A Debate between Dr. Pourhassan the Author of 

The Corruption of Moslims' Minds 

and Ali Sina 

Dear Dr. Sina:

Thank you so much again for this opportunity for me to put all my understanding and learning from the Koran into a debate with a worthy adversary.

I read some of your articles and so far I agree with almost everything you said about today’s Islam.  My book also claims today’s Islam has become corrupted by misinterpretation and offers little that encourages the advancement of individuals.  It has become a religion of hate, terror, and inhumanity. The difference between my approach and yours is that you believe the Islam that is practiced today is the product of the teachings of the Koran and therefore you mistakenly (in my opinion) conclude that it is the Koran itself which is incorrect.

You also vilify and malign the prophet Mohammad. In my humble opinion with all due respect this is not necessary. Maligning Mohammad as a sexual or anything else is not going to change the content of the Koran.  Many prophets made mistakes in their lives and yet God forgave them (i.e. prophets Davood, Yosef, and Yones). I respectfully disagree with most of the things you are saying about the prophet Mohammad, however I am not a historian.  Therefore with your permission I would like to go to the heart of the matter.

I will prove to the world of Islam that they have been taught everything backward: from the prayers, to the fasting, and to the fanaticism of killing for God. By debating with you about specific subjects we can learn from each other and progress logically, one step at a time.

Please let us not debate about who Mohammad was. This is not my specialty.  I am an expert in the Koran. Besides, the Koran was not written by Mohammed; it came through him from God.

I am more expert in the Koran than 1000 ayatollahs put together. I say this not because I think I am genius or a great man, but rather because I believe and the Koran has stated that this book is very clear and is easy to understand.

About being clear it says:  

(Koran; 12:1) “These are verses from the clear book (12:1)”

There are more than 35 similar verses.

About being easy to understand it says:

(Koran; 54:17) “ We have made the Koran easy for learning; yet will anyone learn from it?

There are more than 35 similar verses.

Of course the above quotes are not proof to you since you question the validity of the Koran itself but it is a proof to the Ayatollahs and so called religious leaders who claim the opposite.

According to the Koran, Moslems must accept the Bible just like the Koran (except for few minor corrections). And in the Bible, Jesus talks about the huge, terrible injustice the religious leaders have done to their religions.  In  Luke, chapter 11 verse 50-52, this is what Jesus told a religious authority of Jews:

“That the blood of all the prophets which was shed from the foundation of the world may be required of this generation – From the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah who perished between the altar and the temple.  Yes, I say to you, it shall be required of this generation – Woe to you lawyers! For you have taken away the key of knowledge.  You did not enter in yourselves, and those who were entering in you hindered.”

These crucial verses from the holy Bible show that all the points you are making about how religions, especially Islam, have become corrupted is not the fault of the prophets who brought them, but the fault of those who consider themselves leaders of the religions after the prophets.  They change the laws of God that came to us through prophets and pervert them to serve their own needs, no matter what those needs might be.

After going to your site http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/prologue.htm, I realize that you agonize in much the same way as I do. You cannot rationalize all these people believing in a religion that has nothing to offer and yet its followers believe fanatically that it has everything to offer.  The biggest difference between you and me is that you attack the prophet Mohammed’s character to show he was not even a prophet.

I do not do that and have great deal of respect for him. All the stories you quote in your site could be right or could be wrong, why waste our valuable time focusing on the prophet Mohammad. Let's get busy investigating his book that he left for humanity, a book that has caused millions to believe in this faith for 1400 years.

In my opinion you attack today’s Islam rightfully.  However you wrongfully take verses of the Koran out of context (I will show you examples later in the debate.) By doing this you are trying to disparage the Koran.

I also attack today’s Islam and disregard almost everything the current leaders claim. I show the true Koran by not interpreting its words but simply quoting all the verses about a given subject with out any prejudice or without taking verses out of context, and by so doing, I let the readers see clearly the Koran’s teachings for themselves.

In your article you have stated that politicians say “Islam is a religion of peace” just to be politically correct.  I believe going against something just because it is politically correct is the wrong way to find out about the truth. I believe many people want to be politically incorrect just to prove their openness to a given subject.  However, I don’t say this to prove or disprove your point about Islam being a religion of peace. I, too, like to think Islam is a religion of hate. But unlike you I think the Koran is a book of love and I will prove it.

In your response to me you said:
“So as you see I am very much surprised to see that you and I could read the same book and come to opposing conclusions. How is that possible? Naturally one of us is completely off the track. The question is which one of us is so mistaken. “

I believe both you and I agree that the form Islam has taken today has made this religion a religion that violates the human rights of the non-Muslims, denigrates women and breeds terrorists. These are all true but again you are seeing the problem differently than I do.

The problem is not the Koran (and we will let you and your honorable members be the judge whether I am misunderstanding the verses of the Koran that I quote or whether you are taking these verses out of their proper context.)

I will show some clear mistakes in your quotation of the Koran, but first let me also state that I am against any Hadith being the source of guidance. I believe the Koran when it claims to be a complete book for guidance. I would also add that no Hadith is needed to complete the Koran:

About the Koran being a complete book:

“ … We have sent the book down to you to explain everything, and for guidance and mercy … (16:89)”.  “In it [the Koran] every wise matter is set forth (44:3)” – There are more than ten similar verses.

About being against Hadith:

“Some men buy up some HADITH to mislead others from God’s way without having any knowledge …(31:6)". “In what HADITH, then, after (Koran), will they believe? (77:49)". - There are more than twenty-five verses like these.

Do you agree that the above verses clearly support the above statements I made?

You have taken verses out of their context from the Koran in your site as follows: “Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (Q; 2:191), murder them and treat them harshly (Q; 9:123), slay them (Q; 9:5), fight with them, (Q; 8:65 )”

About Q;2:191

You read this verse and concluded “Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them.”

I read this verse and the verses before it, so I don’t take things out of its context and I understand the following:

That Moslems (meaning those who believe in God and therefore the Koran claims Moses and Jesus and their followers are all Moslems) are allowed to fight with those who would fight them and warns them not to be oppressive in their fight but observe the laws of God (which are explained in Koran clearly and are laws of fairness). It urges Moslems to fight those who oppose them and drive them out of their houses as the opponents drove the Moslems out of their houses.  This is clearly a defensive fight. So when a country goes after people who are terrorists they are following this verse the best.

And now the honorable members of your site and yourself be the judge. I will quote the Koran verse 190 and 191 of chapter 2:

Q2:190

And fight in the way of God with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely God does not love those who exceed the limits.

Q2:191

And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the sacred mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers

Can anyone rationally make the mistake of thinking the above is urging Moslems to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them? This is only possible if we take “and fight in the way of God” out of its context.

By reading a little of the text before and after these verses you clearly see the Koran is only talking about the situation where the disbelievers are not allowing the believers to exercise their right to believe in God and are trying to kick them out of their houses on the basis of their religion and are killing them on the basis of their beliefs. So in this verse Hitler would be more like the disbelievers and the forces that killed Hitler become more like the believers. Or better example Osama Bin Laden becomes like the disbeliever and USA becomes more like the believers.  Please let me know if I am wrong.

Now all your quotations about killings are similar to the above.  I suggest for your members to read my book “The Corruption of Moslem Minds”, chapter 9, section 3.  I took all the verses that have killing in them or holy war and wrote them all and the verses themselves were clearly showing that killing is allowed only in defense, not offense.  Also I quote you some interesting verses that puts an end to all these speculations of how the Koran promotes violence.

Q;60:8

“God does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of your religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly; surely God loves the doers of justice.

Q;60:9

“God only forbids you respecting those who made war upon you on account of religion, and drove you forth from your homes and backed up in your expulsion, that you make friends with them, and whoever makes friends with them, these are the unjust.

Am I wrong to think that the Koran is a book of peace and love and also allows human to protect themselves against those who want to kill them?

Please look at the following verse and see how loving the Koran is commanding its followers to be:

Q;41:34

 “A good deed and an evil deed are not alike: repel evil with something that is finer, and notice how someone who is separated from you because of enmity will become a bosom friend!

Q41:35

“Yet only those who discipline themselves will attain it; only the very luckiest will achieve it!

My dear friend, we must be fair to these verses. They are clear indications that the Koran is a book that represents a religion of love and not hate.  In the Koran it has been stated more than 70 times that in order for Moslems to go to heaven you must believe in God and do good deeds.  The problems that clergymen have brought to the world of Islam is that they claim we must follow every verse of the Koran as interpreted by them and even the rules that were given to the Arabs 1400 years ago.  This is the problem.  The Koran says those who do not use their minds (unlike you and I) are the disbelievers.  I have written an article that shows the Koran claims that the disbelievers must have evil qualities to qualify as disbelievers just as the believers must have good qualities to prove they are believers.  It is my opinion that you are a believer even though you bash prophet Mohammad, because you are trying to think and use your mind.  Please note the following powerful verses about this:

Q;8:22

“The worst creatures before God are the deaf and dumb, those who do not use their minds."

Q;8:57

“The worst creatures before God are those who disbelieve and do not even want to believe."

See how these two above verses put those Moslems of the world, who blindly go and kill themselves for what they think is God’s path, among the disbelievers.  Believers are those who use their minds, because if you use your mind how could you not believe in God.

In the end I would like to apologize if in my writing I have offended you or anyone.  The last thing I want to do is to lose the opportunity of learning from a scholar like you.  I have no pride. I will accept whatever is fair and just, so please let us continue.

To continue our debate in a most effective way and for the sake of making our debate a great one, take one subject at a time that you think the Koran is wrong about and let me prove to you the opposite. If we are able to do this with one subject then we move on to the next one.

I think everyone who reads about a given religion, puts on their own glasses and they look at that religion through only those glasses. I like to remove my glasses and look at the Koran like it is and judge it with no prejudice. May God help me and everyone to do this.

Thank you.

Sincerely yours,

Nader Pourhassan  

Dear Dr. Pourhassan,

Thank you for your kind response. I can say from the start that our debate will be a fruitful one as I inhale from your words the fragrance of sincerity and the commitment to truth. This is a rare quality and so it is an honor for me to find a gem like you.

I am happy to see that you agree with me that Islam has become a religion of hate, terror and inhumanity. However I want to prove to you that no matter how bad you see today’s Islam, it is far better than what Muhammad brought. Hopefully at the end of this discussion you will agree with me that this tree is rotten from the core and Muhammad was not a messenger of God but a successful cult leader with no divine message. That he was driven by lust of power and hallucinations.

You objected that I vilify and malign Muhammad. You said it is not necessary maligning him as sexual or anything else. My honored friend, I have said that Muhammad was an immoral and unethical person. I said he was a highway robber, a marauding chieftain, an assassin, a mass murderer, a pervert, a pedophile, a narcissist and a schizophrenic. These are not libels. These are charges against him and I will prove to you each and every one of these charges and if you can show that I am mistaken on either one of them I will withdraw that charge and apologize for it. 

Muhammad is the subject of our discussion. He claimed to be a prophet of God and pretended that Allah praises him.

"And surely thou hast sublime morals" (Q. 68:4).

“Indeed in the Messenger of Allah you have a good example to follow" (Q. 33:21).

We sent thee not, but as a Mercy for all creatures. (Q. 21:107).
Verily this is the word of a most honorable Messenger, (Q. 81.19)

Since these claims are made in the Quran and since the character, honesty and state of the mind of Muhammad are key to giving any credibility to the Quran, we cannot ignore him and his character in our discussion of the Quran.  

Therefore I have to disagree with you when you say that the character of Muhammad should not be discussed. Those above verses are the claims of the Quran. Shouldn’t we analyze those claims?  

If Muhammad was just a mailman bringing to us a book sealed and signed from God and we all could see that the book is actually written and signed by God himself then you would be right. The Character of the mailman would have been irrelevant. However the Quran was not written by God. It was allegedly revealed to Muhammad. Those words came out of the mouth of Muhammad. Therefore we cannot overlook the character of the messenger. What if he was a liar? You take for granted that Muhammad was a truthful messenger of God and that Quran is the book of God even before we have a chance to study that book. The conclusion therefore is pre drawn. That is hardly a logical or a scientific approach.   

Then again if you part from such assumption that Quran is the book revealed by God, what else is left to discuss? Are we to become judges of the words of God? 

Our first task must be to establish whether Quran is from God or not and the first question we have to ask ourselves is whether the messenger is trustworthy or not. After proving to you that the messenger was a liar, I will also prove to you that the content of his message is asinine and it certainly cannot be the message from the creator of this universe.   

Is the Quran clear?  

You quoted a couple of verses of Muhammad claiming that Quran is clear and easy to understand. I am familiar with those claims. However are they true? 

There are many contradictory verses in the Quran that can be quite confusing. This ambiguity has allowed Muslims to have their personalized “divine guidance” based on their own preferences. Those who like tolerance or want to present Islam as a tolerant religion can quote parts of the Quran that advocate tolerance, while the hardliners, the fundamentalists and even the terrorists can quote those parts of the Quran that foment hate and killing of the disbelievers. Therefore ironically everyone can find what he is looking for in that book. And they call this the "miracle" of Quran! 

Let us compare some of the contradictory verses of the Quran:

In Surah 73:10 God tells Mohammad to be patient with his opponents,

"Be patient with what they say, and part from them courteously".

While in Surah 2:191 God orders him to kill his opponents,

"kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from wherever they drove you out."

In Surah 2:256 God tells Mohammad not to impose Islam by force,

"There is no compulsion in religion",

Then again in verse 193 He tells his messenger to kill whoever rejects Islam,

"Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's".

In Surah 29:45 God tells Mohammad to speak nicely to people of the Book (Christians and Jews),

"Argue with people of the book, other than evil doers, only by means of what are better! and say, we believe in what has been sent down to us and sent down to you. Our God is the same as your God, and we are surrendered to Him."

But in Surah 9:29 Allah tells him to fight the people of the Book,

"Fight those who do not believe in God and the last day... and fight People of the Book, who do not accept the religion of truth (Islam) until they pay tribute by hand, being inferior". 

Muhammad gives no justification for this discrepancy in the Quran and the change in Allah's mood from peaceful to militant and from conciliatory to confrontational. Muslim apologists in the West present selectively the kinder verses of the Quran or what is known as the Early Revelations. While the Muslim clerics preach the violent verses to their Muslim audience and claim that those softer verses of the Quran are abrogated and supplanted by the later revelations that contained the harsher verses. The reason given is, as Al Maudoody puts it: "Mohammad became strong enough to move from the stage of weakness to the stage of Jihad". 

For 13 years Muhammad preached in Mecca but less than 100 people accepted him. Meccans preferred Al Nadr, another storyteller to Muhammad’s boring warnings of hell. His irreverence to their gods angered the people. Eventually he migrated to Medina where he found a more receptive audience. His followers also joined him and he called them immigrants.  At first they were poor and used to work as journeymen in palm plantations of the Jews living in Medina. They used to give some of their food to Muhammad, who often dined on nothing but few dates.  The hardship of life in exile was unbearable to Muhammad. He was not interested in work. He had bigger plans. He started raiding the merchant caravans that were carrying goods from Damascus to Mecca. One of these raids that took place at Badr was a big success and the Prophet made a good fortune thereof. Then he planned other highway robberies and raiding villages. He distributed the booty, among those who took part in the battles and kept 20% for himself. He even made money threatening to kill his captives and released them only after receiving ransom. He assured his followers that if they fall in the battles, they would get more rewards in Paradise. Gradually his fortunes changed. He was no more a weak neglected preacher but a successful marauding chieftain who commanded absolute power over his followers.  With this change of fortune Muhammad's message also changed. Here is a comparison between some early verses he wrote in Mecca while weak and some that he wrote in Medina after becoming powerful. 

Some Muslim scholars have tried to explain this obvious dichotomy.

Dr. M. Khan the translator of Sahih Bukhari and the Quran into English writes:

"Allah revealed in Sura Bara'at (Repentance, IX) [the order to discard (all) obligations (covenants, etc), and commanded the Muslims to fight against all the Pagans as well as against the people of the Scriptures (Jews and Christians) if they do not embrace Islam, till they pay the Jizya (a tax levied on the Jews and Christians) with willing submission and feel themselves subdued (as it is revealed in 9:29). So the Muslims were not permitted to abandon "the fighting" against them (Pagans, Jews and Christians) and to reconcile with them and to suspend hostilities against them for an unlimited period while they are STRONG and have the ability to fight against them. So at first "the fighting" was forbidden, then it was permitted, and after that it was made obligatory  "[Introduction to English translation of Sahih Bukhari, p.xxiv.]

Q 9:5 reads: "Slay the idolaters wherever you find them"
So according to Dr. M. Khan in Q. 9:5 Allah ordered Mohammad to cancel all covenants and to fight the pagans, the Jews even the Christians. This is in contrast to what Muhammad wrote earlier.

"Thou wilt find the nearest of them in love to the believers [Muslims} are those who say 'We are Christians'" (Q. 5:82)

Dr. Khan continues:

The "Mujahideen who fight against the enemies of Allah in order that the worship should be all for Allah (alone and not for any other deity) and that the word is Allah's (i.e. none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and His religion Islam) should be upper most."

So first it was “There is no compulsion in religion” (Q. 2:265) and then

"O who believe! shall I direct you to a commerce that which will save you from a painful torment? That you believe in Allah and His Apostle (Mohammad), and that you strive hard and fight in the cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives. That will be better for you, if you but knew. If you do so He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into gardens of Eternity - that is the great success" (Q. 61:10-12)

Dr. Sobhy as-Saleh, a contemporary academic, does not see in Q. 2:256 and Q. 9:73 a case of abrogation but a case of delaying or postponing the command to fight the infidels. To support his view he quoted Imam Suyuti the author of Itqan Fi 'Ulum al- Qur'an who wrote:

“The command to fight the infidels was DELAYED UNTIL THE MUSLIMS BECOME STRONG, but when they were weak they were commanded to endure and be patient. [ Sobhy as_Saleh, Mabaheth Fi 'Ulum al- Qur'an, Dar al-'Ilm Lel-Malayeen, Beirut, 1983, p. 269.]

Dr. Sobhy, in a footnote, commends the opinion of a scholar named Zarkashi who said:

"Allah the most high and wise revealed to Mohammad in his weak condition what suited the situation, because of his mercy to him and his followers. For if He gave them the command to fight while they were weak it would have been embarrassing and most difficult, but when the most high made Islam victorious He commanded him with what suited the situation, that is asking the people of the Book to become Muslims or to pay the levied tax, and the infidels to become Muslims or face death. These two options, to fight or to have peace return according to the strength or the weakness of the Muslims."[ibid p. 270]


And Nahas writes:

"the scholars differed concerning Q. 2:256. (There is no compulsion if religion) Some said: 'It has been abrogated [cancelled] for the Prophet compelled the Arabs to embrace Islam and fought them and did not accept any alternative but their surrender to Islam. The abrogating verse is Q. 9:73 'O Prophet, struggle with the unbelievers and hypocrites, and be thou harsh with them.' Mohammad asked Allah the permission to fight them and it was granted. Other scholars said Q. 2:256 has not been abrogated, but it had a special application. It was revealed concerning the people of the Book [the Jews and the Christians]; they can not be compelled to embrace Islam if they pay the Jizia (that is head tax on free non-Muslims under Muslim rule). It is only the idol worshippers who are compelled to embrace Islam and upon them Q. 9:73 applies. This is the opinion of Ibn 'Abbas which is the best opinion due to the authenticity of its chain of authority."[ al-Nahas, An-Nasikh wal-Mansukh, p.80. See also Ibn Hazm al-Andalusi, A-Nnasikh wal-Mansukh, Dar al-Kotob al-'Elmeyah, birute, 1986, p.42.]

Ibn Hazm al-Andalusi writes:

"Fight in the way of God with those who fight with you, but aggress not: God loves not the aggressors (2:190)" On the authority of Ga'far ar-Razi from Rabi' Ibn 'Ons, from 'Abil-'Aliyah who said: This is the first verse that was revealed in the Qur'an about fighting in the Madina. When it was revealed the prophet used to fight those who fight with him and avoid those who avoid him, until Sura 9 was revealed. And so is the opinion of 'Abd ar-Rahman Ibn Zayd Ibn 'Aslam who said this verse was cancelled by 9:5 "Slay the idolaters wherever you find them"[ bn Hazm al-Andalusi, An-Nasikh wal- Mansukh, Dar al-Kotob al-'Elmeyah, birute, 1986, P.27]

For more on this subject see http://www.debate.domini.org/newton/tolerance.html,

Muhammad demanded from his followers to wage war against people of their own kin. And to justify his killing sprees he said, “oppression is worse than killing”. The following verse was revealed to incite the immigrants to kill their Meccan relatives because they "oppressed" them forcing them to flee Mecca.

Q. 2:191
You may kill those who wage war against you, and you may evict them whence they evicted you. Oppression is worse than murder. Do not fight them at the Sacred Masjid, unless they attack you therein. If they attack you, you may kill them. This is the just retribution for those disbelievers. 

In fact the Meccans were not sympathetic to Muslims. They mocked and teased them but never killed anyone for accepting Islam. The Meccans were polytheists. Polytheism by its nature is tolerant of other beliefs. Only in Ka’na there were 360 gods, each being the patron protector of a different tribe. Apart from the pagan religions, there were Jews, Christians, Sabeans and Zoroastrians who lived in Hijaz and not only practiced but also preached their religion freely. The reason the Meccans were upset of Muhammad was not because he was teaching an new religion but because he was insulting their (the Meccans) religion and was disrespectful of their beliefs. The reaction of the Meccans was justifiable and normal. 

On the other hand Muhammad could not tolerate anyone making fun of him. What did Muhammad do to those who mocked HIM? He sent assassins to kill them.  

The contradictions in the Quran are not limited to those verses quoted above. This book is full of inconsistencies and errancies.

Here are a few of them:

1. And it just doesn't add up: Sura 4:11-12 and 4:176 state the Qur'anic inheritance law. When a man dies, and is leaving behind three daughters, his two parents and his wife, they will receive the respective shares of 2/3 for the 3 daughters together, 1/3 for the parents together [both according to verse 4:11] and 1/8 for the wife [4:12] which adds up to more than the available estate. A second example: A man leaves only his mother, his wife and two sisters, then they receive 1/3 [mother, 4:11], 1/4 [wife, 4:12] and 2/3 [the two sisters, 4:176], which again adds up to 15/12 of the available property.
2. How many angels were talking to Mary? When the Qur'an speaks about the announciation of the birth of Jesus to the virgin Mary, Sura 3:42,45 speaks about (several) angels while it is only one in Sura 19:17-21.
3. Further numerical discrepancies Does Allah's day equal to 1,000 human years (Sura 22:47, 32:5) or 50,000 human years (Sura 70:4)? --- How many gardens are there in paradise? ONE [as stated in 39:73, 41:30, 57:21, 79:41] or MANY [18:31, 22:23, 35:33, 78:32]? --- According to Sura 56:7 there will be THREE distinct groups of people at the Last Judgement, but 90:18-19, 99:6-8, etc. mention only TWO groups. --- There are conflicting views on who takes the souls at death: THE Angel of Death [32:11], THE angels (plural) [47:27] but also "It is Allah that takes the souls (of men) at death." [39:42]
   Angels have 2, 3, or 4 pairs of wings [35:1]. But Gabriel had 600 wings. [Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 455]
4. How many days did Allah need to destroy the people of Aad? One day [54:19] or several days [41:16; 69:6,7]
5. Six or eight days of creation? Sura 7:54, 10:3, 11:7, and 25:59 clearly state that God created "the heavens and the earth" in six days. But in 41:9-12 the detailed description of the creation procedure adds up to eight days.
6. Quick or Slow Creation? Allah creates the heavens and the earth in six days [7:54] and many Muslims want to be modern and scientific, and make that six eons, but then again, He creates instantaneously [2:117], "Be! And it is".
7. Heavens or Earth? Which was created first? First earth and then heaven [2:29], heaven and after that earth [79:27-30].
8. Calling together or ripping apart? In the process of creation heaven and earth were first apart and are called to come together [41:11], while 21:30 states that they were originally one piece and then ripped apart.
9. What was man created from? A blood clot [96:1-2], water [21:30, 24:45, 25:54], "sounding" (i.e. burned) clay [15:26], dust [3:59, 30:20, 35:11], nothing [19:67] and this is then denied in 52:35, earth [11:61], a drop of thickened fluid [16:4, 75:37]
10. Fully Detailed Or Incomplete? The Qur'an claims for itself to be (fully) detailed, that nothing is left out of the book [6:38, 6:114, 12:111, 16:89 etc.]. However there are plenty of important issues which are left unclear in the Qur'an. This article discusses the confusion found in the quranic statements on wine.
11. To Intercede or Not To Intercede? - That is the Question! The Qur'an makes contradictory statements whether on the Day of Judgment intercession will be possible. No: [2:122-123, 254; 6:51; 82:18-19; etc.]. Yes: [20:109; 34:23; 43:86; 53:26; etc.]. Each position can be further supported by ahadith.
12. Where is Allah and his throne? Allah is nearer than the jugular vein [50:16], but he is also on the throne [57:4] which is upon the water [11:7], and at the same time so far away, that it takes between 1,000 and 50,000 years to reach reach him [32:5, 70:4].
13. The origin of calamity? Is the evil in our life from Satan [38:41], Ourselves [4:79], or Allah [4:78]?
14. How merciful is Allah's mercy? He has prescribed mercy for himself [6:12], yet he does not guide some, even though he could [6:35, 14:4].
15. Will there be inquiry in Paradise? "neither will they question one another" [23:101] but nevertheless they will be "engaging in mutual inquiry" [52:25], "and they will ... question one another" [37:27].
16. Are angels protectors? "NO protector besides Allah" [2:107, 29:22]. But in Sura 41:31 the angels themselves say: "We are your protectors in this life and the Hereafter." And also in other suras is their role described as guarding [13:11, 50:17-18] and protecting [82:10].
17. Is everything devoutly obedient to Allah? That is the claim in 30:26, but dozens of verses speak of the proud disobedience of Satan [7:11, 15:28-31, 17:61, 20:116, 38:71-74, 18:50] as well of many different human beings who reject His commands and His revelations.
18. Does Allah forgive shirk? Shirk is considered the worst of all sins, but the author of the Qur'an seems seems unable to decide if Allah will ever forgive it or not. No [4:48, 116], Yes [4:153, 25:68-71]. Abraham committed this sin of polytheism as he takes moon, sun, stars to be his Lord [6:76-78], yet Muslims believe that all prophets are without any sin.
19. The event of worship of the golden calf: The Israelites repented about worshipping the golden calf BEFORE Moses returned from the mountain [7:149], yet they refused to repent but rather continued to worship the calf until Moses came back [20:91]. Does Aaron share in their guilt? No [20:85-90], yes [20:92, 7:151].
20. Was Jonah cast on the desert shore or was he not? "Then We cast him on a desert shore while he was sick" [37:145] "Had not Grace from his Lord reached him, he would indeed have been cast off on the naked shore while he was reprobate." [68:49]
21. Moses and the Injil? Jesus is born more than 1,000 years after Moses, but in 7:157 Allah speaks to Moses about what is written in the Injil [the book given to Jesus].
22. Can slander of chaste women be forgiven? Yes [24:5], No [24:23].
23. How do we receive the record on Judgment Day? On Judgement day the lost people are given the Record (of their bad deeds): Behind their back [84:10], or in their left hand [69:25].
24. Can angels disobey? No angel is arrogant, they all obey Allah [16:49-50], but: "And behold, we said to the ANGELS: 'Bow down to Adam'. And THEY bowed down, EXCEPT Iblis. He refused and was haughty." [2:34].
25. Three contradictions in 2:97 and 16:101-103 Who brings the revelation from Allah to Muhammad? The ANGEL Gabriel [2:97], or the Holy Spirit [16:102]? The new revelation confirms the old [2:97] or substitutes it [16:101]? The Qur'an is PURE Arabic [16:103] but there are numerous foreign, non-Arabic words in it.
26. The infinite loop problem Sura 26:192,195,196: "It (the Qur'an) is indeed a revelation from the Lord of the Worlds, ... in clear Arabic speech and indeed IT (the Qur'an) is in the writings of the earlier (prophets)." Now, the 'earlier writings' are the Torah and the Injil for example, written in Hebrew and Greek. HOW can an ARABIC Qur'an be contained in books of other languages? Furthermore, it would have to contain this very passage of the Qur'an since the Qur'an is properly contained in them. Hence these earlier writings have to be contained in yet other earlier writings and we are in an infinite loop, which is absurd.
27. "An old woman" and God's character About the story of Lot: "So we delivered him and his family, - all exept an old woman who lingered behind." [Sura 26:170-171] And again: "But we saved him and his family, exept his wife: she was of those who lagged behind. [Sura 7:83]. Either this is a contradiction or if indeed Lot's wife is derogatorily called "an old woman" then this does not show much respect for her as a wife of a prophet.
28. More problems with the story of Lot "And his people gave NO answer but this: They said, "Drive them out of your city: these are indeed men who want to be clean and pure!" [Sura 7:82 & 27:56]. Yet: "But his people gave NO answer but this: They said: "Bring us the Wrath of Allah if thou tellest the truth." [Sura 29:29]. Obviously these answers are different.
29. The "pleasure" of Allah? Is God's action of punishment or mercy and guidance or misguidance arbitrary?
30. Did Abraham smash the idols? The accounts of Abraham, Suras 19:41-49, 6:74-83 differ quite a bit from Sura 21:51-59. While in Sura 21 Abraham confronts his people strongly, and even destroys the idols, in Sura 19 Abraham shuts up after his father threatens him to stone him for speaking out against the idols. And he seems not only to become silent, but even to leave the area ("turning away from them all").
31. What about Noah's son? According to Sura 21:76, Noah and his family is saved from the flood, and Sura 37:77 confirms that his seed survived. But Sura 11:42-43 reports that Noah's son drowns.
32. Was Noah driven out? "Before them *the people of Noah* rejected (their messenger): They rejected Our servant and said, 'Here is One possessed!' And he was driven out." [Sura 54:9] Now, if he is driven out [expelled from their country] how come they can scoff at him while he is buiding the ark since we read "Forthwith he (starts) constructing the Ark: Every time that the Chiefs of *his people* passed by him, they threw ridicule on him." [Sura 11:38] He cannot be both: Driven out and near enough that they can regularly pass by.
33. Pharaoh's Magicians: Muslims or Rejectors of Faith? Did the Magicians of Pharaoh, Egyptians, become believers in the God of Moses [7:103-126; 20:56-73; S. 26:29-51] or did only Israelites believe in Moses [10:83]?
34. Pharaoh's repentance in the face of death? According to Sura 10:90-92, Pharaoh repented "in the sight of death" and was saved. But Sura 4:18 says that such a thing can't happen.
35. Abrogation? "The words of the Lord are perfect in truth and justice; there is NONE who can change His words." [Sura 6:115] Also see 6:34 and 10:64. But then Allah (Muhammad?) sees the need to exchange some of them for "better ones" [Sura 2:106, 16:101]. And it is not for ignorant people to question Allah because of such practices!
36. Guiding to truth? "Say: 'God - He guides to the truth; and which is worthier to be followed ...?" [Sura 10:35] But how much is left over of this worthiness when we also read: "Allah leads astray whom he pleases, and he guides whom He pleases, ..." [Sura 14:4]. And how do we know in which of Allah's categories of pleasure we fall? How sure can a Muslim be that he is one of those guided right and not one of those led astray?
37. What is the punishment for adultery? Flogging with a 100 stripes (men and women) [24:2], "confine them to houses until death do claim them (lifelong house arrest - for the women) [4:15]. For men: "If they repent and amend, leave them alone" [4:16]. 24:2 contradicts both the procedure for women and men in Sura 4. And why is the punishment for women and men equal in Sura 24 but different in Sura 4?
38. Will Christians enter Paradise or go to Hell? Sura 2:62 and 5:69 say "Yes", Sura 5:72 (just 3 verses later) and 3:85 say "No".
39. God alone or also men? Clear or incomprehensible? The Qur'an is "clear Arabic speech." [16:103] Yet "NONE knows its interpretation, save only Allah." [3:7]. Actually, "men of understanding do grasp it." [3:7]
40. Was Pharaoh Drowned or Saved when chasing Moses and the Israelites? Saved [10:92], drowned [28:40, 17:103, 43:55].
41. When Commanded Pharaoh the Killing of the Sons? When Moses was a Prophet and spoke God's truth to Pharaoh [40:23-25] or when he was still an infant [20:38-39]?
42. When/how are the fates determined? "The night of power is better than a thousand months. The angels and spirit descend therein, by the permission of their Lord, with all decrees." [97:3,4] "Lo! We revealed it on a blessed night." [44:3] To Muslims, the "Night of Power" is a blessed night on which fates are settled and on which everything relating to life, death, etc., which occurs throughout the year is decreed. It is said to be the night on which Allah's decrees for the year are brought down to the earthly plane. In other words, matters of creation are decreed a year at a time. Contradicting this, Sura 57:22 says, "No affliction befalls in the earth or in your selves, but it is in a Book before we create it." This means it is written in the Preserved Tablet, being totally fixed in Allah's knowledge before anyone was created. All of the above is contradicted by "And every man's fate We have fastened to his own neck." This says that man alone is responsible for what he does and what happens to him. [17:13]
43. Wine: Good or bad? Strong drink and ... are only an infamy of Satan's handiwork. [5:90, also 2:219]. Yet on the other hand in Paradise are rivers of wine [47:15, also 83:22,25]. How does Satan's handiwork get into Paradise?
44. Good News of Painful Torture? Obviously, annoucing torment and suffering to anyone is bad news, not good news. However, the Qur'an announces the good news of painful torment [3:21, 4:138, 9:3, 9:34, 31:7, 45:8, and 84:24].
45. Will all Muslims go to Hell? According to Sura 19:71 every Muslim will go to Hell (for at least some time), while another passage states that those who die in Jihad will go to Paradise immediately.
46. Will Jesus burn in Hell? Jesus is raised to Allah, [Sura 4:158], near stationed with him [Sura 3:45], worshiped by millions of Christians, yet Sura Sura 21:98 says, that all that are worshiped by men besides Allah will burn in Hell together with those who worship them.
47. Jinns and men created for worship or for Hell? Created only to serve God [Sura 51:56], many of them made for Hell [Sura 7:179].
48. Who is the father of Jesus? A more involved argument that is difficult to summarize in one sentence.
49. Begetting and Self-sufficiency A self-contradiction on account of confused terminology.
50. Could Allah have a son? Sura 39:4 affirms and Sura 6:101 denies this possibility.
51. Did Jesus Die already? Surah 3:144 states that all messengers died before Muhammad. But 4:158 claims that Jesus was raised to God (alive?).
52. One Creator or many? The Qur'an uses twice the phrase that Allah is "the best of creators" [23:14, 37:125]. What other creators are in mind? On the other hand, many verses make clear that Allah alone is "the creator of all things" [e.g. 39:62]. There is nothing left for others to be a creator of.
53. From among all nations or from Abraham's seed? Surah 29:27 states that all prophets came Abraham's seed. But 16:36 claims that Allah raised messengers from among every people.
54. Marrying the wives of adopted sons? It is important that Muslims can marry the divorced wives of adopted sons [Sura 33:37], yet it is forbidden to adopt sons [Sura 33:4-5].
55. Messengers were never sent to other than their own people? So it is claimed in Sura 14:4 and 30:47. However, the Bible and the Qur'an, and the Muslim traditions confirm that Jonah was sent to a different nation.
56. Messengers Amongst the Jinns and Angels? Allah sent only men as messengers [Suras 12:109, 21:7-8, 25:20-21] but there seemingly are messengers from Jinns and Angels [6:130; 11:69,77; 22:75; etc., see article for details].
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Are Hadith necessary?  

You wrote “I am against any Hadith being the source of guidance. I believe the Koran when it claims to be a complete book for guidance. I would also add that no Hadith is needed to complete the Koran”  

I agree with you that it is a mistake to take Hadith as a source of guidance. Hadiths were collections of the stories about Muhammad and they are not the revealed words of God. So they should not have been taken as sources of guidance. However they are the sources of information about Muhammad. They are the only history left of the prophet. Although the Hadith should not be taken as the source of guidance, they have historic value. Also understanding the Quran without the clarification of the Hadith is impossible.

There are two categories of Muslims. Those who accept the authenticity of the Quran and the Hadith with no ifs or buts, and those who deny the Hadith, partially or totally and try to reinterpret the Quran in ways completely opposite to its apparent meaning, so that it become acceptable to a reasonable mind. 

For 1200 years Bukhari’s collection of hadith wa