The Trinity for Dummies

Ali Sina

Ali Sina is the author of Understanding Muhammad and Muslims.

8 Responses

  1. Ucok says:

    Concept of trinity always becomes hot topic among non Christian fellows. At the end the faith will justify the view. If you believe in it then trinity can be understood in many ways which it will always be object of debate for non believer of the concept.
    Existence of religion is always based only on faith, it contradicts to science that always doubting about many things which lead into researching it.

    Muslims won’t be able to understand concept of trinity because they don’t have faith in it. As simple as that. Is it right or wrong? Talking about faith there is no right or wrong because it will never be able to be proven as it is not scientific.

    Ultimately for a religion to be relevant in society is to show positive impact to people’s life universally regardless their faith, race, gender etc because world has never been homogeneous.

    Muslims have to take stand to confront and correct their brothers and start to see their fellow believers without religious ambiguity if they are doing wrong. In many cases Muslims failed to show their willingness to participate in confronting wrong doing in the name of Islam by their radical fellow brothers. This reluctance is shown by keeping silent especially in conflict involving Muslims and non Muslims. Or in many cases their condemnation is only lip service without real action.

    In the case like Boko Haram, why is there no enthusiastic response like fighting Assad in Syria? If Boko Haram is true un-Islamic, then what they are doing in the name of Islam is tainting the name of Islam, it is an insult to Islam that deserves Jihad. In reality Muslims see it in the contrary.

    In Indonesia, for many muslims, Trio Bali bombing earned more respect than Shiite or Ahmadiyah although their acts (bombing) were considered (officially) un-Islamic.

  2. Muslim22 says:

    AliSina_FFI 
    Some people gave you way to much attention that you don’t deserve,as for me you are merely a charlatan.It seems to me the old age take a great  chunk from your little sensitive brain.What left for you now just your filthy mouth like a dog with rabies,The infection already spreads to your spinal cord and brain. You showed me the signs in your logic .You know damn right i got you in this one .lol
    Keep pretending that everyone understood your article,apparently that’s  an easy way to ease the pain of the bad thinking in the first place. So keep barking and I will keep feeding you treats from time to time to keep me entertained  with your amazing ideas.

    I’ll be right back .

  3. AliSina_FFI says:

    @Muslim22 
    You just proved my point that Muslims are the stupidest people in the world. I think everyone understood my article. Muslims are the only ones who can’t.

  4. Muslim22 says:

    Allow me to look to your idea from
    another perspective .
    You said : “The truth is that
    everyone is a trinity. Is it not true that each person consists of a
    mind, a body and a soul? So are you one or three? The question is
    absurd. “

    That’s true I’m one in this case. So
    for your dummies Christians that are in such a climax for this
    stupid idea. They haven’t read the bible nor they can comprehend a
    simple idea from it, when I say they I mean you Ali sinner as well
    .

    Let’s take the body,soul and mind are
    one . Now we are going to take one out of that,let’s say we take the
    brain ,or soul out of those three and put it in another dimension .
    The question is :

    Can the one that we took from the body
    call the rest I am ? Of couse it can because it is still one . For
    your dummies Jesus never called God I am,or did he ? Nor God called
    Jesus I am .

    Jesus peace be upon him prayed to God (
    the father ), he never said I’m God in the heavens .

    “My teaching is not my own. It comes from
    him who sent me. If anyone chooses to do God’s will, he will find out
    whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own.”
    —John 7:16
    Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli,
    Eli, lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why
    have you forsaken me?”).

    You wrote : “ I explained that in the
    rest of my article. I said God can be in two different places without
    splitting himself. It was the poor Muhammad and his brain dead
    followers that can’t understand this.”

    I think you are the one and your
    Christians who are brain dead CAN NOT and will not be able to understand
    a simple think that Jesus said ,how much examples can Jesus tell you
    in the bible that he is not God…”For I have come down from heaven
    not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.”
    Who
    are you trying to fool ? If he was God why he prayed to himself, why
    he used the the 3rd pronoun to call God “ my father”,and again
    the body,soul and brain are one can this ( ONE ) be the son and the
    father at the same time ? What are you thinking Mr charlatan know it
    all ? Lol . This is really hilarious and an exciting thinking . At
    least your Christians followers they don’t know ( they already
    declaired are dummies ) and that’s fair enough from there part . but
    you coming up with these ideas you must be on something .

    You nailed it Mr Ali Sinner nothing
    left to me to add to this subject,what can I say: The Trinity for
    Dummies by Dummy Ali Sinner. BRAVO !!!!!!!!!!!

  5. Muslim22 says:

    What I thought about you since I heard you talking at sean
    hannity, I was right. I think you are getting old and I think you
    need to take a break man .
    Yes the christians are my brothers and sisters,and I have to
    respecet their thoughts and their religion because Islam ordered me
    to do that . 
    (37) وَلَا
    تُجَادِلُوا أَهْلَ الْكِتَابِ إِلَّا
    بِالَّتِي هِيَ أَحْسَنُ إِلَّا الَّذِينَ
    ظَلَمُوا مِنْهُمْ ۖ وَقُولُوا آمَنَّا
    بِالَّذِي أُنزِلَ إِلَيْنَا وَأُنزِلَ
    إِلَيْكُمْ وَإِلَـٰهُنَا 

    وَإِلَـٰهُكُمْ
    وَاحِدٌ وَنَحْنُ لَهُ مُسْلِمُونَ
    “And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way
    that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and
    say, “We believe in that which has been revealed to us and
    revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims
    [in submission] to Him.”

    So hence I consider them my brothers
    and sisters unless you want to put words in my mouth like you always do
    when it comes to Islam and its prophet…

    I don’t have to accept your idea
    because I have a brain not like these fools they are already
    recognizing they are stupid . (Look at the comments in this section)
    if they are stupid does that make you more stupider then them ?

    You said : “ Are the 200 plus
    Christian girls reduced to slaves by your brothers of Boko Haram also
    your sisters? …etc “ 
    Those crack heads are druggies and they are
    not my brothers,those girls are my sisters . Islam came against those
    kind of people Boko Harama and others ,I don’t have to remind you of the Arab pagans they were worst
    then what you see now in the news . Not anyone says Allaho akbar is a
    Muslim. You are getting old and you are confusing between Islam and
    what so called “Muslims” today. If it happens that you are  in New York wearing a Shirt has Paris in it does that make you a
    Frenchman ?
     If I have a chance to go fight and bring those girls to
    their families I will do it in a heart beat …Unlike you Mr Ali
    sinner you wanted to nuke all Muslims kids ,young and old which make
    you worst then these boko haram, an animal actually there is no category to put you in
    .
     Unlike in Islam,War has rules don’t kill animals,don’t burn
    trees,don’t destroy building, don’t kill kids and the elderly fight
    only your enemy and even your enemy surrounded you feed them from
    your food and you clothes from your clothes and you treat them
    good…But You Mr Ali sinner you want to nuke the ones you hate . I
    don’t think you believe in God at all and you are making fun of
    Christians too but they just don’t say it , all what they see and
    hear what you said about Islam . 
    If you are talking about Muslims today
    I agree with you 100 % they are not Muslims at all.Honour
    killing,killing innocent people …etc that has nothing to do with
    Islam,Islam came against all these evil behaviours,there is evil
    wherever you go my old man .

    …So
    We decreed for the tribe of Israel that if someone kills another
    person – unless it is in retaliation for someone else or for causing
    corruption in the earth – it is as if he had murdered all mankind.
    And if anyone gives life to another person, it is as if he had given
    life to all mankind. Our Messengers came to them with Clear Signs but
    even after that many of them committed outrages in the earth. (Qur’an
    5: 32)

    In yet another verse,God issues the following commandment:

    Say:
    ‘Come and I will recite to you what your Lord has made forbidden for
    you’: that you do not associate anything with Him; that you are good
    to your parents; that you do not kill your children because of
    poverty – We will provide for you and them; that you do not approach
    indecency – outward or inward; that you do not kill any person God
    has made inviolate – except with the right to do so. That is what He
    instructs you to do so that hopefully you will use your intellect.
    (Qur’an 6: 151)

    According to Islam it is a great sin to kill an innocent
    person,and anyone who does so will suffer great torment in the
    hereafter.

    …So
    We decreed for the tribe of Israel that if someone kills another
    person – unless it is in retaliation for someone else or for causing
    corruption in the earth – it is as if he had murdered all mankind.
    And if anyone gives life to another person, it is as if he had given
    life to all mankind. Our Messengers came to them with Clear Signs but
    even after that many of them committed outrages in the earth. (Qur’an
    5: 32)

    Muhamed the prophet that you hate so much said if you don’t have
    mercy and pity in your heart towars what Allah created from humans and animals , how do you expect
    his mercy and pity on you ? 
    And that speaks volume,But you old man ( الشيخ
    الهرم )
    getting old start talking nonsense making yourself believe that
    billions of people agree with you. I can see your selfishness by
    saying even a Hindus agree with me lol, you are doing it again
    humiliating Hinduism like saying even the dumbest people ( Hinduism
    ) can agree with you…..big deal they did .

    As a french wisdom says : “ Les
    chiens aboient,la caravane passe “

    I made it clear,the verses made it
    clear that you are a crazy person in his thoughts take a break will
    you ?

    You said you read arabic I sum it up
    with this beautiful poetry :

    ضريبك
    في بني الدنيا قليل            وعز الله ربك من
    ضريب 

    وماالعلماء
    والجهلاء             إلا قريب حينما تنظر من
    قريب

    You are ignorant and you think you are smart. You are a very smart
    person in his ignorance I give you that .

    The
    ideas that inspired the French Revolution and the Declaration of
    Rights, that guided the framing of the American Constitution and
    inflamed that struggle for independence in the Latin American
    countries [and elsewhere] were not inventions of the West. They find
    their ultimate inspiration and source in the Holy Quran.” (Prof.
    Robert Briffault, The Making of Humanity)
    The
    truths in the above extracts are an indication of the way that
    Islamic morality has taught people about peace, tolerance and justice
    down the centuries. Nowadays, everybody is seeking just such a model,
    and there is no reason why such a culture should not once more come
    about. All that is necessary is for people to want to live by the
    morality of the Qur’an, beginning with themselves and later making
    efforts to spread it to other people. When the morality commanded in
    the Qur’an begins to be implemented everybody, from the very highest
    ranks to the very lowest, will be just, compassionate, tolerant, full
    of love, respectful and forgiving, and that will bring peace to the
    whole of society.

  6. AliSina_FFI says:

    @Muslim 
    As for John
    15:26 that talks about the Comforter and your claim that it is a prophecy about
    Muhammad. My answer is whahaha.
    Comforter,
    means someone who consoles and comforts people in their tragedy and for the
    loss of a dear one.Does Muhammad fit
    the description?Muhammad was a mass
    murderer, not a comforter. Mass murderer is diametrically opposed to comforter.
    The only role Muhammad fits is that of The Antichrist.

  7. AliSina_FFI says:

    @ Muslim22
    So now the Christians are your brothers and sisters?LOLHow about those being persecuted and killed in Egypt, Pakistan and all other
    Islamic countries?Are the 200 plus
    Christian girls reduced to slaves by your brothers of Boko Haram also your
    sisters?How about this Christian
    arrested his own home for the crime of reading the Bible with his fellow
    Christians? http://www.faithfreedom.org/egypt-christian-arrested-for-using-home-as-church/
    How much hypocrisy is enough Mr.Muslim
    and who do you want to fool?
    As for the example of mirror and sun it is just an example.
    Of course Jesus was not a reflection of God. Jesus is God. I explained that in
    the rest of my articles. I said God can be in two different places without splitting
    himself. It was the poor Muhammad and his brain deaf followers that can’t understand
    this. It is these benighted people who insist Jesus was only a messenger and nothing
    more.You are dam wrong. Now we know
    enough about the quantum physics to have an idea of a world not subject to
    space and time and thanks to this know understanding, we can see that the claim
    that Jesus was God dose in no way deny the oneness of God.
    As I said at the beginning of my article, Muslims will never
    understand this simple fact and will do everything possible including hide
    their heads in their rear orifice so they don’t understand it. The moment they understand
    it they will have to accept that Muhammad was a dumbass and that is not
    easy.
    My article was very clear and simple. Everyone understood it
    the Hindus, Christian and even the rationalist who may not even believe in God,
    at least can agree that my logic is not flawed nor it is unscientific.Of course they will not agree with me because
    they can’t believe in God. But they will not deny my logic.

  8. Muslim22 says:

    Let’s start with what you said :” if Muslims understand it …which proves he was not a prophet …” That shows your ignorant and shows you are not smarter enough to comprehend Islam,it is beyond your little hateful brain towards this prophet peace be upon him .
    “People of the Book, … Do not say that there are three gods. It is better for you to stop believing in the Trinity. There is only One God.” (Q. 4: 171)
    According to your  article this verse is extremely true, If god is ( the sun ) in the mirror through  rays, does that make it three ? Of course not , can the mirror say “I and the sun are one “? If the mirror talks, of course not,Can the mirror warm itself without the help of the sun ? Of course not ..hence the mirror is helpless can do nothing. But our brother Christians they think Jesus is the eternity itself ,Jesus did the miracles by himself ,I don’t blame them that’s what they learnt since they were kids,unlike you pretending the knowledge and your understanding to the Koranic verses and you missed this one. The verse is 100% true according to your analysis while you are wrong in explaining it . Like a foolish man holding an apple in his hand and saying this is an orange.Even he believed with his mind that’s an orange instead of an apple that doesn’t make it so .
    The second verse it explain itself according to your  dumb analogy ( Sun,mirror and rays ). Jesus peace be upon him was  just like a mirror like any other mirror came before him ( Moses, Abraham, Noah …) he is not exceptional, not special,nor the son of God.
    Now for further study to our Christians brothers,Ali sinner you sit back and listen you may learn something today.
    John 14:16
    16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
    John 14:26
    26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
    John 16:7
    7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
     I give you the answers of our brothers concerning this matter :
    1- “Another Comforter” means Jesus in the Spirit as opposed to Jesus in the flesh
    2- Jesus went to heaven in His glorified body so He could form a new relationship with His disciples, by sending back His own Spirit as the Comforter.
    3- THE HOLY SPIRIT IS JEHOVAH’S ACTIVE FORCE:
    4- Zechariah 4:6: “Not by a military force, nor by power, but by my spirit,” Jehovah of armies has         said.”
    All these answers and others seems a little bit logic in them unlike our charlatan Ali sinner who said :
    The truth is that everyone is a trinity.  Is it not true that each person consists of a mind, a body and a soul?   So are you one or three?  The question is absurd. Your soul, your mind and your body are different dimensions of you.  The three is one and you are a trinity.  Does your trinity challenge your oneness?
    And this answer turns everything down and hit the Christianity in the heart . So Christian brothers and sisters, It amazes me how a charlatan can make a fool of you and your dearly religion to your hearts while standing up cheering him out . I know the answer for this one Just because he called Mohamed the prophet of Islam names as he always does . Keep applauding he is making fun of you all .
    Back to the biblical verses mentioned above there is one simple thing has to be mentioned .The Greek word for “another” in John 14:16 is “allos”, another of the same kind, (denoting numerical distinction). The second of two where there may be more.
    The Charlatan done it again but with a great humiliation to his Christians followers, trying to get away by saying that was his understanding of the trinity…lol did it the same way like Paul did drank to much butter milk and started saying all these things while pointing himself as the 13th  apostle …filled up the bible with nonsense .
    I’ll be right back whenever I get sometime because to entertain myself and laugh at these goons the way they think,the way they behave. Keep up the entertainment. And keep up making fool of yourselves .