The Myth of the Three Abrahamic Religions

Jacob Thomas

Consultant on Middle Eastern affair/ Columnist

81 Responses

  1. Face_The_Truth says:

    As my readers are familiar with my previous post(s) that, Islam’s founder Muhammad was born out of rape of his biological mother Amina by an Arab Bedouin since Muhammad’s supposed biological father named Abd’Allah ibn Abd al’Muttalib actually died more than 1 year before Islam’s founder Muhammad was born!

    As result of rape-born birth of Islam’s founder Muhammad, Muhammad spent his significant early years with an Arab Bedouin family of the Arabian Peninsula and that was over 1400 years ago.

    However, my personal theory — based on Islam’s founder Muhammad’s intense desire to emulate Jewish customs in general and Jewish scriptures in particular during Islam’s founder Muhammad’s adult life — is Muhammad’s biological mother Amina could have been raped by an observant Jew instead of by an Arab Bedouin, since sons typically follow or emulate their actual biological fathers’ faiths and customs.

    Of course, my theory cannot be proven today with any concrete historical data and, also, today there are sons who reject their biological fathers’ faiths in front of our eyes everyday!

    For example, a famous Indian actor, producer and model named John Abraham has rejected his Christian father’s Christian faith and Christian falsehoods and have openly become an atheist.

    Now, let’s look at the Christian idol “Jesus Christ”‘s birth history!

    ‘Matthew’s citation from Isaiah can be dismissed straight away as a clumsy attempt at cover up.

    As a Jew conversant with the Hebrew Bible, Matthew must have known that the word “almah” used by Isaiah DID NOT mean “virgin”, but “young woman”, and that the correct Hebrew word for “virgin” was “betulah” which Isaiah had used five times, BUT NOT in this context.

    Matthew chose to cite from the Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Bible, because there the word “almah” had been wrongly translated as “parthenos”, the Greek word for “virgin”.

    New translations of the Bible have corrected the mistake.

    It is only the Christian Catholic Church which continues to stick not only to the dogma of the virgin-birth of Jesus, but also to the myth of Mary’s permanent virginity, and refuses to face the fact that Matthew, who floated the myth, himself mentions Mary as having conjugal relations with Joseph only a few lines later.

    Elsewhere in the Christian Gospels we find Mary being mentioned as the mother of several children besides Jesus.

    The Christian Catholic Church, however, has extended the dogma of Mary’s virginity to her and her female ancestors’ Immaculate Conception ad infinitium.

    This ridiculous exercise provoked Anatole France (i.e., Nobel laureate François-Anatole Thibault who rejected Christian faith and Christian falsehoods) to write a story in which a prostitute in Paris, France, kneels before a statue of Virgin Mary and prays,

    “Holy Mother! You conceived without sinning. Let me sin without conceiving.”

    It is also significant that all the four female ancestors of Mary mentioned by Matthew in his genealogy of Jesus happen to be fallen women!

    “Tamar was a temple prostitute;

    Rahab was the madam of a brothel;

    Ruth, the most moral, indulged in some pretty shameless sexual exploitation; and

    Bathsheba committed adultery with Jewish King David.

    Was the author of the Matthew genealogy implying something about the only other woman mentioned, Mary herself?”

    The real reason for floating the myth of virgin-birth seems to be that “there had always been a question mark hanging over Mary’s sexual morality” and that “it was clearly a subject which caused the early Christians (i.e., primitive Christians) acute embarrassment”.

    In fact, there has been a long-standing tradition among the Jews that Jesus was the fruit of an adulterous union between Mary and a Roman soldier named Tiberius Julius Abdes Panthera.

    The story had also spread to the Pagans in the ancient world.

    Origen of Alexandria found the Roman philosopher Celsus referring to it in Celsus’s anti-Christian polemics around AD 178.

    World’s Christians have tended to dismiss the story as a malicious piece of invention, suggesting that Tiberius Julius Abdes Panthera may have been a corruption of Greek word ‘parthenos’ meaning virgin.

    “Intriguingly, world’s Christians’ interpretation fell a little flat with the discovery at Bingerbrück in Germany of the tombstone of one Tiberius Julius Abdes Panthera, a Roman archer from Sidon in Phoenicia.

    Although it would be fanciful seriously to suggest that Tiberius Julius Abdes Panthera was Jesus’s real father, the tombstone does happen to date from the appropriate early Roman imperial period.”

    This “unfortunate circumstance” of Jesus’s birth may explain Jesus’s hostility to his biological mother and lack of enthusiasm for his step-brothers!

    In John (2.3-4) we find him giving short shrift to his mother at the marriage in Cana.

    In Luke (11.27-28) there is more than a hint that Jesus DID NOT consider his biological mother Mary among those “who hear the word of ‘God the Father’ and keep it”.

    In Matthew (12.46-50), Mark (3.31-35), and Luke (8.19-21) Jesus shows NO warmth for his biological mother Mary and his step-brothers who supposedly come all the way from Nazareth to Capernaum to pay Jesus a visit.’

  2. Face_The_Truth says:

    No matter how many lies and utter falsehoods of Christianity and Islam anyone may point out, world’s Christians and world’s Muslims WILL NOT abandon Christianism and Islam.

    When someone hears voices in his/her head — that nobody else hears — that is considered an incurable psychiatric disorder, according to medical science.

    However, in Christianity and Islam, psychiatric abnormalities are considered “Divine Signs” and “Praiseworthy Phenomena”.

    My problem is not with what anyone believes or does not want to believe!

    My problem with Christians and Muslims begins at the moment when a Christian or a Muslim lies in his/her bold face.

    At that moment, an iron rod or a metal hammer comes quite handy.

  3. Face_The_Truth says:

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    Mormonism = Christianism = Judaism = Islamism

    ‘In the early 19th century, Joseph Smith claimed to have been visited by God the Father and the Son and was told by them that all of the existing Christian churches were FALSE and that Joseph Smith would be tasked to restore the true Gospel of Jesus Christ.

    Joseph Smith wrote a book, “The Book of Mormon”, that claimed that a tribe of Israelites traveled to the Americas by boat several centuries before Jesus was born.

    The Book of Mormon discussed wars between two factions of these settlers, the (good and light-skinned) Nephites and the (bad and dark-skinned) Lamanites.

    Ultimately, the Lamanites massacred the Nephites and became the ancestors of the American natives (American Indians).

    Subsequent research has convincingly shown that the history of the Book of Mormon is fictional.

    The American natives (American Indians) originated in Eastern Asia, and NO archaeological evidence has been found to validate the battles that were discussed in the Book of Mormon.

    Additionally, the Book of Mormon contains a large number of anachronisms regarding animals and industries that DID NOT locally exist at the time.

    Joseph Smith also surreptitiously practiced polygamy and polyamory, marrying teenagers as young as 14 (when he was around 37) as well as the wives of living husbands who Joseph Smith had conveniently sent away on proselytizing missions!

    So, what does this have to do with Christianity?

    Mormonism has grown to be a successful church with over 10 million active members — including many highly powerful American politicians and very high profile American presidential candidates — despite the obvious problems surrounding its origins, the lack of authenticity of its scriptures, the implausibility of a God the Father that would abandon all of the other Christian churches, and the foolishness of choosing a conman and sex addict such as Joseph Smith as the agent or prophet for restoring God the Father’s church to the earth!

    That a false religion could succeed in 19th century America means that a false faith could much more easily have flourished in the First Century and beyond.

    The experience of Mormonism suggests that any argument claiming evidence for Christianity based on the number of adherents is null and void.’

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    William Benjamin Smith, “Ecce Deus: Studies of Primitive Christianity”, London, England, 1912

    Louis Gordon Rylands, “Did Jesus Ever Live?”, Watts & Co., London, England, Second Edition, 1936

    William James Durant, “The Story of Civilization, Part III, Caesar and Christ”, Fourth Printing, New York, USA, 1944

    Morton Smith, “Clement of Alexandria and a Secret Gospel of Mark”,
    English, Greek and Latin Edition, Harvard University Press, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA, 1973

    John Van Seters, “Abraham in History and Tradition”, Yale University Press, New Haven, Connecticut, USA, 1975

    Paul Johnson, “A History of Christianity”, Penguin Books, London, England, 1978

    Michael Thomas Walter Arnheim, “Is Christianity True?”, London, England, 1984

    George Albert Wells, “Did Jesus Exist?”, London, England, Second Edition, 1986

    Koenraad Elst, “Psychology of Prophetism: A Secular Look at the Bible”, New Delhi, India, 1993

    Charles Bradley Templeton, “Farewell to God: My Reasons for Rejecting the Christian Faith”, McClelland & Stewart, Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada, 1996

    Earl J. Doherty, “The Jesus Puzzle: Did Christianity Begin with a Mythical Christ?”, Canadian Humanist Publications, Ottawa, Canada, 1999

    Carl Jacob Christoph Burckhardt, “Judgments on History and Historians”, Liberty Fund, Inc., Indianapolis, Indiana, USA, Second Edition, 1999

    Daniel Edwin Barker, “Losing Faith in Faith: From Preacher to Atheist”, Fourth Printing, Freedom From Religion Foundation, Inc., Madison, Wisconsin, USA, 2003

    Sita Ram Goel, “History of Hindu-Christian Encounters (AD 304 to 1996)”, New Delhi, India, Second Edition, 2010

    Edward Gibbon, “The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire (Volumes I to VI)”, Everyman’s Library, New York, USA, Reprint 2010

    Thomas L. Thompson, “The Historicity of the Patriarchal Narratives: The Quest for the Historical Abraham”, Walter de Gruyter GmbH, Berlin, Germany, Reprint 2016

    Michael Shermer, “Heavens on Earth: The Scientific Search for the Afterlife, Immortality, and Utopia”, Henry Holt and Co., New York, USA, 2018

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  4. Found The Truth says:

    This Christian church is the fastest growing church in North India and has grown larger than the Hindu temples and Muslim mosques in the region and continues to grow despite opposition from government forces.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGYbNGZos7A&t=8s

  5. Found The Truth says:

    The power of Jesus Christ
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHBS_y1kAAg

  6. Face_The_Truth says:

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    “It’s one thing to talk to Jesus. It’s another thing when Jesus talks to you. That’s called mental illness, if I’m not correct, hearing voices.”

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    “When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion.”

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  7. Face_The_Truth says:

    THIS IS HOW CHRISTIANISM STARTED:

    ‘Genesis and Character of Christianity

    Some historians in the West have serious doubts about the very
    existence of a man called “Jesus Christ”.

    And, almost all historians agree that if he existed at all, nothing
    can be known about his person or teaching because all contemporary
    sources — Christian and non-Christian — are either silent or unreliable
    regarding the subject.

    Thus, all we have is the “Jesus of the Gospels”, which are now regarded
    as theological statements rather than a record of true historical events.

    And “Jesus of the Gospels” is a questionable character!

    He makes tall claims about himself, and curses all those who do not
    accept those claims.

    He denounces his own people as sons of the Devil and killers of prophets.

    In due course, Christian theology came to proclaim:

    — that Jesus was the only-begotten son of the only true “God the Father”;

    — that the only-begotten son of “God the Father”, namely Jesus, had been sent
    down in order to wash with his own blood the sins of mankind by
    mounting the Cross;

    — that Jesus had risen from the dead on the third day and appeared to
    his apostles in flesh and bones;

    — that Jesus was the same as his “God the Father” whose divinity he
    shared in full;

    — that those who accepted Jesus as the only savior had all their sins
    washed by Jesus’s blood;

    — that Jesus had entered his apostles as the “Holy Ghost” and
    entrusted them with the mission of saving all mankind from eternal
    hell-fire;

    — that the Christian Church founded by the apostles and joined by the
    converts was Jesus’s body and bride; and

    — that the whole world had been mandated to the Christian Church by
    the “Father” and the “Son” and the “Holy Ghost”.

    What one finds striking about these ridiculous and absolutely
    laughable statements is that none of them can stand the test of human
    reason or experience.

    The Christian Church declares them to be mysteries beyond the reach of
    human understanding!

    The apostles had tried to sell these “mysteries” to the Jews in Jerusalem.

    The only response they met was dismissal with contempt from the Jews.

    Next, the apostles tried these “mysteries” on Jewish communities
    settled in Syria, Asia Minor, and Greece.

    The apostles had some small success, but most of the time met with
    considerable resistance.

    Finally, the apostles took this “merchandise” to the metropolitan mart
    at Rome where their business found some firm footing for the first
    time!

    It was in Rome that the methods of Christian missionary salesmanship
    were matured over a period of time.

    The structure of the Roman Empire provided a model for the structure
    of the Christian Church.

    The Christian missionaries got busy building a state within the state!

    In the next two centuries, the Church became a rich and powerful
    organization with members in many leading families of Rome.

    It found many adherents among politicians who wielded power, among
    military commanders who were superstitious or in need of political
    support, and among merchants who had money, but no brains for
    philosophical questions.

    The mother of Emperor Severus (222-235 AD) became a Christian.

    So did Emperor Philip the Arabian (244-249 AD).

    Helena, the mother of Emperor Constantine, was also a Christian convert.

    Now the Church extended the “Divine Right” to rule as a despot to
    anyone who was prepared to declare Christianity as the sole state
    religion and suppress all Pagan religions.

    Emperor Constantine who wanted to secure a dynastic succession for his
    family — a practice unknown to Roman politics so far — saw his
    opportunity in this new doctrine, and proclaimed in favor of the
    Christian Church.

    The common people in Rome resisted this royal renegade.

    So, Emperor Constantine removed his capital from Rome to Byzantium
    which was renamed “Constantinople”!

    The precedent set by Emperor Constantine in consolidating a dynastic
    despotism with the help of the Church was copied by many crowned heads
    all over Europe in subsequent centuries.

    The king in Pagan societies was only the first among equals.

    The Church enabled him to become an unbridled autocrat who derived his
    authority not from the community over which he ruled, but from “God
    the Father”.

    The conflicts which developed between these autocrats and the powerful
    Christian Church with a Pope at its head, came much later, after the
    common people all over Europe had been enslaved and deprived of their
    traditional institutions which safeguarded their fundamental freedoms.

    For quite some time, the Christian Church cooperated with the kings to
    convert the common people everywhere into hewers of wood and drawers
    of water!

    This was just one part of the Christian history.

    Another part was a large-scale destruction of ancient religions all
    over Europe, Asia Minor, and North Africa where the Church spread its
    tentacles with the help of despotic rulers.

    All Pagan schools were closed, all Pagan temples were demolished or
    converted into Christian churches, and all Pagan images were publicly
    defiled and destroyed.

    Pagan books were burnt and Pagan priests were killed, mostly by
    Christian monks who led Christian mobs after lecturing them into
    fevered frenzy!

    That is how Christianity triumphed over Pagan religions and societies
    — not by the power of its moral or spiritual superiority or the logic
    of its doctrines, but by the power of the sword wielded by despicable
    Christian despots.’

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    THIS IS HOW ISLAM STARTED

    ‘Genesis and Character of Islam:

    Muhammad followed in the footsteps of Jesus in making the same sort of
    claims for himself, cursing his own people in the choicest language of
    so-called “Mono-Theism”, and threatening them with slaughter.

    Muhammad, however, did not have to struggle against a centralized
    state when he found that his “Prophethood” had no attraction for the
    Pagan people of Mecca.

    Muhammad migrated to Yathrib — was later renamed “Medina” from Madinat
    al’Nabi — which was more receptive to “Mono-Theism” because of a large
    presence of Jews in that town (i.e., Yathrib), and Muhammad emerged as
    a powerful potentate.

    Muhammad, however, ended by exiling or brutally killing en masse the
    Jewish “Mono-Theist” populations of Yathrib, which resisted him as soon
    as Muhammad came out in his true colors!

    Meanwhile, Muhammad had amassed much wealth by plundering merchant
    caravans and scattered Pagan Arab settlements.

    Muhammad created the nucleus of a standing army out of the toughs and
    desperados who flocked to him in increasing numbers for committing
    crimes against non-believers and sharing the loot.

    In short, Muhammad built the apparatus of a military state in “Medina”
    and used it for imposing his closed creed on the tribal settlements of
    Pagan Arabia by means of armed-force.

    The doctrines of Islam were tailored to the needs of this galloping
    tyranny, and sold with the help of the sword.

    And the sword was stamped with the name of a fictitious one and only
    almighty “Allah” (i.e., Jehovah) in whose service the ancient religion
    and culture of Arabia were destroyed root and branch.’

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  8. Manny says:

    To face the truth,,,,,youre hypocrites and toomuch blah blah,,,,you are same as R.dawkins,,,,as I remembre mr. Ali Sina said,,,R,dawkins same as you are hypocrites,,,,bcause you are not c on sidering the physical evidence,,,,,,as mr Sina said….. and if you are a puré anti christ ,,,please challenge the proper catholic apologista to debate ,,,,whatever topic you want ,,,,,you cowards ,,,,always blahb lah ..thanks

  9. Face_The_Truth says:

    LIES AND MORE LIES HAVE A NAME ON EARTH.

    AND, THAT IS CHRISTIANITY.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Wilson_(author)

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    PROBLEMS WITH CLAIMS FOR JESUS’S HISTORICITY

    Even Wilson admits that “it has to be acknowledged that hard facts concerning Jesus and his life are remarkably hard to come by.”

    Christian apologist Ian Wilson concedes, for instance, that:

    — the Apostle Paul, by his own admission, never knew the person Jesus but, instead, based his entire faith on a vision Apostle Paul claimed came to him about Jesus’ resurrection;

    — the Gospels DO NOT provide any physical description of Jesus;

    — the year of Jesus’s birth is unknown and, based on available evidence, indeterminable;

    — there is NO historical validation of King Herod’s supposed slaughter of Jewish children at the time of Jesus’s alleged birth;

    — Jesus’ ancestry is illogically tied back to King David through
    Jesus’ father Joseph;

    — the author of Matthew was clearly NOT Jewish, as evidenced by his mistranslation of Isaiah’s prophecy of the Messiah’s virgin birth;

    — the overall credibility of the Matthew and Luke nativity stories are seriously in doubt;

    — there is NO reliable evidence for the alleged crucifixion of Jesus;

    — the writings of Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus concerning the alleged historicity of Jesus are neither clear nor specific;

    — the observations of the Roman governor of Bithynia, Pliny the Younger, DO NOT provide reliable evidence of Jesus’s actual existence; and even

    — the writings of the Jewish historian Josephus on the allegedly historic Jesus have undeniably been adulterated by others with a pro-Christian spin.

    On the question of whether Jesus of the Gospel really existed, the record offers an array of formidable realities!

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    William Benjamin Smith, “Ecce Deus: Studies of Primitive Christianity”, London, England, 1912

    l. Gordon Rylands, “Did Jesus Ever Live?”, Watts & Co., London, England, 1929

    William James Durant, “The Story of Civilization, Part III, Caesar and Christ”, Fourth Printing, New York, USA, 1944

    Morton Smith, “Clement of Alexandria and a Secret Gospel of Mark”,
    English, Greek and Latin Edition, Harvard University Press, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA, 1973

    John Van Seters, “Abraham in History and Tradition”, Yale University Press, New Haven, Connecticut, USA, 1975

    Paul Johnson, “A History of Christianity”, Penguin Books, London, England, 1978

    Michael Thomas Walter Arnheim, “Is Christianity True?”, London, England, 1984

    George Albert Wells, “Did Jesus Exist?”, London, England, Second Edition, 1986

    Koenraad Elst, “Psychology of Prophetism: A Secular Look at the Bible”, New Delhi, India, 1993

    Charles Bradley Templeton, “Farewell to God: My Reasons for Rejecting the Christian Faith”, McClelland & Stewart, Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada, 1996

    Earl J. Doherty, “The Jesus Puzzle: Did Christianity Begin with a Mythical Christ?”, Canadian Humanist Publications, Ottawa, Canada, 1999

    Daniel Edwin Barker, “Losing Faith in Faith: From Preacher to Atheist”, Fourth Printing, Freedom From Religion Foundation, Inc., Madison, Wisconsin, USA, 2003

    Sita Ram Goel, “History of Hindu-Christian Encounters (AD 304 to 1996)”, New Delhi, India, Second Edition, 2010

    Edward Gibbon, “The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire (Volumes I to VI)”, Everyman’s Library, New York, USA, Reprint 2010

    Thomas L. Thompson, “The Historicity of the Patriarchal Narratives: The Quest for the Historical Abraham”, Walter de Gruyter GmbH, Berlin, Germany, Reprint 2016

    Michael Shermer, “Heavens on Earth: The Scientific Search for the Afterlife, Immortality, and Utopia”, Henry Holt and Co., New York, USA, 2018

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  10. Face_The_Truth says:

    NO HISTORICAL EVIDENCE FOR JESUS’S RESURRECTION

    Except for the claims made by anonymous Christian Gospel writers, NO evidence exists that Jesus ever rose from the dead.

    In fact, Gospel accounts of the alleged resurrection are, from a realistic point of view, completely implausible!

    If, as Templeton observes, Jesus’s resurrection was accompanied by a extraordinary earthquake, the wholesale rending of the Temple veil and a large-group resurrection of the dead witnessed by many, why do these phenomenal events merit, but a single sentence in Matthew — and virtually NO mention in the other Christian Gospels or in contemporary historical accounts?

    Writes an understandably skeptical Templeton:

    “Let the reader imagine the scene:

    The astonished spectators, the gathering crowd, the family members and friends, weeping and delirious with excitement.

    Surely someone would have plied them with questions:

    ‘What happened as you died?’

    ‘Did you see God?’

    ‘What is Heaven like?’

    ‘Were you reunited with our parents and other members of your family?’

    Surely the answers to these and other questions like them would have flashed across Palestine within hours and been recorded somewhere!

    But there is NOT one word of it in history.

    The entire resurrection story is NOT credible.”

    Add to this the fact that the 4 Gospel accounts of the resurrection not only differ from one another on many major points, but are irreconcilably at odds with Paul’s account in 1 Corinthians on who Jesus supposedly appeared to after rising from the dead. (Templeton, pp. 120-122)

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    Notes:

    Charles Bradley Templeton, “Farewell to God: My Reasons for Rejecting the Christian Faith”, McClelland & Stewart, Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada, 1996

    Michael Thomas Walter Arnheim, “Is Christianity True?”, London, England, 1984

    Edward Gibbon, “The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire (Volumes I to VI)”, Everyman’s Library, New York, USA, Reprint 2010

    Michael Shermer, “Heavens on Earth: The Scientific Search for the Afterlife, Immortality, and Utopia”, Henry Holt and Co., New York, USA, 2018

  11. Face_The_Truth says:

    Dear readers:

    I often cite a number of published books and the names of authors at the end of my numerous posts on this FaithFreedom.Org website so that my readers can verify and read the actual history of Christianity or Christianism that has plagued our earth for the last 2000 years with LIES after LIES after LIES.

    Instead of buying any of the books that I mention, please use your local public libraries for those books for free reading!

    If you do not have access to public libraries, please inquire at your local university libraries, since every major city on earth has at least one major public or private university.

    Similar to world’s Muslims, world’s Christians truly believe that “LYING for the LORD” is beneficial to all humans including all non-believers of Christianism and Islam.

    English historian Edward Gibbon in his six-volume-book “The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” wrote:

    ‘Eusebius Pamphili (Christian Bishop of Caesarea Maritima 314 A.D.) discussed:

    “That it will be necessary sometimes to use FALSEHOOD as a remedy for the benefit of those who require such a mode of treatment.”‘

    19th century Swiss cultural historian Carl Jacob Christoph Burckhardt dismissed Christian Bishop Eusebius as “the first thoroughly dishonest historian of antiquity”.

    Jacob Burckhardt, “Judgments on History and Historians”, Liberty Fund, Second Edition, 1999

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    http://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/burckhardt-judgments-on-history-and-historians

  12. Face_The_Truth says:

    ALLEGED HISTORICAL EVIDENCE FOR THE MAN “JESUS” IN THE WRITINGS OF ORTHODOX JEW FLAVIOUS JOSEPHUS

    In his work (circa 90 A.D.), “The Antiquities of the Jews”, Flavious Josephus, a messianic Jew and respected Roman historian, SUPPOSEDLY wrote:

    “Now, there was about this time, Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works — a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Hews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that love him at the first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive against the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him, and the tribe of Christians, so named from him are not extinct at this day.”

    Barker dispenses with the claim that this is the authentic Josephus with the following observations:

    1. This paragraph about Jesus DID NOT appear until the advent of the fourth century A.D.

    The disputed writing surfaced during the time that Bishop Eusebius, a close ally of the Roman Emperor Constantine, was helping to fashion what would eventually become the orthodox version of Christianity.

    Barker notes that it was Bishop Eusebius who had argued it was justifiable for Christians to, in effect, “lie for the Lord” and that it was he who was the first person known to have cited this alleged Josephus account.

    As Barker notes, many Bible experts have concluded, in fact, that Bishop Eusebius forged the paragraph in question and then attributed it to Flavious Josephus.

    2. The paragraph in doubt appears completely OUT OF CONTEXT.

    It is dropped into Flavious Josephus’s writings after the historian gives an account of Roman taxation, various Jewish religious sects, Herod’s municipal building projects, the comings and goings of priests and procurators, the planning of seditious plots against Pilate, and Pilate’s construction of Jerusalem’s water supply using religious monies, which led to a Jewish protest, followed by Pilate’s bloody suppression of it.

    The questionable paragraph then follows, after which Flavious Josephus goes on to speak of “another terrible misfortune [that] confounded the Jews . . .”

    As Barker notes, only a Christian would have regarded this as a MISFORTUNE for Jews.

    Flavious Josephus himself was an orthodox Jew and WOULD NOT have so described it.

    3. Not being a believer in Christianity, Flavious Josephus would also NOT have used the language of a Christian-convert in referring to Jesus as “the Christ.”

    4. Flavious Josephus would also not have used the term “tribe of Christians,” since Christianity did not achieve organizational status until the second century.

    5. Flavious Josephus’s alleged paragraph on Jesus portrays Flavious Josephus as having no other familiarity with the alleged “Christian Messiah”.

    Barker observes that the Roman historian thus simply repeats what Christians would have already known, while adding virtually nothing to the Gospel accounts. In fact, Josephus’ supposed brief mention of Jesus is the only reference in all of his expansive writings to Christianity.

    6. The paragraph does NOT reflect the careful wording of a responsible historian.

    Rather, says Barker, it is written in the fervent language of a believing Christian and, further, is given with NO citation of predictions from Hebrew prophets who supposedly foretold Jesus’s advent. (Barker, pp. 362-363)

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    Notes:

    Daniel Edwin Barker, “Losing Faith in Faith: From Preacher to Atheist”, Fourth Printing, Freedom From Religion Foundation, Inc., Madison, Wisconsin, USA, 2003

    Sita Ram Goel, “History of Hindu-Christian Encounters (AD 304 to 1996)”, New Delhi, India, Second Edition, 2010

    Michael Shermer, “Heavens on Earth: The Scientific Search for the Afterlife, Immortality, and Utopia”, Henry Holt and Co., New York, USA, 2018

  13. Face_The_Truth says:

    I am typing in all CAPITAL in order to differentiate mine versus yours.

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    You can say that in this case it is a mono-theistic religion.

    THERE IS NO SUCH DIFFERENTIATION FOR A DEVOTEE OR A PRACTITIONER IN SANATANA DHARMA.

    SANATANA DHARMA DOES NOT USE LABELS LIKE “MONO-THEISTIC RELIGION” OR “POLY-THEISTIC RELIGION”.

    EVEN THE ENGLISH WORD “RELIGION” DOES NOT ACCURATELY TRANSLATE THE TRUE AND ACTUAL MEANING OF “DHARMA”.

    IN SANSKRIT “DHARMA” MEANS WHAT HOLDS YOU FROM YOUR INSIDE.

    IN ENGLISH THE WORD “RELIGION” MEANS WHAT YOU WEAR ON YOUR BODY OUTSIDE LIKE A FANCY GARMENT AS WELL AS YOUR OUTSIDE LIFESTYLE OR YOUR PERSONA.

    Am I correct to say that Sanatana Dharma for each individual is a mono-theistic religion, but as a whole a poly-theistic religion?

    WHEN YOU ARE IN HIGH SCHOOL, YOU LEARN TO TAKE COURSES IN PHYSICS AND CHEMISTRY SEPARATELY — AS 2 DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT DISCIPLINES OF SCIENCE IN GENERAL.

    BUT, WHEN YOU ARE IN YOUR PH.D. WORK AND WRITING YOUR DISSERTATION(S), YOUR AREA OF WORK IS ENMESHED IN BOTH PHYSICS AND CHEMISTRY WHERE YOU CANNOT DIFFERENTIATE WHETHER YOUR WORK IN THE PH.D. PROGRAM IS ACTUALLY AND DISTINCTIVELY PHYSICS OR CHEMISTRY.

    SANATANA DHARMA DOES NOT HAVE MULTIPLE LABELS BASED ON WHO YOU WORSHIP OR HOW MANY YOU WORSHIP OR WHOM YOU DO NOT WORSHIP AT ALL.

    SANATANA DHARMA HAS LABELS BASED ON YOUR ACTUAL LIVING, BASED ON YOUR ACTUAL MINDSET(S) AND BASED ON YOUR DAILY PRACTICE(S).

    SANATANA DHARMA SAYS, “PLANTS AND TREES LIVE, BIRDS AND BEASTS LIVE; BUT, THE ONE REALLY LIVES IS THE ONE WHO LIVES BY REFLECTION.”

    SANATANA DHARMA DISTINGUISHES YOU WHETHER YOU ARE A KARMA-YOGI OR JNANA-YOGI OR BHAKTI-YOGI OR A SAMKHYA-YOGI OR A PURUSOTTAMA-YOGI AND IN MANY OTHER WAYS.

    SANATANA DHARMA ALSO MAY DISTINGUISH YOU BASED ON YOUR ANCESTRAL UPBRINGING AND LIFESTYLES SUCH AS VAISHNAVAS, SHAKTAS AND MANY OTHERS.

    Am I correct to say that Sanatana Dharma in this case is atheistic?

    AGAIN, SANATANA DHARMA DOES NOT USE THE TERM “ATHEIST” OR “ATHEISTIC” AS IT IS CONVEYED IN ENGLISH LANGUAGE.

    FOR INSTANCE, A SAMKHYA-YOGI BELIEVES IN GUNAS — WHICH MEAN QUALITIES AND INNATE TENDENCIES OF HUMANS.

    AND, FOR A SAMKHYA-YOGI, THE CONCEPT OF OR THE EXISTENCE OF GODS/GODDESSES IS IRRELEVANT.

    One more question, how does Sanatana Dharma relate to Hinduism?

    IN REALITY, THERE IS NO SUCH THING ON EARTH TO BE CALLED “HINDUISM”.

    THE WORD “HINDU” WAS USED BY FOREIGNERS TO INDICATE THE PEOPLE OF INDIAN SUBCONTINENT EVEN LONG BEFORE SO-KNOWN ABRAHAM OR MOSES OR MUHAMMAD OR JESUS WAS BORN.

    FOREIGNERS LABELED ALL INHABITANTS OF INDIAN SUBCONTINENT AS “HINDUS” AND TODAY “HINDUISM” IS USED AS A LABEL TO DESCRIBE THE FAITH(S) OF PEOPLE OF BHARATIYA ORIGIN WHO DO NOT SUBSCRIBE TO BUDDHISM, ISLAMISM, CHRISTIANISM, JUDAISM, ETC.

    AS I HAVE WRITTEN ABOVE (AND BELOW, DEPENDS ON HOW YOU ACTUALLY READ MY POSTS), SANATANA DHARMA DEVELOPED AND EVOLVED OVER MORE THAN 10 MILLENNIA WHERE HUMANS HAD TO LIVE WITH NATURE AND LIVE IN NATURE AND DESCRIBE THEIR CONCEPTS OF NATURAL VERSUS SUPER-NATURAL, THEIR CONCEPTS OF REALITIES VERSUS IMAGINATIONS, AND THEIR CONCEPTS OF LIFE VERSUS DEATH.

    I CAN GO ON AND ON; BUT, YOU PROBABLY DON’T HAVE TIME TO READ MY BORING POST(S) AND I DO NOT HAVE TIME TO TYPE ANYMORE TODAY.

  14. A.H. says:

    “If there are 7 billion humans on earth, there could be (I DID NOT type, must be) 7 billion Gods/Goddesses on earth.”

    Okay, am I correct to say that in Santana Dharma it is theoretically possible that these 7 billion humans worship the same (one) Godhead (e.g., Mother Kālikā). You can say that in this case it is a mono-theistic religion.

    But it is also theortically possible in Santana Dharma that these 7 billion humans worship each one but different Godhead. Am I correct to say that Santana Dharma for each individual is a mono-theistic religion, but as a whole a poly-theistic religion?

    It is even theoretically possible that each of these 7 billion humans do not believe in a Godhead.
    Am I correct to say that Santana Dharma in this case is atheistic?

    One more question, how does Santana Dharma relate to Hinduism?

  15. Face_The_Truth says:

    “That implies that there are other Gods/Goddesses as well. How do you know this Goddess? By (non-worldly) knowledge?”

    That DOESN’T imply anything other than the fact that, it’s the individual human-being who is pursuing his/her spiritual path according to his/her mind and temperament and for him/her that is mono-theism.

    If there are 7 billion humans on earth, there could be (I DID NOT type, must be) 7 billion Gods/Goddesses on earth.

    For a particular human-being on earth, it is his/her mental determination — based on his/her genetic and social make-up — to believe in only one God/Goddess or many Gods/Goddesses or NO God/Goddess.

    And, that is Sanatana Dharma.

  16. A.H. says:

    “If a “Hindu” like myself only worships the Supreme Goddess (i.e., Mother Kālikā), s/he is practicing mono-theism”

    That implies that there are other Gods/Goddesses as well. How do you know this Goddess. By (non-worldly) knowlegde?

  17. Face_The_Truth says:

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    The Christian author — Thomas Jacob — wrote:

    ‘The phrase, “The Three Abrahamic Religions” is of recent origin, and is used mostly among English-speaking people.

    Before it became popular, the more exact term was the “Three Theistic Religions;” which set Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, APART FROM THE ASIATIC FAITHS, WHICH WERE EITHER POLYTHEISTIC, OR PANTHEISTIC.’
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    In close scrutiny one might find the utter absurdity and incongruence in the fictitious theologies of Middle Eastern so-called “Mono-Theisms”, which were invented by dark human-minds for murdering people who DID NOT conform to the falsehoods of Judaism, Christianism and Islamism.

    If a human being only worships Siddhartha Gautama, s/he is a practitioner of mono-theism.

    If a “Hindu” like myself only worships the Supreme Goddess (i.e., Mother Kālikā), s/he is practicing mono-theism.

    HOWEVER, so-called Middle Eastern “Mono-Theism” has a completely DIFFERENT meaning as well as a completely DIFFERENT character, which requires a mortal human to abandon his ancestral faith for the utter and absolute falsehood of believing in the words of a fraudster or a murderer or a rapist or a psychopath in the likes of Abraham or Moses or Muhammad or Jesus!

    So-called Middle Eastern “Mono-Theism” claims that, all other beliefs are false due to the sheer “ignorance” of non-believers of Middle Eastern “Mono-Theism” for NOT accepting one and only Middle Eastern “Mono-Theism”.

    And, we can figure out that, the real reason or motive behind all 3 major branches of Middle Eastern “Mono-Theism” is murdering or subjugating non-believers as well as plundering non-believers’ lands and properties.

    For my readers, I conclude my post with Adi Shankaracharya’s true and eternal mono-theism here.

    भवान्यष्टकम् — न तातो न माता

    Bhavanya-Ashtakam — Na Tato Na Mata
    Composed By Adi Acharya Shankara

    न तातो न माता न बन्धुर्न दाता
    न पुत्रो न पुत्री न भृत्यो न भर्ता ।
    न जाया न विद्या न वृत्तिर्ममैव
    गतिस्त्वं गतिस्त्वं त्वमेका भवानि ॥१॥

    Na Taato Na Maataa Na Bandhur-Na Daataa
    Na Putro Na Putrii Na Bhrtyo Na Bhartaa |
    Na Jaayaa Na Vidyaa Na Vrttir-Mama-Iva
    Gatis-Tvam Gatis-Tvam Tvam-Ekaa Bhavaani ||1||

    Meaning:
    1.1: Neither the Father, nor the Mother; Neither the Relation and Friend, nor the Donor,
    1.2: Neither the Son, nor the Daughter; Neither the Servant, nor the Husband,
    1.3: Neither the Wife, nor the (worldly) Knowledge; Neither my Profession,
    1.4: You are my Refuge, You Alone are my Refuge, Oh Mother Bhavani.

    भवाब्धावपारे महादुःखभीरु
    पपात प्रकामी प्रलोभी प्रमत्तः ।
    कुसंसारपाशप्रबद्धः सदाहं
    गतिस्त्वं गतिस्त्वं त्वमेका भवानि ॥२॥

    Bhavaabdhaav-Apaare Mahaa-Duhkha-Bhiiru
    Papaata Prakaamii Pralobhii Pramattah |
    Ku-Samsaara-Paasha-Prabaddhah Sada-[A]ham
    Gatis-Tvam Gatis-Tvam Tvam-Ekaa Bhavaani ||2||

    Meaning:
    2.1: In this Ocean of Worldly Existence which is Endless, I am full of Sorrow and Very much Afraid,
    2.2: I have Fallen with Excessive Desires and Greed, Drunken and Intoxicated,
    2.3: Always Tied in the Bondage of this miserable Samsara (worldly existence),
    2.4: You are my Refuge, You Alone are my Refuge, Oh Mother Bhavani.

    न जानामि दानं न च ध्यानयोगं
    न जानामि तन्त्रं न च स्तोत्रमन्त्रम् ।
    न जानामि पूजां न च न्यासयोगं
    गतिस्त्वं गतिस्त्वं त्वमेका भवानि ॥३॥

    Na Jaanaami Daanam Na Ca Dhyaana-Yogam
    Na Jaanaami Tantram Na Ca Stotra-Mantram |
    Na Jaanaami Puujaam Na Ca Nyaasa-Yogam
    Gatis-Tvam Gatis-Tvam Tvam-Ekaa Bhavaani ||3||

    Meaning:
    3.1: Neither do I know Charity, nor Meditation and Yoga,
    3.2: Neither do I know the practice of Tantra, nor Hymns and Prayers,
    3.3: Neither do I know Worship, nor dedication to Yoga,
    3.4: You are my Refuge, You Alone are my Refuge, Oh Mother Bhavani.

    न जानामि पुण्यं न जानामि तीर्थ
    न जानामि मुक्तिं लयं वा कदाचित् ।
    न जानामि भक्तिं व्रतं वापि मातर्गतिस्त्वं
    गतिस्त्वं त्वमेका भवानि ॥४॥

    Na Jaanaami Punnyam Na Jaanaami Tiirtha
    Na Jaanaami Muktim Layam Vaa Kadaacit |
    Na Jaanaami Bhaktim Vratam Vaapi Maatar-Gatis-Tvam
    Gatis-Tvam Gatis-Tvam Tvam-Ekaa Bhavaani ||4||

    Meaning:
    4.1: Neither do I Know Virtuous Deeds, nor Pilgrimage,
    4.2: I do not know the way to Liberation, and with little Concentration and Absorption,
    4.3: I know neither Devotion, nor Religious Vows; Nevertheless Oh Mother,
    4.4: You are my Refuge, You Alone are my Refuge, Oh Mother Bhavani.

    कुकर्मी कुसङ्गी कुबुद्धिः कुदासः
    कुलाचारहीनः कदाचारलीनः ।
    कुदृष्टिः कुवाक्यप्रबन्धः सदाहं
    गतिस्त्वं गतिस्त्वं त्वमेका भवानि ॥५॥

    Ku-Karmii Ku-Sanggii Ku-Buddhih Kudaasah
    Kula-[Aa]caara-Hiinah Kadaacaara-Liinah |
    Ku-Drssttih Ku-Vaakya-Prabandhah Sada-[A]ham
    Gatis-Tvam Gatis-Tvam Tvam-Ekaa Bhavaani ||5||

    Meaning:
    5.1: I performed Bad Deeds, associated with Bad Company, cherished Bad Thoughts, have been a Bad Servant,
    5.2: I did not perform my Traditional Duties, deeply engaged in Bad Conducts,
    5.3: My eyes Saw with Bad Intentions, tongue always Spoke Bad Words,
    5.4: You are my Refuge, You Alone are my Refuge, Oh Mother Bhavani.

    प्रजेशं रमेशं महेशं सुरेशं
    दिनेशं निशीथेश्वरं वा कदाचित् ।
    न जानामि चान्यत् सदाहं शरण्ये
    गतिस्त्वं गतिस्त्वं त्वमेका भवानि ॥६॥

    Praje[a-Is]sham Rame[a-Is]sham Mahe[a-Is]sham Sure[a-Is]sham
    Dine[a-Is]sham Nishiithe[a-I]shvaram Vaa Kadaacit |
    Na Jaanaami Caanyat Sada-[A]ham Sharannye
    Gatis-Tvam Gatis-Tvam Tvam-Ekaa Bhavaani ||6||

    Meaning:
    6.1: Little do I know about The Lord of Creation (Brahma), The Lord of Ramaa (Goddess Lakshmi) (Vishnu), The Great Lord (Shiva), The Lord of the Devas (Indra),
    6.2: The Lord of the Day (Surya) or The Lord of the Night (Chandra),
    6.3: I do not know about other Gods, but always seeking Your Refuge,
    6.4: You are my Refuge, You Alone are my Refuge, Oh Mother Bhavani.

    विवादे विषादे प्रमादे प्रवासे
    जले चानले पर्वते शत्रुमध्ये ।
    अरण्ये शरण्ये सदा मां प्रपाहि
    गतिस्त्वं गतिस्त्वं त्वमेका भवानि ॥७॥

    Vivaade Vissaade Pramaade Pravaase
    Jale Ca-[A]nale Parvate Shatru-Madhye |
    Arannye Sharannye Sadaa Maam Prapaahi
    Gatis-Tvam Gatis-Tvam Tvam-Ekaa Bhavaani ||7||

    Meaning:
    7.1: During Dispute and Quarrel, during Despair and Dejection, during Intoxication and Insanity, in Foreign Land,
    7.2: In Water, and Fire, in Mountains and Hills, amidst Enemies,
    7.3: In Forest, please Protect me,
    7.4: You are my Refuge, You Alone are my Refuge, Oh Mother Bhavani.

    अनाथो दरिद्रो जरारोगयुक्तो
    महाक्षीणदीनः सदा जाड्यवक्त्रः ।
    विपत्तौ प्रविष्टः प्रनष्टः सदाहं
    गतिस्त्वं गतिस्त्वं त्वमेका भवानि ॥८॥

    Anaatho Daridro Jaraa-Roga-Yukto
    Mahaa-Kssiinna-Diinah Sadaa Jaaddya-Vaktrah |
    Vipattau Pravissttah Pranassttah Sadaaham
    Gatis-Tvam Gatis-Tvam Tvam-Ekaa Bhavaani ||8||

    Meaning:
    8.1: I am Helpless, Poor, Afflicted by Old Age and Disease,
    8.2: Very Weak and Miserable, always with a Pale Countenance,
    8.3: Fallen Asunder, Always surrounded by and Lost in Troubles and Miseries,
    8.4: You are my Refuge, You Alone are my Refuge, Oh Mother Bhavani.

  18. Face_The_Truth says:

    Dear readers:

    The author Thomas Jacob actually has NOT told us anything substantial about so-called Christian, Jewish and Islamic patriarch named Abraham or Ibrahim (e.g., “Ephraim” is a Hebrew word for “being fruitful”!).

    I let all of you decide for yourselves by reading from original Jewish theological statements (i.e., Abraham is NOT a historical figure!).

    ‘1
    Abraham hears Yahweh’s voice, giving Abraham orders, and Abraham claims Yahweh visits him.

    2
    Abraham thinks he is the progenitor of a numerous progeny, though at first Abraham cannot have children with Sarah.

    3
    Abraham offers his wife Sarah for the pleasure of the Pharaoh and of chieftain Abimelek.

    4
    Abraham considers himself Yahweh’s chosen one, elevated above all other tribes.

    5
    Abraham institutes male circumcision (i.e., slicing off the front of penises of men), and gives it the symbolical meaning of the “Covenant with Yahweh”.

    6
    Abraham sends his eldest son Ismael, together with the latter’s mother, the slave girl Hagar, into the desert.

    7
    Abraham wants to kill his and Sarah’s only son Isaac.

    This is not a normal behaviour pattern.

    Yet, it is not entirely inconsistent.

    In fact, the psychopathologist recognizes a typical pattern: The syndrome called paranoia.

    In this mental disease, the patient suffers from persistent thoughts that are in conflict with reality.

    Typical delusions are: Being persecuted by an enemy, being endowed with a special mission or special powers, belonging to a family of otherworldly descent.

    These delusions can be accompanied by hallucinations, usually the well-known phenomenon of “hearing voices”!

    Often these voices command a ;erson to commit very specific symbolical acts, sometimes specific crimes.

    The refusal of one’s own sexuality, as well as sexual impotence, often accompany this condition.

    The limited mutilation called (male) circumcision, is not something invented by (or prescribed by “God the Father” to) Abraham.

    The Egyptians and other peoples knew the practice!

    The rationale was that everyone has both a male and a female soul.

    In the male, the left-over female resides in the prepuce, the skin covering the top of the penis; in the female, the leftover male resides in the clitoris.

    Incidentally, this primitive insight corresponds with certain findings of modern embryology: The same tissue that becomes the glans (top of the penis) in a male embryo, becomes the clitoris in the female embryo; and the same tissue that becomes the labia, the visible part of the girl’s genitals, becomes the boy’s prepuce.

    So, in order to achieve full sexual differentiation, the part which corresponds to the outermost part of the opposite sex’s genitals is removed.

    In order to make real men, the left-over “labia” is cut off, and in order to make real women, the left-over “glans” is removed.

    Since womanhood is more taken for granted, whereas a “real man” is something one has to become, the practice of female circumcision is fortunately not that widespread.

    Today, it is confined to North and East Africa, where its defendants often invoke Islamic sanction for the practice!

    In fact, Mohammed never prescribed it, but according to a tradition, when seeing a girl’s circumcision, Mohammed told the people to “diminish but not destroy”, which is generally understood as an acceptance of the minor circumcision (removal of the clitoris), but a rejection of the major circumcision (removal of the labia, followed by sewing up the vaginal opening until the day of defloration).

    The practice is extremely painful and destructive, and the World Health Organization and many social activists are trying to eradicate it.

    Male circumcision, on the other hand, is fairly harmless and is found among many peoples in different continents.

    The Bible only mentions circumcision as applicable to males!

    The fact that circumcision is so widespread, invalidates the Bible’s claim that it was the token of the exclusive covenant between Yahweh and His chosen people.

    If Abraham perforce wanted to circumcise his son, there must have been a different reason: Perhaps the paranoia syndrome.

    Attempts at mutilation of one’s own or a child’s genitals are not uncommon among paranoid patients.

    They are a violent expression of their refusal of their own sexuality.

    It is quite possible that the priestly Bible editors during the Babylonian exile (6th century BC) retroactively made circumcision into the sign of the Covenant.

    In Palestine and Egypt, it could not have been a distinctive custom, because it was widespread, but in Babylon the Hebrews distinguished themselves from the Babylonians by this custom, so it got emphasized and sanctified as a factor of the Hebrews’ identity.

    To give the practice full sanction, it was attributed to “God the Father”’s own will as expressed in the Covenant with Abraham.

    On the other hand, while circumcision may not originally have been introduced as a sign of the Covenant, it may well have been started, as far as Abraham’s own clan was concerned, by Abraham himself.

    At least, if we accept that Abraham was an immigrant to Kanaan from “Ur of the Chaldees” in Mesopotamia, it is logical that he was the first in his clan to have his son circumcised, as a matter of cultural adaptation to his new environment.

    All in all, it is safer to subtract the introduction of circumcision from the list of peculiar behaviour traits in the historical Abraham.

    The aforementioned six facts that remain are still peculiar enough.

    It is possible that Abraham at first had a healthy sex-life, and that Abraham got NO children due to purely physical causes (impotentia generandi rather than impotentia coeundi).

    The frustration and inferiority feeling that would naturally follow from being a married man without children, might then have been a typical starting-point for the progressive development of a paranoid delusion.

    The inferiority feeling gets transformed into delusions of greatness and divine favour.

    The typical construction you find among many paranoid patients is: My present misfortune (including the fact that people consider me mad and put me in a mental hospital) is merely a stage of testing, after which my true mission will become clear to all and I will be glorified.

    Abraham lent Sarah to other men (Genesis 12:10-20, 20:118).

    Doing this with your own wife (rather than with your sister or your daughter) was very unusual, because the laws against adultery were very strict.

    In fact, both the pharoah and Abimelek were very unhappy and indignant when they found out this woman they had hired was already someone’s wife.

    Is this practice of making a childless wife available to the inseminative potential of other men not an indication that her ultimate pregnancy was brought about by one of those other men?

    In Genesis 18:1-15 it is related that a visitor, called Yahweh (but otherwise a perfectly human fellow who washes his feet and eats flour cakes), wants to see Sarah, and afterwards tells Abraham that next year he will have a son!

    Although the story may have been censored a bit in the final editing of Bible, there can be no doubt about what had happened in between.

    It would explain the oral tradition mentioned in the Talmud, that Isaac didn’t resemble Abraham at all.

    Similarly, the son that Hagar is said to have given Abraham, may well have been another man’s offspring: Nobody keeps check on what exactly a simple maid is doing at night.

    At any rate, Abraham does not behave like a man who, after years of fruitless trying, has been blessed with two sons.

    Abraham sends the eldest son, Ismael, together with his mother Hagar, away into the desert.

    The youngest, Isaac, will be sacrificed at Yahweh’s command.

    Did Abraham suffer at the thought that these children, who had restored his manhood in the eyes of his tribesmen, were in fact NOT his children at all?

    Did Abraham suffer from a conflict between his delusion of a God-given promise of numerous progeny, of which the sons were the fulfillment, and the sneaking realization that they were not his own sons?

    At any rate, in a completely pathological development, Abraham hears a voice telling him to sacrifice his son Isaac.

    This is one of the great religious founding moments of the Judeo-Christian tradition: Abraham obeying Yahweh all the way, even past the limits of absurdity.’

    Notes:

    Koenraad Elst, “Psychology of Prophetism: A Secular Look at the Bible”, New Delhi, India, 1993

    Michael Shermer, “Heavens on Earth: The Scientific Search for the Afterlife, Immortality, and Utopia”, Henry Holt and Co., New York, USA, 2018

  19. `Indoo says:

    “I previously told this “Passive_Observer”

    and

    ” Even if the population of christians is 1 among 7-8 billion, I will expose this false demonic religions….”

    1 Peter 5:8King James Version (KJV)

    8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

  20. Face_The_Truth says:

    I previously told this “Passive_Observer” NOT to address me again.

    But, this Christian keeps doing it.

    This “Passive_Observer” DOES NOT read my posts with enough LINKS to self-educate himself instead of wasting my time!

    No matter how many posts I write, this Christian dog WILL NOT stop until death relieves him from his disease of Christianism.

  21. Continuum says:

    Passive Ignorer says:
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    O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones God’s messengers! How often I have wanted to gather your children together as a hen protects her chicks beneath her wings, but you wouldn’t let me. And now, look, your house is abandoned. And you will never see me again until you say, ‘Blessings on the one who comes in the name of the Lord!”(13:34-35)
    Can you see the predictions? Jerusalem is still the hot spot in the world. “Look your House (of worship) is abandoned” Even after 2000 years Jews have no temple. Now the Israeli P.M thinks of building a temmpl.
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    DESTRUCTION OF TEMPLE is no prophecy at all as it had happened already at the least once. Destruction of religious places by non-believing infidels is common place in middle east and europe.

    As for no temple, invaded and subjugated people always find it hard to establish their temples. Can a Buddhist rebuild all temples in Afghanistan now? NO…Hindus find it very hard to build a temple at Ayodhya even today. This is common all over the world for invaded people. So what is so special about Jews? I do not see anything special here.

    AGAIN PREDICTION MUST INVOLVE CLEAR AND PRECISE SPECIFICATION OF EVENTS, PEOPLE, TIME FRAME, GEOGRAPHY, NAMES OF PLACES, PEOPLE INVOLVED ETC. There is no such prediction anywhere in bible.

    Passive Ignorer says:
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    “And you will never see me again until you say, ‘Blessings on the one who comes in the name of the Lord!” It predicts His second coming.
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    As already shown to you, jeebus second coming as per jeebus’ own predictions are to happen before his own disciples die. CLEARLY JEEBUS IS A FALSE PROPHET.

    Matthew 16:

    27 For the **Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.**

    28 “Truly I tell you, **some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom**.”

    Verse 27 CLEARLY AND UNDOUBTEDLY talks about jeebus coming with father’s glory WITH HIS ANGELS AND THAT jeebus will REWARD **EACH AND EVERY PERSON ACCORDING TO THEIR DEEDS**.

    Verse 27 clearly shows that this verse is talking about **Jeebus coming back with his angels as JUDGE**. THIS IS CLEAR INDICATION THAT THIS PROPHECY IS ABOUT FINAL DAYS.

    Verse 28 follows verse 27 (jeebus coming as judge), and CLEARLY AND UNMISTAKABLY SAYS THAT SOME WHO STAND THERE WILL NOT TASTE DEATH BEFORE THEY SEE jeebus COMING TO JUDGE ALL SOULS IN HIS KINGDOM.

    Passive Ignorer says:
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    Please see Mary’s prediction. “From now on all generations will call me blessed. For the Mighty One has done great things for me” (Luke 1:46-55)
    If you include the Muslims, as Mary is mentioned 100 time in the Koran, approximately 4000 million people call her blessed.
    ==============================

    This is a case of failed prophecy or at the least an unclear one.

    “From now on all generations will call me blessed” ——what does “all generation” mean? Everybody? Clearly only mooslimes and crustians call her so….Hindus, Buddhists, Shintos, Jains, Animists, Pagans and last but not the least Jews do NOT call her so….Thus this is a failed prophecy or at the least failed self-proclamation about herself.

    Passive Ignorer says:
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    Have you ever wondered about the Jews who have now settled in Israel after 2000 years.
    Jews have defiled their land by shedding the precious blood of Jesus and they were scattered all over the world. The prophecy is as follows;
    “If you do not obey the Lord your God, I am giving you today …..You will be uprooted from the land you are entering to posses. Then the Lord will scatter you among the nations, from one end of the earth to the other.( Deuteronomy 28: 15-16, 25, 63-64)”
    =============================

    Jews have been scattered so many times as per their own stories, once to Egupt, once to Babylonia and lastly to europe. so what….

    Deutoronomy especially was written during the period of exile to Babylon. Obviously it talks about Jews being scattered all over the world. THIS IS NOT PROPHECY, BUT AN ATTEMPT BY SCRIBES TO EXPLAIN REALITY IN TERMS OF THEIR BELIEF OF THEIR OWN tribal national gOD yahweh.

    Passive Ignorer says:
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    Finally Jews will be settled in their own land. The prophecy as follows:
    “In that day” says the Lord, “When people are taking an oath, They will no longer say “As surely as the LORD lives, who rescued the people of Israel, from the land of Egypt, but as the LORD lives ,who brought up and led the offspring of the house of Israel, from the North country and out of all the countries where he had driven them,’ Then they shall dwell in their own land” (Jeremiah 23:7)
    =============================

    Jeremiah was written during the period of exile in Babylon. It gives hope for the Jews that they will settle in their own land, just as they resettled in their own land from Egypt. This is NOT prediction of events that is happening now. Jews have been driven away from their own land many times and resettled many times again. History repeats itself. Thus Jeremiah hopes for resettlement here with a religious overtone. The same happened now after 2000 years. I am sure this will repeat in future as well. Weak people will be invaded and resettled quite often. This does NOT impress me as a prophecy.

    Passive Ignorer says:
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    There are more than 300 predictions that have come true. I know you will not be interested in it. You just want to release your anger and you copy/paste.
    ==============================

    oh my dear…..copy paste….indeed….Unlike you, I use my brain quite a lot dear. Please use yours instead of repeating the same crap here from your christian madrassa churches. stop worshiping a bastard born through adultery who has a history of failed prophecies as god.

    Passive Ignorer says:
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    I know you are angry because your neighbours, some Brahmins some Sikhs have accepted Jesus as their saviour. Please be cool; the percentage of Christians in India is after ten years. Before it was 2.31% now 2.23%
    ============================

    hahahahaha…….Definitely, I have utter hatred for falsehood and demonic lies of bible or quran or any garbage coming from the unproductive barbaric peoples of deserts of middle east.

    FALSEHOOD SHOULD BE EXPOSED AND IT IS THE DUTY OF GOOD PEOPLE TO EXPOSE EVIL DEMONIC RELIGIONS. Even if the population of christians is 1 among 7-8 billion, I will expose this false demonic religions of bible and quran with the same passion as I love truth and hate falsehood.

    Passive Ignorer says:
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    I think you are very young. Please file what I have written here. You may look back when you are old and sick in the bed. You may find some wisdom. I stop my comments on this subject. I am busy, I am going on a furlough in two weeks time.
    =============================

    I think you are young in your head (I mean immature to spell it out for you). Please use your brain.

  22. Continuum says:

    Passive Ignorer says:
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    Here the word HEREAFTER is important. It is going to happen in the future. For that you must refer to Daniel prophecy about Jesus given around 600 years before. …….. Daniel 7:13-14
    When he heard the answer of Jesus the Chief priest, who had memorised all prophecies about the coming Messiah, tore his cloths in anger and sentenced Jesus to death, shouting ‘blasphemy’.
    ==================================================

    Daniel 7:13 is a classic ATTEMPT OF MAMZER JEEBUS AND HIS FOLLOWERS TO SELF-FULFILL THE prophecy. Neither Daniel’s prophecy nor jeebus’s prophecy is fulfilled until this day.

    At the least Daniel’s prophecy of a messiah is in some undefined future.

    HOWEVER, JEEBUS’ PROPHECY AS SHOWN CLEARLY BY QUOTING SO MANY VERSES (like Matthew 16:27-28) CLEARLY SHOW FAILURE OF PROPHECY.

    Thus, ADULTERY BORN MAMZER jeebus WITHOUT DOUBT IS A FALSE PROPHET.

    Passive Ignorer says:
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    //Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.//Matthew 23:36, Matthew 24:34
    King James Bible
    Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
    Jesus said “And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come” Mathew 24:14 Out of 6000 languages in the world, the Bible is translated (important parts) only around 2,200 languages. How can Jesus judge the whole humanity without proclaim the Gospel message to all people?
    =======================================

    GIVEN ENOUGH TIME, ANY SO CALLED PROPHECY MAY COME TRUE. AGAIN THE SPREAD OF A RELIGION DOES NOT PROVE PROPHECY. MANY RELIGIONS SPREAD ALL OVER THE WORLD GIVEN ENOUGH TIME, EXAMPLE, BUDDHISM, ISLAM ETC.

    However, time frame of prophecy in gospels show with clarity that these are failed prophecies.

    Matthew 24

    29 “Immediately after the distress of those days

    “‘the sun will be darkened,
    and the moon will not give its light;
    the stars will fall from the sky,
    and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’[b]

    30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.[d] 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

    34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

    AGAIN YOU PROVE BY YOUR OWN QUOTE THAT JEEBUS HAS FAILED HIS PROPHECY, SHOOT YOUR OWN LEG AND THUS PROVE JEEBUS IS A FALSE PROPHET.

    Jeebus clearly says in the above verses again that “this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.”, i.e. end days included here as quoted above.

    THANK YOU FOR PROVING THAT YOUR JEEBUS IS A FALSE PROPHET AGAIN.

    Passive Ignorer says:
    ==================================
    Jesus has predicted many things: the betrayal of Judas, His death, His resurrection, descending of the Holy Spirit, destruction of the Temple, destruction of Jerusalem and the end of the world and His second coming and judgement of whole humanity. There is some confusion for certain people in Mathew Chapter 24. There the destruction of Jerusalem and the end of the world is predicted together. The temple and Jerusalem was destroyed in AD 70, just 40 years after the death of Jesus. So the ‘generation’ Jesus mentioned would have been there to witness all His predictions fulfilled, except the end of the world and His second coming.
    =====================================

    NO…NONE OF YOUR CLAIMS ARE TRUE…

    The temple had been destroyed couple of times before jeebus. So the so called prediction of temple destruction is common sense, especially when invaders are ruling. This is no prediction at all.

    The prediction of death of jeebus is also no prediction at all. If you go on making blasphemous statements among bunch of orthodox people with power to execute you based on blasphemy laws, you will die. Again, this is common sense, that a person trying to portray himself as god will die due to blasphemy laws. Try doing this in Saudi Arabia and claim you have made a prophecy. People will laugh at you.

    Resurrection of jeebus is a christian belief. It is NOT a proven fact. Hence, it cannot be claimed as a fulfilled prophecy.

    Betrayal by Judas. This is a story of gospel and no evidence for this exists. Thus it is not a clear proven prophecy.

    THE END OF THE WORLD AND JUDGMENT IS CLEARLY NOT FULFILLED UNTIL NOW AS YOU ALSO AGREE.

    PASSIVE IGNORER SAYS:
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    How can Jesus judge the whole humanity without proclaim the Gospel message to all people?
    =======================================

    PLEADING HOW CAN jeebus judge without proclamation of gospel message to all people, does NOT MAKE THE FALSE PROPHECY OF JEEBUS TRUE. JEEBUS CLEARLY FAILED HIS OWN PROPHECY.

    AS CLEARLY SHOWN IN MATTHEW 16:27-28, MATTHEW 24:29-35 AND SO MANY OTHER VERSES, END DAYS WERE SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN BEFORE THE GENERATION OF DISCIPLES DIED. HENCE THIS IS A CLEAR CASE OF FAILED PROPHECY. JEEBUS IS A FAILED FALSE PROPHET BORN THROUGH ADULTERY OF MARY.

    Matthew 16:

    27 For the **Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.**

    28 “Truly I tell you, **some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom**.”

  23. Continuum says:

    Passive Ignorer says:
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    Happy to hear from you after a long time. It appears you do copy-paste. You don’t read the Bible searching for truth.
    =================================

    I have posted extensively from all over the gospels showing you how much of LIES is spread by your demonic adultery born jeebus and you call this copy paste. Unlike you, I do not copy paste here. This is my own research exposing the demonic LIES and FALSEHOOD of the bible. and the demonic adultery born magician mamzer jeebus.

    ALL YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE ALREADY ADDRESSED.

    o Preterist perspective:
    This argument assumes all prophecies were already fulfilled, as in Roman destruction of Jewish temple in 70 CE. They fail in respect of prophecy of Jeebus as following. They try to spiritualize the prophecies.

    Passive Ignorer says:
    =================================
    You have quoted Mathew Chapter 16. If you read Mathew Chapter 17 You will see some who were standing there Peter, James and John at 16, have seen the Son of Man coming in his kingdom at 17. Please read Chapter 17:1-3
    ==============================

    IT IS TYPICAL OF CHRISTIAN LIARS TO QUOTE HALF-LIES….

    LET ME QUOTE MATTHEW 16 AGAIN IN CONTEXT WHICH EXPOSES THE LIES OF so called PROPHECY

    Matthew 16:

    27 For the **Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.**

    28 “Truly I tell you, **some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom**.”

    Verse 27 CLEARLY AND UNDOUBTEDLY talks about jeebus coming with father’s glory WITH HIS ANGELS AND THAT jeebus will REWARD **EACH AND EVERY PERSON ACCORDING TO THEIR DEEDS**.

    Verse 27 clearly shows that this verse is talking about **Jeebus coming back with his angels as JUDGE**. THIS IS CLEAR INDICATION THAT THIS PROPHECY IS ABOUT FINAL DAYS.

    Verse 28 follows verse 27 (jeebus coming as judge), and CLEARLY AND UNMISTAKABLY SAYS THAT SOME WHO STAND THERE WILL NOT TASTE DEATH BEFORE THEY SEE jeebus COMING TO JUDGE ALL SOULS IN HIS KINGDOM.

    Do you need any more evidence that adultery born demon mamzer jeebus is a fraudulent delusional man.

    IT IS CLEAR FROM MATTHEW 16:27 THAT PROPHECY OF MATTHEW 16:28 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MATTHEW 17:1-3.

    Look at how this devious christian quotes next chapter, WHILE COMPLETELY AVOIDING THE PREVIOUS VERSE MATTHEW 16:27.

    SO MUCH FOR THE LIES OF CHRISTIAN FRAUD FELLOW HERE.

  24. Passive observer says:

    @Continuum
    Happy to hear from you after a long time. It appears you do copy-paste. You don’t read the Bible searching for truth. You have quoted Mathew Chapter 16. If you read Mathew Chapter 17 You will see some who were standing there Peter, James and John at 16, have seen the Son of Man coming in his kingdom at 17. Please read Chapter 17:1-3
    AFTER SIX DAYS Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves.2 There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light. 3 Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.
    4 Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.”
    5 While he was still speaking, a bright cloud covered them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!”
    //I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God.
    Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven//.
    Here the word HEREAFTER is important. It is going to happen in the future. For that you must refer to Daniel prophecy about Jesus given around 600 years before. It is given belo:
    13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like A SON OF MAN, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given AUTHURITY GLORY AND SOVEREIGN POWER; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed. Daniel 7:13-14
    When he heard the answer of Jesus the Chief priest, who had memorised all prophecies about the coming Messiah, tore his cloths in anger and sentenced Jesus to death, shouting ‘blasphemy’.
    //Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.//
    Jesus said “And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come” Mathew 24:14 Out of 6000 languages in the world, the Bible is translated (important parts) only around 2,200 languages. How can Jesus judge the whole humanity without proclaim the Gospel message to all people?
    Jesus has predicted many things: the betrayal of Judas, His death, His resurrection, descending of the Holy Spirit, destruction of the Temple, destruction of Jerusalem and the end of the world and His second coming and judgement of whole humanity. There is some confusion for certain people in Mathew Chapter 24. There the destruction of Jerusalem and the end of the world is predicted together. The temple and Jerusalem was destroyed in AD 70, just 40 years after the death of Jesus. So the ‘generation’ Jesus mentioned would have been there to witness all His predictions fulfilled, except the end of the world and His second coming.

  25. Passive observer says:

    @Continuum
    You do not research the Gospel, if you do you will find so many predictions come true. Can you cry over a city and can still true after 2000 years?
    Jesus, during the last visit to Jerusalem, just few days before His death He Wept over Jerusalem (Luke 19: 41-45)
    O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones God’s messengers! How often I have wanted to gather your children together as a hen protects her chicks beneath her wings, but you wouldn’t let me. And now, look, your house is abandoned. And you will never see me again until you say, ‘Blessings on the one who comes in the name of the Lord!”(13:34-35)
    Can you see the predictions? Jerusalem is still the hot spot in the world. “Look your House (of worship) is abandoned” Even after 2000 years Jews have no temple. Now the Israeli P.M thinks of building a temmpl.
    “And you will never see me again until you say, ‘Blessings on the one who comes in the name of the Lord!” It predicts His second coming.

    Please see Mary’s prediction. “From now on all generations will call me blessed. For the Mighty One has done great things for me” (Luke 1:46-55)
    If you include the Muslims, as Mary is mentioned 100 time in the Koran, approximately 4000 million people call her blessed.

    Have you ever wondered about the Jews who have now settled in Israel after 2000 years.
    Jews have defiled their land by shedding the precious blood of Jesus and they were scattered all over the world. The prophecy is as follows;
    “If you do not obey the Lord your God, I am giving you today …..You will be uprooted from the land you are entering to posses. Then the Lord will scatter you among the nations, from one end of the earth to the other.( Deuteronomy 28: 15-16, 25, 63-64)”
    Finally Jews will be settled in their own land. The prophecy as follows:
    “In that day” says the Lord, “When people are taking an oath, They will no longer say “As surely as the LORD lives, who rescued the people of Israel, from the land of Egypt, but as the LORD lives ,who brought up and led the offspring of the house of Israel, from the North country and out of all the countries where he had driven them,’ Then they shall dwell in their own land” (Jeremiah 23:7)

    There are more than 300 predictions that have come true. I know you will not be interested in it. You just want to release your anger and you copy/paste. I know you are angry because your neighbours, some Brahmins some Sikhs have accepted Jesus as their saviour. Please be cool; the percentage of Christians in India is after ten years. Before it was 2.31% now 2.23%
    I think you are very young. Please file what I have written here. You may look back when you are old and sick in the bed. You may find some wisdom. I stop my comments on this subject. I am busy, I am going on a furlough in two weeks time.

  26. Continuum says:

    EVIDENCE THAT SINFUL MAMZER JEEBUS WAS DELUSIONAL…

    Jeebus being delusional thought that he is going to return in the clouds gloriously to establish kingdom of god before the first generation of his disciples died. HISTORICALLY WE KNOW THAT THIS IS PATENTED LIES as it has been 2000 years since this delusional suicidal maniac died and no sign yet of his so called return. The following numerous verses from goose-pels clearly prove this to be the case where jeebus under delusion thinks he will descend from clouds and establish god’s kingdom before jeebus’ contemporaries died.

    ALL THE FOLLOWING VERSES CLEARLY SHOW THAT MAMZER JEEBUS WAS A DELUSIONAL MAN WHO OBVIOUSLY GAVE FALSE PROPHECIES ABOUT himself.

    Matthew 16:28
    King James Bible
    Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

    Matthew 10:23
    King James Bible
    But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.

    Matthew 23:36
    King James 2000 Bible
    Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

    Matthew 24:34
    King James Bible
    Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

    Matthew 26:63-64
    King James Bible
    57And they that had laid hold on Jesus led him away to Caiaphas the high priest, where the scribes and the elders were assembled.
    63But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God.
    Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

    Mark 9
    1And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.
    Mark 13:29-30 (Here jeebus refers to his disciples that they will be witnesses for last days 23 times in 32 verses)
    In the same way, when you see all these things taking place, you can know that his return is very near, right at the door.
    King James Bible
    Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.

    Mark 14:62
    King James Bible
    53And they led Jesus away to the high priest: and with him were assembled all the chief priests and the elders and the scribes.
    And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
    Luke 9:27
    King James Bible
    But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.
    Luke 21:32
    King James Bible
    Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

    FIRST CHRISTIANS BELIEVED IN THE SAME DELUSIONS: FIRST CHRISTIANS BELIEVED IN THE SAME DELUSIONS: THESE EARLY CHRISTIANS ALSO BELIEVED IN DELUSIONS THAT JMAMZER JEEBUS WILL RETURN IN THEIR TIME. 2000 years have passed and THIS FAKE JEEBUS IS DEAD AND NOWHEREE TO BE FOUND.

    1 Corinthians 7:29
    New International Version
    What I mean, brothers and sisters, is that the time is short. From now on those who have wives should live as if they do not;
    1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
    King James Bible
    For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
    Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
    1 Peter 4:7 
    King James Bible
    But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.
    REVELATION ALSO TALKS ABOUT THE SAME DELUSIONAL THINKING OF JEEBUS.
    Revelation 1:1-7
    1The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John,………………..
    3Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.
    7″Look, he is coming with the clouds,” and “every eye will see him, even those who pierced him”; and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.” So shall it be! Amen.

    Revelation 22
    6The angel said to me, “These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God who inspires the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place.”
    12″Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done.
    20He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.
    Clearly Jeebus was a fake delusional suicidal maniac, who thought he was “son of god” but in reality mentally retarded and suicidal delusional maniac. Even, the old testament itself calls such people as fake prophets.

    Deuteronomy 18:22
    New International Version
    If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed.

    Christian Rationalization of Failure of Jeebus: Evidence that FIRST CHRSTIANS WERE WORRIED ABOUT JEEBUS NOT RETURNING AT ALL…AND THEREFORE JUSTIFYING IT. Ironically these verses prove that jeebus has failed the prophecy as at the least one generation has passed.

    • BLAME OTHERS FOR FAILURE: Peter blames others for jeebus’ failure
    2 Peter 3
    3Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires.
    4They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.”

    • Cognitive dissonance and disconfirmation subsumed into larger more important belief system:
    o Silly Response:
    Mark13:32 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
    Nobody knows the day or hour argument. While nobody knows the hour or day, including Jeebus, what Jeebus predicted in Mark 13:30 does not exclude Mark 13:32. Jeebus predicted that the generation shall see all things (including second coming), any day or hour, but did not know exactly the day or hour which the generation will see those signs.
    Mark 13:23 So be on your guard; I have told you everything ahead of time.
    Clearly Jeebus says, he has told everything that is to happen in future and therefore they need to be on guard. He is using precise language here, otherwise he cannot tell everything that will happen in future. The words “this generation will NOT pass” means exactly that.
    o Preterist perspective:
    This argument assumes all prophecies were already fulfilled, as in Roman destruction of Jewish temple in 70 CE. They fail in respect of prophecy of Jeebus as following. They try to spiritualize the prophecies.
    Mark13:26 “At that time people will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory.
    Matthew 24:26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.
    Matthew24:27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
    The prophecy clearly talks about Jeebus coming will be physically seen as one sees the lightning. Clearly Preterist spiritualizing does not and fail to explain this prophecy.
    Even Matthew 24:26, disagrees with the Preterist claim of spiritualization, saying Jeebus is hidden…Matthew clearly says that Jeebus will appear physically before everybody and will be visible just as lightning is visible to everybody. OBVIOUSLY JEEBUS HAS FAILED TO SATISFY THIS PROPHECY.

    o Futurist perspective
    PETER ASSURES HIS FOLLOWERS TO WAIT AND JEEBUS WILL COME…EVEN EARLY CHRISTIANS KNEW THAT JEEBUS BROKE HIS PROMISE…
    2 Peter 3:9
    King James Bible
    The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
    10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.
    Again Mark 13:30 clearly says that the contemporary generation (Mark 13:30 clearly refers to his contemporaries, the disciples in particular as “you, this generation” “Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.” ) will see everything and has failed for 2000 years. Does not answer the clear prophetic failure.

  27. Continuum says:

    When Jesus saw Peter and Andrew fishing, Jesus called out to them, “Come follow me, I will make you fishers of men” (Mathew 4:19)
    Even today hundreds of thousands of missionaries are fishing for people in 190 countries.
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    You call this prophecy….A prophecy must contain a specific event, names of people, place, time of event etc.

    These are not prophecies….

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    “Then the Jesus asked them, “Didn’t you ever read this in the scriptures? ‘The stone that the builders rejected has become the corner stone; This was the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? (Mathew 21:42)
    Do you agree that Jesus has become the corner stone of the world society? Whether the American Declaration of Independence, the French Declaration of Rights of Man, The Declaration of Human Rights of the UNO, the Magna Carta, Democracy (though invented by the Greeks), or the MAY DAY that originated in Chicago, the Modern University system, etc. etc all direct to the root cause JESUS.”
    ===========================

    Again, this is NOT prophecy at all…Vague ambiguous statements can be interpreted and made to fit anything you want….

    This would have become a prophecy, had mamzer jeebus predicted about formation of a nation 1800 years in future, where they will form a constitution and that jeebus himself will the cornerstone for this. Did mamzer jeebus predict specifically in this manner? NO….what we have is you trying to fit vague ambiguous words of a dead suicidal maniac jeebus to future events..

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    “The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and planted in his field. Though it is the smallest of all your seeds, yet when it grows, it is the largest of garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and perch in its branches.”(Mathew 13:31-32)
    Is this not a prophecy comes true even after 2000 years?
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    NO…not at all….This is your misinterpretation of events. There are many religions that spread all over the world. Buddhism for example….

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    Do you expect Jesus to predict like Nostradamus?
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    I do expect so called predictions to be specific events, places, people with names and time period with no chance of misinterpretations. Even Nostradamus did not meet this standard.

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    Do you want more? I can write later as I am busy preparing to go overseas for three months.
    I know you will give scant regard to Jesus, perhaps you will curse Him in your coffin and die.
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    I can show you where mamzer jeebus utterly failed in his so called predictions showing clearly he is a fraud.

  28. Passive observer says:

    Face_The_Truth
    // But there is not a single case in the whole Abrahamic prophetic tradition of a prophet making a genuine prediction (not one visibly back-projected by the later editors) about something normally unforeseeable, and getting it right.//
    I am inclined to believe that you have never read the Gospels with the heart searching for the Truth, though you have the screen name Face_The_Truth. Many of Jesus’ simple statements have become true even after 2000 years.
    When Jesus saw Peter and Andrew fishing, Jesus called out to them, “Come follow me, I will make you fishers of men” (Mathew 4:19)
    Even today hundreds of thousands of missionaries are fishing for people in 190 countries.
    You know Jesus was rejected by the Jewish people and was crucified. Now look at his statement before He was arrested.
    Then the Jesus asked them, “Didn’t you ever read this in the scriptures? ‘The stone that the builders rejected has become the corner stone; This was the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? (Mathew 21:42)
    Do you agree that Jesus has become the corner stone of the world society? Whether the American Declaration of Independence, the French Declaration of Rights of Man, The Declaration of Human Rights of the UNO, the Magna Carta, Democracy (though invented by the Greeks), or the MAY DAY that originated in Chicago, the Modern University system, etc. etc all direct to the root cause JESUS.

    Jesus, along with only twelve disciples at hand, in Palestine, a remote place, wanted to say through a parable, how his preaching will be accepted by many nations and peoples of the world.
    “The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and planted in his field. Though it is the smallest of all your seeds, yet when it grows, it is the largest of garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and perch in its branches.”(Mathew 13:31-32)
    Is this not a prophecy comes true even after 2000 years? Do you expect Jesus to predict like Nostradamus?
    Do you want more? I can write later as I am busy preparing to go overseas for three months.
    I know you will give scant regard to Jesus, perhaps you will curse Him in your coffin and die.

    MANY ARE CALLED BUT FEW ARE CHOSEN (Mt.21:14 to understand Jesus)
    NOT EVERYONE SEEING SEES
    NOT EVERYONE HEARING HEARS.(Mathew 13:13)

  29. Passive observer says:

    Face_The_Truth

    //“Long time ago, once I asked a Christian preacher to predict the 6 numbers of New York Power-Ball Lottery and I also promised to convert to Christianity upon winning the lottery and to remain a Christian for the rest of my life!”//

    I have a lot of respect for you, because of your screen name “Face_The_Truth but you have let me down. How can you accept Christianity for the sake of lottery money without searching for the TRUTH? Even the preacher must be either a bogus one, or it is your made up story. No Christian preacher would consent for such a miracle. For Jesus said “No one can serve two masters. For you will hate one and love the other; you will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money. (Mathew 6:24).

    Jesus has never done miracles like a magician nor like Indian Godmen, giving gold chains and wrist watches. Jesus always healed the sick saying “Your sins are forgiven”. Sometimes He revived the dead or walked on the sea or stop the storm in or to prove he has divine powers; that he had come from heaven.
    “This is love; not that we loved God but that He loved us and sent His Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins” (1John 4:10 )

    “Raththa prethoshanam paapa vimosanam” – Sama Veda-.

  30. Face_The_Truth says:

    “Even if this preacher had predicted the winning numbers, I still would believe that it was [a] sheer coincidence.”

    To prove that Christianism. Islam and Judaism are fraud, one does NOT need a better proof than with money!

    Christians, Muslims and Jews worship a fictitious God the Father or Allah or Jehovah in order to murder non-believers and loot non-believers’ lands and properties.

    The Christian preacher did NOT take my bait, because the Christian preacher knew that his chance of winning New York Power-Ball is almost zero.

    Anyone can accurately predict the one winner out of two political leaders running for a public-office!

    However, when it comes to real money, we find that so-called Christian “Psychics” or “Prophets” actually DO NOT win lotteries and the so-called Christian “Faith-Healers” are NOT employed by Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Hospital.

  31. A.H. says:

    “Long time ago, once I asked a Christian preacher to predict the 6 numbers of New York Power-Ball Lottery and I also promised to convert to Christianity upon winning the lottery and to remain a Christian for the rest of my life!”

    I see, only money convinces you.

    Even if this preacher had predicted the winning numbers, I still would believe that it was sheer coincidence.

    Matthew 19:24 King James Version (KJV)

    24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

  32. Face_The_Truth says:

    Long time ago, once I asked a Christian preacher to predict the 6 numbers of New York Power-Ball Lottery and I also promised to convert to Christianity upon winning the lottery and to remain a Christian for the rest of my life!

    The Christian preacher told me that, he was not a prophet and, furthermore, only a true prophet would be able to foretell six lucky numbers of New York Power-Ball ahead of the draw.

    Looks like Christian, Jewish and Islamic prophets cannot predict the next winning numbers of a lottery, which is just like the fact that Christian, Jewish and Islamic prophets actually cannot cure terminal-cancer patients and world’s cancer-hospitals do not employ any Christian or Jewish or Islamic prophet.

  33. Found The Truth says:

    This is Christian man of God prophesying that Trump will be President before Aug 20, 2016 (that’s the date the video was uploaded) despite the mainstream media predicting Hillary to win.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgVCRLfT590

  34. Face_The_Truth says:

    ‘The Bible itself says that a false prophet can be recognized by his predictions NOT coming true (Deut. 18:22).

    By that standard, most prophets were false, and we wonder why God would allow such misuse of His name, and even the sanctification of this false prophetism as Sacred Scripture.

    The failed predictions are one reason for definitely rejecting the claim that an omniscient supernatural being, Yahweh, was speaking through the prophets.

    Like everyone, they were sometimes right on common-sense predictions about politics or about the logical consequences of people’s behaviour: e.g., Mohammed’s correct prediction of a Byzantine come-back in the war with the seemingly unstoppable Persian army.

    But there is not a single case in the whole Abrahamic prophetic tradition of a prophet making a genuine prediction (not one visibly back-projected by the later editors) about something normally unforeseeable, and getting it right.

    It is like the common astrologer who can, along with many non-astrologers, predict which of two candidates will win an election, but proves incapable of foreseeing the place and date of the next big earthquake.

    It gets worse when we consider the eschatological predictions (referring to ultimate doom, the coming of the Messiah, and Judgment Day), a matter that should be dose to God’s heart.

    So far, all such predictions have badly failed, from Jeremiah through Jesus, Saint Paul, the different Apocalypse books, Mohammed, the Medieval millenarists, the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

    Nostradamus enthusiasts claim their hero has predicted the end for 1999; let us see!

    So far, the prophets did not demonstrably have any access to a higher source of knowledge.

    The Christian Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that they are the select segment of humanity that will inherit the earth after the imminent catastrophe of which the scenario has been given in the Apocalypse.

    Christian Jehovah’s Witnesses’s founder Charles Tase Russell said, Jesus would return in 1874 and complete his work in 1914, when God’s Kingdom would start.

    Charles Tase Russell’s successor Franklin Rutherford predicted in 1920 that “millions living now will never die”, and had a royal mansion built for Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, due to return in 1925.

    When the prediction failed to materialize, the Christian Jehovah’s Witnesses claimed that it had been made by “the old light”, and that “the new light” would surely do better!

    Another leader, Nathan Homer Knorr, predicted the Armageddon catastrophe for 1975, to be followed by God’s empire.

    Then, W.F. Franz predicted 1986, etc.

    So, if ever you are troubled by those obtrusive Christian Jehovah preachers, simply say to them: “Deuteronomy 18:22.”

    But remark how these failures are always rationalized by the Christian believers: The fact that a prophet has a following and keeps it, does not prove that his prophecies come true.

    Some Christian believers may shrug off the cold test of prediction as a kill-joy, but it is considered pertinent by scientists: Genuine knowledge is proven by accurate predictions.

    The source of the prophets’ statements was not any genuine knowledge, but uncertain opinions and beliefs, ranging from common sense opinions and theological doctrines to psychopathological delusions.

    Certainly it was not an omniscient God who communicated their failed predictions, unless He was also malicious.’

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    William Benjamin Smith, “Ecce Deus: Studies of Primitive Christianity”, London, England, 1912

    l. Gordon Rylands, “Did Jesus Ever Live?”, Watts & Co., London, England, 1929

    William James Durant, “The Story of Civilization, Part III, Caesar and Christ”, Fourth Printing, New York, USA, 1944

    Morton Smith, “Clement of Alexandria and a Secret Gospel of Mark”, English, Greek and Latin Edition, Harvard University Press, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA, 1973

    John Van Seters, “Abraham in History and Tradition”, Yale University Press, New Haven, Connecticut, USA, 1975

    Paul Johnson, “A History of Christianity”, Penguin Books, London, England, 1978

    Michael Thomas Walter Arnheim, “Is Christianity True?”, London, England, 1984

    George Albert Wells, “Did Jesus Exist?”, Second Edition, London, England, 1986

    Koenraad Elst, “Psychology of Prophetism: A Secular Look at the Bible”, New Delhi, India, 1993

    Charles Bradley Templeton, “Farewell to God: My Reasons for Rejecting
    the Christian Faith”, McClelland & Stewart, Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada, 1996

    Earl J. Doherty, “The Jesus Puzzle: Did Christianity Begin with a Mythical Christ?”, Canadian Humanist Publications, Ottawa, Canada, 1999

    Daniel Edwin Barker, “Losing Faith in Faith: From Preacher to Atheist”, Fourth Printing, Freedom From Religion Foundation, Inc., Madison, Wisconsin, USA, 2003

    Thomas L. Thompson, “The Historicity of the Patriarchal Narratives: The Quest for the Historical Abraham”, Walter de Gruyter GmbH, Berlin, Germany, Reprint 2016

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    LINK

    http://www.kyroot.com/

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    https://infidels.org/library/modern/paul_carlson/nt_contradictions.html

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    http://infidels.org/library/modern/keith_parsons/whynotchristian.html

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    http://markhumphrys.com/christianity.killings.html

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    http://ideonexus.com/2012/02/12/101-reasons-why-evolution-is-true/

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    http://www.drabruzzi.com/ZINDLER-JESUS.PDF

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    https://orphicplatonism.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/jesus-christ-an-artifice-for-aggression-by-sita-ram-goel.pdf

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    http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/

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    http://www.i4m.com/think/bible/historical_jesus.htm

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    https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/did-jesus-exist/

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    http://www.dawnhorsepress.com/images/products/sample/SecretGospelAppendix.pdf

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    https://www.onfaith.co/onfaith/author/paula-kirby

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    http://marvinhmills.com/writings/The_Temple_Mount_and_Crustal_Displacement_Marvin_Mills_1.pdf

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    http://marvinhmills.com/writings/phoenicianoriginsofthemosqueofcordobamadinaazaharaandthealhambra.pdf

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    http://asccramanandnagar.org/Ebooks/Godbole%20book%20on%20Taj.pdf

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  35. Driepinter says:

    @ face the truth. If you want to believe it there shall also be a story available about the ‘historical adam and eve’.

  36. Face_The_Truth says:

    Who was this Abraham?

    ‘In the early and middle 20th century, leading archaeologists such as William F. Albright and Biblical scholars such as Albrecht Alt believed that the patriarchs and matriarchs were either real individuals or believable composites of people who lived in the “patriarchal age”, the 2nd millennium BC.

    But, in the 1970s, new arguments concerning Israel’s past and the Biblical texts challenged these views; these arguments can be found in Thomas L. Thompson’s The Historicity of the Patriarchal Narratives (1974), and John Van Seters’ Abraham in History and Tradition (1975).

    Thomas L. Thompson, a literary scholar, based his argument on archaeology and ancient texts. His thesis centered on the lack of compelling evidence that the patriarchs lived in the 2nd millennium BC, and noted how certain biblical texts reflected first millennium conditions and concerns.

    John Van Seters examined the patriarchal stories and argued that their names, social milieu, and messages strongly suggested that they were Iron Age creations.

    By the beginning of the 21st century, archaeologists had given up hope of recovering any context that would make Abraham, Isaac or Jacob credible historical figures.’

    LINK

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham

  37. Driepinter says:

    Also. “Abraham” is Hebrew for “father of many”. “Ibrahim” has no meaning in Arab. “Ibrahim” is nothing more than “Arab” for “Abraham”. So “Ibrahim” is just a story invented by Muhammed.

  38. Driepinter says:

    “the more exact term was the “Three Theistic Religions;” which set Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, apart from the Asiatic faiths, which were either polytheistic, or pantheistic.”.
    No. The more exact term was the “Three Monotheistic Religions”.

  39. Driepinter says:

    Abraham did nether excist. Like Adam and Eve.

  40. Face_The_Truth says:

    Dear readers:

    As often as I do not like, there remain unintentional missing WORDS in my written sentences since I frequently do not have editing time (or mood) before I post my comments.

    For examples:

    The author’s (Thomas Jacob) “The Myth of the Three Abrahamic Religions” omits one astonishing truth and that is extreme cruelty towards animals and other humans as THERE’S NO “Divine” injunction(s) AGAINST CRUELTY from fictitious “Jehovah” or fictitious “God the Father” or the most notoriously fictitious “Allah”.

    According to ONE OF my most admired psychiatrists, Dr. Sigmund Schlomo Freud, stealing and adultery (or fornication) are primitive urges within humans, because psycho-pathologically humans manifest either one of THOSE two primitive urges!

    We also observe within the 10 Jewish commandments, another command is “Thou shall not steal” (i.e., do NOT deprive the owner of his/HER rightful ownership of anything).

  41. Face_The_Truth says:

    The author’s (Thomas Jacob) “The Myth of the Three Abrahamic Religions” omits one astonishing truth and that is extreme cruelty towards animals and other humans as “Divine” injunction(s) from fictitious “Jehovah” or fictitious “God the Father” or the most notoriously fictitious “Allah”.

    The barbaric practice of beheading of non-believers goes back to ancient Jewish traditions of Jewish prophets, which medieval Christian kings in Europe also wantonly used against their political opponents.

    If my readers want historic examples, I can easily cite one after another beheadings of political opponents that took place within the British dynasty during medieval time as well as after the so-called “Enlightenment”.

    Jews were subjected to so many pogroms and holocausts throughout the medieval time that, today’s Jews pretend like Jews were the most civilized people on earth and the barbaric practice of beheading or decapitation of political or religious opponents was totally unknown to ancient Jews.

    Therefore, today’s Jews and today’s Christians will tell us that only the followers of Islam systematically committed as well as routinely commit beheading of non-believers as well as of political opponents to this day!

    History shows that, Jews and Christians changed due to revolution(s) and counter-revolution(s) within Jews and Christians in the past 2000 years whilst world’s Muslims remained steadfast adherents of barbaric Jewish and Christian customs of beheading or decapitation of political or of religious opponents.

    Torture of animals is also potently inherent within “the Three Abrahamic Religions” of Middle East where fictitious “Jehovah” or fictitious “God the Father” or fictitious “Allah” commands that all animals have been solely created for the happiness and pleasure of the believers of “Jehovah” or “God the Father” or “Allah”.

    LINK

    http://www.breitbart.com/news/nepals-last-known-two-dancing-bears-rescued-officials/

    LINK

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/12/hugh-fitzgerald-if-its-christmas-it-must-be-time-for-jesus-in-the-quran

  42. Face_The_Truth says:

    Thomas Jacob — the author — in his “The Myth of the Three Abrahamic Religions” has NOT mentioned that Judaism, Christianism and Islamism have fictitious and unverifiable accounts of humanity as well as fictitious and unverifiable accounts of the creation of the universe.

    Jews believe that our earth and the universe were built by a fictitious Jewish God named Jehovah who created humanity out of fictitious Adam and Eve!

    Christians believe that our earth and the universe were built by a fictitious God the Father within only 7 literal days!

    Islamists or Muslims believe that our earth and the universe was built by a fictitious Islamic creator named Allah who wanted Islamic angels to bow to Adam, but never bow to Eve.

    But, world’s biologists and world’s astronomers believe that our earth and the universe were NOT actually built by a fictitious Jehovah or a fictitious God the Father or a fictitious Allah from Middle Eastern desert-lands.

    LINK

    http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/12/19/scientists-reveal-interstellar-object-oumuamua-has-organic-shell/

    LINK

    http://ideonexus.com/2012/02/12/101-reasons-why-evolution-is-true/

  43. Face_The_Truth says:

    Since the author — Thomas Jacob — has not elaborated on the historic (pre-Islamic) Pagan origin of Ka’ba in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, below I write for my readers a quote from my readings.

    I also post for my readers about the pre-Judaic Pagan origin of the Temple Mount in the Old City of Jerusalem in the following LINKS.

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    LINK

    http://marvinhmills.com/writings/The_Temple_Mount_and_Crustal_Displacement_Marvin_Mills_1.pdf

    LINK

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2itFIZyvBrE

    LINK

    http://marvinhmills.com/writings/phoenicianoriginsofthemosqueofcordobamadinaazaharaandthealhambra.pdf

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    Indian historian Sita Ram Goel wrote:

    ‘Muslim historians tell us on the authority of the Islam’s Prophet that idolaters of Arabia had set up idols in places which were meant to be mosques when they were established for the first time by Abraham.

    The mosque of Ka’ba, we are told, had been built by Abraham at the very centre of the earth.

    Those who dismiss Rama as mythological gossip and deny him a place of birth at Ayodhya, India, may well enquire whether Abraham was a historical person who actually presided over the building of the Ka’ba!

    It is, however, recorded history that the armies of Islam did everywhere what had been done in Arabia, as they advanced into Iran, Khorasan, Transoxiana, Seistan, Afghanistan, and India.

    Hundreds of thousands of Fire Temples of the Zoroastrians, Buddhist monasteries, and “Hindu” temples disappeared or yielded place to mosques, ziarats, and dargahs. Modern archaeology, has reconstructed what happened along the trail of Islamic invasion of all these ancient lands.

    When Islam’s founder Muhammad entered the Ka’ba after his conquest of Mecca by overwhelming force, he declared, “Truth has come and falsehood has vanished.”

    Some years ago I read an article proposing that the Ka’ba was a Shiva Temple before it was converted into a mosque by Islam’s Prophet Muhammad.

    The article cited a long hymn in Arabic addressed to Mahãdeva who, according to the article, was the presiding deity of the Ka’ba.

    The hymn, it was stated, had been composed in the reign of Vikramãditya of Ujjain in the first century B.C.

    A friend who got interested tried to get the hymn traced to the extant collection of pre-Islamic Arab poetry!

    He approached several libraries abroad, but drew a blank.

    He as well as I then DISMISSED the proposition as the product of that school of “Hindu” historians according to whom every building everywhere in the world was a Hindu monument at one time!

    But in the course of the present study I have run into some facts which force me to revise my judgment.

    I am not yet prepared to say that the Ka’ba was a Shiva temple.

    I, however, cannot resist the conclusion that it was a hallowed place of “Hindu” pilgrimage.

    The facts are being placed before the readers for whatever worth they possess.’

    LINK

    http://voiceofdharma.org/books/htemples2/app2.htm

  44. Passive observer says:

    Face_The_Truth
    Thanks, I have filed the beautiful versus of Sanatana Dharma. There is a difference between proselyting and Evangelising. Proselyting is asking to convert or attempting to convert someone with allurement; whereas evangelising is preaching. Anyone can accept it or reject it. All democracies allow evangelising and propagate faith. Especially so with Faith Freedom.

  45. Face_The_Truth says:

    Only in Sanãtana Dharma I find the following sentences as no other religious path on earth — to our knowledge — has ever said anything similar the followings:

    ॐ असतो मा सद्गमय ।
    तमसो मा ज्योतिर्गमय ।
    मृत्योर्मा अमृतं गमय ।
    आविराविर्म एधि ।
    ॐ शान्तिः शान्तिः शान्तिः ॥

    Meaning:
    Lead us from the unreal to the real
    Lead us from darkness to light
    Lead us from death to immortality!
    Let the Knowledge of the Self-Manifest Atman Grow in Me
    Om! Peace! Peace! Peace!

    ॐ पूर्णमदः पूर्णमिदं पूर्णात्पुर्णमुदच्यते
    पूर्णश्य पूर्णमादाय पूर्णमेवावशिष्यते ॥
    ॐ शान्तिः शान्तिः शान्तिः ॥

    Meaning:
    Om! That is infinite, and this (universe) is infinite.
    The infinite proceeds from the infinite.
    (Then) taking the infinitude of the infinite (universe),
    It remains as the infinite alone.
    Om! Peace! Peace! Peace!

    ॐ सर्वेशां स्वस्तिर्भवतु ।
    सर्वेशां शान्तिर्भवतु ।
    सर्वेशां पुर्णंभवतु ।
    सर्वेशां मङ्गलंभवतु ।
    ॐ शान्तिः शान्तिः शान्तिः ॥

    Meaning:
    May there be Well-Being in All,
    May there be Peace in All,
    May there be Fulfilment in All,
    May there be Auspiciousness in All,
    Om! Peace! Peace! Peace!

    ॐ सर्वे भवन्तु सुखिनः
    सर्वे सन्तु निरामयाः ।
    सर्वे भद्राणि पश्यन्तु
    मा कश्चिद्दुःखभाग्भवेत् ।
    ॐ शान्तिः शान्तिः शान्तिः ॥

    Meaning:
    Om, May All become Happy,
    May All be Free from Illness.
    May All See what is Auspicious,
    May no one Suffer!
    Om! Peace! Peace! Peace!

    ॐ वाङ् मे मनसि प्रतिष्ठिता ।
    मनो मे वाचि प्रतिष्ठितम् ।
    आविराविर्म एधि ।
    वेदस्य म आणीस्थः ।
    श्रुतं मे मा प्रहासीः
    अनेनाधीतेनाहोरात्रान्सन्दधामि ।
    ऋतं वदिष्यामि ।
    सत्यं वदिष्यामि ।
    तन्मामवतु ।
    तद्वक्तारमवतु ।
    अवतु माम् ।
    अवतु वक्तारामवतु वक्तारम् ॥
    ॐ शान्तिः शान्तिः शान्तिः ॥

    Meaning:
    Om, Let My Speech be Established in My Mind,
    Let My Mind be Established in My Speech,
    Let the Knowledge of the Self-Manifest Atman Grow in Me,
    Let My Mind and Speech be the Support to Experience the Knowledge of the Vedas,
    Let what is Heard by Me (from the Vedas) be Not a mere Appearance …
    but what is Gained by Studying Day and Night be Retained.
    I Speak about the Divine Truth,
    I Speak about the Absolute Truth,
    May That Protect Me,
    May That Protect the Preceptor,
    May that Protect Me,
    May that Protect the Preceptor, May that Protect the Preceptor,
    Om! Peace! Peace! Peace!

    ॐ द्यौः शान्तिरन्तरिक्षं शान्तिः
    पृथिवी शान्तिरापः शान्तिरोषधयः शान्तिः ।
    वनस्पतयः शान्तिर्विश्वेदेवाः शान्तिर्ब्रह्म शान्तिः
    सर्वं शान्तिः शान्तिरेव शान्तिः सा मा शान्तिरेधि ॥
    ॐ शान्तिः शान्तिः शान्तिः ॥

    Meaning:
    May peace radiate there in the whole sky as well as in the vast ethereal space everywhere.
    May peace reign all over this earth, in water and in all herbs, trees and creepers.
    May peace flow over the whole universe.
    May peace be in the Supreme Being Brahman.
    And may there always exist in all peace and peace alone.
    Om! Peace! Peace! Peace to us and all beings!

  46. That we will see. We have seen comments from some readers maligning Hindu religion and Hindus based on propaganda and lies, on which you have a valid point. But that is no reason for you to use un-Parliamentary language. Irrespective of what anyone writes, everyone must use correct language. Filthy language will not be tolerated. Regards, Admin

  47. A.H. says:

    @Unknown Scholar

    “Repeated violations will be dealt with strictly”

    Finally, faith freedom is fine, but antisemitism cannot be tolerated.

    Thanks!

  48. Face_The_Truth says:

    To Unknown Scholar:

    Please stop Christian proselytizers on this FaithFreedom.Org website.

    I do not and DID NOT initiate any conversation with Christian proselytizers.

    Christian proselytizers DID repeatedly try to proselytize me with millennia-old Christian falsehoods.

    Rational and collegial arguments DO NOT work with Christian proselytizers.

    Best regards.

  49. Most unfortunately, many or most of the Editors are also very busy and can’t be logged in. This Editor tries his best to delete comments with un-Parliamentary language, or at least edit them. This editor will try to log in more frequently and do so. This admin has also addressed one such comment maker directly and asked him to avoid filthy language. Repeated violations will be dealt with strictly.

  50. thanca says:

    Dr. Ali Sina
    I shall be glad if you would instruct the moderator to delete all filthy comments or to ban those commentators who consistently use filthy language. I remember once this site was one of the top few thousand sites. Hope you will strive hard to bring back this site to a new level. Any religionists, whether Buddhists, Hindus, Christians, Muslims or Atheists, humanists should be able to opine in this Faith Freedom, without being attacked with vulgar language. Many Muslims were chased out with “Pedo-Mohammad” “pimp Allah” etc. Now this site is totally devoid of their say. This is my personal opinion.

  51. Face_The_Truth says:

    Dear readers:

    Islam, Christianism and Judaism were all man-made false and harmful religions where inherent human darkness of mind was profoundly manifested.

    Like biological evolution processes, human social structures are also evolutionary as well as revolutionary.

    From pre-historic times, humans (i.e., Homo sapiens) evolved both biologically and socially.

    Those people today who claim that, Western civilization’s morality and moral laws came exclusively from or originated exclusively from Christianism and Judaism in order to form and sustain Western Civilization are liars.

    And, liars are everywhere from top-level public and private universities to top-level government and non-governmental positions.

    Judaism incorporated many things from non-Jews and, subsequently, propagated those things as the de novo inventions of Judaism.

    Similarly, Christianism incorporated many things from Judaism and discarded many things from Judaism as well, for example, Christian scribes wrote an absolutely fictitious moral story in the New Testament about Joshua Ben-Joseph saving a harlot from being stoned to death according to Jewish moral laws of the day.

    Islam unabashedly incorporated stoning female adulterers to death, cutting off limbs for the crime of stealing, and beheading of apostates and non-believers of Islam strictly from Jewish moral laws.

    Jews rejected polytheism and created so-called “Mono-Theism” for exclusive worship of a fictitious Jewish God named “Jehovah” who did not like to be worshipped with anyone else!

    Similarly, Islam’s founder incorporated fictitious Jewish God named “Jehovah” by just another name called “Allah” who refused to be worshipped along with any other God; because, Islam’s founder formulated and practiced on the idea that any other God was false, except Allah.

    So, the Poison-Tree of so-called “Mono-Theism” planted by the Jews under the guidance of Jewish prophet Moses for exterminating as well as subjugating all native people of Middle East in order to establish Judaism as the only true religion came to bite all Jews when Islam’s founder Muhammad claimed to be the last prophet in the succession of dozens of Jewish prophets in the annals of Judaism.

    Jewish prophets systematically murdered non-Jews to establish Judaism in Middle East and Islam’s founder murdered as well as exiled all Jews in order to establish Islamism in the medieval Arabian Peninsula and beyond.

    LINK

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/12/archeologists-discover-early-islamic-coins-featuring-an-image-of-a-menorah

  52. Face_The_Truth says:

    The author — Thomas Jacob — has alluded to the de-similarities between Christianism and Islam by the headline “The Myth of the Three Abrahamic Religions”.

    When I think about the headline, I find rather so many similarities that I can say, Islam’s founder actually lured pre-Islamic Arab people by Jãnnãt al’Ferdous (i.e., highest level of Islamic paradise) 1400 years ago.

    World’s faithful Muslims believe in the Last Day (Qiyãmat), the everlasting Paradise (Jãnnãt), and the infinite, never-ending Hell (Jãhãnnãm).

    Humans — by nature — seek better health, better lifestyle and better future!

    That’s just biological truth.

    Just by believing in Islamic doctrines — as given by Islam’s founder 1400 years ago — world’s faithful Muslims feel they are better off.

    Because, the alternative is the infinite Hell (Jãhãnnãm).

    World’s Muslims do not like Jãhãnnãm.

    World’s Muslims prefer Jãnnãt (the everlasting Islamic Paradise).

    Plus, brutally murdering non-believers of Islam as well as looting everything from non-believers of Islam is the eternal Islamic ideological commandment until Muslims conquer and displace all non-believers of Islam on earth!

    Who can deny world’s poor Muslims from becoming rich by dispossessing all non-believers of Islam in this world when, as I’ve said, it is within the human biological spirit that strives for betterment in any way possible?

    Muslims believe that earth belongs to them and non-believers of Islam are just pariahs who deserve death on earth and eternal punishment in Jãhãnnãm (Islamic Hell) after death.

    Similarly, world’s Christians condemn non-believers for not accepting “God the Father” and one and only begotten “Son” of “God the Father” who supposedly and or quite stupidly died on the Christian Cross for the “sins” of all non-believers!

    According to Christian doctrines, non-believers are the worshippers of demons and evil.

    According to Christian doctrines, non-believers are guided by the Satan.

    According to Christian doctrines, non-believers must be burned alive on earth and be allowed to burn and rot in everlasting Christian Hell after death.

    After all, non-believers committed “sins” and, always, keep committing “sins” while due to non-believers’ never-ending “sins”, the one and only begotten “Son” of “God the Father” died like a street-dog on the Christian Cross for no fault of his own!

    So, today’s Christians lure unsuspecting, gullible and financially poor to accept the one and only begotten “Son” of “God the Father” and “sin” no more.

    Once unsuspecting, gullible and financially poor accept and put into practice Christian doctrines as taught by Christian churches, the unsuspecting, gullible and financially poor seek betterment of their lives both physically and financially on earth while wait for the final day when those unsuspecting, gullible and financially poor will enter Christian Heaven for everlasting happiness that only Christianity can deliver!

    Who will blame unsuspecting, gullible and financially poor for seeking betterment of their miserable existence on earth?

  53. stanley says:

    To face the truth….like I said, what can one expect from a demon – possessed lunatic

  54. Face_The_Truth says:

    This message is written for screen-names Stanley_the_Christian and Passive_Observer_the_Christian:

    You Christians are congenital liars and, consequently, historic falsehoods are the base of world’s Christians all over.

    So, it is useless to refute your every sentence in your every post while wasting my valuable time in typing.

    Because, you Christians will believe in whatever serves your mental desires, not what the actual historical truth is.

    Christians like you conflate “Hindu” generosity and “Hindu” forbearance towards anyone throughout our known history as weakness of “Hindus” and “Hinduism”.

    You Christians and world’s Muslims unite to kill “Hindus” because of your shared Middle-Eastern “Mono-Theism”, which is nothing but demonizing non-believers of your Jesus Christ and Muhammad.

  55. stanley says:

    To Face the Truth…are you still spewing out filth? You’ve been doing that for a long time now. I am not surprised- what can one expect from a rat worshipping, demon possessed lunatic.

  56. Passive observer says:

    Face_The_Truth
    Oops! This is unbearable filth. I think the moderator is sleeping. Decent people runaway from this site. Face the truth, you are letting down the Hindu culture. I have a great respect for the Hindus and Hindu culture. Westerners too. They go to Bali because it is the only Hindu enclave. Only Christians and Hindus welcome multiculturism, not the Buddhist Japan or the Muslim Saudi Arabia. Credit should be given to Sanatana Dharma for absorbing the best from the British. According to K.N.Subramanian, a Brahmin, Novelist, literary critic, ‘British has changed the Indian life totally. They caused/influenced to stop, ‘sati’ (widow jumps into the husband’s burning pyre), to stop child marriages,(in 1820 when diarrhoea attacked, there were nearly one million child widows, widows are bad omen, so their heads are shaven and sent to the kitchen all their life)’. British missionaries brought a sort of renaissance to the 73 languages in North India alone; changes in the alphabet, creating dictionaries etc. British introduced parliamentary democracy and Christian civilization, etc.

    You can see the difference in the neighbouring country Afghanistan, where the British couldn’t enter. When a UNO officer Mr. A. Muthulingam visited Afghanistan in 1990, he met the wider cross section of people both educated and ordinary. He found that the most educated people know only up to the 7th multiplication table. In the book “FREEDOM AT MIDNIGHT” BY Larry Collins and Dominique Lapierre, they expected Muslims with one God would do well, but they found that Hindus who have outdone the Muslims. Yes, credit goes to Sanatana Dharma.
    You are a semi intellectual and I love you for your screen name Face-the-TRUTH. I have developed some fascination for the word. Please don’t open your filthy mouth in front of hundreds of your readers. I am afraid they may demean you

  57. Face_The_Truth says:

    Passive_Observer_the_Christian:

    I can go line by line refuting every sentence you wrote in your posts, for example, One Hundred Million British Pound Sterling EVERY YEAR in the 18th and in the 19th Century A.D. will probably amount to One Trillion U.S. Dollars today!

    But, it will be a total WASTE of my time to refute your posts line by line, because you will NOT read my sentences any anyway and two or three weeks later you Passive_Observer_the_Christian will spout your millennia old Christian falsehoods again on this website in order to convert unsuspecting gullible humans.

  58. Passive observer says:

    Face_The_Truth
    Cool down. Please do not spoil your blood. You are a beautiful child of this universe and you are following Sanatana dharma. You should not speak filthy and abusive words like that. I know you will not say sorry as your hatred will not permit you to do so.
    I agree I have a weakness for the word TRUTH. I have a liking for you simply because of your screen name Face The Truth. Of course TRUTH hurts everyone but not you. I have noticed your tone has changed to that of Ayatollah Khomeini. I have every right to write here in FAITH FREEDOM just as you do have. Please I beg you don’t write crap with your screen name. Though I did not hurt you anyway, yet I am sorry if I have hurt you and your hundreds of readers and followers in this site. I am not an Indian, so please write about Sanatana Dharma, Gita, Swamy Ramakrishna, Swamy Vivekananda’s speech in Chicago etc.,.

    YOU SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH WILL SET Y OU FREE .(John 8:32)

  59. Passive observer says:

    Jacob, thanks for the above article and for the article “Pope Francis Ignores the true nature of Islam”. My opinion is that Pope cannot behave like far right leaders. Fault lies with political correctness of the Western leaders. They have the clout not the Pope. Pope John Paul did say nothing about Islam, yet a Muslim youth Mehemet Accai shot him four times at a close range. Pope Francis behaves like Jesus with empathy, compassion and love. At least 10% of 1,600 million Muslims, about 160 million, watch the Pope how he conducts his affairs.
    As per your above article, though everyone calls “The three Abrahamic religions” there is a vast difference between Islam and Christianity. There is less than 1% of Catholics in Myanmar and so in Muslim Bangladesh, yet Pope Francis visited these countries. It was a great consolation to 600,000 Rohingya Muslim refugees, though he did nothing except appealing to the international community to do more help.
    When all the people of other religions searching for God and went up to Himalaya, only the Son of God came in search of man

    “Blessed is the Lord God for He has visited and redeemed His people” (Luke 1:68)
    “This is love; not that we loved God but that He loved us and sent His Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins” (1John 4:10)
    Pope Francis did the same thing .Do you think Pope Benedict XVI will be able to visit any Muslim country with 1% Christians? There are times and places for criticisms. For instance, Pope John Paul attacked USA and brought liberation to Cuba and worked hard with President Reagan and brought down Communism.
    What is Ayatolah Khamenie, the second to Allah on Earth, doing when his own Muslims are suffering in Myanmar? He is busy thinking how to hoodwink the West and make atomic bombs. Perhaps he would have ordered the Houthies to kill Abdullah Saleh, the ex-prime minister of Yemen for 30 years, when he made overtures to peace with Saudi Arabia. So much so for the religion of peace.

  60. Face_The_Truth says:

    THIS MESSAGE IS FOR SCREEN-NAME PASSIVE_OBSERVER_THE_CHRISTIAN:

    ARE YOU TRYING YOUR BEST TO WASTE MY VALUABLE TIME IN REFUTING YOUR POSTS LINE BY LINE???

    I KNOW AND HAVE PROVED IN MY MANY PREVIOUS POSTS ELSEWHERE THAT CHRISTIANS ARE CONGENITAL LIARS ALL OVER THE WORLD.

    IN THIS THREAD OF THE AUTHOR THOMAS JACOB, I TRIED MY BEST TO AVOID BRINGING IN UNRELATED ISSUES.

    SO, YOU PASSIVE_OBSERVER_THE_CHRISTIAN, PLEASE STOP WRITING ANOTHER POST DIRECTING TOWARDS ME.

    I CAN GO LINE BY LINE AND PROVE FROM HISTORICAL RECORDS WHAT BRITISH CHRISTIAN IMPERIALISTS DID TO INDIAN “HINDUS” WHO DID NOT SUCCUMB TO BRITISH CHRISTIAN IMPERIALISM AND WHO DID FIGHT BACK TIME AFTER TIME.

    SO, DO NOT EVER TRY TO WHITEWASH HISTORIC CHRISTIAN CRIMES ON NON-BELIEVERS OF YOUR JESUS CHRIST.

  61. Passive observer says:

    Face-The-Truth
    Are you still in your twenties with boiling blood over the British administration of India? Cool down. For the last 6000 years every country, every nation, every tribe made wars and India is not an exception. Chola and Pallava dynasties of South India captured lands up to Indonesia. The largest Hindu temple is at Angkor Wat, Cambodia. So there is nothing new about that England looted India. The original sin goes to Muslims who invaded many counties from Arabia to Spain. After the 800 year rule of Spain only, as a counter measure, the maritime powers of Europe started colonising other counties including India. To my knowledge British did not kill millions of Indians. The only major incident happened in Punjab where 1500 civilians were shot dead; in other areas there were a few civilian casualties. Thanks to Gandhi’s non-violence movement. It is the Muslims who killed 80 million Hindus during their 800 year rule; and they did not build a single university.
    $100,000,000 a year is nothing when compared to the British education system in India. They built prestigious universities in Bombay Delhi, Calcutta, Allahabad and Madras. When they leave in 1947 there were 21 universities and 496 colleges with science subjects. Nowadays India gains billions of dollars every year because of the initiation of this Education system.
    ”Christians joined with Muslims to divide the sub-continent so that the Hindus would never succeed” is a foolish statement. I never expected this crap from you Face_The_Truth. Before leaving India British allowed the local leaders Jinnah, Gandhi, Nehru, Patel, Ashad and others, to sort out their problem. Reluctantly Gandhi Nehru and their ilk acceded to the demands of Jinnah. Even if Britain sided with the Muslims it was a blessings in disguise. What Muslims can contribute to the development of India? Pakistan and Bangladesh are struggling to exist as nations. 170 million Muslims are already a burden to India with the Kashmir issue. If Pakistanis 190 m, and Bangladeshis 180m are included, there will be 540 m Muslims in India. Can you imagine the problems they would create?
    How about the largest railway system in the world built by the British? Do you think, if not for the British, India would have built such an extensive net-work of railways? The fact is India is unable to maintain what the British have built. How about the tea industry? You may say British did all this for selfish purpose. I agree.

    Above all, the British brought to an end of the Muslim rule in India. You have to thank them all your life; otherwise you would be a Muslim now with four wives and forty children.
    Face_The_Truth, please take care of your spiritual life. You know how the Hindu temples are purified after renovation work. So how can we humans enter into heaven with adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, and outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries and the like without purifying ourselves? There is a cost to be paid. Christians believe that Jesus, the Son of God paid with His own blood at the cross, just as your Saama veda says “Raththa prethoshanam papa vimosanam”

  62. Face_The_Truth says:

    World’s Muslims believe that, before Islam’s founder propagated Islam there was only IGNORANCE in the Arabian Peninsula, because world’s all non-believers did not acknowledge the “fact” that all other faiths, all other beliefs and all other religions are false except Islam.

    Only Islam is true and all others are false and all others must be replaced by Islam all over the world, according to world’s 1.5 billion and rapidly growing faithful Muslims to this day!

    So, I’ve searched for any written or conjectured historical accounts of pre-Islamic Arabian Peninsula for many years and below I quote one of my readings to my readers at FaithFreedom.Org website.

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    Muslim theologians and historians present a pretty dark picture of pre-Islamic Arabia.

    Its people, we are told, were unrepentant Pagans and polytheists unware of the “Unity of God” and the succession of his Prophets.

    They believed — we are told — that Allãh, the one and only True God, stood in need of partners who could mediate between him and his creatures.

    Worse still, they gave daughters to Allãh while they preferred sons for themselves, we are told.

    They worshipped stones (authãn) and statues (aSnãm) and offered sacrifices to Satans, we are told.

    They had had no Prophet (Rasûl) and possessed no scripture (Kitãb) of their own, we are told.

    Consequently, they were ignorant of the Last Day (Qiyãmat), as also of Heaven (Jannat) and Hell (Jahannam).

    They revelled in blood feuds, and buried alive their female infants, we are told.

    Sons married their step-mothers, and the same man two or more uterine sisters, we are told.

    And so on, till the conviction grows on the readers or listeners that the pre-Islamic Arabs were despicable barbarians!

    Christian theologians and Christian historians follow suit.

    Christians do not endorse Muhammad as a prophet; in fact, Christians call him an impostor!

    All the same, Christians prefer him to the Pagans and polytheists whom he fought and subdued.

    Christians do NOT concede that Muhammad’s message was spiritually sound or morally adequate.

    Yet Christians hail his teachings as a marked improvement on the mode of worship and morals which prevailed earlier!

    Thus Christians stand solidly, though negatively, united with their Muslim counterparts in denouncing the state of affairs in pre-Islamic Arabia.

    And there is no dearth of Indian “Hindu” scholars, even “Hindu” saints, who join the Christian chorus.

    Even those “Hindus” who are by no means enamoured of Islam and distrust or despise Islam as a religion, regard Islam none-the-less an immense improvement over what went in Arabia before its advent.

    They say that Islam united the “Arab rabble” into a “nation”, and gave them at least the “rudiments of culture”.

    It never occurs to these “Hindus” that Muslim scholars who denounce pre-Islamic Arabia view pre-Islamic India also as an “area of darkness” to which Islam brought “illumination” for the first time!

    Though Indian “Hindus” have been victims of Islamic aggression for several centuries, few of them feel sympathy for victims of the same aggression elsewhere.

    The pre-Islamic Arabs seem to have no case simply because no one and almost nothing has survived to tell their side of the story.

    Unlike the Indian “Hindus” who have survived the onslaught of Islam and can compare what they had with what was brought in by Islam, the pre-Islamic Arabs have passed into what is more or less a total oblivion.

    The Prophet of Islam and his rightly-guided Caliphs saw to it that NO trace was left of the pre-Islamic religion and culture of Arabia, not even in the consciousness of the converts.

  63. Face_The_Truth says:

    Franz Babinger writes vis-a-vis the pre-Islamic Sabaean civilization of Arabia:

    “The new creed had the greatest interest in obliterating all recollection of the Pagan period, not only in stone monuments which still survived the natural weathering — these were destroyed to provide material for new buildings, or burned for lime or sometimes out of sheer vandalism — but also in literature, and even in consigning the ancient language to oblivion.”

    Whatever could not be wiped out was converted so completely as to look like a contribution of Islam.

    The Ka’ba and the Hajj ceremonies provide excellent examples!

    So does the Arabic language which, although it retains its old sounds and syntax, has been made to convey meanings and concepts which were foreign to it in its pristine state.

    The greatest blow which pre-Islamic Arabia has suffered is the perversion of its history.

    An overwhelming majority of the Arabs had never heard of Abraham before Muhammad started mentioning him; those few who had, had no reason to like him in view of the contempt which his people, the Jews settled in Arabia, had continued to pour on the Arabs.

    Moreover, it was not long before the birth of Muhammad that the King of Yemen who had converted to the creed of Abraham had massacred thousands of Christianised Arabs.

    Therefore, the Arabs who were extremely tolerant in matters of belief could not but have looked askance at the very name of Abraham.

    Yet the Prophet proclaimed that the Arabs were the progeny of Abraham through his elder son, Ismael!

    The Prophet went much farther.

    The Prophet “discovered” that the foremost Arab temple, the Ka’ba at Mecca, had been built by Adam, renovated by his son, Seth, and rebuilt by Abraham!

    The Prophet accused the Arabs of having usurped, for polytheistic worship, a place which was originally meant to be a mosque!

    The Christian and Islamic theologians and historians — who followed — abolished the real forefathers of the Arabs altogether and linked them to lineage of the Jews.

    Small wonder that every comprehensive history of Arabia written by pious Muslim chroniclers starts with Adam and Eve, and fills its spaces with the progeny of Abraham.

    This Islamic version of Arab history would have continued to prevail if modern scholarship had not rescued the true version by means of painstaking research.

    “Our knowledge of the history,” writes Fritz Hommel, “we owe partly to inscriptions found in the country, partly in contemporary literatures and monuments of other nations (Babylonians and Assyrians, Egyptians, Hebrews, Greeks and Romans) and partly also (for the centuries immediately preceding Muhammad) to early Islamic tradition.

    As early as the 3rd millennium B.C. the old Babylonian inscriptions mention a King Manium (also in the fuller form Mannudannu) or Magan of East Arabia; there is much to be said for the view that Magan was only a Sumerian rendering of an Arabic Ma’ãn and that from this centre was founded (at a date unknown to us) the South Arabian kingdom of Ma’ãn (later vocalisation Ma’în) or the Minaean state which perhaps in the beginning embraced the whole of South Arabia.

    In addition a district named Melukh is mentioned as lying further off, probably covering Central and North West Arabia from which as well as from Magan the Sumerians e.g. Gudea of Sirgulla (about 2350 BC) imported a large quantity of products (wood, stone and metals) for their temples.”

    The same sources tell us about the Sabaeans who flourished in Arabia from 800 BC onwards, till they were “swept away by the wave of Muhammadan conquest.”

    They practised “an ancient natural religion” in which “the sun, the moon, and the planets” figured prominently.

    They “believed in the migration of the soul and in great world periods constantly renewed in an everlasting revolutions,” which remind us of the “Hindu” theories of rebirth and the yugas.

    They built “massive temples” and “handsome gold and silver statues of their chief Gods.”

    The Greeks and the Romans knew “Saba and three other South Arabian kingdoms” as the areas which produce frankincense, myrrh, cassia and cinnamon, and praised them “as brave soldiers, industrious tillers of the soil and traders and skilful sailors” who “sent out colonies or at least trading settlements into foreign lands, especially India.”

    Modern archaeology has exposed “sculptures and remains of colonnades, palaces, temples, city walls, towers, public works, especially water-works etc., which confirm the brilliant picture of Sabaean culture”.

    Similar is the story of the Nabataeans who arose in North Arabia or Arabia Petraea about the same time as the Sabaeans in Arabia Flex or South Arabia, and extended their sway upto the frontiers of Hijaz.

    They were ‘never completely subjected either by the Assyrians, or the Medes, Persians or the Mecedonian kings.’

    It was the Romans who conquered for the first time a part of the Nabataean kingdom in the north in AD 106 and named it Provincia Arabia.

    The Nabataeans too were great traders who ‘attained’ the position of monopolists in Near Asia.”

    In their pantheon, which we know “mainly from tombs and votive inscriptions, the principal God was Dushara (Dhu’l-Sharã), the principal goddess Allãt.”

    None of the Minaean or Sabaean or Nabataean inscriptions mentions Abraham or Ismael or any term indicative of the Judeo-Christian belief system which Muhammad will impose on the Arabs in the form of Islam.

    It is only towards the end of the Pagan period that a South Arabian inscription dated AD 542-543 mentions for the first time “the power and grace and mercy of the Merciful (RaHmãnãn) and his Messiah and the Holy Spirit.”

    The inscription was set up by Abraha, the Governor of South Arabia, on behalf of the Christian king of Abyssinia.

    How Abraha became what he became is an interesting story which explains the repugnance felt by the Pagan Arabs for both Judaism and Christianity, as also for the names and terms associated with these creeds.

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  64. A.H. says:

    “You Christians looted ₤100,000,000 every year from Indian subcontinent to your favorite Christian Europe during British rule.”

    You seem to be a highly frustrated “Hindu” (i.e. Pagan), See it in a positive way, as the contribution of the indian subcontinent to advancement of science and technology. Solidarity at a global level.

    You Christians joined with your fellow brethren Muslims to divide Indian subcontinent so that “Hindus” (i.e., Pagans) would never succeed financially, militarily and socially.

    I never heard of an Eastern Civilisation!

    “And, still Sanatana Dharma lives when your Christianity is dying in Europe and America every day”

    So what!

    “Still “Hindus” (i.e., Pagans) are proud for their over 10,000 years old heritage from their forefathers who loved Bharat Varsha”

    That`s fine!

    “Santana Dharma has prevailed in spite of your Christian barbarism, your Christian imperialism, your Christian military skills, and your Christian falsehoods.”

    You probably reside in the West, speaking a Western language, living a Western life-style while worshipping your “Hindu” (i.e. Pagan) religion without any problem.

  65. Face_The_Truth says:

    Do you know what, Passive_Observer?

    You Christians looted ₤100,000,000 every year from Indian subcontinent to your favorite Christian Europe during British rule.

    You Christians murdered millions of “Hindus” (i.e., Pagans).

    You Christians joined with your fellow brethren Muslims to divide Indian subcontinent so that “Hindus” (i.e., Pagans) would never succeed financially, militarily and socially.

    And, still Sanatana Dharma lives when your Christianity is dying in Europe and America every day.

    Still “Hindus” (i.e., Pagans) are proud for their over 10,000 years old heritage from their forefathers who loved Bharat Varsha.

    Santana Dharma has prevailed in spite of your Christian barbarism, your Christian imperialism, your Christian military skills, and your Christian falsehoods.

  66. Passive observer says:

    Face_The-Truth
    “Many are called but few are chosen” (Mathew 22:14). Many read the Bible day and night but only the chosen few understand it.

    There is a proper way to see how Christianity started and spread all over the world. Alexander the Great invaded many parts of Europe and promoted Greek Language and Greek culture. Subsequently Romans too promoted Greek language and culture almost all over Europe. It is to be noted that all 27 books of the NT were written in Greek language and the disciples of Jesus were able to write letters (epistles) in Greek to Romans, Corinthians, Galatians, etc., and able to travel along well built highways (by the Romans) and interact and preach the gospels. Christians faced persecutions not only in Palestine but also in Rome. Emperor Nero burned Christian suburbs, threw some before hungry lions, crucified the first Pope –St. Peter, and beheaded the 13th Apostle St. Paul. However, Christians patiently prayed hard and waited for a miracle. It happened. Emperor Constantine accepted Christianity and destroyed Roman gods like Hercules, Apollo, Victoria, and Dionysius etc. that paved the way for the full conversion of all Europe. These European missionaries went all over world and preached the Gospels.
    Here we see that Jesus confronted the most powerful Roman Empire on earth. A fake Jesus would have gone behind a weaker nation.
    Jesus confronted Saul the fiercest enemy who witnessed the murder of St. Stephen, persecuted Christians and went to Damascus to persecute more. After meeting Jesus Saul became St. Paul, the greatest missionary, the world has ever seen. (Acts Chapter 9). A fake Jesus would have gone behind a gullible person.

    Jesus wants to emphasize to his followers that to enter the Kingdom of God and meet HOLY God face to face, they should be born again –meaning a new life devoid of sinful thoughts, words, and deeds. In order to proclaim this vital message Jesus has chosen Nicodemus! a member of the powerful council ‘Sanhedrin’ through which Romans ruled the Jews in Palestine. In today’s terms Nicodemus could be a Bishop, professor, Supreme Court judge, a Revenue Officer (Collector) all combined and has direct access to Roman Governor Pilate. Since he is a man of TRUTH he humbly comes to Jesus in the night to know Him more. But Jesus told him to his face. “VERY TRULY I TELL YOU, NO ONE CAN ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD UNLESS THEY ARE BORN OF WATER AND THE SPIRIT” (John 3:5).

    If Jesus is fake, he would have told this ‘born again’ message to the Samaritan woman who had five husbands. (Next chapter John 4)

    Since you have the screen name Face_The_Truth, I hope you love to know Jesus who said “I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE”

  67. Face_The_Truth says:

    THIS IS HOW CHRISTIANISM STARTED:

    ‘Genesis and Character of Christianity

    Some historians in the West have serious doubts about the very
    existence of a man called “Jesus Christ”.

    And, almost all historians agree that if he existed at all, nothing
    can be known about his person or teaching because all contemporary
    sources, Christian and non-Christian, are either silent or unreliable
    regarding the subject.

    Thus, all we have is the “Jesus of the Gospels” which are now regarded
    as theological statements rather than a record of historical events.

    And “Jesus of the Gospels” is a questionable character!

    He makes tall claims about himself, and curses all those who do not
    accept those claims.

    He denounces his own people as sons of the Devil and killers of prophets.

    In due course, Christian theology came to proclaim that Jesus was the
    only-begotten son of the only true “God the Father”; that the
    only-begotten son of “God the Father”, namely Jesus, had been sent
    down in order to wash with his own blood the sins of mankind by
    mounting the Cross; that Jesus had risen from the dead on the third
    day and appeared to his apostles in flesh and bones; that Jesus was
    the same as his “God the Father” whose divinity he shared in full;
    that those who accepted Jesus as the only savior had all their sins
    washed by Jesus’s blood; that Jesus had entered his apostles as the
    “Holy Ghost” and entrusted them with the mission of saving all mankind
    from eternal hell-fire; that the Christian Church founded by the
    apostles and joined by the converts was Jesus’s body and bride; and
    that the whole world had been mandated to the Christian Church by the
    “Father” and the “Son” and the “Holy Ghost”.

    What one finds striking about these ridiculous and absolutely
    laughable statements is that none of them can stand the test of human
    reason or experience.

    The Christian Church declares them to be mysteries beyond the reach of
    human understanding!

    The apostles had tried to sell these “mysteries” to the Jews in Jerusalem.

    The only response they met was dismissal with contempt from the Jews.

    Next, the apostles tried these “mysteries” on Jewish communities
    settled in Syria, Asia Minor, and Greece.

    The apostles had some small success, but most of the time met with
    considerable resistance.

    Finally, the apostles took this “merchandise” to the metropolitan mart
    at Rome where their business found some firm footing for the first
    time!

    It was in Rome that the methods of Christian missionary salesmanship
    were matured over a period of time.

    The structure of the Roman Empire provided a model for the structure
    of the Christian Church.

    The Christian missionaries got busy building a state within the state!

    In the next two centuries, the Church became a rich and powerful
    organization with members in many leading families of Rome.

    It found many adherents among politicians who wielded power, among
    military commanders who were superstitious or in need of political
    support, and among merchants who had money, but no brains for
    philosophical questions.

    The mother of Emperor Severus (222-235 AD) became a Christian.

    So did Emperor Philip the Arabian (244-249 AD).

    Helena, the mother of Emperor Constantine, was also a Christian convert.

    Now the Church extended the “Divine Right” to rule as a despot to
    anyone who was prepared to declare Christianity as the sole state
    religion and suppress all Pagan religions.

    Emperor Constantine who wanted to secure a dynastic succession for his
    family — a practice unknown to Roman politics so far — saw his
    opportunity in this new doctrine, and proclaimed in favor of the
    Christian Church.

    The common people in Rome resisted this royal renegade.

    So, Emperor Constantine removed his capital from Rome to Byzantium
    which was renamed “Constantinople”!

    The precedent set by Emperor Constantine in consolidating a dynastic
    despotism with the help of the Church was copied by many crowned heads
    all over Europe in subsequent centuries.

    The king in Pagan societies was only the first among equals.

    The Church enabled him to become an unbridled autocrat who derived his
    authority not from the community over which he ruled, but from “God
    the Father”.

    The conflicts which developed between these autocrats and the powerful
    Christian Church with a Pope at its head, came much later, after the
    common people all over Europe had been enslaved and deprived of their
    traditional institutions which safeguarded their fundamental freedoms.

    For quite some time, the Christian Church cooperated with the kings to
    convert the common people everywhere into hewers of wood and drawers
    of water!

    This was just one part of the Christian history.

    Another part was a large-scale destruction of ancient religions all
    over Europe, Asia Minor, and North Africa where the Church spread its
    tentacles with the help of despotic rulers.

    All Pagan schools were closed, all Pagan temples were demolished or
    converted into Christian churches, and all Pagan images were publicly
    defiled and destroyed.

    Pagan books were burnt and Pagan priests were killed, mostly by
    Christian monks who led Christian mobs after lecturing them into
    fevered frenzy!

    That is how Christianity triumphed over Pagan religions and societies
    — not by the power of its moral or spiritual superiority or the logic
    of its doctrines, but by the power of the sword wielded by despicable
    Christian despots.’

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    THIS IS HOW ISLAM STARTED

    ‘Genesis and Character of Islam:

    Muhammad followed in the footsteps of Jesus in making the same sort of
    claims for himself, cursing his own people in the choicest language of
    “Mono-Theism”, and threatening them with slaughter.

    Muhammad, however, did not have to struggle against a centralized
    state when he found that his “Prophethood” had no attraction for the
    Pagan people of Mecca.

    Muhammad migrated to Yathrib — was later renamed “Medina” from Madinat
    al’Nabi — which was more receptive to “Mono-Theism” because of a large
    presence of Jews in that town (i.e., Yathrib), and Muhammad emerged as
    a powerful potentate.

    Muhammad, however, ended by exiling or brutally killing en masse the
    Jewish “Mono-Theist” populations of Yathrib which resisted him as soon
    as Muhammad came out in his true colors!

    Meanwhile, Muhammad had amassed much wealth by plundering merchant
    caravans and scattered Pagan Arab settlements.

    Muhammad created the nucleus of a standing army out of the toughs and
    desperados who flocked to him in increasing numbers for committing
    crimes and sharing the loot.

    In short, Muhammad built the apparatus of a military state in “Medina”
    and used it for imposing his closed creed on the tribal settlements of
    Pagan Arabia by means of armed force.

    The doctrines of Islam were tailored to the needs of this galloping
    tyranny, and sold with the help of the sword.

    And the sword was stamped with the name of a fictitious one and only
    almighty “Allah” (i.e., Jehovah) in whose service the ancient religion
    and culture of Arabia were destroyed root and branch.’

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    William Benjamin Smith, “Ecce Deus: Studies of Primitive Christianity”, London, 1912

    l. Gordon Rylands, “Did Jesus Ever Live?”, Watts & Co., London, 1929

    William James Durant, “The Story of Civilization, Part III, Caesar and Christ”, Fourth Printing, New York, 1944

    Morton Smith, “Clement of Alexandria and a Secret Gospel of Mark”, English, Greek and Latin Edition, Harvard University Press, 1973

    Paul Johnson, “A History of Christianity”, Penguin Books, London, 1978

    Michael Thomas Walter Arnheim, “Is Christianity True?”, London, 1984

    George Albert Wells, “Did Jesus Exist?”, Second Edition, London, 1986

    Koenraad Elst, “Psychology of Prophetism: A Secular Look at the Bible”, New Delhi, 1993

    Daniel Edwin Barker, “Losing Faith in Faith: From Preacher to Atheist”, Fourth Printing, Freedom From Religion Foundation, Inc., USA, 2003

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  68. Passive observer says:

    Face_The_Truth
    Just as a coin has two sides, every issue has two sides. Michael Moore, an American, has claimed that 9/11 attack was an inside job. He doesn’t belong to the TRUTH. If he is, he would have raised the question “How can the establishment can kill its 3000 citizens when President Nixon was asked to resign for telling a single lie in the Water Gate affair? Or President Bill Clinton was asked to resign by the Congress for a minor sex affair.
    Communism like an infectious disease that spreads to more than 150 countries and billions believed in it. Now it has crumbled. Lenin, Stalin and Mao are no more the pillars of society, for they do not belong to the TRUTH
    1500 million Muslims believed that Jesus was not crucified and Islam is the religion of Peace. That too is crumbling. Islam does not belong to the TRUTH.
    Thanks for your link, it clearly proves that Mathew, Mark, Luke and John did not sit together around a table and cook up a story of Jesus, copying the stories of other gods, like Adonis, Zeus, Osiris, Mithras etc.
    Bible scholars are correct that the four evangelists used OT to prove Jesus is the Messiah. Anything wrong? Just as quoting the Hindu scripture Saama Veda “raththa prathoshanam paapa vimoshanam”. It means without shedding blood, (just as Christ did), there is no atonement for sin. While everyone was running behind various gods up to Himalaya only the Son of God came in search of sinners and paid a big price to redeem them that even a novelist cannot imagine.
    Trevor Burris is one of the millions who have criticized Jesus, gospels, Christianity and Bible. It appears he doesn’t have deeper understanding of the background of the gospel writers. For instance John, perhaps the youngest of the twelve, has intimate relationship with Jesus. In the picture of last supper you can see he leans towards Jesus’ shoulder. Before His last breath Jesus hands over His Mother Mary to John. In such a close relationship John’s gospel, written, last in the AD 90s, is much different and more ‘personal’ from that of other three. He says emphatically “THE WORD BECAME FLESH AND MADE HIS DWELLING AMONG US. WE HAVE SEEN HIS GLORY. (John 1:14)
    Even If Jesus did not exist, or the gospels are cock and bull stories, Jesus’ words, as He is called WORD OF GOD, transform millions of people, which you cannot deny. Nelson Mandela, though he was imprisoned for 27 years, was able to forgive Botha Government and he exhorted the black majority to forgive the minority white racists.
    We owe so much to Miss Nightingale, for initiating the nursing industry by removing the clothes of soldiers and applied medicine 150 years ago, and also to the Red Cross workers who amidst bombing and fighting take care of the injured and millions of refugees.
    Today for the love of Jesus millions of NGOs and 700,000 nuns are working round the clock to make the world a better place to live in. 85% of all good works are done by the so called Christians.
    When Mahatma Gandhi was asked, he replied “Even if Jesus did not exist I will venerate Him for His words. Yes Mahatma Gandhi belongs to the TRUTH.

    ‘THE REASON I WAS BORN AND CAME INTO THE WORLD IS TO TESTIFY TO THE TRUTH. EVERYONE ON THE SIDE OF TRUTH LISTENS TO ME” (John 18:37)

  69. Face_The_Truth says:

    THE FOLLOWING QUOTATION IS FOR SCREEN-NAME Passive_Observer.

    ‘Christian Gospel writers’ failure to retroactively fulfill Jewish prophecy:

    It is clear that the writers of the Christian Gospels tried to tie their narrative of Jesus the Nazarene Jew to some of the Jewish prophecies of the Old Testament.

    Most believing Christians accept that the Jewish prophecies were genuinely historically fulfilled, but there is compelling evidence that this is NOT so.

    This is best summed up by Trevor Burris: (http://trevorburrus.newsvine.com/_news/2008/03/05/1345329-10-reasons-why-christianity-is-wrong).

    The Christian evangelists poured through the Old Testament and found “prophecies” that predicted Jesus’s life.

    After all, there had to be grander reasons why their great teacher had been executed like a common criminal.

    In the pages of Jewish scripture Christian evangelists found those reasons!

    The writers of the Christian Gospels then consciously wrote their Gospels in order to retroactively fulfill Jewish prophecy.

    That this happens at all is beyond dispute.

    Sometimes, while stumbling over themselves to “fulfill” Jewish prophecy, the writers of the Christian Gospels get it horribly wrong:

    Mark (1:1-3), using shoddy sources, begins his Gospel with “prophecy” that mistakenly conflates two Old Testament versus; Isaiah 40:3 and Malachi 3:1. Matthew (1:20-23) uses a mistranslated Old Testament, in which the Hebrew almah, (meaning “young woman”) was changed to the Greek parthenos (meaning a physical virgin), as a justification for the immaculate conception.

    Matthew (21:1-7) so wants to fulfill a “prophecy” from another shoddy source that has combined Isaiah 62:11 and Zachariah 9:9, that he misinterprets the passage — which only speaks of one animal (with subsequent qualifiers) — and has Jesus ride into Jerusalem, in some bizarre act of balance, on two animals. (The other Gospel writers are quick to correct this grievous error.)

    Thus, we begin to see that not only is it a manifest absurdity to believe the Gospels are history, it becomes tenuous to believe they are even accurate!

    Biblical scholars have established that the writers of the Christian Gospels felt compelled to connect the story of Jesus to the messianic Jewish prophecies of the Old Testament in an effort to convince potential followers that Jesus was the promised Jewish messiah.

    We now have enough evidence to conclude that the prophecies were “fulfilled” only on papyri.’

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    http://www.kyroot.com/

  70. Passive observer says:

    Christians do not believe Mohammad as the last and final prophet. About forty prophets from Abraham to John the Baptist were sent to prepare the chosen Jewish people, for the coming of the hero of the Bible Jesus Christ. There are more than 300 prophesies about Jesus in the Old Testament. It took about 1600-2000 years to prepare the Jewish people. It appears that God determined to bring His son from a people where there is no practice of polygamy or worshipping of stones and statues. God repeatedly punished the idol worshippers. Though monogamy was instituted when God said to Adam and Eve “FOR THIS CAUSE A MAN SHALL LEAVE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER AND CLEAVE TO HIS WIFE AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH” (Genesis 2:24), King David, Solomon and others had many wives.
    For the Christians the last prophet was John the Baptist, who was specially sent to give baptism to Jesus. John who shouted “PREPARE THE WAY FOR THE LORD’S COMING! CLEAR AND MAKE PATH STAIGHT FOR HIM (Mark 1:3). “When the fullness of time had come God sent forth His son”(Galatians 4:4-7)
    After the Son of God has come to the world there was no necessity to send any prophet or messenger. Jesus cautioned everyone about the false prophets “YOU WILL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS (Mathew 7:15-20)

  71. Face_The_Truth says:

    I thank Thomas Jacob for writing historical truth here.

    The author — Thomas Jacob — has left out a few other historical aspects, which I prefer to post here for my readers.

    Islam’s founder Muhammad was born a very long time after his supposed biological father — Abd’Allah ibn Abd al’Muttalib — actually died.

    That means, there is both historical possibility as well as historical probability for Islam’s founder Muhammad being born out of rape of his Pagan biological mother named Amina by an Arab Bedouin and, consequently, soon after birth Muhammad was actually sent to reside with a Bedouin family in the desert of Arabian Peninsula.

    Arabic word “Muhammad” means “Praiseworthy”.

    Typically, a son follows his biological father’s religion in 99% of our known cases and, within that 99% range, there are many instances as well where a son rejects his biological father’s religion.

    However, based on my studies of Islam’s founder Muhammad the Arabian Bastard, I will not rule out the possibility or probability of his biological mother Amina being raped by a Jew (i.e., a Jewish barbarian).

    Because, in ancient history of the Jews (i.e., people of Judea), Jews were extremely promiscuous people as my readers might conspicuously notice one of the 10 Jewish commandments was “Thou shall not commit adultery!” (i.e., do not f*ck).

    According to my most admired psychiatrists Dr. Sigmund Schlomo Freud, stealing and adultery (or fornication) are primitive urges within humans, because psycho-pathologically humans manifest either one of two primitive urges!

    We also observe within the 10 Jewish commandments, another command is “Thou shall not steal” (i.e., do no deprive the owner of his rightful ownership of anything).

    So, we can again conceptualize that, sexual promiscuity and kleptomania both were widely common amongst barbarian Jews of Middle East, who rejected polytheism for a fictitious one and only God named “Jehovah”.

    My readers might notice that, fictitious “Jehovah” — whom world’s Christians consider “God the Father” — did not tell the Jewish people to stop polygamy and human slavery as well as widespread female sex-slavery.

    Islam’s founder Muhammad’s extreme admiration for Jewish “Mono-Theism” led him to go to war against all Pagan Arabs.

    So, I will not be surprised at all if a Jewish man’s blood was actually flowing in Islam’s founder Muhammad’s veins and arteries — for his biological mother Amina actually being raped by a Jewish barbarian, not by an Arab Bedouin!

    Furthermore, Islam’s founder Muhammad did not find any appreciation for his so-called “Mono-Theism” in Mecca — which was the mostly inhabited by Pagans.

    So, Islam’s founder Muhammad migrated to Yathrib (later re-named as “Medina”) where vast numbers of Jews used to reside.

    Islam’s founder Muhammad adopted as well as assimilated Jewish customs and Jewish cultures in Yathrib (i.e., Medina) and later claimed to be the final prophet in the succession of Abraham to Ishmael to Moses to Daniel to Elijah to Elisha to Joshua to countless other so-called Jewish prophets who worshipped so-called one and only fictitious creator of the universe!

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