Yamin Zakaria vs. Ali Sina
Part II Page 6
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Incest: This is a sickness of mind. It is by no means an
problem. In fact incest
is much more a problem in Islamic counties than it is in the West. Because the
relationship of men and women is taboo and because boys see only their
sisters unveiled and accessible, the incest among brothers and
sisters and uncle and niece happen a lot more in Islamic countries where
the women can be even raped by their family members. This problem rarely
surface, unless the sister becomes pregnant and if that happen she is killed
to save the "honor" of the family.
Necrophilia: This is a mental disease and
has nothing to do with race or culture. There are sick people everywhere and I am sure Muslims who are sick in many other ways thanks to
their sick religion are no better when it comes to this insanity. Do you
have any proof that necrophilia does not happen in Islamic countries?
there is a curious hadith that I would like to share.
is from a book called "Kanz Al Umal" (The
Treasure of the Workers), in
the chapter of "The issues of women", authored by Ali Ibn Husam
Aldin, commonly known as Al-Mutaki
He based his book on the hadiths and sayings listed in "Al-Jami
Al-Saghir," written by Jalal
by Ibn Abbas:
(Muhammad) put on her my shirt that she may wear the clothes of heaven,
and I SLEPT with her in her coffin (grave) that I may lessen the
pressure of the grave. She was the best of Allah’s creatures to me after
Abu Talib’… The prophet was
, the mother of Ali. (Sentence number 34424
Arabic word used here for slept is "Id'tajat," and literally
means "lay down" with her. It is often used to mean, "Lay
down to have sex." Muhammad is understood as saying that because he
slept with her she has become like a wife to him so she will be considered
like a "mother of the believers." This will supposedly prevent
her from being tormented in the grave, since Muslims believe that as
people wait for the Judgment Day they will be tormented in the grave.
"Reduce the pressure" here means that the torment won't be
as much because she is now a "mother of the believers" after
Muhammad slept with her and "consummated" the union.
explanation may not be necessarily correct. I personally think Muhammad
simply laid down with the cadaver. There is no doubt that Muhammad was
sick in the head but I doubt he was that sick. Anyway, I just quoted the
haidith as I found it relevant but my
hunch says Demetrius is wrong.
مع امرأة في
ثياب الجنة، واضطجعت
بعد أبي طالب -
- عن ابن عباس).
و الأفعال ..
باب في جامع
Sex: I have no idea what is this. It is the first
time I hear such word. Can you please explain to us how it is done and why
you think the westerners do it more than Muslims? Bring your proof.
as you see your accusations are completely baseless. Some of these
insanities are practiced more among the Muslims and some of them are even
encouraged by Islam.
You either forgot or intentionally did not talk about this mental
disease. This happens also in the West and the tolerance of the Westerners
towards it is inexistence. The pedophiles are hunted down and locked up to
protect the children. However you conveniently did not mention it because
pedophilia is not a crime in Islamic world at all. Many men have
pedophilic relations with young boys and marrying children is also a
sunnah. In fact pedophilia in Islam is so normal that Muhammad in his sick
way of thinking promised "pearly boys" to his faithful
followers. The thought of that is sickening but the fact that Muhammad
makes it part of the heavenly rewards shows he thought is it something
Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them.
Youths (handsome) as pearls well-guarded.
Sina, as I stated earlier this is not going to be a debate about
Islam or nothing but Islam and the alternative as you said you have
By rational necessity this has to be the case as issuing criticism
by definition means there are criteria for making that judgement. It
seems you (Mr. Sina) simply want to sit and levy charges against
Islam without elaborating your “better
in fear of exposing yourself. So that others can put your “better
the docks as much you are doing to Islam. Avoiding
this tantamount to intellectual defeat, like the man who wears a
mask and calls everyone else ugly but his so-called “better
kept hidden under the mask because it is in reality very grotesque.
Hence, this is important for our viewers to see objectively both
sides of the arguments, so that they may know what “better
alternative” that they are getting into after leaving
course when we get to the actual debate after you clarified these
above points, it would be constructive for you and others to keep to
one subject at a time rather than go off at a tangent on many other
issues. I see that in your enthusiasm you have touched a lot of
subjects no doubt you will get an opportunity so please be
again you urged me to show you a better alternative to Islam. I
already said what my alternative is. I am a humanist and a practitioner of
the Golden Rule. This is my alternative. But because I believe in the
Golden Rule and the freedom of faith, I respect people’s choice to
believe in any religion they like. I do not agree with the premises of any
of these religions; however I have no right to stop people believing in
them. My fight is not against faith, it is against hate. The
reason I am against Islam is not because it is a religion but because it
is a political movement of imperialism and domination in the guise of
know why you insist so much that I tell you what religion I practice
when I practice none. You can’t defend Islam. You are only trained to
engage in tu quoque or the "you too" fallacy and attack other religions instead of
defending Islam. With me you feel helpless. You are completely disarmed. The
circuits in your brain are short circled. You just don’t know what to do
is where the weakness of Islam is exposed. All you Muslims can do is to
counter attack and start finding fault with the religion of your opponent.
And since you can’t do that with me, you simply are lost.
me explain this to you Mr. Zskaria. I have no religion. I do not believe
in anything. I am a freethinker. I doubt, investigate and come to the
truth by weighing the facts. My motto, is doubt everything, find your own
light. It is not that I see all religions as totally wrong. I see truth and beauty in all the religions
in various degrees. The only religion
that is bereft of truth and beauty is Islam. I cherry pick the good things
in all the religions and philosophies. I think all religions are manmade.
But this does not mean they are bad. Some parts of them are very good. Although
I do not think they are divine guidance, I think one can find pearls of
wisdom in many of them. The only religion that is pure dung and has no pearls is Islam. Other religions are manmade while Islam is made be a
psychopath. This is the big difference.
need not worry about telling me about publishing my response, as not
only I have a website but huge email database and my articles
regularly appear on many websites and newspapers. Issuing such petty
threats like a school boy does not bother me so do not waste your
time going down that venue. If
you do not publish my response the readers will “interpret
this as your lack of confident in your ability to win this debate”.
Finally I am happy to hear that you are going to publish
our debate. Please let us know the URL so I can link to your site. You may
also link to mine if you choose so.
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