Scripture of Savages

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  1. Walter Sieruk says:

    On above list number six which clearly keyboarded the word “Murder.” As with the murderous violence of jihad of Islam by in the deadly jihadists bombing and shootings or the other type of Islamic murder which is known as “honor killing.”

    For example,when a Muslim father ruthlessly murders his very own daughter , this heartless callous and malicious action of cold blooded murder many Muslims very inappropriately and unfittingly call an “honor killing..” Changing the title or term of a heinously evil action doesn’t change ,in any way, its actual, real, essence. For example if a person scrapes the warning label off a bottle of cyanide and then replace that label with another label with the words “Apple Juice” that doesn’t change the deadly content in the bottle , It’s still cyanide . Likewise, Muslims changing the terms from the reality of a man viciously and cruelly murdering his daughter to a “honor killing” doesn’t change the reality of the fact that he is a murderer. . What’s more, one I read in a Muslim propaganda a booklet the bogus claim of the words “Islam respects life, all life.” What a blatant falsehood of a lie of there ever was one.

  2. Face_The_Truth says:

    Fact 1 – Jesus approves of slavery in NT (and never says one word against it).

    Fact 2 – Jesus says all the barbaric laws in the OT stand for all time

    Fact 3 – Jesus believes all the rapist slave owning monsters in the OT are prophets which he sent (since he is Jehovah- according to Christians) and Jesus believes literally in the stories of the OT.

    Fact 4 – Jesus’s rantings against the Jews inspired anti-Semitic nonsense in Europe for centuries which eventually resulted in the Holocaust.

    Fact 5 – Christians found justification for killing, torturing, raping, and plundering the lands of non believers in the OT (see facts 2 and 3).

    Fact 6 – Jesus commands his followers to hate and abandon their families and to have no thought for tomorrow. Jesus preachers this nonsense because Jesus believed the end of the world was coming and God the Father’s judgment on humanity and claims the only way to be saved from God the Father’s wrath is by getting himself tortured and killed (for the select few that accept his “sacrifice” and that Jesus is their Lord and savior.)

    Fact 7 – A person who believes in the above would be an insane lunatic who would be locked up today in a mental hospital for his own protection and for the protection of society.

    Fact 8 – An insane man is not a role model for anybody. And the laws of West were not inspired by Jesus.

    “The book is so well written I couldn’t put it down until I finished. Though 18th century America was
    largely populated by Christians, she leaves no doubt that America’s Founders saw this as reason to keep religion separate from politics.

    To the disappointment of Christians, it is why “God the Father” was left out of the American Constitution. The man who exerted the most influence on the American Constitution was John Locke, not Jesus Christ.”

    LINK

    http://www.usbible.com/author/moral_minority.htm

    Fact 9 – All so called Christian morals in fact had their roots in the teachings of stoic (Pagan) philosophers HUNDREDS OF YEARS BEFORE Jesus SUPPOSEDLY CAME ON THE SCENE.

    Fact 10 – Following fact 9 Christians also took the existing Pagan celebrations and put a “Christian” label on them.

    In reality Christmas and Easter have nothing to do with your Jesus’s birth and death. These dates were chosen because those were the days when the existing Pagan celebrations took place, not because Jesus was born of a “virgin” or rose from the dead-bed.

    Early Christians wanted to wipe out all existing Pagan heritages in Europe and early Christians were successful by converting existing Pagan holidays of celebrations into “Christian” holidays of Jesus the Nazarene Jew!

  3. continuum says:

    Dear Bro Untruth,

    Stupid jokes aside and quoting stupid websites as pro-Hindu websites…(It is clear you do not have even ONE authentic source for your claims)

    Just answer at the least ONE question…

    And if a man sells his daughter to be a female slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. If she does not please her master, who has betrothed her to himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He shall have no right to sell her to a foreign people, since he has dealt deceitfully with her. And if he has betrothed her to his son, he shall deal with her according to the custom of daughters. If he takes another wife, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, and her marriage rights. And if he does not do these three for her, then she shall go out free, without paying money.

    — Exodus 21

    Just tell me why your evil abominable demon-god of your bible allow selling one’s own daughter as sex-slave?

    Just tell me why it says “He shall have no right to sell her to a foreign people” unless she is s sex slave and NOT his wife?

  4. continuum says:

    In the Vedas we have the Hindu gods Shiva, Brahma and Vishnu all engaged inbestiality (sex with animals). See proof below:
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    Can you give me one authentic reference for your claim? I do NOT answer for fake claims. Can you give me word for word translation?

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    In Holy Puranas, Brahma had a sexual relationship with a Bear. A son called Jambu Vandan was born from this act of bestiality.

    Shiva and Nandi wanted to have sex on an exchange basis. i.e. First Shiva will screw Nandi and then Nandi will screw Shiva. It seems that Shiva started first and rammed Nandi but then when it was Nandi’s turn to screw Shiva, he ran inside the temple and never gave his arse to Nandi. i.e. Never kept his part of the deal.

    Also Hindu god Shiva had sex a b
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    AM I SURPRISED THERE ARE NO REFERENCES BUT ONLY ALLEGATIONS…

  5. continuum says:

    AH Says:

    Real hindu scriptures do not say anything,
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    What do you mean real Hindu scriptures do NOT say anything. Hindu scriptures state what is Hindu belief..One should know what Hindu scriptures say before knowing what Hinduism teaches…

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    scriptures are dead things, like all other books.
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    So what????

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    The problem with Sanatan Dharma is, it does not believe in a divinely appointed central authority to guide the interpretations and translations of its adherents.
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    Says who? you???

    Who do you think Veda Vyasa is then? You do NOT even know what in Hinduism constitutes Hindu scriptures? Does that mean Hinduism does NOT have a divine figure?

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    That is why it is called scripture of savages. In Hinduism there are a billion or more authorities. From a Western point of view it is such a mess.
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    Who cares about bunch of western savages who believe in a savage book of bible where demon god of bible authorizes sexual slavery, kidnapping and raping even young pre-pubescent girls?

    Who is the savage here? idiot?

  6. A.H. says:

    “Your wikipedia says that some of the Hindus think so….

    But what do real Hindu scriptures themselves say?”

    Real hindu scriptures do not say anything, scriptures are dead things, like all other books.

    The problem with Sanatan Dharma is, it does not believe in a divinely appointed central authority to guide the interpretations and translations of its adherents. That is why it is called scripture of savages. In Hinduism there are a billion or more authorities. From a Western point of view it is such a mess.

  7. continuum says:

    Jesus alone is sinless and worthy to be worshipped. Jesus is the way, the truth and life.
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    JUST ASSERTIONS DO NOT PROVE ANYTHING.

    Jeebus was born through adultery…

    Jeebus is incapable to even tolerate hunger, anger, thirst, fear, sorrow and even wept when his girl friend Mary Magda the prostitute was weeping, showing his emotional closeness to a prostitute. Jeebus was subject to all human emotions and weakness.

    Tell me why should we worship such a weakling?

    TO ADD TO THIS LIST, Jeebus was a deluded mentally retarded suicidal mentally unstable person…

    I would NOT consider jeebus as even normal human being, much less a strong human being. ONLY FOOLS CONSIDER SUCH WEAKLING AS some god.

    SUICIDAL THOUGHHTS ARE DUE TO MENTAL ILLNESS. HERE I WILL PROVE THROUGH GOOSE-PELS THAT ADULTERY BORN JEEBUS WAS SUICIDAL MENTAL RETARD.

    THE FOUNDATION OF CHRISTIANITY IS BASED ON SUICIDAL BEHAVIOR..Mamzer jeebus is a suicidal delusional mental retard…

    BOOK Title: “Suicide by Cop: Committing Suicide by Provoking Police to Shoot You”

    Authors: By Mark Lindsay, David Lester

    “Karin Andriolo (1998) has described a number of cultures in which people commit suicide by getting other to kill them…………*This method of committing suicide has been called indirect suicide, vicarious suicide, or masked suicide. Masked suicide is a public performance, and therefore, a public property.* The suicide conforms to the cultural norms and values and thus confirms them. *The suicidal person of this type also does not act impulsively, but rather seeks a cause, and the scenario offers solemnity, symbolism, and purpose. The ritual induces control and calmness in the suicide.*”

    WHAT JEEBUS DID IS INDIRECT SUICIDE AS PER ABOVE DEFINITION. INSTEAD OF SUICIDE BY COP, JEEBUS COMMITTED SUICIDE BY ROMAN SOLDIERS. The symbolism of jeebus’ death is sacrificial lamb, purpose is saving the world from sins…..Jeebus knew he will die and yet did not escape death….This is suicidal behavior clearly…

    GOSPEL VERSES AS EVIDENCE FOR JEEBUS PLANNING SUICIDE FOR LONG TIME

    John 10:15 Young’s Literal Translation

    according as the Father doth know me, and I know the Father, and my life I lay down for the sheep,

    John 10:11

    “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.

    John 10:17

    The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life–only to take it up again.

    John 10:18

    No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”

    THESE VERSES CLEARLY SHOW THAT JEEBUS WAS PLANNING INDIRECT SUICIDE THROUGH RITUAL SACRIFICE, SUICIDE BY ROMAN SOLDIERS. JEEBUS SIMPLY MASKED HIS SUICIDE WITH GRANDIOSE CLAIMS WHICH IS TYPICAL FOR PEOPLE WHO COMMIT INDIRECT SUICIDE.

    Now lets see if SUICIDAL RITUAL is consistent with the belief in a perfect almighty God.

    A perfect almighty God can be thought of to have the following attributes.

    1. Omniscience
    2. Absolute independence in any act
    3. No defects like human beings have jealousy or making mistakes or being a mental retard or one with mentl disorders.

    Being a perfect almighty God, He is

    1. Sole judge
    2. sole Jury
    3. Sole executioner of punishment and rewards.

    Being so, whom did this God want to convince to forgive his own creation through this ghastly bloody suicidal sacrifice of mamzer jeebus?

    Only Himself.

    So the christian claim is that a perfect almighty God, in order to convince Himself to forgive His own creation, sacrificed allegedly His so called son, the mamzer jeebus to save the humanity from His own judgment.

    Now, I am appalled as to why christians cannot see the stupidity of this claim.

    Here almighty God has to merely suspend His judgment in order to save humanity and yet He demands a suicidal torturous bloody sacrifice to save humanity. Is this God unable to forgive without bloody painful torturous sacrifices? What does it say about this God except He is a sadistic violent fellow. Hence this belief is inconsistent with a belief in a perfect almighty God.

    To trump it, christians believe that mamzer jeebus is also god Himself or equal person with god the father. This is even worse, for here one person of god is satisfied by a bloody suicidal ritual sacrifice of another person of god. Here, the persons of god is shown to be a sado-masochist.

    Sadomasochism is the giving or receiving pleasure from acts involving the receipt or infliction of pain or humiliation.

    Mamzer jeebus is definitely a sado-masochist, for he thinks his torturous death will save others and thereby receives pleasure or satisfaction.

    god the father is also another sado-masochist for he receives satisfaction by giving punishment and inflicting pain to god the son. Thus god the father forgives his own creation after being satisfied through infliting torturous pain and death to his son.

    CLEARLY, THE TRINITY OF CHRISTIANITY IS A SADO-MASOCHIST BUNCH OF THREE loonies…NOT LOGICALLY CONSISTENT WITH A BELIEF IN A PERFECT almighty God.

    HENCE MAMZER JEEBUS’ BELIEF AND CHRISTIAN BELIEF IS ILLOGICAL AND IMPOSSIBLE TO BE TRUE AS IT IS LOGICALLY INCONSISTENT. This proves christianity is a false belief based on suicidal delusional belief of a mental retard mamzer jeebus, it still remains a falsehood ONLY.

  8. continuum says:

    Found The unTruth,

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    The birth of Jesus Christ was divine
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    SIMPLY ASSERTING FALSEHOOD DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUTH.

    Why did the so called divine birth precede with 9 months gestation period just like any other human birth? What leads to 9 months gestation period except combination of human male sperm and flea eggs? CLEARLY THIS IS ADULTERY HERE..

    IF some god really made her pregnant miraculously, why did it result in 9 month gestation period just like ordinary birth? Why did this god make miracle in gestation period as well?

    Why was Joseph was NOT informed by this god before Joseph decided to divorce Mary, when apparently this god of yours sent angels to Mary and even to some shepherds…

    Why only 2 of the gospels mention this virgin birth?

    WHY These angels appeared to Joseph ONLY in a dream and that too after he knew about Mary’s adulterous pregnancy and after he decided to divorce her?

    CLEARLY VIRGIN BIRTH IS INVENTED TO HIDE SCANDALOUS ADULTEROUS BIRTH OF JEEBUS.

    YOU CANNOT ANSWER EVEN ONE QUESTION BECAUSE ADULTERY IS TRUTH OF JEEBUS BIRTH.

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    but even if you consider it wrong, in no way does a child’s birth makes a child a criminal under any penal system). Jesus Christ alone is sinless.
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    IT IS ADULTERY HERE…

    CRIMINALITY OR NOT, DO YOU THINK it is normal for an alleged god to be born through ADULTERY? Only fallen sinful creatures are born this manner…

    EVEN YOUR OWN BIBLE AGREES TO THIS…

    A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
    — Deuteronomy 23:2

    WHY WAS YOUR JEEBUS BORN THROUGH ADULTERY?

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    Another hindu god who is sex maniac like Krishna is Shiva. After all they were homosexual partners gods as claimed by Sri Sri Ravi Shankar.
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    NOT A SINGLE EVIDENCE FROM ANY AUTHENTIC HINDU SCRPTURES..JUST SLANDER

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    The below criminal events by Shiva are again recorded in Shiva Purana and corroborated by Prof JL Shastri, Prof Ganesh Vasudeo Tagare, Prof Nilakantha Chaturdhara and many others.
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    Again Shiva Purana and Skanda Purana are considered as TAMAS PURANAS AND NOT AUTHENTIC.

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    This sex maniac hindu god Shiva shamelessly went to the pine forest and seduced the wives of sages, He went to the pine forest
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    None of the verses say that “Lord Shiva went to SEDUCE”…………….THIS IS YOUR IMAGINATION.

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    Previous verses of Shiva Purana tells us that Shiva went there to test them.
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    EXACTLY…TO TEST them…where does to say He went to seduce them?

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    According to some researchers, Shiva actually wanted to enjoy sages’ wives on the pretext of test, just like Krishna stole the cloths of Gopis to watch them naked and later gave a lame reason for this. The basis for this argument is the Dharmasamhita, Purana and commentary by a renowned scholar,
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    AGAIN NO EVIDENCE ONLY SLANDER…Tell me how CAN A 5 YEAR OLD CHILD engage in sexual activities.?

    YOU CAN CONTINUE WITH YOUR SLANDER ILLOGICALLY, BUT LOGIC PROVES YOUR JEEBUS WAS BORN THROUGH ADULTERY….

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    ‘When Siva failed to be satisfied by making love to Gauri, his wife, he then went naked into the Pine forest in the guise of madman, his linga erect, his mind full of desire, wishing to obtain sexual pleasures with the wives of the sages.’- Shiva Purana, Dharmasamhita 10.187; 10.78-80 (Cited O’Flaherty 1973, p.173)

    Nilakantha Chaturdhara on Mahabharata 13.17.42 ”It is known that Siva entered the Pine Forest naked in order to entice the wives of the sages.”
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    Wendy o Flaherty is well known to make FALSE translations and FALSE INTERPRETATIONS.

    For example the following book says

    Hindu Masculinities Across the Ages: Updating the Past

    it is known that Siva entered “naked” in the Darukavana to “delude”, or to “confuse” the wives of the sages. Mrs. Doniger translates the compound “mohanartham” with the words “in order to entice”………

    CLEARLY WENDY’S TRANSLATIONS ARE FALSEHOOD.

  9. continuum says:

    Found The unTruth,

    Why was your jeebus born through adultery?

    http://www.bluffton.edu/~humanities/1/celsus.htm

    BOOK 1
    Chap. 28
    …[Celsus] accuses [Jesus] of having “invented his birth from a virgin,” and upbraids Him with being “born in a certain Jewish village, of a poor woman of the country, who gained her subsistence by spinning, and who was turned out of doors by her husband, a carpenter by trade, because she was convicted of adultery; that after being driven away by her husband, and wandering about for a time, she disgracefully gave birth to Jesus, an illegitimate child, who having hired himself out as a servant in Egypt on account of his poverty, and having there acquired some miraculous powers, on which the Egyptians greatly pride themselves, returned to his own country, highly elated on account of them, and by means of these proclaimed himself a God.”…

    I. Matthew and Luke claims that an angel appeared literally to Mary and informed her about her impending pregnancy. so far fine.

    Luke 1:26 During Elizabeth’s sixth month of pregnancy, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, 27 to a virgin. She was engaged to marry a man named Joseph from the family of David. Her name was Mary. 28 The angel came to her and said, “Greetings! The Lord has blessed you and is with you.”

    II. Mary got pregnant.

    Luke1: 29 But Mary was very startled by what the angel said and wondered what this greeting might mean.

    Luke 1:30 The angel said to her, “Don’t be afraid, Mary; God has shown you his grace. 31 Listen! You will become pregnant and give birth to a son, and you will name him Jesus.

    III. Joseph wants to divorce Mary for ILLEGITIMATE BIRTH.

    Matthew 1

    18 This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about[a]: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit. 19 Because Joseph her husband was faithful to the law, and yet[b] did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly.

    IV. Angels appear to Joseph ONLY IN A DREAM AND NOT LITERALLY, and Joseph apparently gives up the idea of divorce

    Matthew 1:20 But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.

    V MARY STAYS WITH ELZABETH (already pregnant for 6 months), MOTHER OF JOHN THE BAPTIST FOR 3 MONTHS

    Luke 1:26 During Elizabeth’s sixth month of pregnancy, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, 27 to a virgin……………….
    Luke 1:56 Mary stayed with Elizabeth for about three months and then returned home.

    V. Mary gives birth (SHE WAS ALREADY 3 MONTHS PREGNANT WHEN MARY LEFT ELIZABETH AND AFTER 6 MONTHS MARY GAVE BIRTH TO JESUS LIKE ANY OTHER ORDINARY CHILD)

    Luke 2

    4 So Joseph also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to Bethlehem the town of David, because he belonged to the house and line of David. 5 He went there to register with Mary, who was pledged to be married to him and was expecting a child. 6 While they were there, the time came for the baby to be born, 7 and she gave birth to her firstborn, a son.

    CONCLUSION:

    a. Elizabeth is mother of John the Baptist and she is 6 months pregnant AND GAVE BIRTH AT 9TH MONTH. THIS IS CLEAR IN LUKE1 & 2.

    b. Mary also got pregnant and she stayed with Elizabeth for 3 months without giving birth. THEREAFTER MARY GAVE BIRTH AFTER 9 MONTHS PREGNANCY, JUST LIKE ELIZABETH. THERE IS NO OTHER INDICATION IN GOSPELS, THAT JESUS WAS BORN BEFORE 9TH MONTH.

    c. Apparently, Angel Gabriel appeared to Mary literally in physical world. Angels even appeared to shepherds literally in physical world.

    LUKE 2:

    8 And there were shepherds living out in the fields nearby, keeping watch over their flocks at night. 9 An angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terrified. 10 But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid. I bring you good news that will cause great joy for all the people. 11 Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord. 12 This will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger.”

    d. NOTE THAT HOWEVER, JOSEPH DID NOT SEE ANY ANGELS IN PHYSICAL WORLD UNTIL NOW. NOW THIS IS WHERE IT GETS FUNNY.

    1. THIS SO CALLED god OF BIBLE PLANNED TO BE BORN THROUGH A “VIRGIN”, SENT ANGELS LITERALLY TO APPEAR BEFORE MARY TO INFORM HER IMPEDING PREGNANCY, EVEN SENT ANGELS LITERALLY TO SOME UNRELATED SHEPHERDS NEARBY AFTER BIRTH OF JESUS, BUT FORGOT TO INFORM JOSEPH ABOUT MARY’S IMPENDING PREGNANCY?????

    2. THEREFORE JOSEPH DECIDED TO DIVORCE MARY SUSPECTING HER OF ADULTERY.

    3. NOW, EVEN AFTER THIS, THIS SO CALLED god OF BIBLE DID NOT SEND ANGELS LITERALLY IN FRONT OF HIM TO CONVINCE JOSEPH. ANGELS MERELY APPEARED IN A DREAM ONLY. NOW AIN’T THIS FISHY STORY. A god who could send physically angels to Mary and even to some unrelated shepherds, could NOT SEND ANGELS PHYSICALLY TO JOSEPH.

    4. BESIDES, WHY DID THIS god of BIBLE NOT SEND ANGELS TO JOSEPH BEFORE HE DECIDED TO DIVORCE MARY. ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT god of BIBLE FORGOT TO COMMUNICATE TO HUSBAND OF MARY BUT REMEMBERS TO COMMUNICATE TO SOME UNKNOWN SHEPHERDS.

    5. THE NEXT POINT TO CONSIDER IS MARY GAVE BIRTH TO Jesus, JUST LIKE JOHN THE BAPTIST WITH 9 MONTH PREGNANCY.

    A. IT IS CLEAR THAT HUMAN SPERM IS INVOLVED IN SUCH BIRTHS. ONLY HUMAN MALE SPERM IN COMBINATION WITH WOMAN’S EGGS LEADS TO FERTILIZATION AND 9 MONTHS PREGNANCY.

    B. IF THIS god of BIBLE CAN MAKE MARY MIRACULOUSLY PREGNANT WITH 9 MONTHS GESTATION PERIOD, WHAT STOPS THIS so called god of the Bible, FROM PERFORMING A MIRACLE OF REDUCING 9 MONTHS TO GESTATION PERIOD TO 1 MONTH OR 1 DAY OR LESS THAN A DAY?

    6. Only 2 later gospels of the 4 gospels even talk about virgin birth, showing this idea was introduced at a later time and is an innovation in bible.

    ALL THESE POINTS CLEARLY SHOW THAT MARY WAS AN ADULTERESS AND SHE GAVE BIRTH TO THIS MAMZER JESUS THROUGH ADULTERY.

  10. continuum says:

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    According to Wikipedia and the the Devi Bhagavata Purana is a major Purana and authentic Hindu Scripture.
    All scholars agree including Sri. V.D.N.Rao, devotee of Sri Kanchi Kamakoti Peetam.

    The Devi Bhagavata Purana (Sanskrit: देवी भागवतपुराण, Devī Bhāgavatapurāṇa), also known as the Shrimad Devi Bhagvatam and the Devi Bhagavatam, Śrīmad Bhāgavata Mahā Purāṇa is a Sanskrit text that belongs to the Purana-genre of Hindu literature.[1] The text is considered a Mahapurana (major Purana) of India. According to some of the Hindus it is the real Bhagavata Mahapurana.[1]
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    Your wikipedia says that some of the Hindus think so….

    But what do real Hindu scriptures themselves say?

    Padma Purana quote does NOT even list Devi Bhagavatam…why? because it is NOT classified as Purana, but as Upapurana. Second, it is NOT classified as sAtvika or old or authentic.

    For example, note here in the following website which lists all Puranas in original Sanskrit texts. Observe that Devi Bhagavatha is listed under Upapurana…

    http://vedicreserve.mum.edu/puran.htm

    Upapurāṇas
    1. Narasiṁha Purāṇa
    2. Viṣṇudharma Purāṇa
    3. Nāndī Purāṇa
    4. Saura Purāṇa
    5. Kapila Purāṇa
    6. Nīlamata Purāṇa
    7. Devī Bhāgavata Purāṇa

    Also see in wikipedia…Devi Bhagavatha is NOT even listed as one of the 18 major Puranas. Also observe in the wikipedia that Brahmavaivarta is classified as Rajas Purana..

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puranas

    The Padma Purana, Uttara Khanda (236.18-21),[57] classifies the Puranas in accordance with the three gunas or qualities; truth, passion, and ignorance.

    Sattva
    (“truth”)[note 8] Vishnu Purana, Bhagavata Purana, Naradeya Purana, Garuda Purana, Padma Purana, Varaha Purana
    Rajas
    (“passion”)[note 8] Brahmanda Purana, Brahma Vaivarta Purana, Markandeya Purana, Bhavishya Purana, Vamana Purana, Brahma Purana
    Tamas
    (“ignorance”)[note 8] Matsya Purana, Kurma purana, Linga Purana, Shiva Purana, Skanda Purana, Agni Purana

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    So the acts of Krishna i.e. committing these felonies (rape of devotees, murder, mass murder, converting his wives (Krishna’s 16000 wives) into prostitutes are 100% true ,
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    Your argument is FALSE AS SHOWN ABOVE…

  11. Found The Truth says:

    According to Wikipedia and the the Devi Bhagavata Purana is a major Purana and authentic Hindu Scripture.
    All scholars agree including Sri. V.D.N.Rao, devotee of Sri Kanchi Kamakoti Peetam.

    So the acts of Krishna i.e. committing these felonies (rape of devotees, murder, mass murder, converting his wives (Krishna’s 16000 wives) into prostitutes are 100% true ,

    The Devi Bhagavata Purana (Sanskrit: देवी भागवतपुराण, Devī Bhāgavatapurāṇa), also known as the Shrimad Devi Bhagvatam and the Devi Bhagavatam, Śrīmad Bhāgavata Mahā Purāṇa is a Sanskrit text that belongs to the Purana-genre of Hindu literature.[1] The text is considered a Mahapurana (major Purana) of India. According to some of the Hindus it is the real Bhagavata Mahapurana.[1]

  12. continuum says:

    JEEBUS WAS BORN THROUGH ADULTERY AND unholy ghost MADE MARY PREGNANT WITHOUT HER HUSBAND’S KNOWLEDGE…..

    http://www.bluffton.edu/~humanities/1/celsus.htm

    BOOK 1
    Chap. 28
    …[Celsus] accuses [Jesus] of having “invented his birth from a virgin,” and upbraids Him with being “born in a certain Jewish village, of a poor woman of the country, who gained her subsistence by spinning, and who was turned out of doors by her husband, a carpenter by trade, because she was convicted of adultery; that after being driven away by her husband, and wandering about for a time, she disgracefully gave birth to Jesus, an illegitimate child, who having hired himself out as a servant in Egypt on account of his poverty, and having there acquired some miraculous powers, on which the Egyptians greatly pride themselves, returned to his own country, highly elated on account of them, and by means of these proclaimed himself a God.”…

    I. Matthew and Luke claims that an angel appeared literally to Mary and informed her about her impending pregnancy. so far fine.

    Luke 1:26 During Elizabeth’s sixth month of pregnancy, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, 27 to a virgin. She was engaged to marry a man named Joseph from the family of David. Her name was Mary. 28 The angel came to her and said, “Greetings! The Lord has blessed you and is with you.”

    II. Mary got pregnant.

    Luke1: 29 But Mary was very startled by what the angel said and wondered what this greeting might mean.

    Luke 1:30 The angel said to her, “Don’t be afraid, Mary; God has shown you his grace. 31 Listen! You will become pregnant and give birth to a son, and you will name him Jesus.

    III. Joseph wants to divorce Mary for ILLEGITIMATE BIRTH.

    Matthew 1

    18 This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about[a]: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit. 19 Because Joseph her husband was faithful to the law, and yet[b] did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly.

    IV. Angels appear to Joseph ONLY IN A DREAM AND NOT LITERALLY, and Joseph apparently gives up the idea of divorce

    Matthew 1:20 But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.

    V MARY STAYS WITH ELZABETH (already pregnant for 6 months), MOTHER OF JOHN THE BAPTIST FOR 3 MONTHS

    Luke 1:26 During Elizabeth’s sixth month of pregnancy, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, 27 to a virgin……………….
    Luke 1:56 Mary stayed with Elizabeth for about three months and then returned home.

    V. Mary gives birth (SHE WAS ALREADY 3 MONTHS PREGNANT WHEN MARY LEFT ELIZABETH AND AFTER 6 MONTHS MARY GAVE BIRTH TO JESUS LIKE ANY OTHER ORDINARY CHILD)

    Luke 2

    4 So Joseph also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to Bethlehem the town of David, because he belonged to the house and line of David. 5 He went there to register with Mary, who was pledged to be married to him and was expecting a child. 6 While they were there, the time came for the baby to be born, 7 and she gave birth to her firstborn, a son.

    CONCLUSION:

    a. Elizabeth is mother of John the Baptist and she is 6 months pregnant AND GAVE BIRTH AT 9TH MONTH. THIS IS CLEAR IN LUKE1 & 2.

    b. Mary also got pregnant and she stayed with Elizabeth for 3 months without giving birth. THEREAFTER MARY GAVE BIRTH AFTER 9 MONTHS PREGNANCY, JUST LIKE ELIZABETH. THERE IS NO OTHER INDICATION IN GOSPELS, THAT JESUS WAS BORN BEFORE 9TH MONTH.

    c. Apparently, Angel Gabriel appeared to Mary literally in physical world. Angels even appeared to shepherds literally in physical world.

    LUKE 2:

    8 And there were shepherds living out in the fields nearby, keeping watch over their flocks at night. 9 An angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terrified. 10 But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid. I bring you good news that will cause great joy for all the people. 11 Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord. 12 This will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger.”

    d. NOTE THAT HOWEVER, JOSEPH DID NOT SEE ANY ANGELS IN PHYSICAL WORLD UNTIL NOW. NOW THIS IS WHERE IT GETS FUNNY.

    1. THIS SO CALLED god OF BIBLE PLANNED TO BE BORN THROUGH A “VIRGIN”, SENT ANGELS LITERALLY TO APPEAR BEFORE MARY TO INFORM HER IMPEDING PREGNANCY, EVEN SENT ANGELS LITERALLY TO SOME UNRELATED SHEPHERDS NEARBY AFTER BIRTH OF JESUS, BUT FORGOT TO INFORM JOSEPH ABOUT MARY’S IMPENDING PREGNANCY?????

    2. THEREFORE JOSEPH DECIDED TO DIVORCE MARY SUSPECTING HER OF ADULTERY.

    3. NOW, EVEN AFTER THIS, THIS SO CALLED god OF BIBLE DID NOT SEND ANGELS LITERALLY IN FRONT OF HIM TO CONVINCE JOSEPH. ANGELS MERELY APPEARED IN A DREAM ONLY. NOW AIN’T THIS FISHY STORY. A god who could send physically angels to Mary and even to some unrelated shepherds, could NOT SEND ANGELS PHYSICALLY TO JOSEPH.

    4. BESIDES, WHY DID THIS god of BIBLE NOT SEND ANGELS TO JOSEPH BEFORE HE DECIDED TO DIVORCE MARY. ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT god of BIBLE FORGOT TO COMMUNICATE TO HUSBAND OF MARY BUT REMEMBERS TO COMMUNICATE TO SOME UNKNOWN SHEPHERDS.

    5. THE NEXT POINT TO CONSIDER IS MARY GAVE BIRTH TO Jesus, JUST LIKE JOHN THE BAPTIST WITH 9 MONTH PREGNANCY.

    A. IT IS CLEAR THAT HUMAN SPERM IS INVOLVED IN SUCH BIRTHS. ONLY HUMAN MALE SPERM IN COMBINATION WITH WOMAN’S EGGS LEADS TO FERTILIZATION AND 9 MONTHS PREGNANCY.

    B. IF THIS god of BIBLE CAN MAKE MARY MIRACULOUSLY PREGNANT WITH 9 MONTHS GESTATION PERIOD, WHAT STOPS THIS so called god of the Bible, FROM PERFORMING A MIRACLE OF REDUCING 9 MONTHS TO GESTATION PERIOD TO 1 MONTH OR 1 DAY OR LESS THAN A DAY?

    6. Only 2 later gospels of the 4 gospels even talk about virgin birth, showing this idea was introduced at a later time and is an innovation in bible.

    ALL THESE POINTS CLEARLY SHOW THAT MARY WAS AN ADULTERESS AND SHE GAVE BIRTH TO THIS MAMZER JESUS THROUGH ADULTERY.

  13. continuum says:

    1. Jeebus could NOT take hunger for few hours
    2. Jeebus got angry and cursed a tree out of season knowing it to be out of season.
    3. Jeebus was in frustration and anger against the Pharisees.
    4. Jeebus experienced grief and even cried for the dead.
    5. Jeebus is in grief knowing about his death and prays for relief from god.

    I have quoted verses from authentic gospels where adultery born Jeebus suffers from all human frailties like hunger, fear, anger, frustration, crying for dead, sorriness…etc. AS HE HAD A HUMAN BODY.

    NOW TELL ME LOGICALLY WHY YOU THINK JEEBUS DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL URGES? IT IS OBVIOUS HE HAD THIS HUMAN URGE AS WELL.?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Magdalene

    Gospel of Philip

    And the companion of the saviour was Mary Magdalene. Christ loved Mary more than all the disciples, and used to kiss her often. The rest of the disciples were offended by it and expressed disapproval. They said to him, “Why do you love her more than all of us?” The Saviour answered and said to them, “Why do I not love you like her?”

    it is obvious answer…magdalene is a finance of jeebus…Stories like these do NOT arise without any smoke….No wonder Jeebus wept when he saw Maru Magda weeping….It is love for her as a wife….CLEARLY JEEBUS HAD SEXUAL ATTRACTIONS AS WELL..

  14. continuum says:

    Krishna had adulterous sex with this cowherdess woman (Viraja) and then made this woman (Viraja) to commit suicide to placate his wife Radha and escape the anger of his wife Radha. Krishna had kept Sudama as a lookout to see that Radha and other wives/people do not know about it.
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    Brahma-vaivarta Purana and Devi Bhagavatam are NOT considered authentic scriptures in Hinduism. They are categorized as Tamas Puranas.

    So you are wasting your time.

    Padma Purana, Uttara-khanda, 236.18–21 Satvika Puranas: (majority content is sAtvika with some tàmasã and Rajasa potions) “वैष्णवं नारदीयं च तथा भागवतं शुभम् । गारुडं च तथा पाद्मं वाराहं शुभदर्शने । सात्विकानि पुराणानि विज्ञेयानि शुभानि वै ।। “Vishnu Purana, Naradiya Puran, Padma Purana, Garuda Purana, Varaha Purana, Srimad Bhagavatam Purana (236.18)” Rajasa Puranas: (majority content is rajas with some tàmasã and sAtvika potions) ब्रह्माण्डं ब्रह्मवैवर्तं मार्कण्डेयं तथैव च । भविष्यं वामनं ब्राह्मं राजसानि निबोधत ।। Brahmanda Purana, Brahmavaivarta, Markandeya Purana, Bhavishya Purana, Vamana Purana, Brahma Purana (236.19) Tamasa Puranas : (majority content is tàmasã with some sAtvika and Rajasa potions) मात्सयं कौर्मं तथा लैङ्गम् शैवं स्कान्दं तथैव च । आग्नेयं च षडेतानि तामसानि निबोधत ।। “Matsya Purana, Kurma Purana, Linga Purana, Shiva Purana, Skanda Purana, Agni Purana (236.20) And it further says सात्विका मोक्षदाः प्रोक्ताः राजसा सर्वदा अशुभाः । तथैव तामसा देवि निरयप्राप्तिहेतवः ।। (प.पु. उत्तर 236.21) Among these puranas Satvika Puranas lead one to liberation, Rajasa leads to inauspicious results everywhere and tamasa puranas lead one to hell. (236.21)

    Brahmavaivarta Purana is classified as Rajas Purana (NOT authentic) that leads to inauspicious results. Devi Bhagavatam is classified as Tamas upapurana (dark subsidiary purana) and therefore not authentic.

  15. Found The Truth says:

    Krishna had adulterous sex with this cowherdess woman (Viraja) and then made this woman (Viraja) to commit suicide to placate his wife Radha and escape the anger of his wife Radha. Krishna had kept Sudama as a lookout to see that Radha and other wives/people do not know about it.

    All these dirty activities of this hindu god are documented by Hindu Scriptures and supported by Hindu Swamis and HIndu Scholars.

    In the below example in Brahma Vaivarta Purana, this god Krisna as Vishnu was having sex with the daughter of Ocean god.

    Devi Bhagavatam 6.28.1-11 ”…Thus the Bhagavan Narayana was playing in amorous movements with the daughter of the ocean, fully capable to give one delight and enjoyment. Seeing me, the lovely Devi Kamala, dear to Vasudeva, full of youth and beauty, decorated with ornaments, endowed with all auspicious signs, superior to all the women, went away at once (to another room) from the presence of Janardana. The breast of Laksmi Devi was becoming visible even through the cloth thrown over it…” Tr. Swami Vijnananda

    Vishnu’s avatar Krishna had also done similar act, His girlfriend Radha was too agitated because of that,
    Brahma Vaivarta Purana, Prakriti Khanda 49.1-9 ”…Once upon a time, Lord Krisna, well decked was sporting with a cow herdess named Viraja on a part of the Sata Sringa mountain situatied in Vrindavana at the Goloka…

    Their sexual intercourse was interminable Krisna and Viraja both expert in sexual intercourse enjoyed the pleasures of that intercourse. For one Manwantra according to the calculation of the residents of the Goloka, free from death and birth their intercourse lasted. Four female messengers of Radha went and informed Radha of the matter. Radha was thereupon highly incensed and threw down the garland from her breast…She ascended,, with millions of her beloved female companions…This car was faster in speed than the mind.

    Sudama, the friend of Krisna as soon as he perceived the approach of Radha, warned Krisna and ran away with his associates. Afraid of forfeiting the love of his beloved Radha, Krishna left the chaste Viraja and disappeared. Viraja, too, through Radha’s fear, committed suicide…” Tr. Rajendra Nath Sen

  16. continuum says:

    MAMZER JEEBUS AND MAGDALENE MARY (JEEBUS USED TO SMOOCH MAGDALENE MORE OFTEN)

    CHRISTIANS SAY JEEBUS WAS SINLESS…..However his life shows and even birth shows he was born in sin. Anybody born with a body will be subject to all bodily afflictions. Even the goose-pels show that Jeebus could NOT even suffer hunger for even half a day.

    Mark 11

    12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.

    CLEARLY JEEBUS WAS SUBJECT TO BODILY REQUIREMENTS OF HUNGER AND COULD NOT EVEN BEAR HALF A DAYS HUNGER. NOW WHY WOULD ANYBODY BELIEVE THAT HE DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL URGES THEN? IF A MAN CANNOT BEAR HUMGER FOR A FEW HOURS, WOULD YOU BELIEVE JEEBUS DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL URGES?

    Mark 3 New International Version (NIV)

    Jesus Heals on the Sabbath

    4 Then Jesus asked them, “Which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?” But they remained silent.

    5 He looked around at them in anger and, deeply distressed at their stubborn hearts,

    John 11:32-36 (ESV)
    32Now when Mary came to where Jesus was and saw him, she fell at his feet, saying to him, “Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died.”33When Jesus saw her (Mary Magdalene) weeping, and the Jews who had come with her also weeping, he was deeply moved in his spirit and greatly troubled.34And he said, “Where have you laid him?” They said to him, “Lord, come and see.”

    35 Jesus wept.

    36 So the Jews said, “See how he loved him!”

    Matthew 26:36-39 (ESV) (JEEBUS UNDER GRIEF BECAUSE HE KNOWS ABOUT HIS DEATH AND BEGS THAT GOD SHOULD TAKE THIS AWAY)

    Jesus Prays in Gethsemane

    38 Then he said to them, “My soul is very sorrowful, even to death; remain here, and watch with me.

    ”39 And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will.”

    1. Jeebus could NOT take hunger for few hours
    2. Jeebus got angry and cursed a tree out of season knowing it to be out of season.
    3. Jeebus was in frustration and anger against the Pharisees.
    4. Jeebus experienced grief and even cried for the dead.
    5. Jeebus is in grief knowing about his death and prays for relief from god.

    It is obvious that Jeebus has most of the human emotions and cannot even tolerate huger. anger, frustration, grief, fear of death and grieved for his impending death and even wept. LOGICALLY JEEBUS CANNOT BE DEVOID OF SEXUAL URGES AS WELL.

    CLEARLY JEEBUS IS NOT IN CONTROL OF HIS OWN SENSES. Combine this with his adulterous birth. Do you think a person born through adultery will have control of senses?

    NOW WE GO FOR SEXUAL URGES JEEBUS HAD. There are clues in gospels which were omitted from bible.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Magdalene

    Gospel of Philip

    And the companion of the saviour was Mary Magdalene. Christ loved Mary more than all the disciples, and used to kiss her often. The rest of the disciples were offended by it and expressed disapproval. They said to him, “Why do you love her more than all of us?” The Saviour answered and said to them, “Why do I not love you like her?”

    it is obvious answer…magdalene is a finance of jeebus…Stories like these do NOT arise without any smoke….No wonder Jeebus wept when he saw Maru Magda weeping….It is love for her as a wife….CLEARLY JEEBUS HAD SEXUAL ATTRACTIONS AS WELL..

  17. continuum says:

    MAMZER JEEBUS AND MAGDALENE MARY (JEEBUS USED TO SMOOCH MAGDALENE MORE OFTEN)

    CHRISTIANS SAY JEEBUS WAS SINLESS…..However his life shows and even birth shows he was born in sin. Anybody born with a body will be subject to all bodily afflictions. Even the goose-pels show that Jeebus could NOT even suffer hunger for even half a day.

    Mark 11

    12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.

    CLEARLY JEEBUS WAS SUBJECT TO BODILY REQUIREMENTS OF HUNGER AND COULD NOT EVEN BEAR HALF A DAYS HUNGER. NOW WHY WOULD ANYBODY BELIEVE THAT HE DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL URGES THEN? IF A MAN CANNOT BEAR HUMGER FOR A FEW HOURS, WOULD YOU BELIEVE JEEBUS DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL URGES?

    Mark 3 New International Version (NIV)

    Jesus Heals on the Sabbath

    4 Then Jesus asked them, “Which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?” But they remained silent.

    5 He looked around at them in anger and, deeply distressed at their stubborn hearts,

    John 11:32-36 (ESV)
    32Now when Mary came to where Jesus was and saw him, she fell at his feet, saying to him, “Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died.”33When Jesus saw her weeping, and the Jews who had come with her also weeping, he was deeply moved in his spirit and greatly troubled.34And he said, “Where have you laid him?” They said to him, “Lord, come and see.”

    35 Jesus wept.

    36 So the Jews said, “See how he loved him!”

    Matthew 26:36-39 (ESV) (JEEBUS UNDER GRIEF BECAUSE HE KNOWS ABOUT HIS DEATH AND BEGS THAT GOD SHOULD TAKE THIS AWAY)

    Jesus Prays in Gethsemane

    38 Then he said to them, “My soul is very sorrowful, even to death; remain here, and watch with me.

    ”39 And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will.”

    1. Jeebus could NOT take hunger for few hours
    2. Jeebus got angry and cursed a tree out of season knowing it to be out of season.
    3. Jeebus was in frustration and anger against the Pharisees.
    4. Jeebus experienced grief and even cried for the dead.
    5. Jeebus is in grief knowing about his death and prays for relief from god.

    It is obvious that Jeebus has most of the human emotions and cannot even tolerate huger. anger, frustration, grief, fear of death and grieved for his impending death and even wept. LOGICALLY JEEBUS CANNOT BE DEVOID OF SEXUAL URGES AS WELL.

    CLEARLY JEEBUS IS NOT IN CONTROL OF HIS OWN SENSES. Combine this with his adulterous birth. Do you think a person born through adultery will have control of senses?

    NOW WE GO FOR SEXUAL URGES JEEBUS HAD. There are clues in gospels which were omitted from bible.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Magdalene

    Gospel of Philip

    And the companion of the saviour was Mary Magdalene. Christ loved Mary more than all the disciples, and used to kiss her often. The rest of the disciples were offended by it and expressed disapproval. They said to him, “Why do you love her more than all of us?” The Saviour answered and said to them, “Why do I not love you like her?”

    it is obvious answer…magdalene is a finance of jeebus…Stories like these do NOT arise without any smoke….

  18. continuum says:

    DEMONIC BIBLE AND SEXUAL SLAVERY…EVEN the demon god of BIBLE ALLOWS THIS..including pedophilia

    Numbers 31: (THIS IS NOT MARRIAGE BUT PEDOPHILIA AND RAPE all the same anyway)

    17 So now kill every male child, and every woman who can lie intimately with a man you shall kill.

    18 And all the young girls who have no experience of intimate relations with a man, you may keep alive for yourselves.

    HERE bible demon god allows TO KILL MALE CHILDREN AND TAKE FEMALE CHILDREN AS SEX SLAVES

    GENERATIONAL SEX SLAVES AND SLAVES APPROVED BY demonic bible god himself

    Leviticus – Chapter 25 (NON-ISRAELITE SLAVE IS PERMANENT SLAVE AND IS PASSED AS PROPERTY FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION)
    1 And the Lord spoke to Moses on Mount Sinai, saying
    ………………………
    44 Your male slave or female slave whom you may have from the nations that are around you, from them you may acquire a male slave or a female slave.
    45 And also from the children of the residents that live among you, from them you may acquire [slaves] and from their family that is with you whom they begot in your land, and they shall become your inheritance.
    46 You shall hold onto them as an inheritance for your children after you, as acquired property, and may thus have them serve you forever. But as for your brethren, the children of Israel, a man shall not work his brother with rigor.
    …………………………
    55 For the children of Israel are servants to Me; they are My servants, whom I took out of the land of Egypt. I am the Lord, your God.

    CLEARLY THESE RULES ARE GIVEN BY THE biblical demon god yahweh hIMSELF, just like the evil allah. LOOK AT VERSE 1 AT THE BEGINNING AND VERSE 55 AT THE END OF LEVITICUS CHAPTER 25 ABOVE. THIS IS CLEARLY COMMANDS FROM biblical god himself.

    BLOOD THIRSTY bible demon god ALLOWS GENOCIDE BY KILLING SUCKLING INFANTS.

    I Samuel – Chapter 15 (Genocide of suckling infants and even animals)

    3 Now, go, and you shall smite Amalek, and you shall utterly destroy all that is his, and you shall not have pity on him: and you shall slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.’ ”

    MAMZER JEEBUS WORSHIPPING CRUSTIANS, Can you show me one place in Hinduism, where soldiers are allowed to take married women and children as sex slaves like your demonic bible.

    YOUR DEMON god OF the Bible AND ISLAMIC ALLAH ARE THE SAME.

  19. continuum says:

    JEEBUS WAS BORN THROUGH ADULTERY AND unholy ghost MADE MARY PREGNANT WITHOUT HER HUSBAND’S KNOWLEDGE…..

    http://www.bluffton.edu/~humanities/1/celsus.htm

    BOOK 1
    Chap. 28
    …[Celsus] accuses [Jesus] of having “invented his birth from a virgin,” and upbraids Him with being “born in a certain Jewish village, of a poor woman of the country, who gained her subsistence by spinning, and who was turned out of doors by her husband, a carpenter by trade, because she was convicted of adultery; that after being driven away by her husband, and wandering about for a time, she disgracefully gave birth to Jesus, an illegitimate child, who having hired himself out as a servant in Egypt on account of his poverty, and having there acquired some miraculous powers, on which the Egyptians greatly pride themselves, returned to his own country, highly elated on account of them, and by means of these proclaimed himself a God.”…

    I. Matthew and Luke claims that an angel appeared literally to Mary and informed her about her impending pregnancy. so far fine.

    Luke 1:26 During Elizabeth’s sixth month of pregnancy, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, 27 to a virgin. She was engaged to marry a man named Joseph from the family of David. Her name was Mary. 28 The angel came to her and said, “Greetings! The Lord has blessed you and is with you.”

    II. Mary got pregnant.

    Luke1: 29 But Mary was very startled by what the angel said and wondered what this greeting might mean.

    Luke 1:30 The angel said to her, “Don’t be afraid, Mary; God has shown you his grace. 31 Listen! You will become pregnant and give birth to a son, and you will name him Jesus.

    III. Joseph wants to divorce Mary for ILLEGITIMATE BIRTH.

    Matthew 1

    18 This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about[a]: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit. 19 Because Joseph her husband was faithful to the law, and yet[b] did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly.

    IV. Angels appear to Joseph ONLY IN A DREAM AND NOT LITERALLY, and Joseph apparently gives up the idea of divorce

    Matthew 1:20 But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.

    V MARY STAYS WITH ELZABETH (already pregnant for 6 months), MOTHER OF JOHN THE BAPTIST FOR 3 MONTHS

    Luke 1:26 During Elizabeth’s sixth month of pregnancy, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, 27 to a virgin……………….
    Luke 1:56 Mary stayed with Elizabeth for about three months and then returned home.

    V. Mary gives birth (SHE WAS ALREADY 3 MONTHS PREGNANT WHEN MARY LEFT ELIZABETH AND AFTER 6 MONTHS MARY GAVE BIRTH TO JESUS LIKE ANY OTHER ORDINARY CHILD)

    Luke 2

    4 So Joseph also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to Bethlehem the town of David, because he belonged to the house and line of David. 5 He went there to register with Mary, who was pledged to be married to him and was expecting a child. 6 While they were there, the time came for the baby to be born, 7 and she gave birth to her firstborn, a son.

    CONCLUSION:

    a. Elizabeth is mother of John the Baptist and she is 6 months pregnant AND GAVE BIRTH AT 9TH MONTH. THIS IS CLEAR IN LUKE1 & 2.

    b. Mary also got pregnant and she stayed with Elizabeth for 3 months without giving birth. THEREAFTER MARY GAVE BIRTH AFTER 9 MONTHS PREGNANCY, JUST LIKE ELIZABETH. THERE IS NO OTHER INDICATION IN GOSPELS, THAT JESUS WAS BORN BEFORE 9TH MONTH.

    c. Apparently, Angel Gabriel appeared to Mary literally in physical world. Angels even appeared to shepherds literally in physical world.

    LUKE 2:

    8 And there were shepherds living out in the fields nearby, keeping watch over their flocks at night. 9 An angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terrified. 10 But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid. I bring you good news that will cause great joy for all the people. 11 Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord. 12 This will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger.”

    d. NOTE THAT HOWEVER, JOSEPH DID NOT SEE ANY ANGELS IN PHYSICAL WORLD UNTIL NOW. NOW THIS IS WHERE IT GETS FUNNY.

    1. THIS SO CALLED god OF BIBLE PLANNED TO BE BORN THROUGH A “VIRGIN”, SENT ANGELS LITERALLY TO APPEAR BEFORE MARY TO INFORM HER IMPEDING PREGNANCY, EVEN SENT ANGELS LITERALLY TO SOME UNRELATED SHEPHERDS NEARBY AFTER BIRTH OF JESUS, BUT FORGOT TO INFORM JOSEPH ABOUT MARY’S IMPENDING PREGNANCY?????

    2. THEREFORE JOSEPH DECIDED TO DIVORCE MARY SUSPECTING HER OF ADULTERY.

    3. NOW, EVEN AFTER THIS, THIS SO CALLED god OF BIBLE DID NOT SEND ANGELS LITERALLY IN FRONT OF HIM TO CONVINCE JOSEPH. ANGELS MERELY APPEARED IN A DREAM ONLY. NOW AIN’T THIS FISHY STORY. A god who could send physically angels to Mary and even to some unrelated shepherds, could NOT SEND ANGELS PHYSICALLY TO JOSEPH.

    4. BESIDES, WHY DID THIS god of BIBLE NOT SEND ANGELS TO JOSEPH BEFORE HE DECIDED TO DIVORCE MARY. ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT god of BIBLE FORGOT TO COMMUNICATE TO HUSBAND OF MARY BUT REMEMBERS TO COMMUNICATE TO SOME UNKNOWN SHEPHERDS.

    5. THE NEXT POINT TO CONSIDER IS MARY GAVE BIRTH TO Jesus, JUST LIKE JOHN THE BAPTIST WITH 9 MONTH PREGNANCY.

    A. IT IS CLEAR THAT HUMAN SPERM IS INVOLVED IN SUCH BIRTHS. ONLY HUMAN MALE SPERM IN COMBINATION WITH WOMAN’S EGGS LEADS TO FERTILIZATION AND 9 MONTHS PREGNANCY.

    B. IF THIS god of BIBLE CAN MAKE MARY MIRACULOUSLY PREGNANT WITH 9 MONTHS GESTATION PERIOD, WHAT STOPS THIS so called god of the Bible, FROM PERFORMING A MIRACLE OF REDUCING 9 MONTHS TO GESTATION PERIOD TO 1 MONTH OR 1 DAY OR LESS THAN A DAY?

    6. Only 2 later gospels of the 4 gospels even talk about virgin birth, showing this idea was introduced at a later time and is an innovation in bible.

    ALL THESE POINTS CLEARLY SHOW THAT MARY WAS AN ADULTERESS AND SHE GAVE BIRTH TO THIS MLECTHA JESUS THROUGH ADULTERY. THIS IS TYPICAL OF MLECTHAS.

  20. Anonymous says:

    Found the untruth,

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    In Hindu heaven sometimes you have to fight with other hindus (who died fighting) for getting these apsaras. These verses clearly shows it is not only for hindu gods and supergods but for all hindus. Aren’t these similar to Islam heaven?
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    No matter how many quotes you give,

    1. Hindu heaven in temporary.

    2. Even if women are available for warriors who died in war, can you show me one place where these warriors killed innocent people? NO….

    3. Islamic heaven is permanent and eternal where women are available for killing unbelievers.

    Can you show me one place where Hindus are told to kill unbelievers and will attain heaven with women for this?

    If you cannot show any of these, then you have NO point.

    ON THE OTHER HAND, YOUR gOD HIMSELF ARRANGED SEX SLAVES IN THIS WORLD ONLY, INCLUDING PEDOPHILIA..

    Child marriages with adults

    Numbers 31: (THIS IS NOT MARRIAGE BUT PEDOPHILIA AND RAPE all the same anyway)

    17 So now kill every male child, and every woman who can lie intimately with a man you shall kill.
    18 And all the young girls who have no experience of intimate relations with a man, you may keep alive for yourselves.

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    Brahma Vaivarta Purana, Krishna Janma Khanda 131.34-38 Once upon a time, all the gods having assembled in the council of the gods, the celestial whores busied themselves with dancing and singing. On that occasion, the fire-god (having seen Rambha (apsara) with graceful buttocks), was excited with passion and discharged his semen…” Tr. Rajendra Nath Sen

    Rambha was an Apsara (Nymph) she was also the concubine of the King of Gods Indra. What can be said about such gods who are so lecherous.
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    Look at the wrong translation…..

    Nowhere the original Sanskrit verse uses the words “celestial whores”…………This translation is notoriously wrong.

    sushroNiM means “beautiful hips”, which is again translated as “buttocks”….funny translations…Nymph is a western mythology…..It has nothing to do with “Apsara”….

    Lets see another translation…

    Once all the gods were seated in the assembly, in the heaven (svarga), when the Apsaras were dancing.
    Finding Rambha having beautiful hips, the god Agni became passionate and discharged his virya (virility) …..

    Here the word “vIrya” is used and in respect of gods or devatas “semen” cannot be used. The bodies of devatas are different from human.

    Again devatas (gods) in Hinduism are NOT GOD and they are part of creation. This proves nothing….

    At the least you do NOT find Hindu gods telling their followers to go and RAPE women like your demonic bible.

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    Srimad Bhagavatam 6.18.6 ”Upon seeing Urvasi, the celestial society girl, both Mitra and Varuṇa discharged semen, which they preserved in an earthen pot. The two sons Agastya and Vasiṣṭha later appeared from that pot, and they are therefore the common sons of Mitra and Varuṇa. Mitra begot three sons in the womb of his wife, whose name was Revatī. Their names were Utsarga, Ariṣṭa and Pippala.” Tr. Swami Prabhupada

    This story is also supported by Rig Veda 7.33.1 and Nirukta 5.13. All these gods and Rishis had so unique technique of begetting sons from a pot. Now it may help Hindu fanatics who say Science in ancient India was on its peak and Ganesha’s head was really fixed by a plastic surgeon.
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    So what is your point here? Devatas or Hindu gods could pro-create without using a woman’s womb, even in a pot. Don’t you think this is real miracle, unlike your “virgin mary”

    On the other hand, your bible demon god had to use the womb of Mary without informing her husband Joseph and making her pregnant without even informing Mary……

    Which is worse?

  21. Found The Truth says:

    For people in heaven, Hindu supergods have arranged hundreds and thousands of Apsaras or ‘Harlot’ as per the term used by Hindus on this issue.

    Parashara Smriti 3.28-29 Celestial damsels seize for themselves, and take delight with the hero, whose body is wounded or cut by arrows, clubs, or maces. Thousands of celestial damsels, rush forward in a hurry towards a hero killed in battle, each proclaiming, ‘He is my lord, he is mine’.

    Parashara Smriti 3.31 If victorious, wealth is won; if death results, beautiful women fall to his share; since this corporeal frame is liable to perish in an instant’s time, why should we be shy of meeting death on a field of battle?

    Mahabharata 12.98 ”Foremost of Apsaras, numbering by thousands, go out with great speed (for receiving the spirit of the slain hero) coveting him for their lord.” Tr. K.M. Ganguli.

    Devi Bhagavatam 3.15.10-13 ”Some warriors on being slain in the battle instantly arose in a celestial car to the heavens and was seen addressing the celestial nymph, who came already within his embrace, thus “O one of beautiful thighs. Behold! how my beautiful body is lying on the earth below!” Another warrrior thus slain got up in the heavens on a celestial car, came in possession of a celestial nymph and when he was sitting with her in the car, his former wife in the earth made herself a sati and burnt herself up in the funeral pyre, thus got a celestial body, came up to the heavens; and that chaste virtuous woman drew away perforce her own husband away from that celestial nymph. Two warriors, went up, slew each other and lay down dead at the same time. They went up in the heavens at the same time and there began quarrel with each other and fight with their weapons for one and the same celestial nymph. Some hero got in the heavens a nymph more lovely and beautiful than himself and he thus became very much attached and devoted her. He began to describe his own heroic qualities and also to copy dotedly the qualities of his lover so that she might remain faithfully attached to him.” Tr. Swami Vijnananda

    His fellow warriors enjoyed the virgins but this poor guy couldn’t because his wives immolated herself in his pyre. And took him away forcibly from the celestial nymph (Apsara).

    In Hindu heaven sometimes you have to fight with other hindus (who died fighting) for getting these apsaras. These verses clearly shows it is not only for hindu gods and supergods but for all hindus. Aren’t these similar to Islam heaven?

    Brahma Vaivarta Purana, Krishna Janma Khanda 131.34-38 Once upon a time, all the gods having assembled in the council of the gods, the celestial whores busied themselves with dancing and singing. On that occasion, the fire-god (having seen Rambha (apsara) with graceful buttocks), was excited with passion and discharged his semen…” Tr. Rajendra Nath Sen

    Rambha was an Apsara (Nymph) she was also the concubine of the King of Gods Indra. What can be said about such gods who are so lecherous.

    Srimad Bhagavatam 6.18.6 ”Upon seeing Urvasi, the celestial society girl, both Mitra and Varuṇa discharged semen, which they preserved in an earthen pot. The two sons Agastya and Vasiṣṭha later appeared from that pot, and they are therefore the common sons of Mitra and Varuṇa. Mitra begot three sons in the womb of his wife, whose name was Revatī. Their names were Utsarga, Ariṣṭa and Pippala.” Tr. Swami Prabhupada

    This story is also supported by Rig Veda 7.33.1 and Nirukta 5.13. All these gods and Rishis had so unique technique of begetting sons from a pot. Now it may help Hindu fanatics who say Science in ancient India was on its peak and Ganesha’s head was really fixed by a plastic surgeon.

  22. Continuum says:

    Found The unTruth ,
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    I just researched and found out that Hindu Heaven and Islamic Heaven both have heavenly prostitutes who will not age in beauty.
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    Really!!! lets see one by one….if it even parallels the demonic barbaric bible or Quran……

    1. First mistake…

    There is a difference between MOKSHA and heavens (7 levels of world above plane of Earth) in Hinduism.

    One who attains moksha goes beyond this material Universe into spiritual existence. This is the main goal of Hinduism and NOT reaching heavens which are temporary.

    Others who do not attain moksha, go to higher worlds (called heavens in Hinduism) or lower worlds (hellish worlds) and then reincarnate in Earth again.

    All the verses you quote are within this material sphere..(from Brahma Loka to Pitruloka), where souls did NOT go out of reincarnation cycle. Either they go to heavens and spend some time and return to earth (reincarnating as human) with good birth or go to hell and

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    Devi Bhagavatam 4.6.56-58 ”The Apsaras said :– Of the five senses; sound, etc., the pleasures attained through the sensation of touch are excellent,
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    Now, look at the difference between bible and Quran on one hand talking about Sex Slaves and Hinduism…

    Here the Apsaras try to seduce a saint in order to stop his celibate spiritual practices. This has nothing to do with scripture saying that men will get women (apsaras) in heaven. This is a test the saint must pass in order to go beyond reincarnation process. The apsaras are NOT accessible to human beings. Here the saint is NOT human at all, but one of the Gods in theism of this text.

    You need to check the context here http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/db/bk04ch07.htm

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    Brahma Vaivarta Purana, Krishna Janma Khanda 59.77-103
    Fair one, this Heaven is not a field of action; it is a place of enjoyment. And of all enjoyments, association with an excellent woman is the best…
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    OBSERVE CLEARLY ONE THING HERE. THE WORDS USED ARE “EXCELLENT WOMAN” (in singular as wife) AND NOT APSARA WHO ARE NOT ACCESSIBLE TO HUMAN BEINGS AT ALL.

    Probably the Svarga Loka is translated as heaven here which is a temporary world.

    Second, this is NOT MOKSHA (actual heaven), but temporary world just like Earth is temporary, despite Heaven being superior in quality to Earth.

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    Shiva Purana, Vidyeshwara Samhita 1, 24.66-70 ”He who wears Tripundra raises a thousand predecessors and a thousand successors in his family. In this life he will enjoy all wordly pleasures… He will assume then a divine auspicious body endowed with eight accomplishments. He will travel by a divine aerial chariot attended by celestial gods… finally reach Brahma’s region where he will sport with a hundred virgins.” Tr. Board of Scholars, Edited by Jagdish Lal Shastri
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    Points to note again…

    “Brahma’s region” is highest of the 7 heavens which is within this material Universe. AGAIN, THIS IS NOT MOKSHA, BUT achieved by a person who is still in reincarnation cycle.

    Second, again observe that “hundred virgins” is used and NOT the word Apsara.

    The Sanskrit words used are “Kanya shtatam rameth”, Kanya=virgin; shthatam = 100; rameth=enjoys romantically

    Again, the pleasures are temporary, unlike islamic jannat. Again THIS IS NOT moksha, which is the highest in Hinduism.

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    Shiva Purana, Umasamhita 7.45-46 “Yama tells them -‘You are noble souls duly blessed, since you have performed what is ordained in the Vedas. Good deeds that are conducive to divine happiness have been performed by you. Ascend the celestial aerial chariot and go to heaven to enjoy the pleasures in the company of celestial damsels and fulfil your cherished desires.” Tr. J.L. Shastri
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    Umasamhita 7:47

    After enjoying the pleasures there, in the end when the merit is exhausted return to this place for reaping the fruit of what little evil you may have committed.

    First understand that Yama, the judge of the dead, is telling these things to the souls that stand in front of him. Those souls which have sinned, they are punished in hell. Those souls which have done charity, religious rites etc. are said the above verses.

    1. The verses clearly show that all these pleasures are temporary.
    2. They have to be. punished for even the little evil they commit.
    3. They are sent to reincarnating on Earth again.

    Clearly this is NOT moksha, the real heaven in Hinduism, which is obtained ONLY through correct knowledge directly experienced and seen on Earth.

    Another important point to note is what is translated as “celestial damsels”?

    The original Sanskrit verse uses the words “divya stree Bhoga”

    The word “divya” means belonging to higher world. “stree” is a word in singular for “woman” or “wife”. So “celestial damsels” in plural is wrong. The correct translation is “celestial wife or woman” in singular.

    NOTE again that this verse does NOT use the word APSARA.

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    Varaha Purana 149.24-25 “In Dvaraka which gives delight to the Vaisnavas, there is the great place called Pancasara which is a little within the shore. He who bathes there foregoing siz meals, delights himself with the Apsarases in heaven.”
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    Again, this is NOT for human beings and is Not accessible to human beings at all. This conversation is NOT between human beings as well.

    Again apsaras are NOT accessible to human beings. This is the rule of orthodox Hinduism and well learned scholars (of Hinduism) know this. So. your allegations are NOT correct.

    CONCLUSION

    1. HEAVENS in Hinduism is temporary world within material Universe

    2. There are temporary pleasures with women or girls in heaven for those who do good acts. However, these are temporary and NOT the ultimate end in Hinduism.

    3. Apsaras are NOT available for human beings at all. They usually marry gods (devatas) in Hinduism.

    4. MOKSHA in Hinduism is above the heavens and this is the ultimate goal of Hinduism.

    COMPARE THIS TO THE STUPID IDEA OF RESURRECTION WHERE DEAD BODIES RAISE AND BECOME ZOMBIES IN CHRISTIANITY TO LIVE WITH A FYING ZOMBIE.

  23. Found The Truth says:

    I just researched and found out that Hindu Heaven and Islamic Heaven both have heavenly prostitutes who will not age in beauty.

    These references of Hindu scripture and backed by Hindu scholars account for apsaras as heavenly prostitutes

    Shiva Purana, Vidyeshwara Samhita 1, 24.66-70 ”He who wears Tripundra raises a thousand predecessors and a thousand successors in his family. In this life he will enjoy all wordly pleasures… He will assume then a divine auspicious body endowed with eight accomplishments. He will travel by a divine aerial chariot attended by celestial gods… finally reach Brahma’s region where he will sport with a hundred virgins.” Tr. Board of Scholars, Edited by Jagdish Lal Shastri

    Devi Bhagavatam 4.6.56-58 ”The Apsaras said :– Of the five senses; sound, etc., the pleasures attained through the sensation of touch are excellent, and are reckoned as the source of Bliss; no other pleasures stand equal to it…If you like to go to Heaven, be pleased to know that there is no Superior Heaven to Gandhamadan (the mountain like intoxicating happiness of the senses). Dost thou enjoy the highest bliss, the pleasant sexual intercourse with us, the heavenly damsels in this very beautiful and lovely place.” Tr. Swami Vijnananda

    Brahma Vaivarta Purana, Krishna Janma Khanda 59.77-103 ”…Virtuous men, after having performed sacred deeds in India, go to heaven and there attended by celestial damsels enjoy celestial bliss for a long time…Fair one, this Heaven is not a field of action; it is a place of enjoyment. And of all enjoyments, association with an excellent woman is the best…” Tr. Rajendra Nath Sen, Edited by B.D. Basu

    Varaha Purana 149.24-25 “In Dvaraka which gives delight to the Vaisnavas, there is the great place called Pancasara which is a little within the shore. He who bathes there foregoing siz meals, delights himself with the Apsarases in heaven.” Tr. Venkitasubramonia Iyer, J.L. Shastri

    Shiva Purana, Umasamhita 7.45-46 “Yama tells them -‘You are noble souls duly blessed, since you have performed what is ordained in the Vedas. Good deeds that are conducive to divine happiness have been performed by you. Ascend the celestial aerial chariot and go to heaven to enjoy the pleasures in the company of celestial damsels and fulfil your cherished desires.” Tr. J.L. Shastri

  24. Continuum says:

    Found the untruth,
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    Many Midianite women seduced Israelite men and pulled them away from God (Numbers 25) so they were in no way innocent either.
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    How can women seduce unless the Israelites wanted to be seduced…Don’t you christians claim everybody has “free-will”? Why punish Midianite women for the choices made by Israelites?

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    Numbers 31 is not war, it is an act of judgement on an unrepentant people ho defied God and risked destroying the nation of Israel and the messianic line to Jesus.
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    Is it an act of judgment where Israelites killed all boys and kip virgin girls as Sex Slaves?

    Besides, why did your demon god allow generational slavery where slaves were passed down as Sex Slaves and slaves (Leviticus 25)?

    You are NOT convincing anybody here….ONLY BLIND CHRISTIAN BELIEVERS CAN JUSTIFY THESE CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR OF DEMON god Jehovah of bible.

  25. Found The Truth says:

    Jesus alone is sinless (Rest every human has sinned).

    The Old Testament records the history of man and God is morally acting here Numbers 31:7-18
    .

    But before I attempt to address your question, I think we need to address the definition of morality. In the Christian worldview, morality is grounded in the very nature of God. Therefore, actions aligning with God’s nature are morally good. Yes, God is loving, forgiving, gracious, and patient – so such things are morally good. But God is also righteous and just in His nature, so justice is also morally good. Keep that in mind.

    Let me start by offering a thought experiment:
    1.You travel back to an unknown moment in time. You are holding a high powered sniper rifle and centered in your scope is an unknown charismatic leader standing in front of thousands of followers, filling them with excitement and emotion. He is adored by these thousands of people. Your heart is racing, your palms are sweaty. As you center your reticle on this man, adored by thousands of people, you know that a single shot will end his life and no one will ever know whence the shot came. Is it immoral to take the shot?
    2.Same situation as #1, but the unknown speaker is actually Adolf Hitler and you’re in the middle of a 1939 NAZI power rally. Is it immoral to take the shot?

    By adding one small piece of information, the morality of the situation can change drastically. Now imagine that you know every thought of every person who has ever lived and will ever live. Imagine that you know what would have happened down the road from every possible decision of every person who ever lived, even if that decision was not made. Imagine you know the heart and intentions of everyone, and don’t have to guess based solely on their words or body language. Do you think it’s possible that, given this much additional information, someone could rightly judge what is best? Do you think his judgements would be unjust?

    The Bible is an historical account of God attempting to reach out to us and offer us a path to a relationship with Himself. This plan would culminate in Jesus paying that final payment and opening the door for billions of people to enter into that relationship. To reach this goal, God used the nation of Israel and set them apart. He established rules of worship, rules of civic conduct, and rules of moral behavior. Much of the Old Testament consists of stories of men breaking those rules and God reinforcing the fact that breaking those rules results in death – physical death in this case serving as a metaphor for the spiritual death (i.e. eternal separation from God). God was often harsh and strict with those rules so that Israel would remain intact long enough to usher in Jesus who would offer hope of deliverance from sin and death to the entire world.

    The Midianites were descended from Abraham and their ancestors would have been taught about God. Yet they turned away and worshipped man-made idols. Many Midianite women seduced Israelite men and pulled them away from God (Numbers 25) so they were in no way innocent either. Numbers 31 is not war, it is an act of judgement on an unrepentant people who defied God and risked destroying the nation of Israel and the messianic line to Jesus. So God destroyed the nation of Midian and used the nation of Israel as a means to accomplish that end. He could have sent a plague or an earthquake, but He made the Israelites do it so they could see first hand how serious He is about righteousness and justice, and that His coming judgement affects men, women, and children alike. Was God harsh in His judgement? Yes, very much so. Was this judgement immoral? No. It was an act of justice, a punishment for a guilty people, and therefore in complete alignment with God’s nature. In fact, this judgement should remind us of the severity of sin in the eyes of God and that, only by His patience and love, has He delayed judgement on the rest of us.

    The Lord isn’t really being slow about his promise, as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to be destroyed, but wants everyone to repent.

    2 Peter 3:9

    But if God exists, if He truly does have complete knowledge of all past, present and future, and He decided that ensuring the purity of Israel and the messianic line of Jesus was more important than enacting judgement on guilty people at that time and place and in that manner, then who are we to question Him? If He is the giver of all life, then is it not His prerogative to take it when and how He deems fit? Is it not possible that, like thought experiment #2, an all-knowing God would choose to do what leads to the salvation of the maximum number of people? Conversely, if God doesn’t exist, or if morality is not grounded in the nature of God, then who are we to say that anything is wrong? We are separated from this culture by thousands of years, and in the end, they were just stardust that formed into organic material and then disappeared forever. It doesn’t matter how they lived or how they died. So if God doesn’t exist, does our opinion on what is and is not “moral” really matter at all?

    this is story of a Hindu priest who became Christian
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzIjP1tnn4o&list=PLKAyEafgXmigUTgBuSmpDYl-M8oaLPeZX

  26. Continuum says:

    Untruth never Triumphs,

    Read all the verses…It is anything but defensive wars…

    Do you think generations of slaves (read Leviticus 25 quote) who were unbelievers were kept for defensive warfare?

    Do you think we are fools?

    Bible and adultery born jeebus are demonic beings

  27. Truth Triumps says:

    Hai, Continuum,
    In Old Testament few One Time Events are shown, that too for the Defense of Israelis. If those were to be followed, there is No Justification for Other Books up to Revelation in Bible. That is only Common Sense

  28. Continuum says:

    LETS SEE THE SAVAGE BIBLE ONE BY ONE SATISFY ALL THE REQUIREMENTS

    1. Child marriages with adults

    Numbers 31: (THIS IS NOT MARRIAGE BUT PEDOPHILIA AND RAPE all the same anyway)

    17 So now kill every male child, and every woman who can lie intimately with a man you shall kill.
    18 And all the young girls who have no experience of intimate relations with a man, you may keep alive for yourselves.

    2. Stoning of women and men

    Leviticus 20:10 and Deutoronomy 22:22

    10 And a man who commits adultery with [another] man’s wife, committing adultery with the wife of his fellow the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
    Rashi’s commentary:
    The adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death: Wherever a death penalty is mentioned in the Torah without specification [as to the mode of death, it exclusively refers to strangulation. — [Torath Kohanim 20:106, Sanh. 52b]

    Deuteronomy 22:23-24
    If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city.

    Leviticus 21:9 “And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire.”

    3. Rape

    Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

    As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.

    4. Taking women and children captive

    Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

    As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.

    5. Slavery

    Leviticus – Chapter 25 (NON-ISRAELITE SLAVE IS PERMANENT SLAVE AND IS PASSED AS PROPERTY FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION)
    1 And the Lord spoke to Moses on Mount Sinai, saying
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    44 Your male slave or female slave whom you may have from the nations that are around you, from them you may acquire a male slave or a female slave.
    45 And also from the children of the residents that live among you, from them you may acquire [slaves] and from their family that is with you whom they begot in your land, and they shall become your inheritance.
    46 You shall hold onto them as an inheritance for your children after you, as acquired property, and may thus have them serve you forever. But as for your brethren, the children of Israel, a man shall not work his brother with rigor.
    …………………………
    55 For the children of Israel are servants to Me; they are My servants, whom I took out of the land of Egypt. I am the Lord, your God.

    CLEARLY THESE RULES ARE GIVEN BY THE biblical demon god yahweh hIMSELF, just like the evil allah. LOOK AT VERSE 1 AT THE BEGINNING AND VERSE 55 AT THE END OF LEVITICUS CHAPTER 25 ABOVE. THIS IS CLEARLY COMMANDS FROM biblical god himself.

    6. Murder

    I Samuel – Chapter 15 (Genocide of suckling infants and even animals)

    3 Now, go, and you shall smite Amalek, and you shall utterly destroy all that is his, and you shall not have pity on him: and you shall slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.’ ”

    7. Female genital mutilation

    8. Inequality among men and women

    1 Corinthians 14

    Orderly Worship
    …33 For God is not a God of disorder, but of peace. As in all the congregations of the saints,
    34 women are to be silent in the churches. They are not permitted to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says.
    35 If they wish to inquire about something, they are to ask their own husbands at home; for it is dishonorable for a woman to speak in the church.…

    9. No freedom of religion

    Idolaters to Be Put to Death

    …8 you must not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity, and do not spare him or shield him.
    9 Instead, you must surely kill him. Your hand must be the first against him to put him to death, and then the hands of all the people.
    10 Stone him to death for trying to turn you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.…

    10. Division of humanity into believers and unbelievers based on religion

    Deuteronomy – Chapter 20

    10 When you approach a city to wage war against it, you shall propose peace to it.
    11 And it will be, if it responds to you with peace, and it opens up to you, then it will be, [that] all the people found therein shall become tributary to you, and they shall serve you.
    12 But if it does not make peace with you, and it wages war against you, you shall besiege it,
    13 and the Lord, your God, will deliver it into your hands, and you shall strike all its males with the edge of the sword.
    14 However, the women, the children, and the livestock, and all that is in the city, all its spoils you shall take for yourself, and you shall eat the spoils of your enemies, which the Lord, your God, has given you.
    15 Thus you shall do to all the cities that are very far from you, which are not of the cities of these nations.
    16. However, of these peoples’ cities, which the Lord, your God, gives you as an inheritance, you shall not allow any soul to live.
    17. Rather, you shall utterly destroy them: The Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivvites, and the Jebusites, as the Lord, your God, has commanded you.

    11. Eternal suffering

    Revelation 14:10-11
    10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.

    Matthew 13

    41 The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. 42 They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

    Matthew 10:28
    Chapter
    28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

    12. A prophet who is a rapist and sex maniac

    Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)

    Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. “Why have you let all the women live?” he demanded. “These are the very ones who followed Balaam’s advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD’s people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.

    Clearly Moses and God approves of rape of virgins.

  29. continuum says:

    The description of Heaven in Sanatan Dharma (Hinduism) is also of continuous availability of prostitutes (beautiful apsaras) and alcohol (amrut is an intoxicating brew). The only difference is it seems these prostitutes (apsaras) and alcohol are reserved for gods (god King Indra and his 33 crore gods who are actually demons) and for the supergods (Shiva, Vishnu and Brahma who are also gang rapists and have a criminal sheet of felonies)
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    Can you prove apsaras are prostitutes? I do not see one evidence for this claim. Just allegations…

    Again, where is it said that Amrut is an intoxicating brew? It is obvious the bastard jeebus worshipping christian scoundrel does NOT know what he is writing..

    There is NOT one place where any of the Gods of Hinduism have any such criminal behavior. This is all christian scoundrel’s imagination.

    The idiot does NOT even know that svarga Loka is also a temporary place between reincarnations of souls. The actual places moksha, where there is complete freedom from material body for al souls. This is completely spiritual existence free from matter.

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    The Christian heaven is described as a place of tranquility, peace, joy, worship and eternal bliss in the presence of Jesus and his Angels.
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    On the other hand, christianity like judaism believes in resurrection…the dead bodies will rise again like zombies….It is completely carnal place, where these zombies live with zombie bastard jeebus…What tranquility can you have with a god who sends people to hell?

  30. Found The Truth says:

    The description of Heaven in the Koran (Islam) is of continuous availability of sexual pleasures to men (not to women) and alcohol. This is reserved only for martyrs (dying for Islam cause).

    The description of Heaven in Sanatan Dharma (Hinduism) is also of continuous availability of prostitutes (beautiful apsaras) and alcohol (amrut is an intoxicating brew). The only difference is it seems these prostitutes (apsaras) and alcohol are reserved for gods (god King Indra and his 33 crore gods who are actually demons) and for the supergods (Shiva, Vishnu and Brahma who are also gang rapists and have a criminal sheet of felonies)

    The Christian heaven is described as a place of tranquility, peace, joy, worship and eternal bliss in the presence of Jesus and his Angels.

    If you need any documentary evidence (from their respective holy books) please let me know.

    Watch this testimony of a former RSS (anti Christian) member
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEADiLy6f6A

  31. Face_The_Truth says:

    If there were a “God the Father”, an “Allah” or a “Jehovah” as described by Christians, Muslims and Jews, by now there wouldn’t have remained a single non-believer on earth!

    Christians, Muslims and Jews are bold-faced liars.

    It is, however, good to see that Christians, Muslims and Jews kill each other off from time to time as a form of population-control.

    Happy 2019 to all of my readers!

  32. Lizzie says:

    Islam is one big lie perpetrated by satan. As if God would send an Angel to speak to a thief, murderer and rapist/pedophile/adulterer. Is it any wonder then that it’s fruits are dripping with evil.
    Mohammed accepted Moses as a prophet but not his message of God’s Ten Commandments.
    Most if not all of these Commandments are broken in the Koran and this gives serious offence to God.
    As things stand few muslims make heaven and 99% of Jihadists go to hell. They are lied to by the satanic Koran but think they will be rewarded for their acts of gross evil with sex. In heaven men and women do not behave as on earth and are just friends. There is no understanding in Islam,just lies.

  33. Walter Sieruk says:

    About number seven on the above list , F.G.M. This cruel, brutal and vicious Islamic tradition of female butchery which some Muslims so inappropriately call “female circumcision’ has spread like an infectious disease , or a plague , even to the USA. This heinous Islamic custom of misogyny has been exposed in the book by Brigitte Gabriel which is entitled THEY MUST BE STOPPED. For on page 178 it reveals to the reader that “One of the most devastating practices to young girls of the Islamic world is female genital mutilation. Young girls have their clitoris removed without anesthesia…”
    Indeed, they must be stopped !

  34. Walter Sieruk says:

    In the “Foreword “beginning part of the new book which has the title of JIHADIST PSYCHOPATH by Jamie Glazov it reveals the “Anyone who looks at the differences between the Islamic world and the West will easily see that the Muslim world is a failure while the West abounds in significant achievement… A couple of years ago, more books were translated in to Spanish in a single year than into Arabic in a thousand years.”
    There may be a number of reasons for the alliterate attitude on the part of the Muslim population of the Islamic world. One of which may be explained is that this non-book reading spirit is a c carryover from the historic Muslim worldview of things and continues into this twenty first century.

    For example, in history , one scholar ,in her book , informs her reader that “The Library of Alexandria was the center of intellectual life in the Hellenistic and Roman periods, holding scrolls of all Greek literature and thought ,joined by Latin works once the Roman world started writing anything worth reading. In 642 shortly after the founding of Islam, a Muslim army captured Alexandria, and their leader said ‘ If those books are in agreement with Koran , we have no need of them ; and if those are opposed to the Koran , destroy them.’ It took six months to burn to them all.” [1]

    In addition , of FOX NEWS, once some of its network reporters in Pakistan an interviewed the head of a madrasas and the news crew reporter sked him “Why you always have those boys in in school read and study only the Koran and neither any other book ?” That Muslim man who headed that Islamic school replied “The Koran contains all that is need in live to know , so no other book in necessary to read.”
    This may, in part, explain the Muslim alliterate spirit in the Islamic world as well as the backwardness’ and lack of progress in many Muslim nations . Also what Muslim who headed that madrasas for young boys gives further credence and proof to the claim that ,in realty, those Islamic “schools” are actually nothing but Islamic mind programming centers.

    [1] THE GREEKS by Diane Harris Cline 212,213.