Leaving Islam




The Muslims in the West 


From:  mark harding <[email protected]
To:  [email protected] 
Date:  Fri, 04 May 2001 10:18:48 -0400

  dear Friend I live in Canada and we have Muslim students who have special privileges in our school system to pray and hold rituals during regular class's . The Muslim parents and a Muslim on the board at school have suggested that these friday prayers in the afternoon can not be missed . A friend of mine is very sure that Islam allows this afternoon prayer to be said in the morning or in the evening if missed. Is there such a teaching in the Koran or in the Hadiths that teaches this?

Thank you

Rev M Harding

P.S , Im sending you a letter that we have sent to the education minister recently


The Canadian Association of Christian Evangelists
36 (unit A) Sykes St. , Meaford Ontario N4L 1V7
April 25/01
Janet Ecker Minister of Education
Mowat Block 900 Bay St.
Queens Park Toronto Ontario



Regarding : Special Privileges given to Muslim Students in Ontario.

Greetings your Honorable Minister.

Thank you for your response of March 19th 01 . My apologies for the delay , however the Post Office has been sending our Mail to our Old address even with the new address on it .

Minister Ecker , are we to understand then , from your correspondence,

That you fully acknowledge this situation is happening? Do you then understand this law? as you seem to be well rehearsed in the law , by which your letter to me states that it is against the law , and I quote you here , "that it is against the law for any student to have any religious exercises and or religious instruction , during the instructional program of each school day” . Yet Minister , you seem to be confused about this law. For in the same letter you have stated and I quote once more , "Nevertheless , an area of the school can be set aside to accommodate Muslim students whose religion, Islam , requires all of its faithful to engage in ritual prayer at specific times of each day",  Would you kindly allow us to know were this provision has been made so that we may look at it ?

Also , could you please inform us if any provision has been made to prohibit “ the families “ of Muslim students from attending these RITUALS and PRAYERS , which are been held on school property, during regular class room instruction. By families we mean brothers , sisters , aunts , uncles , fathers or mothers who may be living close to the school but can't get to their Mosque . We also desire the names of all schools who currently are practicing Islamic Religious Exercises and Religious Instruction during the Schools Instructional Program on a day that is a school day. This would help in our lawyers understanding of the situation .


Thank you for your cooperation .

Rev. M. Harding.
Canadian Director.
fax # (519) 538-3456 
CC: All M.P.P.s in Ont.

All Members .



Dear Rev. Harding. 

Saying the congregational prayer has 27 times more reward than saying it individually and it is highly recommended. Missing the obligatory prayers intentionally in Islam is a sin. However if a prayer is missed it can be replaced. 

But I have problem with this whole issue. My question is why should we bend our rules and regulations to suit the religious exigencies of a certain group? Canada is run by secular laws and though we respect everyone’s belief it is not required of us to bend the rules to appease anyone. 

If Muslims demand the school to make exceptions for them to perform their rituals how we can refuse the same privileges from other religious groups who may have other rituals, holydays and costumes? In a multicultural, multifaith society like ours this would mean mayhem. New immigrants must be told that in Rome do as Romans do and in Canada you follow the established rules of the country. 

To try to appease every religious group and placate to their absurd demands under the pretext of religion is a dangerous game we play. What if some of these religious costumes and obligations are absolutely against every fiber that makes this country a civilized one? What if a person demands performing female genital circumcision/mutilationon his daughter because his religion demands so? What if someone decides to beat his wife if he finds her disobedient and produce a verse from Quran authorizing him to do so? If you think I am exaggerating read this.

Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, AND SCOURGE THEM. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.” (Q. 4:34,)

In Islamic countries the laws of Quran supercede every other law. That is why despite the fact that almost all the Islamic countries are signatory to the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights, they are all gross violators of human rights. But in Canada we should not let that happen. We should not let any religious law take precedence over our secular laws. We should not allow any religious law change the fabric of our society. Once you bend one rule and allow a religious group to have their way  you have opened the floodgate and step by step religions take over and we lose our freedom.  

I do not feel comfortable to work in the same office with a Sikh who wears his “ceremonial” dagger. I am not pleased to see an RCMP officer wearing a turban. I also do not believe we should make any especial concession to any religious group and give them especial privileges that others do not have. Today Muslims demand especial concessions for their prayer rituals. The problem is that they are growing in number. Not that Islam is growing as a religion. This is a fallacy that Muslims love to tell. There are more people leaving Islam than embracing it. But the number of Muslims in the West is on the rise because of the new immigrants. Muslims who hate the Western world and do not hide their despise of it in all their slogans, give an arm and a leg to come here and live amongst the infidels because life is much more pleasant and promising here. Thanks to our open door policies Muslims are steadily growing in Canada, US and Europe. Although a great number of these immigrants adopt Western way of life once they come here, and blend into the society there is a group of them that don’t. This hardcore minority uses the statistics of the big number of the Muslims in the West, majority of whom do not care to be Muslims any more, to gain political power for themselves.   

One thing must be clear to everyone and that is the ultimate goal of every Muslim is to make Islam a universal religion. Islam has grown through Jihad (holy war). Fighting to impose Islam is what was prescribed in the Quran.  Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing, which is good for you (Q.2:216)   And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere.(Q. 8:39,)

Of course today the world will not sit idle letting an Islamic country invade another nation and convert its citizens at gunpoint. Those days that Islam grew by invading towns, killing their men, enslaving their women and selling them as sex slaves, then forcing Islam on them are gone (although we sill hear news of such atrocities in Indonesia, Philippines, Sudan and other places). Now the Muslims expand their religion first by "good speech" (Q. 2: 83) and sound almost like Christian missionaries. But that mask will come down as soon as they gain power and realize that they can win the battle by terrorizing people. This technique was used by the holy Prophet himself who while in Mecca and weak would invite his followers to "Be patient with what they [the unbelievers] say, and part from them courteously" (Q..73: 10). He would warn them not to compel the unbelievers (Q. 50: 45) and urge them to be patient with them (Q. 20: 103 ). But all that sweet talk changed when the Prophet became powerful after he invaded few merchant caravans and enriched himself and his followers with the booty. Then those peaceful talks changed into cries of killing and plundering. Then he ordered to slay the idolaters wherever ye catch them” (Q.  2:191), and to “instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them  (Q. 8:12)

At first the Prophet was friendly with the Jews and he even chose Jerusalem as his quibla. He also was merciful towards the Christians as one can see in these verses.

"Surely they that believe, and those of Jewry, and the Sabaeans, and those of the Christians, whosoever believes in God and the Last Day, and works righteousness no fear shall be on them, neither shall they sorrow." (Q.5: 69)


"Thou wilt find the nearest of them in love to the believers [Muslims} are those who say 'We are Christians'"  (Q. 5:82)

But all that changed when he became powerful. Then Allah forgot what he had told in the above verses and ordered: 

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. (Q . 9:29)

You may say what is the relevance of what happened 1400 yeas ago to our situation in Canada today? But this is the whole point. If we let Islam grow in the West, Muslims will eventually take arms and will take away our freedom. If you ask this from a Muslim he would deny it angrily but this is exactly what he is dreaming. A Muslim’s only objective is to establish Islam as the world power. In Islam power and religion cannot be separate.

Dr. M. Khan the translator of Sahih Bukhari and the Quran into English writes:

"Allah revealed in Sura Bara'at (Repentance, IX) [the order to discard (all) obligations (covenants, etc), and commanded the Muslims to fight against all the Pagans as well as against the people of the Scriptures (Jews and Christians) if they do not embrace Islam, till they pay the Jizia (a tax levied on the Jews and Christians) with willing submission and feel themselves subdued (as it is revealed in 9:29). So the Muslims were not permitted to abandon "the fighting" against them (Pagans, Jews and Christians) and to reconcile with them and to suspend hostilities against them for an unlimited period while they are STRONG and have the ability to fight against them. So at first "the fighting" was forbidden, then it was permitted, and after that it was made obligatory  "[Introduction to english translation of Sahih Bukhari, p.xxiv.]

Conquering the world for Islam is what is in the minds of all the militant Muslims. What is happening in Indonesia, Philippines and Kashmir should be a warning to all freedom lovers in the West.

The next important point to consider is how religious minorities fare in Islamic countries. Do Christians, Jews, Baha’is and Zoroastrians have the same rights that the Muslims have?  Muslims in the West enjoy from the same rights and privileges that other citizens do. But that is not enough. They still want more. They want their holy days be recognized, they want schools, government offices and even factories change their work schedule to make room for them and their prayer rituals. Do not think that this they do for religious reasons but for gaining foot holes and establishing their dominance. This is all part of the political game towards dominance. But above all Muslims want everyone shut up and never mention a word against their religion or they will sue you for religious hatemongering. Do they respect other religions? Do the minorities have any rights in the countries that Islam is the rule of the land? 

The non-Muslims in Islamic countries are not allowed to preach their religion and convert anyone. If a Muslim becomes a Christian or a Baha’i, he will be put to death along with the person who has converted him. A Muslim man may marry a non-Muslim but if a Muslima (Muslim woman) marry a non-Muslim man both of them must be killed. The reason for this lays in the misogynistic nature of Islam that has no regards for the rights of the woman that considers woman to be the property of the man and assumes that a woman should automatically follow the religion of her husband. Therefore if a non-Muslim woman marry a Muslim man, it is a gain for Islam but if a Muslima marry a non-Muslim man she will abandon the fold and it is a loss for Islam. 

The non-Muslims may not build their houses higher than the Muslims. They may not walk in the streets in the rainy days least they defile a Muslim. The life of a non-believer is not worth that of a believer and if a Muslim kill a non-believer he could not be killed for that. The testimony of a non-believer against a Muslim is not admitted in the court, so if a Muslim attack a nonbeliever and no other Muslim is found to witness, neither the victim nor other non-Muslims who have witnessed the assault may testify. The Christians and the Jews do not have to be killed and forced to convert, but they have to pay a penalty tax called Jizyah. This Jizyah can be as high as half of the income of these non-Muslims. This was the amount that the prophet exacted from the Jews of Kheibar after he attacked that town, killed their men, robbed their belongings and divided their young women amongst his soldiers keeping Safiyah the prettiest of them for himself, whom he raped in the same day that he murdered her husband and many of her relatives. Her father he had decapitated before.

What rights Muslims give to the minorities in the countries where they are the majority? The ruling of the Talibans that the HIndus in Afghanistan should wear a yellow badge on their cloths to distinguish themselves from the Muslims is not a misinterpretation of what Muhammad taught. May be we should ask these Muslims who want so many extra privilages to maintain and practice their religion in the West to tell us how they deal with the Christians and other religious minorities in their country of origin. May be we should ask these zealot Muslims to tell us what rights Muhammad gave to the religious minorities in his Quran. The answer is none. Muhammad did not give the minorities to even believe in their faiths in private. He wrote: 

"Whoso desires another religion than Islam, it shall not be accepted of him; in the next world he shall be among the losers." (Q. 3: 85)

These are the teachings that Muslims believe. How do they dare to demand extra favors to practice their religion here? May be we should tell these devout Muslims that before asking for extra privileges they should denounce the inhumane teachings of Quran and demand the improvement of the human rights and the rights of the minorities in the Islamic countries that they love and defend so much. If they are not happy with our laws, may be we should ask them whether they prefer to be dealt the way Quran orders to deal with the minorities!

Islam is suffocating the Muslims and they cannot stand it anymore, that is why they come here in such big numbers. But when they come here they want to convert these free lands into Islamic lands. In other words Muslims want to have freedom to promote intolerance. What a joke!

A friend of mine wrote:
“A few weeks ago, I met a friend of mine who had spent a lengthy period in Saudi Arabia. Although not a fundamentalist Islamist, he is quite a religious person. He told me that recently he went to Bangladesh and got his daughter married there. Now he is trying to bring his brand new son-in-law to Australia as a spouse of his daughter. I was very curious to know why is it that her daughter did not follow her husband to Bangladesh so that the new couple could raise a family in a proper Islamic environment. His answer was quite interesting. He said, "When we are in an Islamic society (like Bangladesh or Saudi Arabia), we do not like Islam. We like Islam when we are in a non-Islamic society (like Australia)". I must appreciate his honesty in telling his inner feelings about Islam. Is not his statement a great tribute to all the secularists and the freethinkers of the world?”

Let us not let our guards down. Islamic expansionism is a danger that could threaten our freedom even in Canada. The Muslims are coming in big numbers. Though most of them will integrate into the society and blend with the rest, a more militant group of them, those who insist to maintain their religion and insist to bend the rules to cater to their way of life will want to convert this country into Islam. These Muslims will never become patriotic Canadians. Their allegiance is with their own people. They will side with Muslim terrorists like Saddam Hussein before they side with a kafir nation like Canada and USA. They will not mix with non-Muslims and will never be part of the Canadian Mosaic. Befriending the non-believers is against the teachings of Quran.  

"Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah. except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (to fear) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah." (Q. 3: 28)

A Muslim is encouraged to hate even his own father and brothers if they are a not Muslims. 

"O ye who believe! take not for protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love Infidelity above Faith: if any of you do so, they do  wrong". (Q. 9: 23)

Instead a Muslim is required to: 

“Fight them on until there is no more tumult and religion becomes that of Allah” (Q.2: 193)

It is obvious that with these teachings of Quran, a true Muslim will never love Canad long as the majority of the Canadians remain kafir. Those good people who happen to be born in Islamic families and do call themselves with this name but love others and do not hate anyone, are not aware of these teachings and do not follow them. They generally do not believe in Islam and therefore are not asking especial favors, and are not demanding the government to change the rules to accommodate their religious customs.  By standing against the absurd demands of the militant Muslims, we are not offending the majority of the Muslims who do not even pray and want to live like other Canadians and be part of this country. 

The above verses are just a sample. Quran is replete with teachings of hate. But that is enough for you to see that the strength of the Muslims in this country and the growth of their number will eventually divide this nation and strives will follow. A mighty nation like India was torn apart in three pieces thanks to Islam and bloodshed and strife is the order of the day in almost all Islamic countries. Is this what we want to happen in Canada? To believe that this is not going to happen here is just hiding our heads in the sand.

It is a shame that some politicians are willing to sell our most cherished values of civil liberties and would give concessions to intolerant religious groups to promote their messages of hate against other religions just to get some votes. These unscrupulous or otherwise uninformed politicians must be exposed so others can make a better informed decision when they go to vote. They must learn that they cannot play with our freedom and support hatemongering religious cults just to get few more votes. Islam is a religion that advocates hate and that is clear from the teachings of Quran and the hadith. The message of Islam is diametrically in contrast to our Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. If the honorable minister or anyone else is in doubt he may see it for himself in this link. http://www.secularislam.org/humanrights/compatible.htm

No Canadian institution should support the advancement of Islam in this country. This would be a gross violation of our laws and should not be tolerated. We allow everyone to have his belief and practice his religion, even neo-nazis can enjoy form this freedom. But if a government official or worse a minister is found to giving especial concessions to these hatemongering groups that clearly are set to destroy the very Charter of Rights we hold so dear, that minister must answer for his actions to his constituents as he is clearly violating the constitution.  

Let me reiterate once more: Most Muslims do not know about all these hate teachings of Quran. They call themselves Muslims but leave a decent life hurting no one. It is those Muslims who fight to make Islam strong, who are militant Muslims, and those who are fanatically religious are endangering the peace and security of this country. If they are "good" Muslims, they will want to live according to the teachings of Quran and those teachings are contrary to the interests of those of us who believe in equality and respect human rights.

At first Muslims will use  “good words” to convince you. But soon after they have some power, they will deploy bombs. These Muslims will take away your kids and convert them into killing machines. They will instill hate into them until you will not recognize your own child. I received an email from an American mother that brought tears to my eyes. She wrote that her son became a Muslim when he was only 15-years-old, this child was an "all-American" sweet boy, so kind hearted that his eyes swelled with tears when he read the story of the slavery in America. But after eight years of brain washing amongst the Muslims, he now supports the slavery in Sudan, only thinks of Jihad and has told her that if they were in an Islamic country, he would endorse her execution because she is a kafir. I have asked her to write her story, as I believe her testimony will be of great help to many parents. People must know in time that Islam is not a religion but a dangerously overgrown cult.

Isn't it funny that a religion which says the unbelievers are Najes (impure) and orders the Muslims to prohibit their access to certain Islamic places (Q.9: 28) and instructs its followers to "Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the last day... and fight People of the Book, (Christians and the Jews) who do not accept the religion of truth (Islam) until they pay (Jizyah= a penalty tax) tribute by hand, feeling subdued and inferior" (Q.9: 29) now its followers have the audacity to come and demand these very "impure" infidels to help them teach their hate message to their kids? What a shameful irony! 



Dr. Ali Sina

May 2001



From:  "The Canadian Association of Christian Evangelists" <[email protected]
To:  [email protected] 
Subject:  Re: Muslims in the West
Date:  Sat, 05 May 2001 09:13:08 -0400


Dear Ali , 

thank you for your reply. Could you please help me further however in telling me were I might find the suras for missing fridays afternoon prayer ? This is very important to our case toward the education minister who is not aware that this prayer that Muslim students interrupt the regular school class's during the day, can in fact be said in the evening according to Islamic teachings . If I could prove this was so then maybe we have a good chance of putting an end , or at least , a temporary halt to these Islamic rituals and prayers in our schools.

Thank you again and I look forward to hearing from you.

Rev. M Harding

P.S , May I use your writing's to forward to others who are in this battle to stop These Prayers ?



Dear Mark.

The following is what I dug out from the Islamic sites. I included the links so anyone can check it out with a click of a mouse. You are free to use my writings as you please. 

The mandate for congregational prayer on Friday is expressed in this verse.

 "O you who believe! when the call is made for prayer on Friday, then hasten to the remembrance of Allah and leave off trading; that is better for you, if you know." (Q. 62:9)

But there is a discrepancy whether this is Fardh (obligatory) or Mustehab (meritorious). 


In another Islamic site it is clearly stated that the congregational prayer is Mustahab, which means meritorious and not obligatory. 

313- To participate in congregational prayer is Mustahab, especially for those persons who live in the neighbourhood of a mosque



Sheikh Abdullah Al-Sabt laments:

“what has aided in the desertion of the mosques is that which is frequently boasted by ad vising brothers saying that salat al-jama'ah is a sunnah mu'akkadah (confirmed regular practice of the Prophet SAW, yet the term is used here to imply that it is optional.) This has led to the negligence of prayer in congregation.”

Which is a clear proof that there are Muslims who do believe this “salat al-jama’ah” (congregational prayer) is optional and not compulsory. The fact that the good Sheikh is regretting this attitude is irrelevant. He is expressing his personal views, Other Muslims think differently.



However the important requisite of this prayer is that it should be said in a mosque



The emphasis that this prayer must be said in a mosque and not in another place like a house or a classroom is clear form the following:

'Whoever does not offer his prayer IN THE MOSQUE with the Muslims and has no legal excuse, surely his prayers are not accepted' Al-Amili / Wasa'il al-Shi'a/ Part 3/ P.377.

Imam al-Baqir (a.s.) is quoted as having said:

'Whoever lives near the mosque and does not offer his prayers in it, without being sick or busy, surely his prayers are not accepted'. Al-Amili / Wasa'il al-Shi'a/ Part 3/ P.375.



The Friday congregational prayer is prayed in stead of the noon prayer, though it may begin slightly earlier. It is obligatory on Muslim men of age to pray and is optional for women, as it is more difficult for them to attend. It is advised to be in the largest gathering possible.



The Dhuhr (noon) prayer. Four Rak‘ahs. Time starts just after sun moves down from its zenith and ends at the midpoint between zenith and sunset.



And Muslims are encouraged to come to the Mosque for this prayer in this ridiculous hadith. 

According to Abu-Horayra, a companion of the Prophet, Muhammad said, "When Friday comes, the angels are standing at the door of the mosque. They note the first comer, and the second comer (and so on). He who comes early is like a man who gives alms of a fat camel, and then (successively) a man who gives alms of a bull, then a chicken, then an egg. When the Imam comes out, the angels shut their registers and listen to the mention of God." (Bokhari, vol. 1, p. 203)



The holy Prophet of Allah felt so strong about this prayer that he like a typical sick dictator even contemplated burning the houses of those who don’t attend.

"I felt a strong desire to command a man to lead the people in prayer. Then command some men to fetch firewood, then go to the people who have left off praying in congregation and set their houses on fire. By the One in whose hand the soul of Muhammad is, if one of them knew that he would find two good hunted game in the masjid, he would surely come to witness the two."  http://www.iisna.com/articles/congregational-prayer.htm

What a nice prophet!


Despite this emphasis if a person misses the congregational prayer he has to offer the noon prayer, the original prayer, which this service normally replaces. and that can be done in private at home. This person will lose the 25 (in other places 27) times more reward but no sin is committed and since the holy Prophet is no more around he can rest assured that his house won't be burned either. 



It should be noted that it is not just the Friday noon prayer that is encouraged to be said in congregation and in the mosque but it is mustaheb that all the prayers be said in congregation. It seems that Allah does not look at he purity of the heart of the worshippers but at their number, to reward them.  

"The prayer of a man along with another man is more purer in the sight of Allaah, than his praying alone. And the prayer of a man along with two other men is purer in the sight of Allaah than his praying with one man." This is because every time the congregation increases in its number of individuals, its reward multiplies with Allaah.



The Prophet (s.a.w.) said:

'Whoever offers his evening prayer, night prayer, and noon prayer in congregation in the mosque, it is as if he had spent the whole night worshipping'.[17]

'Congregational prayer is 25 times better than individual prayer'.[18]

'Allah is obliged toward His servant, who has prayed in a congregation then asked him something, to grant him what he asked before leaving.'[19]

The following is my favorite when praying is used to make the show of piety.

"Whoever offers the five daily prayers in congregation, people will think good of him".[20] 



In another site we read

Congregational prayer five times a day and Salat-u-Jumu’ah on Friday are obligatory on men, based on the following evidence.

Allah the Exalted said:

1.       {O you who believe (Muslims)! When the call is proclaimed for the prayer on the day of Friday, come to the remembrance of Allah [The religious talk (khutba) and prayer (salat)] and leave off business (and every other thing.) That is better for you if you did but know!} (V.62:9)



As it is obvious it is not just the Friday prayer that is better said in congregation but a Muslim is encouraged to say all his 5 daily prayer in congregation and in the mosque.

If Muslims today seek especial concessions for their Friday noon prayer, how long would it take for them to demand to have permission to abstain from their ordinary duties in schools, governmental offices and even factories in order to perform their prayers?


The following ordinance is not practiced in any Islamic country.

 It is reported from Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq (a.s.) that he said:

'Surely the Imam (leader of the prayer) should release the prisoners on Fridays and the Eids and send with them someone who teachs them their religion. When, then, they have offered their prayers on Friday and the Eids, he returns them to the prison'.[21] 

But how long would it take for the Muslims to demand such concession in Canada?


These Muslims who in their country of origin do not respect the rights of the minorities to freely practice their own religion, now want the taxpayers of Canada provide for them facilities so they can perform their rituals and foment the hate of the non-Muslims. These people want us to give them a hand to and the freedom to preach a religion that promotes intolerance and wants to take away our freedom.  

What a cruel joke!


1.      There is a controversy about the congregational prayers as to whether they are compulsory or not.

2.      The congregational prayers must be said in "mosques". (not in a school ground funded by the "filthy" Kafirs (infidels) 

3.      If the congregational prayer is missed, the worshiper should say the prayer at home individually.

4.      All the 5 daily prayers are better if said in congregation and in a mosque.

5.    If any prayer is missed, it can be replaced.


gsubrec wrote:

After WW2, the west has lost its appettite for INTERNAL violence of any type
Is the west prepared to handle muslim rioting.
The muslims ( 90% ) will use Milosevic methods or worse, are you prepared to
are you prepared to accept the fact that for survival, religous intolerance
against islam is acceptable
defensive tactics.  If you look at the war against commies, Reagan was
right, the liberals and peaceniks
were wrong

Muslim%   Country
10                France
5                  Denmark, Holland, Germany, Belgium, Austria
2                  England, Italy, Spain, Norway, Sweden
13                India  ( islamic rioting is very common after friday
incitement by mullahs )
                    ( Partition happened in 1947 when muslims were 24% )
15                Russia ( civil war in chechnya )
18                Israel
50                Nigeria ( civil war has begun )
18                Cyprus ( civil war and partition )

The track record says that any country with over 18% muslims is heading for
civil war

Your grandmothers had 8 kids each and they were better off than muslim women
Mormons in the USA currently outbreed muslims and Mormon women have more
rights than
muslim women.  The choice is between womens lib ( few kids, abortion, ) and
have society succumb to islam or cut back on womens lib, produce 5-6 kids
In Lebanon, the Xtian women chose womens lib and had 4 kids, the muslims had
7 kids
and took over Lebanon like an internal cancer

The west will fall to islam since it has lost the will to be ruthless to
internal subversives
and concepts like political correctness have corrupted the west

Again it is not a racial issue, the ancestors of the taliban were peaceful







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