Terrorism has nothing to do with Islam
In the immediate aftermath of the ISIS-claimed massacre of civilians in Tunisia David Cameron, the U.K.’s Prime-minister has once again assured the British public and non-Muslims worldwide that the attack was not carried out “in the name of Islam” because “Islam is a religion of peace.” The killers, rather, “do it in the name of a twisted, perverted ideology.” He is also on record as saying that they “don’t represent Islam or Muslims … anywhere in the world.”
Of course I believe what he says.
It is a great relief to me that I have such an Islamically educated man as the leader of my Country. Perhaps we should call him Mufti Sheikh Imam Ayatollah Cameron to reflect his encyclopaedic knowledge of Islam.
You think I’m being sarcastic?
No, listen:
Some little while ago a whole raft of Islamic experts in the U.K. and another in the U.S. issued long letters setting out how ISIS was un-Islamic. Amongst the many things they declared was that in order for anyone to issue a “fatwa” their knowledge of Islam had to be total – you had to know everything about Islam first.
And whether he realises it or not Camoron is issuing a fatwa.
The attackers invariably shout “Allahu Akbar”, the great Islamic cry; are certain they are Muhajadeen (Muslim soldiers) and Shahids (Muslim martyrs who witness – the actual meaning of “shahid” – to their Holy Islamic faith by committing mass-murder) and they believe completely in the promises of Allah as recorded in the Noble Quran, the Holy book of Islam, that if they die they will receive “paradise” and the “rewards of Allah” – 72 virgins etc.
So by implying that their actions have “nothing to do with Islam” Cameron is making a religious ruling, or fatwa in Islam.
Thus he must have this all-encompassing knowledge of Islam.
And he is not alone.
A whole mess of other politicians, Muslim leaders and others have repeated words to the same effect.
So let’s be quite clear:
The actions of ISIS (and it’s affiliates) have NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM.
Period.
Full-stop.
End of.
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So let’s assess what has “nothing to do with Islam”.
Islam is based on a Corpus of writings; the Sharia, the Sunnah (Sirat and hadith) and the Quran. It also has it’s prophet, Mohammed (as the pinnacle of morality and godly behaviour) and it’s god, Allah.
I shall now consider each in turn:
Sharia law.
Al-Shabaab have launched attacks on the non-Muslim countries around Somalia.
Boko Haraam and ISIS take sex-slaves.
Both gleefully slaughter non-Muslims.
As we know these things are nothing to do with Islam.
Allah’s holy and perfect laws – aka Sharia (see for example “reliance of the traveller”), have sections explaining how Muslims should go about taking sex slaves and raid non-Muslim countries bordering the Islamic state(s), killing those who resist in any way.
Thus these laws have nothing to do with Islam and if one part of Allah’s holy and perfect laws have nothing to do with Islam then intrinsically all other Sharia laws have nothing to do with Islam either.
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The Sunnah.
This is comprised of the Sirat – the biographies of Mohammed and the Hadith – the sayings of Mohammed.
The earliest extant example of Sirat is that of ibn Ishaq/ibn Hisham. Parts of this work detail the capture of sex-slaves and the killing of non-Muslims.
We know that these things have nothing to do with Islam so it follows that this Sirat – the oldest and most reliable – also has nothing to do with Islam.
The most famous hadith collections amongst the Sunnis are those of Muslim and Bukhari. They are so revered as to be part of the ‘canon’ of scripture for many Sunnis (but not the “quran only” or “quranite” Muslims to be fair).
According to the organisation “Political Islam” of the verses that refer to Jihad in the Sahih collection 98% (give or take) are devoted to sword-jihad and the killing of non-Muslims.
We know that such an attitude to non-Muslims has nothing to do with Islam, thus these hadith have nothing to do with Islam.
Muslim and Bukhari, who both rejected as fabricated or defective something like 99% of all the hadith they came across before compiling their “Sahih” collections use the same criteria to assess the validity of all the hadith they deemed “sahih” – i.e. correct/true.
Thus if a whole tranche of their hadith are shown to have nothing to do with Islam we have to dismiss the lot as having nothing to do with Islam because to do otherwise would be to use double standards.
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Mohammed.
Mohammed is the “man made perfect” (Al-ihsan al-Kamil) and the perfect example for humanity for all time according to the Quran.
Mohammed enslaved, raped, killed and robed non-Muslims. As we know all these actions are nothing to do with Islam therefore we can say that Mohammed has nothing to do with Islam. Again, to do otherwise would be to use double-standards, we would be taking a “pick-n-mix” attitude to Mohammed which, given that he is the “perfect man” would be just so wrong.
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The Koran.
The Koran contains some 112 verses relating to violence and many relating to the killing of non-Muslims. The Koran purports to the the literal word of Allah, the god of Islam, who is also “al-Haqq” – The Truth.
Therefore, each and every word of the Quran must be Allah’s and must be true. But we know that the “words of violence” have nothing to do with Islam.
If some of the Quran has nothing to do with Islam then it can’t be the literal words of Allah nor can it be true.
Yet again, unless we use double-standards we are forced to conclude that the Quran has nothing to do with Islam.
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Allah.
Allah is the god ‘revealed’ in the Quran (we can discount the earlier Abrahamic scriptures because the Koran tells us they are corrupted) and in the Koran it is Allah who is giving the orders to kill, despoil and enslave non-Muslims. We know such actions or commands have nothing to do with Islam, thus it follows that Allah has nothing to do with Islam.
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Conclusion.
Starting with the premise that Islamic terrorism “has nothing to do with Islam” we can logically deduce that:
- The Sharia has nothing to do with Islam.
- The Sunnah has nothing to do with Islam.
- Mohammed has nothing to do with Islam.
- The Quran has nothing to do with Islam.
- Allah has nothing to do with Islam.
Thus none of Islam’s foundational texts and personalities actually have anything whatsoever to do with Islam.
To put this in a nutshell we arrive at the conclusion that:
Islam has nothing to do with Islam.
This is an example of “reductio ad absurdam” (reduction to absurdity).
Thus those who peddle this line are either liars or themselves deceived.
Muxlims – If you really want to prove that Islam is religion of Peace, why do you try to spread your population, why do you try to kill who don’t accept Islam, why are most of crimes today is happening in Islamic world?
Samar is making a “straw man” argument and FAILING even to rebut that!
He is claiming the author said something he didn’t (the straw man) and his [cough] ‘rebuttal’ is to write “hahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahaha”.
In this we see the typical intellectual bankruptcy of so many Muslims. This is one of the worst cases though.
What sort of idiot sets up a straw man and then fails to rebut said straw man?
What sort of fool thinks that yakking is a rebuttal?
In a case of gross irony Samar writes “even a little child can defeat him [the author] in this debate”, yet he (as Muslims do so often) offers no argument against what Jon MC says. Thus we may conclude that Samar is less than “a little child” since he at least has failed to defeat Jon MC.
What’s really funny Samar is that the article does NOT say (as you claim) ” there are 112 verses to kill innocents” but “112 verses relating to violence and many relating to the killing of non-Muslims”.
So clearly you did not understand what was written, assuming you actually read the article that is.
Thus I can only presume that YOU think the Koran contains 112 verse commanding Muslims to kill innocents. Do you add “Jazakallah” and “Allahu Akbar” to that?
Only bunch of idiots who come here to learn here about Islam LOL. The one who writes this articles has even zero knowledge of Islam as he pointed there are 112 verses to kill innocents hahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahaha laugh at this child who wrote this hahhahaha even a little child can defeat him in this debate. Hahahha grow up child grow up. You are nothing more than a loser.
Of course Islam has always had everything to do with terrorism and terrorism has everything to do with Islam because the truth is that Islam and muslims could not mentally exist without it…they have stolen every country they have and waged war and still rages war, slaughter, rape, slavery until they have taken every country they see and enter! There is no Islam without terrorism because terrorism is the heart of Islam in its’ pedophile, head lopping, raping, slaving false prophet and his teachings and his teachings of mercenary slaughter and pillaging and thievery of the globe are the cults political agenda!
Excellent analysis Jonmc.Yes,acepting the claims of our cowardly politicians does lead to absurd and contradictory conclusions.
Fortuanetely,they can’t fool the public no longer.We can detect the fake muslims from the true muslims simply by comparing their behaviors with that of Muhammad’s.And ISIS tend to mimic their prophet’s behavior more accurately than the average ‘modern’ western muslim.
Excellent! But Islam has nothing to do with logic either, so it is all pointless. Faith as such has nothing to do with reason or logic, only feelings, so it is all pointless. They “feel” that they must chop our, “infidels’,” heads and that’s their ONLY justification, and sufficient for them. So what’s the point? Illogic has nothing to do with logic – end of discussion. Wonder if ANY of our politicians will dare to make logical causation from it, but… well, it’s very fanny, anyway. Thanks!