Why doesn’t God simply show himself to the people and declare every night- Islam is true, follow Muhammad?
This is a question that is often asked by agnostics/atheists to believers- “Why doesn’t God simply show Himself to the people to dispel all doubts that He exists?” Simply showing Himself to humanity will also help a lot of people, since the world runs on hope and optimism. Belief in God often gives people the feeling “The Almighty is behind me. He will take care of me”. Even in sad and desperate situations, believers can be optimistic and hopeful and live a happier life. So, it is very important that God show Himself to people so that they at least feel reassured that there is God behind them to help them, if not to prove to mankind that God’s only true religion is Islam.
Now many believers and people like Dr Zakir Naik have tried to answer this question. We simply quote Zakir Naik :
“The questioner asked a question that he has a friend who believes that there is one supernatural power, but if Islam is right, then why doesn’t Allah come down and say that I am God, worship me, so that everyone would believe???
There is a verse in the Quran in Yunus, Chapter 10, Verse 99:
“If it had been thy Lord’s will, he would have made all human beings as believers,- all who are on earth!….”
It is very easy for him to do that!!! But this is a test we are undergoing… Allah says in Al-Mulk, Chapter 67, Verse 2:
“He Who created Death and Life, that He may test which of you is best in deed: and He is the Exalted in Might, Oft-Forgiving;- “
So this life is the test for the hereafter… The human beings are the best of the creations of Allah SWT, he gave us freewill to either go with the orders of Allah SWT or against the orders of Allah SWT… Those who obey Allah SWT and submit their will to Allah SWT are called as Muslims… and those who go against him and disobey him are called as Kafirs(disbelievers)…
For example, if in an examination test, where the students are giving an examination, so one of the students says: “Why is the teacher testing us? Why doesn’t she come and show us all the answers and everyone will write the right answer?”!!! If the teacher comes and dictates the answer, then where is the question of the test??? So the teacher before the test taught you many things… Told you, and now it is you who have to remember back then and ask questions at that time… That is why Allah SWT has revealed the Quran and He has given you signs… Allah SWT says in the Quran in Fussilat, Chapter 41, Verse 53:
“Soon will We show them our Signs in the (furthest) regions (of the Horizons), and in their own souls, until it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth. Is it not enough that thy Lord doth witness all things?”... So Allah SWT said that He will show you the truth in the soul of every human being… Now after they come to know the truth, whether they believe or not is their problem… So the teacher before the examination, she teaches that 2+2=4… In the Examination whether you write 3, 5 or 4 it is your problem… So Allah SWT has directly by himself showed you his signs in the Horizons though the sun, through the stars, through his creations and He himself will make it evident, and it is a promise that every human being will believe in one God, BUT after that, do they agree with the commandments or not that is secondary…
So this is a test we are undergoing, those who submit their will to Allah SWT they are called as Muslims, and they will be rewarded in the next life… and those who disobey they will be punished…”
Naturally this is a ridiculous answer and a ridiculous analogy. Why should God ‘test’ people without proof? Zakir Naik is of course assuming that Allah wrote the Quran. What is the proof of that- since it was dictated by Muhammad? A God like Allah who needs Angels like Gabriel to do his work, who lives only in a particular part of the Universe and who cannot even give good stationery to his chosen Messenger to record the Quran and makes his followers write it on palm trees, stones, camel bones in a language where the whole meaning can change with the slightest change in alphabet, and whose book Quran saw many versions within 20 years of the death of Muhammad is of course very unlikely to write the Quran.
And God definitely did not write the Quran since the Quran is an evidence is that Islam is false. This book contains many mistakes, many contradictions (E.g. The food for the people in Hell will be only “Dhari” 88:6, only foul pus from the washing of wounds 69:36, or will they also get to eat from the tree of Zaqqum 37:62-66?) and many inaccuracies with regards to modern scientific knowledge as well as reference to historic and Biblical characters (E.g. the Quran says that Samaritans lived during Moses’ time, which they didn’t).
Actually Chapter 41 Verse 53 itself is a proof that Islam is false. “Soon will We show them our Signs in the (furthest) regions (of the Horizons), and in their own souls, until it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth. Is it not enough that thy Lord doth witness all things?” But this God did not show any signs, did not re arrange stars in a manner that they read at night “Islam is true”, filled the Quran with errors, mistakes and contradictions, and did absolutely nothing to prove that Islam is from God either during Muhammad’s time or later. Far from showing his signs in the furthest of regions, God actually kept the Muslims (and also the rest of the world) completely unaware about two whole continents of the world- viz South America and North America until nearly 900 years of the birth of Islam! Christopher Columbus accidentally discovered America in 1492 and thought that he had reached India!
Look at the other passage quoted by Zakir Naik – Chapter 10, Verse 99:
“If it had been thy Lord’s will, he would have made all human beings as believers,- all who are on earth!” This is another point which will go against Islam. If God could have easily made all humans as believers then why is the message of Islam ‘convert or kill’ with unbelievers being allowed to remain as “Dhimmis” paying the Jizyah tax in the first instance? The whole Quran contains more than 70 passages urging Muslims to wage war on non-Muslims, convert or kill them and shun them in this life and the next. Apostates i.e. those Muslims who leave Islam are given death penalty. This is the legal provision in many Muslim countries even today, like Afghanistan a state supposedly rescued by liberals from the radical Taliban, which gives death penalty for leaving Islam. If there is no compulsion in religion and God can easily make all humans as believers then why should apostates be given death penalty?The Quran in 2:27, 2:39, 3:90-91, 4:89, 9:66, 9:74, 47:25-26 makes it clear that apostates are to be punished. Some passages of the Quran are quoted below:
“8:60 And prepare against them what force you can and horses tied at the frontier, to terrorize thereby the enemy of Allah…
8:12 I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
Unbelievers
2:191, And slay them wherever ye catch them
2:193, And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression
2:216, Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you
3:28, Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah
8:15-16, O ye who believe! when ye meet the Unbelievers in hostile array, never turn your backs to them. If any do turn his back to them on such a day – unless it be in a stratagem of war, or to retreat to a troop (of his own)- he draws on himself the wrath of Allah, and his abode is Hell,- an evil refuge (indeed)!
8:17, It is not ye who slew them; it was Allah: when thou threwest (a handful of dust), it was not thy act, but Allah’s: in order that He might test the Believers by a gracious trial from Himself
8:65, O Prophet! rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers
9:5, But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the idolators wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem.
9:73, O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed
9:123, O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear Him.
8:39, And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere.”
These are just a few of the many passages of the Quran where Muslims are ordered to convert or kill unbelievers. If God can make all humans believers, then why does he force Muslims to do his work of killing and converting unbelievers when he could have done so Himself? Also, this same God does the following :
- * Intentionally preventing unbelievers from knowing the truth-> 6:25 6:110
- * Intentionally preventing unbelievers from Understanding Quran-> 17:45-76
- * It is God who causes people to err and He punishes them for that-> 17:97
- * God could guide, if he chose to, but did not-> 6:35
- * Intentionally misguiding those whom he pleases to->14:4
- * Willfully misguiding some-> 16:93
- * God causes human to err-> 4:143 7:178
- * God deceiving human-> 4:142
So God deliberately keeps unbelievers away from Islam and then punishes them for that- this is sadism. And if this is the case, then how can unbelievers ‘fail the test’ when their fate is already sealed by God?
What a ridiculous analogy of students and teachers! Students are tested to know how much they have learnt and progressed, or many times tests are kept just for the reason that students may study (practice tests) for the big tests. (For example, giving Mock CAT tests before taking the actual CAT exam for MBA) Before the test, students know that there is going to be a test and try their best to prepare for it. Did God tell all humans before their birth that Islam is true, that their lives on earth will be a test, and they have to pass his test of faith by following his religion correctly? Students saying “Teacher should show us the answers” would completely end the meaning of the test, how would God showing Himself to humans end the meaning of Our ‘test’?
On the contrary, it would be a very good thing, since it should prove to humanity that God exists and that he indeed is testing us, and this would enable humans to consciously follow Islam to pass the ‘test’ of God. A God who doesn’t even inform humans about ‘testing’ them and throws them in Hell forever for failing his tests is not a true God. Also, students are ‘tested’ for 2 things- to know how much knowledge they have gained, which is very essential for their progress, and often to make them study and improve their performance in the final big exam. For what reason would God ‘test’ mankind? God being Omniscient would already know everything about mankind. And then such a God who ‘tests’ people keeps nearly 80 % of the people unaware about his own true religion, keeps continents like North and South America unknown to the rest of the world for nearly 900 years after Islam’s birth!
In this case, Zakir Naik has given a ridiculous analogy that asking “Why doesn’t God show Himself” is like students asking “Why doesn’t the teacher show us the answers in a test?” Firstly, the fact that life is a test is assumed by Zakir Naik, which is completely unproven and most likely untrue. Secondly, here asking God to show himself is like asking the TEACHER to show herself, the teacher who takes the test is expected to show herself. We are not asking for answers of the questions to be shown. Zakir Naik is not a scholar but a showman, he has a great memory and can impress the audience temporarily with his words. He has been completely exposed here by Ali Sina.
This is a video of a debate between Zakir Naik’s guru Abdullah Thariq in a debate with Mahendra Pal Arya in full:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zIujH5R9m0
Again we must quote the virus thing. God testing humans is like tiny invisible viruses living somewhere on a drop of water somewhere down the Pacific Ocean are being ‘tested’ by God without even being told that they are being tested and God doesn’t even show Himself to them. Just that one of the other viruses claims that he is from God, sent by God to guide them. Man has been around for hundreds of thousands of years on this earth, and yet there is not a single instance recorded of God showing Himself to humanity. God is supposed to be omnipresent and be able to do all the things. Would a true God play hide-and-seek with humans and not show Himself to mankind ever since the birth of mankind? Also, there are so many crimes committed in the name of God by misguided followers who genuinely believe that they are doing the right thing and spreading faith in God.
Those Islamic fanatics who destroyed idols of the Hindu Goddess Tulja Bhavani in Tuljapur in Maharashtra, India genuinely believed that they did a sacred and a very good thing, whereas the others who are devotees of Goddess Tulja Bhavani (like Shivaji was) will feel exactly the opposite. At least one of these two must be wrong. Now God should show Himself here and directly tell the wrong group that the other group is right and to stop destruction in His name. Many claim that the radical Muslims who killed unbelievers in 26/11 and 9/11 did not follow true Islam. But they genuinely believed that they were following true Islam and doing the right thing for God. Now, God being omniscient would have known that innocent people were going to be killed by radicals (either from his own true religion, or from a false religion) and should have shown Himself to these radicals and told them not to kill in his name!
I am laughing at this. How the author is himself confused and contradicting his own statements on Quran. He doesn’t know any Usul al tafseer, usual al Fiqh, usul al hadith, ilm sarf and nahv and the 18 uloom to understand Quran. These are the astray people who chose to walk on error and took the mutashabihat ayat’s of the Quran instead of the muhkamat. Allah said in the Quran that he makes the person go astray with the same ayah and with the same ayah he guides a person. But this man fails to understand because he doesn’t want truth to go into his throat and doesn’t know that there is a thing called niyyah which is already present in the very first and second chapter of Quran.
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CHRISTIAN GOD SUPPORTS SEX SLAVERY, ARRANGED MARRIAGES, AND POLYGAMY
Christians often claim that if we just return to the morality of the Bible, all will be well.
This is ludicrous!
Just one example is needed to show the folly of such a Christian claim.
Consider Exodus 21:7-11:
“If a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, then he shall let her be bought back again; but he has no power to sell her to foreigners, since he has wronged her by no longer wanting her after marrying her. And if he arranges an engagement between a Hebrew slave girl and his son, then he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but must treat her as a daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing, or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three things, then she may leave freely without any payment.”
Here in the “holy” book allegedly inspired by Christian God, we see that Christian God supports the idea that women are the property of men, that a man can sell his daughter into slavery, that the buyer can arrange a marriage for her, and that the man can take on additional wives.
What do Christians say about this?
Usually that the Old Testament doesn’t count.
If that’s the case, then Christians should remove the Old Testament from their Bibles.
But even that, Christians should not be allowed to get away with this charade — the God of the Old Testament is the same God that Christians worship.
Christians are fond of saying that morality and what is right or wrong doesn’t change because God doesn’t change!
Christians broadcast the idea that morality does not change over time and therefore claim, for example, that homosexuality cannot ever be accepted because it is clearly considered an abomination in the “Super Holy” Bible.
Given that, then Christians should still be able to sell their daughters into slavery because Christian God doesn’t change, and it is STILL IN THE BIBLE.
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TINY DRAMA/ HUGE STAGE
At the time the “Super Holy” Bible was created, most people viewed the earth as the center of the universe and that the sun, stars, planets, and moon revolved around its flat surface.
Christianity is based on this world view, placing an emphasis on humans as the ultimate reason that the universe was created in the first place.
Not only is Christianity earth-centered, but it was also limited to a few hundred square miles in its beginning and did not reach all areas of the earth until about 1500 years later.
Further, Christianity is limited in its overall time scope to something less than 10,000 years.
What we have since learned about the age and size of the universe has spectacularly dwarfed the Christian world view!
Instead of 10,000 years old, the universe is 13,700,000,000 years old.
Instead of the earth and a few objects orbiting around it, we have the earth, 4,500,000,000 years old, orbiting the sun, which is just one of over 100,000,000,000 stars in the Milky Way galaxy, which itself is only one of at least 200,000,000,000 galaxies in the observable universe.
The idea that all of this was created so that Christian God could create and test human beings is absurd.
If that was so, then:
— Why did Christian God wait 9,200,000,000 years after creating the universe to construct the earth?
— Why did Christian God wait 4,500,000,000 years after creating the earth to create human beings?
— Why did Christian God wait 100,000 years after creating modern human beings before making any contact with them?
— Why did Christian God allow 3,500 years to pass after the initial contact with humans was made before Christian God’s word had spread world-wide?
These thoughts are best summed up by a quote from Richard Feynman:
“It doesn’t seem to me that this fantastically marvelous universe, this tremendous range of time and space and different kinds of animals, and all the different planets, and all these atoms with all their motions, and so on, all this complicated thing can merely be a stage so that [Christian] God can watch human beings struggle for good and evil — which is the view that [Christian] religion has.
The stage is too big for the drama.”
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God has every intention of replying to islam. In three and a half years the end of times will arrive and then Islam will be addressed and removed forever. The Clock is ticking ever louder and muslims do not realise the price they will pay for their murders,tortures,bombs,persecutions and other thefts and deceptions. Decent people of all faiths will pass through the last day but from my understanding few adult muslims will make it. Remember satan will rise up in the last days and his religion of Islam is doing just that with acts of extreme barabarity and evil. Judgement is coming.
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ROMAN BIAS
As mentioned, almost all of the eyewitnesses of Jesus’s ministry were dead by the time of the gospel writings, either of natural causes or as a result of the Jewish-Roman war that began in AD 66.
The band of Jewish followers of Jesus, led by his brother James, no longer existed.
The only Christians remaining were the Romans and other gentiles who were followers of Paul’s concept of Christianity.
Consequently, the gospels are told in a manner consistent with Paul’s theology and also with an anti-Jewish, pro-Roman bias.
One of the best examples of this bias is the exoneration of Pontius Pilate and the condemnation of the Jews for Jesus’s death (Matthew 27:24), a fabrication of the first order (and one that has had tragic consequences for Jewish people for the past two millennia).
Another is the story of the Roman centurion who was allegedly commended by Jesus for having more faith than anybody else in Israel (Matthew 8:5-13).
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Ron
“Anyways if we ask our Lord and Saviour Jesus to guide us, He surely does respond, irrespective of our current or prior belief system..” Except to the billions of people who are not aware of the existence of your God – which is the point made in this article.
Steve,
I believe in this forum Phoenix is very good at logic and philosophy and so I would leave it to him to answer your points.
Anyways if we ask our Lord and Saviour Jesus to guide us, He surely does respond, irrespective of our current or prior belief system..
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FAILURE TO RETURN
Biblical historians are quite clear on this matter — Early Christians, notably Jesus, Paul, the disciples, and other followers were all convinced that the end of times was near and that an earthly kingdom presided over by Jesus would be established within the lifetime of some people who were then currently alive.
The “Super Holy” Bible claims that Jesus made the following comment:
Matthew 16:28
“Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”
Jesus also advised against going to court against someone who steals from you and also told people not to store up stocks or reserves for the future!
Clearly, Jesus thought the end was very near!
Likewise, Paul advised followers not to marry and that the end time was near!
In this scripture Paul obviously believes that some of the people Paul is talking to will still be alive at the second coming.
I Thessalonians 4: 16-18
“For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.”
The obvious fact is that the second coming was NOT forthcoming at that time, or even close to being near.
The nearly 2000-year delay is a strong piece of evidence that Christianity is a failed religion!
The following quote from Dr. Stephen L. Harris, Professor Emeritus of Humanities and Religious Studies at California State University — Sacramento, completes this point with a devastating argument.
Remember that Jesus was a Jew who had no intention to deviate from the Hebrew scriptures: ‘Jesus did not accomplish what Israel’s prophets said the Messiah was commissioned to do: Jesus did not deliver the covenant people from their Gentile enemies, reassemble those scattered in the Diaspora, restore the Davidic kingdom, or establish universal peace (cf.Isa. 9:6–7; 11:7–12:16, etc.).
Instead of freeing Jews from oppressors and thereby fulfilling God’s ancient promises — for land, nationhood, kingship, and blessing — Jesus died a “shameful” death, defeated by the very political powers the Messiah was prophesied to overcome.
Indeed, the Hebrew prophets did not foresee that Israel’s savior would be executed as a common criminal by Gentiles, making Jesus’ crucifixion a “stumbling block” to scripturally literate Jews. (1 Cor.1:23)’
The fact that Jesus was wrong about the end of the world is good news to all of us alive today because otherwise we would not have been born.
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+Ron
“Even I used to think of the same logic and changed my view when I was given the following example.
If you make a doll(robot) programmed to answer you “ I love you” whatever you do to it or say to it.
Can you then infer that the doll loves me always.? No?
It was not the free will answer of the doll.
For free will to exist there always has to be choice of the opposites (ie contraries) and not even a boolean choice.
May Jesus reveal himself to you even as you sincerely search for him.”
Several points
1) “Free will” is completely irrelevant to this argument.
2) Even in a world where determinism or pre-determinism isn’t true a omniscient God will still know the future. (Which would include all “freely willed” decisions/choices of human beings).
3)An all loving God who wants all humans to have a relationship with him will only bring those humans who want a relationship with him into existence and not those who do not want to know him or are not even aware of his existence. (I,e those who don’t believe in the existence of any God or those who believe in the existence of other gods).
3)So either one of these possibilities are true.
A)God doesn’t exist.
B)God is not omniscient (which also means he is not omnipotent).
C)God is evil or indifferent or incompetent.
“For free will to exist there always has to be choice of the opposites (ie contraries) and not even a boolean choice.” If I offer you two cups one with a harmless drink and another containing a lethal poison I know which one you will choose. My knowledge doesn’t violate your “free will”. (And people that don’t believe in your God are not even in the position of making a decision. Just like someone who doesn’t believe their drink contains a lethal poison cannot take the option not to drink – since they don’t know their drink is in fact poisoned).
Steve,
Even I used to think of the same logic and changed my view when I was given the following example.
If you make a doll(robot) programmed to answer you “ I love you” whatever you do to it or say to it.
Can you then infer that the doll loves me always.? No?
It was not the free will answer of the doll.
For free will to exist there always has to be choice of the opposites (ie contraries) and not even a boolean choice.
May Jesus reveal himself to you even as you sincerely search for him.
An omnipotent and omniscient God could simply have only brought people who believe in him into existence and not the people who will go to hell (“free will” or not is irrevalant to this and there is no free will escape clause here.)
No religious person has any (logical) answer to this this.
Huh – just pick and choose verses – deliberately misunderstand them – and then use them to support a view which you had already long before you ever saw those verses.
At that point it was only the disciples – not jews in general – who were being given the key to the code. IF you actually read the whole chapter then that is quite clear – but you of course have to obscure that point – because it undermines your thesis.
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JESUS PURPOSELY CONFUSES OUTSIDERS SO THEY WON’T BE SAVED
The following scripture is from Mark 4:11-12:
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“And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.”
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This is one of the surviving scriptures that reveal the real, historical Jesus.
The reason that it is considered a genuine quote, or at least the general idea of what Jesus preached, is that it is contrary to the finished product of Christian theology — that all people can be saved.
Some of what Jesus allegedly said after resurrecting (in scriptures that are likely forgeries), to go to all nations and preach the word, directly contradicts what is being said here.
What is revealed by this scripture is that Jesus’s ministry was targeted only to the Jews.
That is why Jesus preached only to the Jews and used language, idioms, and parables to confuse the non-Jews who might be overhearing Jesus’s message.
Jesus had no intention to bring his message of salvation to the Gentiles, who, as revealed in other scriptures, Jesus clearly disdained.
Therefore, Christianity is a forgery of Jesus’s true mission.
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