My story of leaving Islam

Ali Sina

Ali Sina is the author of Understanding Muhammad and Muslims.

9 Responses

  1. Celebrate says:

    1) In the above, Ali Sina is proclaiming that he is following Jesus after his “alleged” exit from another faith. Need to see whether his new following will bring a change of brain and make any difference to the 1 sided attack agenda that he (and his like minded plotters gang) are trying to achieve. Why does one say so ? The answer lies in the cartel websites he runs which do not protest the – rapist culture, murderous wars and soldiers killing protesting teens and youths.

    (2) The blind silence of his cartel websites on the above mentioned topics, demonstrates his connivance with murders, rapes, slander unleashed on people and countries following other faith. I have experienced it first hand myself when arguing with him.

    (3) He mixed lies, deleted critical questions asked by me without any reply. It has been 5 yrs since, till now he has not published the full response (on this website) that i gave him, un-masking the lies he mixed with his reply, he edited his response after my rebuttal to suit his slanderous agenda, he gave a reference source by including his summary lines and when i analysed the reference source, to my shock, it had completely opposite information when compared to the summary lines which he peddled in his reply, the language and solutions he uses in replying to various questions from debaters violates the very own guidelines that he has published for his cartel websites

    (4) What solutions can one expect inorder to fight against religious bigotry across different faiths from such a manipulative person ?

    (5) [email protected]
    Looks like Anshar Abdul Rahman has un-masked Ali Sina’s slander and lies through his 402 pages e-book in reply to Ali Sina’s 312 pages e-book. Lets see if the “online deceit case” of $ 50,000 reward gets the light of Court some day. This is taking “online bigots game” of Ali Sina to an altogether different level which Ali Sina might never have encountered before with other debaters.

  2. Amir says:

    Hi I’m from Iran .I’m sorry world ban Iran and no true information about Iran people. .you must read Iran history or ask from parsis in India. .people in Iran have hardest experience from attack Islam Arabs for hundreds years. .now I want confirm your decide. .you know? In Iran had very scientist and writer that they wrote about this lays of Islam. .I’m sorry that books stay in Iran and no translate for other Islamic language. .now their book is Persian language. They wrote and search very good about page to page or line to line of quran and other Islamic book from start because we know very good Islam and Arabic and Arabs but other people in world no. .sure in Iran or Persia was from start a power resistance against radicalism .we had a different religious ..after Islam.resistance go to make a new religious named Shia. .that like Islam and zartoshtrian ..I hope people in world read from Iran thinker’s for example. Ahmad kasravi(very nooks like Shia Gary) he terror by radical Muslim in 70 years ago. . .Ali dashti (his book. 23 year) this book very years unknown writer because he threat from terror. .shojaldin shafa. .Dr masoud ansari. . and akhond Zade. .and TV program of Bahram moshiri in pars TV. ..and films saved from Reza fazeli. Is dead . .more this thinkers are dead. .They deeply analyzed Islam and cursed all questions and made them aware of and escaped from the very young people in Iran understand and exit but now we have an Islamic government. ..but The future is bright…

  3. Walter Sieruk says:

    This ,somewhat, is a reminder of the vast difference between the mentality of a Christian father who was disappointed because his daughter turned away from Jesus, in contrast to the mentality a Muslim father who was disappointed because his disappointed because she turned away from Islam.
    The Christian father might become sad and then pray for his daughter.. In terrible contrast the Muslim father might become outraged and then murder her in what he would call an “honor killing.”
    The difference between the Christian mindset and the Islamic mindset is outstanding.

  4. Vishal says:

    @Ali Sina

    Two men each stand in a dark corner and ask Gautama the Buddha the inevitable question, “Does God exist?” One a devout believer, the other an out-and-out atheist. What answer does each receive? You may be surprise after listening the answer

  5. Richard says:

    One more very simple argument – an elephant in the room if you like.

    If Islam is a peaceful religion that promotes the golden rule: Why on earth is there a whole chapter in the Koran entitled “Booty”?

  6. Steve says:

    “He feels as if he is a self-proclaimed winner despite making really weird interpretations,” Yes he is completely deluded.

    Ali Sina says

    “I have debated many Muslims, All they said can be summarized as:

    a) Denial of the authenticity of the Islamic sources that report the stories of crimes of Muhammad (example: debate with Edip Yukssel, the head of the Submitters).

    b) Moral relativism and situational ethics, i.e. “In those days, pedophilia, assassination, rape, theft, massacre and lying, were common practice, so Muhammad is innocent because he did what everyone else did.” Muslims even go as far as to question the legitimacy of the Golden Rule to claim we do not have any bases to condemn Muhammad. In other words evil can be good and vice versa (example: debate with Yamin Zakaria)

    These are the only two arguments that Muslims present. I am sorry but any rational person can see these are logical fallacies. Read these two debates. If all you want to do is to rehash the same logical fallacies, don’t waste your time, as you can see I have already responded to these arguments.”

    I think we can add a third category. Interpret the Koran and sunnah in a way which makes no sense and consequently turns it into completely incoherent gibberish.

    “He also talked about how having sex with slaves is like haram, especially married women” He is either lying or making up more BS based on his imagination again.

    “With regard to your question about it being permissible for a master to be intimate with his slave woman, the answer is that that is because Allaah has permitted it. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
    “And those who guard their chastity (i.e. private parts, from illegal sexual acts)

    6. Except from their wives or (the slaves) that their right hands possess, for then, they are free from blame”

    [al-Mu’minoon 23:6; al-Ma’aarij 70:30]

    That is subject to the condition that he has acquired her in a proper manner, and that this slave woman has not been given by her master in marriage to another man to whom she is still married. The reason why this is permitted is that this slave woman belongs to him, either because he has paid money to buy her or he has fought for the sake of Allaah (and acquired her among the war booty).

    Shaykh al-Shanqeeti (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The reason for which people may be taken as slaves is if they are kaafirs who are waging war against Allaah and His Messenger. If Allaah grants victory to the mujaahid Muslims, who are offering their souls, their wealth and all their resources and everything that Allaah has given them so that the word of Allaah might prevail over the kuffaar, then these kuffaar may become slaves, unless the imam chooses to let them go or to ransom them if that serves the interests of the Muslims.”

    “Shaykh al-Shanqeeti (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

    If it is said: If the slave is a Muslim, how can he be kept as a slave if the reason for which people may be taken as slaves is if they are kaafirs who are waging war against Allaah and His Messenger? The answer is that the basic principle which is well known to the scholars and all wise people is that a right that is already established by shar’i means cannot be superceded by rights that are established later on.

    When the Muslims take prisoners of war, they are given the right to enslave them by the law of the Creator of all, and He is the All-Wise, All-Aware. If this right is established, then the slave becomes a Muslim after that, his right to be freed from slavery because of his Islam is superceded by the right of the mujaahid whose right to enslave him took effect before he was a Muslim. It is not just or fair to waive the former right because of a latter right, as is well known to all wise people.

    Yes, it is good for the owner to set him free if he becomes Muslim, and Islam enjoins that and encourages it, and opens the door to doing so in many ways – he is referring to the fact that Allaah has decreed that when expiation takes the form of freeing a slave, the slave in question should be a Muslim”

    “With regard to Muslims owning slaves, he should be very careful to establish that those who are bought or sold now are indeed slaves, because Islam has limited the sources of slaves which were many before the coming of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and has allowed only one source, which is kaafir prisoners of war, when the kuffaar are fighting the Muslims. There is no other way in which they may be enslaved except those who are captured as a result of fighting between kaffirs and Muslims, or their children.”

    So of course Islam discourages slavery – except for the kufaars who you are permitted to enslave and rape because they didn’t convert to Islam or pay the jizya (protection) tax.

  7. I read the blogger’s points of view. He feels as if he is a self-proclaimed winner despite making really weird interpretations, like not addressing your first taking unbelievers as friends QURAN citation, instead pulling out another citation where he uses the word “among” to argue that the quote deals with a battle between believing and not believing Islam that occurs at the heart. Which does not help his case since if Islam was a true religion, this battle would not even exist. He also talked about how having sex with slaves is like haram, especially married women. However, Muhammad did not practice what he preached, conveniently making a loophole and raping Safiyah after murdering her husband. Even though u probably already know this, hopefully having this here will help you. If you ever end up in court for this issue, offer to debate him in person and have a group of people vote on who did better.
    Good luck!

  8. Ali Sina says:

    Anshar, You have made your so called rebuttal public. I invite people to read it. You refuted nothing. Just proved once again that Islam has no facts and is based only total lies. So demanding payment after making a fool of yourself and your religion is hilarious.

  9. Martin says:

    This is from the Blogger…


    I am looking for Ali Sina’s address. For anyone, the readers of this website, who can give me the real and the correct full address information of Ali Sina, I will divide the prize of US$ 10,000 for him/her after my demands succeed. It is confidential, I will not open the informer name to anyone. Please send information to my email address: [email protected]

    Instead of debating anyone here in this useless website, I would like to ask Alisina to deny everything that I have sent to him.

    The Chronology:

    1. In debate with Alisina at he suddenly pretended that his website was hacked by a stranger. Until now he has not denied my argument in the discussion. The debate can be read in this link:
    Please ask the Unknown scholar to read the above link carefully. He will find which one the “clear book” (5:15) “easy to understand” (44:58 , 54:22 , 54:32, 54:40) “explained in detail” (6:114), “conveyed clearly”, (5:16, 10:15) and with “no doubt” in it (2:1). All are inside of his heart. This book called by us as “concience”. When he lie to his wife or to his husband, his “clear book” will admonish him/her that “Hi the Unknown scholar, you are lie…”. The one who admonish him by whispering kindness every time is “easy to understand, explain in detail, conveyed clearly and no doubt”. If he does not believe it, means he does not believe himself. The question, is his concience still clear or still no doubt? If the answer is no, means the unbelievers (kuffar) who always using carnal desires and whispering evil everytime already covered his diamond of heart.

    2. At that time I asked Alisina to drop all his charges to fulfil his promising because he lost the debate. He said that he would send a video. The video is about an ex Muslim asking one verse in Al-Quran that should be answered by me first. Then I explained and denied the video as well as denied the bad issue of slavery in Islam. My denial can be seen at the blog address below:

    3. But after that he still argued, then he asked me to refute his e-book as thick as 312 pages titled “Understanding Muhammad and Muslims”. I have made a 402 pages e-book and have sent it to him more than a month ago. In the rebuttal of this book, I open up all his trickery and rottenness in his book. He is an unfair scholar, for example deliberately cutting off the contents of hadiths or deliberately not quoting additional hadiths explain the same case or misinterpretation of Qur’anic verses.

    4. After I sent him e-book of rebuttal, I asked him persuasively to pay the reward that he promised according to his ability, just to prove that he has accepted my denial. But he replied that I was delusional. If I delusional then please refute my e-book, please deny one by one of the issues that I reverted to him. I have submitted all documents to my lawyer in Canada. I will not report regarding blasphemy issue but I will report it regarding an online deceit issue. He had promised a $ 50,000 reward but it turned out to be a planned fraudulent. He becomes deceiver. I will demand it $ 50,000 + $ 50,000. No more persuasive negotiations, once my report submitted into Canada’s police.