How to Sow the Seeds of Doubt

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 How to Sow the Seeds of Doubt

2006/02/26

Sid sent me one of his conversations with a Muslim which I found it hilarious. I trust you will like it too. 

salami_s : hi talat

talat6 : HI

salami_s : u frm india?

talat6 : YUP

salami_s : nice

talat6 : U?

salami_s : yeah india too

talat6 : O.K.

salami_s : i had a Q on islam

salami_s : thought u would be of help


talat6 : PLEASE

salami_s : do u believe allah has created this universe?

talat6 : YES

salami_s : and this earth with all its living and non living things?

talat6 : YES 

salami_s : does allah loves his creation that he has made?

talat6 : 70 TIMES MORE THAN A MOTHER

salami_s : wow

salami_s : that goes for everything?


talat6 : ?

salami_s : i mean all his creation?

talat6 : YES

salami_s : so does allah loves pigs too??

salami_s : sorry dont mean to be offensive

salami_s : does he or does he not?



talat6 : ALLAH HAS DESCRIBED HIS LOVE FOR HUMANITY

salami_s : well u just agreed that allah loves his creation..right?

talat6 : AS FOR AS PIGS ARE CONCERNED I,M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT

salami_s : its not a Q of ur worry

salami_s : its a logical Q

salami_s : u said allah loves his creation...so he must be

loving pigs too isnt it true?

salami_s : does he or does he not?


talat6 : IT,S NOT A q IT,S KINDA DISTORTION

salami_s : i am asking a simple Q

talat6 : IN BRAIN

salami_s : u can choose to say yes or no

salami_s : does allah loves pigs?


talat6 : LOOK

salami_s : its a very simple Q talat

salami_s : pls answer


talat6 : LET ME ASK YOU SATAN IS A GOD,S CREATION

salami_s : so allah loves satan too?  

talat6 : NO

salami_s : but we are not talking about satan here

salami_s : we are talking about a animal called pig


talat6 : BUT HE IS A GOD,S CREATION

salami_s : are u saying pig is satan?

talat6 : NO

salami_s : forget satan then

salami_s : just answer me...

salami_s : does allah loves pigs or not?



talat6 : TELL ME WHAT IS THE CONCEPT OF HELL

talat6 : Y GOD CREATED HELL

salami_s : talat...u are evading my Q

salami_s : just answer yes or no

salami_s : tht wll be ok



talat6 : IF GOD LOVES 70 TIMES MORE THAN A MOTHER

talat6 : DON,T BITCH

talat6 : DON,T TRY TO BE VERY SMART

salami_s : u said allah loves 70 times more than a mother his creation..that goes for a pig too??

talat6 : I DON,T WANNA LIE ON THIS

salami_s : talat why the hesitation to answer such a simple Q

talat6 : I REALLY DON,T KNOW ANS FOR THIS

talat6 : YOU CAN HAVE MY E-MAIL

salami_s : what does ur mind tell u

talat6 : I,LL ANS U SOON

salami_s : so u are not sure ??

talat6 : YES

salami_s : how can u claim to know islam when u dont know such a simple Q

salami_s : i dint even ask u anything on islam


talat6 : I NEVER CLAIMED THAT I KNOW ALL ABOUT ISLAM

salami_s : well ths is nothing about islam...

salami_s : ths is abut allah

salami_s : and allah is same for everyone of us

salami_s : call him by any other name

salami_s : but dont u find it surprising that u dont have a answer to such a simple Q

salami_s : something stops u

salami_s : u reach a mental block

salami_s : u are afraid 

salami_s : isnt that true ?









talat6 : I TOLD YOU I DON,T WANNA LIE

salami_s : talat even a 5 yr old can answer this Q boldly

salami_s : that for allah everyone is same..and he loves all and hates no one

salami_s : do u have the guts to say it as a true muslim??

salami_s : or should i consider that u dont know ur allah yet?




talat6 : I DON,T AGREE WITH YOU

salami_s : i never told u to agree with me talat

salami_s : i am asking u for an answer which u are not able to give


talat6 : WHERE IS THE CONCEPT OF HELL OR HEAVEN

salami_s : which a 5yr old can give in 2 secs

salami_s : talat hell and heaven we can deal later...answer this simple Q first


talat6 : BE CAREFULL

salami_s : carefull of?

salami_s : u ?

salami_s : allah?



talat6 : THIS EARTH IS NOT A JOYLAND

salami_s : talat answer me 

salami_s : dont give me that crap pls

salami_s : i asked u a straightforward Q i expect a straight answer like a man



talat6 : I TOLD U I REALLY DON,T KNOW

talat6 : U CAN,T MAKE ME EMOTIONAL 

talat6 : SORRY BABY

salami_s : emotional  

salami_s : talat  i dont want to get personal here..and my talks never were personal against u  


talat6 : HEY

salami_s : ill wait for u...and ur answer

talat6 : I,LL SEE U SOME OTHER TIME

salami_s : till then be a man enuf to leave with watever pride there is left in u now  

salami_s : ill wait buddy

salami_s : i trust u can answer my simple Q  



talat6 : I SAID I WILL

salami_s : yeah

salami_s : till then i dont want to see u 


talat6 : DON,T WRITE EMOTIONAL SENTENCES

talat6 : WHO ARE YOU

salami_s : dude u are not a girl nor am i  

salami_s : we both are men 

salami_s : so guess we are good in emotions



talat6 : NEVERMIND

talat6 : I,M NOT LOOKIN FOR A GIRL ANYWAY

salami_s : look for the answer i asked

talat6 : ALRIGHT

talat6 : LISTEN

talat6 : IF I BEEN A LIAR OR COWARD I,D HAVE ANS U

talat6 : U BEEN CHATIN NICELY

talat6 : I,LL ANS U

talat6 : GOODBYE

salami_s : sure ...but till then be a man enuf to not come till u get 

an answer

salami_s : good bye



talat6 : WHAT U SAID

salami_s : i amsaving this  

salami_s : for our reference


talat6 : I,LL COME IN THIS ROOM

talat6 : BY TOMORROW

salami_s : sure

talat6 : HOPEFULLY WITH ANS

talat6 : BYE

salami_s : but come with a rational answer that will appeal to anyones mind

salami_s : not some quotes from a holy book  

salami_s : bye for now

Sid says, “I came up with this silly yet effective way to deal with Muslims. I have used this ploy again and again to confuse Muslims with a 99% success result. The point is not to argue with them over serious issues of Islam, which they are incapable to follow, no matter how scholarly they are, but to throw at them something very simplistic and logical. Generally they end up agreeing that Allah actually loves pigs, but yet get scared to say it. The turmoil and confusion they go thru is worth watching. They all said they will come back with an answer but they never do.”

I believe Sid has found an excellent way to combat Islam. As I previously said, by trying to disprove the claims of a fruitcake like Muhammad with philosophical and logical expostulations and remonstrations you give him importance. Muhammad was a crackpot. He needs to be laughed at not disproved.

This method is quite effective. Abul Fadael Golpayegani was a great Islamic scholar of the late 19^th century. It is said that once he went to fix his horse’s shoes. While the blacksmith was working on his horse, he asked the great mullah a few questions. First he asked: “Is it true that each drop of the rain is brought down by an angel?” “Yes”, responded Golpayegani, “that is true”. The man kept working and then asked “Is it true that where there is a dog, no angel enters”? “Yes, that is also true”, said the great mullah. “So who brings the rain that falls on the dogs”? asked the blacksmith. Golpayegani was taken aback and could not find an answer. As he shared this quandary with a friend, he was told that the man who asked him these questions was a Bahai and he should not pay much attention to him. Golpayegani instead became very curious and apparently this was what made him search the claim of Baha’is and convert to that religion. 

People don’t want to remain stupid deliberately. If Muslims are shown the stupidity of Islam they will leave it. Of course stupid people will stay Muslims and that is fine with us. But since the majority of Muslims are not stupid but play that role because they need to believe, most of them will leave Islam once it becomes evident that Islam is a hoax. We need cyberwarriors like Sid to sow the seeds of doubt in the minds of thinking Muslims. Once that seed is sown, there is nothing that can stop its growth. One doubt will lead to another and like domino all chips will start falling. All it takes is a seed of doubt. Sow that doubt in the minds of the Muslims and leave them. They will struggle for a while to find an answer but they will fail. In the process they will find more doubts and eventually the house of cards will fall and truth will triumph over blind faith.  

Another person used the same technique. It works! See here