who are doing what I do in their own
way. Many of these friends once argued with me for years and now they are
my allies. Some of them may even disagree with me on my methodology. That
is fine. We do not have to agree on everything. I am not after followers.
The point is that Muslims are waking up and they are rising to the
challenge to awaken other Muslims.
Kazi: You will never ever get ready to debate live because once
your lies are exposed in front of millions of viewers you will have to
close down your lucrative business of collecting donations from Jewish and
Sina: I told you the
condition. First you must prove me wrong in writing and then I will meet
you anywhere. I suppose you
know that is impossible. There are more than half a dozen websites set up
exclusively to refute me. None of them has been able to refute anyone of
my charges. You do not need so
many websites. All you need is one good article that disproves, not all,
but one of my charges in a logical and definitive way.
I am going to make an offer to Dr. Naik
that if he truly believes Islam is true and he can prove it, he should not
hesitate to accept. I am proposing that Dr. Naik and I, debate on
several topics and then publish that debate as a book. The book can
be about 100,000 words (50,000 words each). This would be a great
opportunity to set the records straight and let truth win over falsehood.
Does he accept this offer? I know that if any Muslim scholar makes
such an offer to me, I will jump on it.
Kazi: As far as debating Sam Shamoun is concerned, IRF gets
lots of letters asking Dr. Naik to debate with them. Dr Naik is not free
to debate with each and every Tom, Dick and Harry in the world who stands
up to challenge him.
Sam Shamoun is not every Tom, Dick and Harry. He
is a scholar whose knowledge of Islam surpasses many Muslim scholars
including that of Dr. Naik. Dr. Naik is a good orator, but scholar he is
not. His analysis of facts is very superficial. It
was funny to listen to Dr. Naik saluting Yazid ibn Mu'avia with "may Allah be
pleased with him." This shows the shallowness of this man's knowledge. Yazid did not even consider himself to be a
Muslim. He simply ruled a nation of fools. I don't say Hussein whom he
killed was a better person, but Hussein was a grandson of Muhammad, while
Yazid was the grandson of Abu Sufyan the archenemy of Muhammad. It takes a
very ignorant Muslim to salute the non believing murderer of the grandson
of his prophet with "may Allah be pleased with
Sam knows Islam better than Dr. Naik. He
is also a great orator. He is a
Christian and not an apostate of Islam and although it does not mean that he is
completely safe, there are no fatwas against his life.
Kazi: As far as your leaving Islam is concerned, you are hiding
the fact that you were a Shia and hence you have left shiaism. This is
what the majority of Muslims who visit your site does not know. Why
haven't you refuted the Imamate of twelve imams of shias including imamate
of Hazrat Ali on your website? I challenge you to answer this
question on your website.
Sina: I have not hidden the
fact that my background is twelver Shiite. My view of Shiism is
clear. Shiism is a compounded lie - a lie within another lie. All the Shiite
ďsacredĒ imams were hungry for power, pervert and corrupt. They all
were as brute as their ignoble grandfather, Muhammad. Ali was an inept ruler and a
ruthless butcher. He killed those who disagreed with him. That was
the extent of this man's diplomacy and political acumen. Sadly, I
descend from this disgraceful house. But do not hold it against me. After
this many generations the amount of their gene in me is less than a drop
in an ocean.