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  1. Face_The_Truth says:

    ‘FICTITIOUS CHRISTIAN “GOD THE FATHER” SUPPORTS SEX SLAVERY, ARRANGED MARRIAGES, AND POLYGAMY

    Christians often claim that, if we just return to the morality of the Christian Bible, all will be well.

    This is preposterous!!!

    Just one example is needed to show the folly of such a claim. Consider Exodus 21:7-11:

    “If a man sells his daughter as a slave, she SHALL NOT be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she DOES NOT please the man who bought her, then he shall let her be bought back again; but the man HAS NO POWER to sell her to foreigners, since the man has wronged her by no longer wanting her after marrying her. And if the man arranges an engagement between a Hebrew slave-girl and his son, then the man may NO LONGER treat her as a slave-girl, but must treat her as a ‘daughter’. If the man himself marries her AND THEN TAKES ANOTHER WIFE, the man MAY NOT reduce her food or clothing, or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If the man fails in any of these three things, then she may leave freely without any payment.”

    Here in the “Holy” Christian book allegedly inspired by Christian “God the Father”, we see that Christian “God the Father” supports the idea that women are the property of men, that a man can sell his daughter into sex-slavery, that the buyer can arrange a marriage for her, and that the man can take on additional wives!!!

    What do world’s faithful Christians say about this?

    Usually that, the Old Testament doesn’t count.

    If that’s the case, then world’s faithful Christians should remove the Old Testament from their Bibles.

    But even given that, Christians should not be allowed to get away with this charade — the God of the Old Testament is the same “God the Father” that world’s faithful Christians worship.

    Christians are fond of saying that morality and what is right or wrong doesn’t change because “God the Father” doesn’t change.

    World’s faithful Christians broadcast the idea that, morality DOES NOT change over time and therefore claim, for example, that homosexuality cannot ever be accepted because it is clearly considered an abomination in the “Holy” Christian Bible.

    Given that, then we should still be able to sell our daughters into sex-slavery because Christian “God the Father” doesn’t change, and it is STILL IN THE “HOLY” CHRISTIAN BIBLE.’

  2. Face_The_Truth says:

    ‘CHRISTIAN MORALITY

    The founder of Jainism, Mahavira — who lived six centuries before Jesus was born — produced a moral code in one sentence that outshines anything written in the Jewish-Christian Bible.

    The following is a quote from Sam Harris’ book “Letter to a Christian Nation,” p. 23:

    Mahavira, the Jain patriarch, surpassed the morality of the Christian Bible with a just single sentence:

    “DO NOT injure, abuse, oppress, enslave, insult, torment, torture, or kill any creature or living being.”

    Imagine how different our world would have been if the Jewish-Christian Bible contained this as its central precept.

    It should be obvious that morality DID NOT originate with Judeo-Christian-Islam, but rather that morality deteriorated with the spread of Judeo-Christian-Islamic religion.

    Under the supposed authority of their faith, Christians violated every one of Mahavira’s precepts and justified it all by reference to their “holy” scriptures.’

  3. Face_The_Truth says:

    ‘THE LIES OF CHRISTIANITY

    Christians have been telling lies for centuries, lying to themselves and to others in a desperate attempt to maintain a tenuous hold on their faith.

    Here are some examples:

    — The Bible has NO contradictions.

    — The Bible treats women as equals.

    — Atheists have no morals, feelings, or emotions; because, human ethics and morality as well as the rule of laws that we see today are solely due to Christianity.

    — Biological evolution is false and cannot be true.

    — The United States of America is a country founded on Christianity.

    — The Bible is the ultimate source of morality, because without Bible there are immoral behaviors all around us.

    — Prayer works.

    — Life has no meaning without religion.

    — Homosexuality is a choice.

    — The Bible treats marriage solely between one man and ONLY ONE WOMAN.

    — The Bible does NOT support slavery; because, human-slavery originated from “Paganism”.

    — A fertilized egg is a person!

    — Christianity is a peaceful, loving religion; because, before the advent of Christianity there were too many wars.

    — Christians give more to the poor than the atheists do.

    — The Earth is 10,000 years old.

    — Christianity is under attack all over the world.

    What should be noted here is that a true, factual religion would have NO need to tell any lies, because truth and reality would always be supportive of its doctrine.

    On the other hand, a man-made false religion such as Christianity would need constantly to tell a litany of untruths as well as outright bold-faced lies in order to keep its followers from doubting their faith.

    And so it is.’

  4. Face_The_Truth says:

    “Phil says: The ONLY reason our society has ethics and morals as developed in the west is due to the message of Jesus and the reformers. Check history and the truth for yourself.”

    ‘CHRISTIAN CHURCH & CHILD ABUSE SCANDALS

    Like a slowly developing train wreck, the child abuse scandal of the Christian Church has been unfolding over the past several decades. Hundreds if not thousands of children have been subjected to sexual abuse at the hands of Christian priests.

    It is likely that the recent revelations are simply a product of a more open society and that similar abuses have been ongoing to some degree for the entire 2000-year history of the Christian church.

    It is undeniable that the Popes, Cardinals, and other church authorities undertook a concerted effort to COVER UP the scandal, taking far too few punitive actions, while simply moving troublesome priests to other churches where they could find new targets for their addiction for naked boys!

    Why would Christian “God the Father” have allowed this to happen?

    If Christian God the Father has the perceptive and potency capabilities as assumed by most Christians, it would seem that Christian God the Father would have intervened to stop the damaging abuse to the children as well as the embarrassing devastation to the Christian Church’s reputation.

    Wouldn’t Christian God the Father have communicated somehow with the church authorities in whatever manner possible to prod them into taking the correct and humane actions necessary to bring this abomination to an end?

    The fact that this DIDN’T HAPPEN suggests that the type of “God the Father” assumed by most Christians is NOT real.’

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    William Benjamin Smith, “Ecce Deus: Studies of Primitive Christianity”, London, England, 1912

    William James Durant & Ariel Kaufman Durant, “The Story of Civilization (Volumes I to XI)”, Simon & Schuster, Inc., New York, USA, 1935

    Louis Gordon Rylands, “Did Jesus Ever Live?”, Watts & Co., London, England, Second Edition, 1936

    Ramesh Chandra Majumder, “The History and Culture of the Indian People (Volumes I to XI)”, Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan Educational Trust, Mumbai, India, 1951

    Damodar P. Singhal, “India and World Civilization”, University of Michigan Press, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA, 1969

    Morton Smith, “Clement of Alexandria and a Secret Gospel of Mark”,
    English, Greek and Latin Edition, Harvard University Press, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA, 1973

    John Van Seters, “Abraham in History and Tradition”, Yale University Press, New Haven, Connecticut, USA, 1975

    Paul Johnson, “A History of Christianity”, Penguin Books, London, England, 1978

    Michael Thomas Walter Arnheim, “Is Christianity True?”, London, England, 1984

    George Albert Wells, “Did Jesus Exist?”, London, England, Second Edition, 1986

    Pierre Chuvin, “A Chronicle of the Last Pagans (Revealing Antiquity)”, Harvard University Press, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA, 1990

    Ram Gopal Misra, “Indian Resistance to Early Muslim Invaders Up To 1206 A.D.”, Anu Books, Meerut City, India, Reprint 1992

    Koenraad Elst, “Psychology of Prophetism: A Secular Look at the Bible”, New Delhi, India, 1993

    Ishwar Sharan, “The Myth of Saint Thomas and the Mylapore Shiva Temple”, South Asia Books, Columbia, Missouri, USA, Revised Edition, 1995

    Charles Bradley Templeton, “Farewell to God: My Reasons for Rejecting the Christian Faith”, McClelland & Stewart, Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada, 1996

    Earl J. Doherty, “The Jesus Puzzle: Did Christianity Begin with a Mythical Christ?”, Canadian Humanist Publications, Ottawa, Canada, 1999

    Carl Jacob Christoph Burckhardt, “Judgments on History and Historians”, Liberty Fund, Inc., Indianapolis, Indiana, USA, Second Edition, 1999

    Daniel Edwin Barker, “Losing Faith in Faith: From Preacher to Atheist”, Fourth Printing, Freedom From Religion Foundation, Inc., Madison, Wisconsin, USA, 2003

    Pranati Ghosal, “Lifestyle of the Vedic People (Reconstructing Indian History and Culture), D.K. Printworld Pvt. Ltd., New Delhi, India, 2005

    Robert Louis Wilken, “The Myth of Christian Beginnings”, Wipf & Stock Publishers, Oregon, USA, Reprint 2009

    Sita Ram Goel, “History of Hindu-Christian Encounters (AD 304 to 1996)”, New Delhi, India, Second Edition, 2010

    Edward Gibbon, “The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire (Volumes I to VI)”, Everyman’s Library, New York, USA, Reprint 2010

    Thomas L. Thompson, “The Historicity of the Patriarchal Narratives: The Quest for the Historical Abraham”, Walter de Gruyter GmbH, Berlin, Germany, Reprint 2016

    Kishori Saran Lal, “Muslim Slave System in Medieval India”, South Asia Books, Columbia, Missouri, USA, Reprint 2016

    James Joseph O’Donnell, “Pagans: The End of Traditional Religion and the Rise of Christianity”, Ecco Press, New York, USA, Reprint 2016

    Michael Shermer, “Heavens on Earth: The Scientific Search for the Afterlife, Immortality, and Utopia”, Henry Holt and Co., New York, USA, 2018

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  5. Anonymous says:

    Dear Phil

    The Bible also advocates slavery, rape, slaughter of innocent, stoning, looting, hatred, intolerance etc… Please read the Bible, it’s all there. The Quran is evil, and the Bible is ugly.

  6. phil says:

    The ONLY reason our society has ethics and morals as developed in the west is due to the message of Jesus and the reformers. Check history and the truth for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9owpRbxrCg0
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4sjG7cqix0&t=63s
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGS9ZYryQclqBVDBfzE79AA

  7. Face_The_Truth says:

    SLAVERY — A DIVINELY ORDAINED INSTITUTION

    The Bible condones slavery.

    Some Christians today claim that the Bible actually refers to servants, who were presumably working voluntarily for wages!

    The following scriptures demonstrate otherwise:

    Exodus 21:20

    “If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.”

    Leviticus 25:44-46:

    “You may purchase male slave or female sex-slaves from among the foreigners who live among you.

    You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land.

    You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance.

    You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.”

    Ephesians 6:5-8:

    “Slaves, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Jesus Christ; not by way of eye service, as men-pleasers, but as slaves of Jesus Christ, doing the will of God the Father from the heart.

    With good will render service, as to the Lord, and not to men, knowing that whatever good thing each one does, this he will receive back from the Lord, whether slave or free.”

    Either the persons who wrote these scriptures were not inspired by God, or God is not good and should not be worshipped.

    If the former is true, it still must be noted that God did not intervene to remove these verses from the Christian Bible.

    A real God would have known that slavery is morally wrong and that it would eventually be outlawed through most of the world; for this reason, God would have prohibited slavery to be practiced by his chosen people.

    The Christian Bible’s indifference to and tacit support of slavery indicates that it is not the work of a supernatural being, but rather the work of men writing in accord with the customs of their time.

    This point is best summed up by a quote from Jefferson Davis, the president of the Christian Confederacy during the American Civil War:

    Slavery was established by decree of almighty Christian God…it is sanctioned in the Christian Bible, in both Testaments, from Genesis to Revelation…it has existed in all ages, has been found among the people of the highest civilization, and in nations of the highest proficiency in the arts…Let the gentleman go to Revelation to learn the decree of Christian God — let him go to the Bible…I said that slavery was sanctioned in the Christian Bible, authorized, regulated, and recognized from Genesis to Revelation…Slavery existed then in the earliest ages, and among the chosen people of Christian God; and in Revelation we are told that it shall exist till the end of time shall come. You find it in the Old and New Testaments — in the prophecies, psalms, and the epistles of Paul; you find slavery recognized, sanctioned everywhere.”

    It is next to certain that if a real God intervened in human affairs, the real or true God would immediately prohibit the practice of slavery.

    The Christian God failed to do this and, therefore, Christian God is extremely likely to be false and mythical.

    Christians and Muslims were always together when it came to human-slavery!

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5722355/Vanessa-Trump-nearly-married-Saudi-Prince-following-failed-romance-Latin-Kings-gangster.html

  8. Tom Cheria says:

    “In short, slavery became a divinely ordained Christian institution.” — HELL NO

    It was Christian West that banned slavery first in the world.

    It was Christians(North) who fought against Christians(South) to defeat slavery. There has been no civilization in the world who fought against there own people against slavery.

  9. Face_The_Truth says:

    “Hitherto, slavery had been a creation of the crude in human nature the urge to dominate over others, to make use of others for private comfort and profit.

    Now it was ordained that the God the Father of the Christians had bestowed the whole Earth and all its wealth on the believers, that the infidels had no natural or human rights, and that the Christian believers could do to the infidels whatever they chose — kill them, plunder them, reduce them to the status of slaves or non-citizens.

    In short, slavery became a divinely ordained Christian institution.

    With the advent of Islam, slavery became inalienable with religion and culture and was accorded a permanent place in society.

    It goes to the credit of Islam to create slave trade on a large scale, and run it for profit like any other business.

    Islam’s Prophet Muhammad had not only accepted the prevailing Arab practice of making slaves, but also set a precedent when he sold some Jewish women and children of Medina in exchange for horses and arms!

    War was prescribed on religious grounds, and became an integral part of Islam.

    The Quran expressly permitted the Muslims to acquire slaves through conquest.”

    Kishori Saran Lal, “Muslim Slave System in Medieval India”, South Asia Books, Columbia, Missouri, USA, Reprint 2016

  10. Tom Cheria says:

    “And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain.” (Deuteronomy 2:34 KJV)

    Deutronomy is not written by JESUS.. NANANANA Dancing Dancing Dancing.

    John W. Loftus, at his website “Why I Am Not a Christian” — I urge upon John W Loftus to go the nearest ADL’s office and condemn why is written in OLD testament. It seems like that guy is an anti-semite and cannot stand Jewish history and customs.

    World’s Christians DO NOT teach biological evolutionary darwinism because according to darwinsim there is no SIN and if someone got killed it is because they were not fittest to propogate their DNA. Darwinism condones holocaust.

    Christians teach intelligent creation. A level 6 or 7 civilization could have as well created the universe. Who knows if Absolute Goodness is from Level 6 or Level 7 civilization?

  11. Face_The_Truth says:

    ‘THE CHRISTIAN WORLD VERSUS THE REAL WORLD

    The Christian Bible speaks of a world that you can only experience by reading its books.

    Look for it not in your neighborhood, your city, your state, your country, or anywhere on planet Earth — it is a world gone with the wind, or much more likely, a world that never really existed.

    The following quote is taken from John W. Loftus, at his website “Why I Am Not a Christian”:

    “The Christian Bible is filled with superstitious beliefs that modern people rightly reject.

    It describes a world where a snake and a donkey communicated with human beings in a human language, where people could reach upward of 900 years old, where a woman instantaneously transformed into a pillar of salt, where a pillar of fire could lead people by night, and where the sun stopped moving across the sky or could even back up.

    In this imaginary world an ax head could float on water, a star could point down to a specific home, people could instantly speak in unlearned foreign languages, and one’s shadow or handkerchief could heal people.

    It is a world where a flood can cover the whole earth, and a man can walk on water, calm a stormy sea, change water into wine, or be swallowed by a “great fish” and live to tell about it.

    This world is populated by demons that can wreak havoc on Earth and make people very sick.

    It is a world of idol-worship, where human and animal sacrifices please Christian God.

    Visions, inspired dreams, prophetic utterances, miracle workers, magicians, diviners, and sorcerers also populate this world.

    It is a world where Christian God lived in the sky (Heaven), and the dead “lived” on in the dark recesses of the Earth (Sheol).

    This is a strange world when compared to our world, but Christians believe that this world was real in the past.

    My contention is not that ancient people were stupid, but that they were very superstitious.”

    The Christian world is also one that was created in 6 days with Earth at its center, a world where Neanderthals, Homo erectus, and Homo habilis have no place in history, where dead people rose out of their graves, walked about the city and conversed with the living, a place where demons could enter pigs and cause them to run off a cliff and drown themselves, where two bears can maul and kill 42 children, a place where a woman can conceive and deliver while remaining a virgin, where the act of sending dead people to a place of eternal torture can be seen as a just punishment for living an ordinary human life, a place where angels interact with the local citizenry and make important proclamations, where slavery is held up as an honorable ‘enterprise,’ where women are a form of property, and where rebellious children, adulterers, and homosexuals are considered so evil that they deserve to be stoned to death.

    And finally it is a world where Christian God feels that he must kill his own son because he can find no other way to forgive people of their sins!

    Yes, this seems like a very strange world to anyone alive today.

    It should take only a few moments of reflection to understand, to grasp, to figure this whole thing out, that the God of Christianity is to adults as Santa Claus is to children — an imaginary friend.

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  12. Face_The_Truth says:

    World’s Christians and Muslims and Jews and Mormons believe that, our Earth as well as the entire universe was created within 6 days, because the fictitious “God the Father” or fictitious “Allah” or fictitious “Jehovah” took one day for resting purpose(s) since the fictitious almighty got VERY tired after creating a physically and materially imperfect Earth!

    World’s Christians and Muslims DO NOT teach biological evolutionary process(es) to their kids, because world’s Christians and Muslims DO NOT want to offend the fictitious “God the Father” or fictitious “Allah”.

    World’s Christians and Muslims NOW tell us (i.e., non-believers) that, science, scientific discoveries, and scientific thought-process(es) came directly from Christian New Testament and Islamic al’Quran.

    ‘WHY DID THE DINOSAURS GO EXTINCT?

    Dinosaurs ruled and dominated Earth around 66 million years ago, before they suddenly went extinct.

    The Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction event is the name given to this mass extinction.

    It was believed for many years that the changing climate destroyed the food chain of the huge reptiles.

    In the 1980’s, archaeologists discovered a layer of iridium.

    This is an element that is rare on Earth, but is found in vast quantities in space.

    When this was dated, it coincided precisely with when the dinosaurs disappeared from the fossil record.

    A decade later, scientists uncovered the massive Chicxulub Crater at the tip of Mexico’s Yucatán Peninsula, which dates to the period in question.

    Scientific consensus now says that these two factors are linked and they were both probably caused by an enormous asteroid crashing to Earth.

    With the projected size and impact velocity, the collision would have caused an enormous shock-wave and likely triggered seismic activities.

    The fallout would have created plumes of ash that likely covered all of the planet and made it impossible for dinosaurs to survive!

    Other animals and plant species had a shorter time-span between generations, which allowed them to survive.

    There are several other theories as to what caused the demise of the famous animals.

    One early theory was that small mammals ate dinosaur-eggs and another proposes that toxic angiosperms (flowering plants) killed them off.’

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    http://ideonexus.com/2012/02/12/101-reasons-why-evolution-is-true/

  13. Face_The_Truth says:

    ‘RAISING OF LAZARUS AND WOMAN SAVED AFTER CAUGHT IN ADULTERY

    The stories of the raising of Lazarus from the dead and the woman saved after caught in adultery are extremely important in the effort to define who Jesus was.

    One tells of his immense power, and the other tells of his divine wisdom!

    Both would have been told and re-told throughout the region, spread virally, and held up as convincing evidence for having faith in Jesus.

    However, CURIOUSLY, neither of these events is documented in the first three Gospels (Mark, Matthew, and Luke).

    Not until the Gospel of John — written at least 70 years after the death of Jesus — is the raising of Lazarus documented in scripture.

    And the story of the woman caught in adultery is NOT found in the oldest manuscripts of the Gospel of John, and only appears in manuscripts beginning in the fifth century A.D.

    This casts considerable doubt on the historical truth of these FICTITIOUS events.’

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  14. Face_The_Truth says:

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    ‘EARLY CHRISTIANS WERE UNEDUCATED AND SUPERSTITIOUS

    No matter what Christianity has evolved into after 2000 years, it is instructive and illuminating to consider the types of people who became its first followers.

    This gives a clue as to the degree of credibility it possessed at a time when the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of the chronological contemporaries of Jesus were still alive — that is, while the original history of the church was still fresh in peoples’ minds.

    It would be similar as looking today at the history of World War II through the lens of what people had heard from their deceased ancestors.

    Unfortunately for Christianity, the early followers of the faith were almost exclusively from the lower classes, mostly uneducated, unskilled, and illiterate.

    The following excerpt is taken from:

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    The character of the early Christians would probably be most surprising to modern lay Christians.

    The bulk of the early converts were from the lower classes in the cities.

    As the great historian Edward Gibbon (1737-1794) summarized in “The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” (1788):

    “the new sect of the Christians was almost entirely composed of the dregs of the populace, of peasants and mechanists, of boys and women, of beggars and slaves, the last of whom might sometimes introduce the missionaries into the rich and noble families to whom they belonged. These obscure teachers … are as mute in public as they are loquacious and dogmatical in private. Whilst they cautiously avoid the dangerous encounter of philosophers, they mingle with the rude and illiterate crowd, and insinuate themselves into these minds whom their age, their sex, or their best education had the best disposed to receive the impression of superstitious errors.”

    …. for now it is enough to note that by and large the early Christians were mainly illiterate, uncultured and incapable of critical thinking. Hence Christianity competed for these people, not with the Roman thinkers, but with the mystery religions. Both Christianity and the mystery religions have irrational elements which were of much appeal to such a group of people. The skeptic J.M. Robertson (1856-1933) summarizes their character such:

    “Taken individually … an average Christians of the second century was likely to be unlettered townsman of the “lower middle” or poorer classes; either bitterly averse to “idols”, theaters, the circus, and the public baths, or persuaded that he ought to be; utterly credulous as to demons and miracles; incapable of criticism as to sacred books; readily emotional towards the crucified God and the sacred mystery in which were given the “body and blood”; devoid alike of aesthetic and of philosophic faculty; much given to his ritual; capable of fanatical hatred.”

    It is also important to note that the great thinkers of the time rejected Christianity out of hand.

    From the same website:

    It is therefore not surprising that the greatest thinkers of that age, philosophers such as Seneca (c5BC-AD65), Epictetus (c1st cent) and Marcus Aurelius (c121-180); statesmen such as Pliny the Elder (AD23-79), his adopted son Pliny the Younger (c62-114) ; historians such as Plutarch (c46-120) and Tacitus (c55-c117) and prominent physicians such as Galen (c2nd cent); who through their work and contemplation had “purified their mind from the prejudices of popular superstition”, either rejected outright or did not consider the nascent religion of Christianity.

    The fallacies and deceptions surrounding Christianity were plainly evident in the first hundred years of its existence, allowing the learned class to summarily dismiss it as a fraudulent enterprise!

    It was only after a few centuries passed, followed by the adoption of Christianity as the Roman state religion, that it began to attract members of the landed and ruling class.

    However, even then it was often more for political purposes than an expression of genuine faith.

    The recent history of Christianity, exhibited by the decline in the mainstream liberal churches and the rise of the conservative fundamentalist Pentecostal ones is, in effect, a return to early Christianity.

    Currently, most of the truly exuberant followers of the Christian faith are poorly educated, scientifically illiterate people with poor critical thinking skills.

    Thus, if this trend continues, Christianity may well end up in a few centuries being perceived in a similar way as it was 2000 years ago.’

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    William Benjamin Smith, “Ecce Deus: Studies of Primitive Christianity”, London, England, 1912

    Louis Gordon Rylands, “Did Jesus Ever Live?”, Watts & Co., London, England, Second Edition, 1936

    William James Durant, “The Story of Civilization, Part III, Caesar and Christ”, Fourth Printing, New York, USA, 1944

    Morton Smith, “Clement of Alexandria and a Secret Gospel of Mark”,
    English, Greek and Latin Edition, Harvard University Press, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA, 1973

    John Van Seters, “Abraham in History and Tradition”, Yale University Press, New Haven, Connecticut, USA, 1975

    Paul Johnson, “A History of Christianity”, Penguin Books, London, England, 1978

    Michael Thomas Walter Arnheim, “Is Christianity True?”, London, England, 1984

    George Albert Wells, “Did Jesus Exist?”, London, England, Second Edition, 1986

    Ram Gopal Misra, “Indian Resistance to Early Muslim Invaders Up To 1206 A.D.”, Anu Books, Meerut City, India, Reprint 1992

    Koenraad Elst, “Psychology of Prophetism: A Secular Look at the Bible”, New Delhi, India, 1993

    Charles Bradley Templeton, “Farewell to God: My Reasons for Rejecting the Christian Faith”, McClelland & Stewart, Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada, 1996

    Earl J. Doherty, “The Jesus Puzzle: Did Christianity Begin with a Mythical Christ?”, Canadian Humanist Publications, Ottawa, Canada, 1999

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  15. Steve says:

    Found the truth

    “The God of the Bible gave the Israelites the biggest victory in all its wars” Funny that the God of the bible did nothing to stop the genocide of six million of his beloved “Israelites” eh?

  16. Anonymous says:

    My Dear ‘Found The Truth’

    When Jesus appeared 2000 years ago. People were being killed, his own disciples were being crucified, and he himself was crucified. He could do absolutely nothing to save anyone. How do you explain him being God?

    God is supposed to be All powerful and in Full control All ways?

    Many Christians have been massacred by the Muslims, why didn’t the God of the Bible save them?

    Thank you.

  17. Steve says:

    A.H.

    “Some work to do for admins.” Good luck to them.

    “Christians are often banned from Islamic forums if they become too critical, so FFI is a good alternative.” The problem is Muslims rarely comment on this site, so maybe something else the admins are going to have to work on?

    “words like “mythical Godman” are denigrating.” 1) Jesus of Nazareth is a fictional character. 2) All mainstream Christian sects believe Jesus was both God and man therefore I correctly describe him as a “God-man”.

  18. Face_The_Truth says:

    screen-name whatever says:
    well its very puzzling, how come mohammad had been so successful to have spread his hate cult almost all the arabia with only handful of followers.

    MUHAMMAD THE ARABIAN MIGRATED TO YATHRIB WHEN MUHAMMAD FOUND OUT THAT HIS “PROPHETHOOD” AND “MONO-THEISM” HAD NO ATTRACTION TO MECCAN PEOPLE (I.E., PAGAN ARABS).

    MUHAMMAD FIRST TOOK SHELTER AMONGST THE JEWS OF YATHRIB, BECAUSE MUHAMMAD WAS FOLLOWING JEWISH SCRIPTURES.

    MUHAMMAD BUILT A GANG OF FOLLOWERS FROM THE OUTLAWS OF YATHRIB AND, LATER, MUHAMMAD CLAIMED TO BE HEARING VOICES IN HIS HEAD AND WANTED JEWISH PEOPLE OF YATHRIB TO ACCEPT HIM AS “PROPHET” IN THE SUCCESSION OF MOSES TO ELIJAH TO ELISHA TO JOSHUA AND COUNTLESS OTHER JEWISH “PROPHETS”.

    JEWISH PEOPLE OF YATHRIB REFUSED TO ACCEPT MUHAMMAD THE ARABIAN AS ANOTHER JEWISH “PROPHET”.

    MUHAMMAD USED HIS GANG OF THUGS TO CONSTANTLY INTIMIDATE, COMMIT EXTORTION, COLLECT RANSOM, SYSTEMATICALLY MURDER AND RAPE JEWISH PEOPLE OF YATHRIB.

    JEWISH PEOPLE OF YATHRIB WHO PREVIOUSLY SHELTERED MUHAMMAD THE ARABIAN FROM THE WRATH OF THE PAGAN ARABS OF MECCA AND WERE QUITE SYMPATHETIC TO MUHAMMAD’S “MONO-THEISM” FELL ON THE CROSS-HAIR OF MUHAMMAD’S NEWFOUND ZEAL.

    MUHAMMAD COMMITTED BLOODY GENOCIDE OF ALL JEWS OF YATHRIB WHO REFUSED TO PROCLAIM THAT, MUHAMMAD WAS THE LAST “PROPHET” IN THE SUCCESSION OF ALL PREVIOUS JEWISH “PROPHETS”.

    MUHAMMAD RE-NAMED YATHRIB INTO “MEDINA”.

    MUHAMMAD BUILT A MILITARY STATE IN “MEDINA” AND ADVANCED HIS VERSION OF “MONO-THEISM” CALLED “ISLAM” WITH THE HELP OF SWORDSMEN IN ALL DIRECTIONS.

    WHEN MUHAMMAD WAS BORN IN 570 A.D., CHRISTIANITY ALSO MATURED IN THE EUROPEAN CONTINENT BY 270 A.D. WHILE THE PAGAN ROMAN EMPIRE DECLINED BY 400 A.D.

    SINCE THERE WAS NO CENTRALIZED GOVT. AT THAT TIME, MUHAMMAD WAS CAPABLE OF DEFEATING HIS “ENEMIES” (I.E., NON-BELIEVERS) BY VIRTUE OF DECEIT SUCH AS MAKING AGREEMENTS WITH THE “ENEMIES” WHEN “ENEMIES” (I.E., NON-BELIEVERS) WERE STRONG AND, SUBSEQUENTLY, ABROGATING THE AGREEMENTS AND ATTACKING THE “ENEMIES” (I.E., NON-BELIEVERS) WHEN OPPORTUNE TIMES CAME.

    IN INDIAN SUBCONTINENT, THE “HINDU” MAURYA EMPIRE CAME TO THE END 150 YEARS BEFORE THE BIRTH OF CHRISTIAN IDOL JESUS THE NAZARENE JEW.

    SO, BY THE TIME MUHAMMAD THE ARABIAN WAS BORN, THERE WAS NO CENTRALIZED GOVERNMENT IN INDIAN SUBCONTINENT EITHER.

    PROVINCES, PRINCIPALITIES, CITIES AND TOWNS IN INDIAN SUBCONTINENT WERE RULED BY LOCAL PEOPLE.

    THE DECLINE OF THE “HINDU” MAURYA EMPIRE IN INDIAN SUBCONTINENT WAS PARTLY DUE TO BUDDHIST IDEOLOGICAL INFLUENCE OF “AHIMSA” DURING THE LATER DAYS OF “HINDU” MAURYA EMPEROR ASOKA.

    “AHIMSA” (I.E., NON-VIOLENCE) IS A GOOD THING TO HAVE AMONGST GOOD, NON-VIOLENT PEOPLE!

    HOWEVER, “AHIMSA” (I.E., NON-VIOLENCE) IS A SUICIDAL IDEOLOGY TO PUT TO PRACTICE WHEN FOREIGN INVADERS ATTACK YOUR HOMELAND(S), RAPE YOUR MOTHERS AND DAUGHTERS, ARSON YOUR HOMES, TEMPLES AND ARCHIVES AS WELL AS LOOT AND ROB YOUR ALL TREASURES.

    Why did’t Jews and christens and pagans were able to fight this monster.

    JEWS FIRST SHELTERED MUHAMMAD FROM THE PAGAN ARABS OF MECCA, BUT LATER REGRETTED AND IT WAS TOO LATE FOR THE JEWS OF YATHRIB!!!

    CHRISTIANS DID NOT FIGHT MUSLIMS, BECAUSE CHRISTIANS CONSIDERED MUSLIMS CO-RELIGIONISTS FOR DESTROYING ALL PAGAN TEMPLES AND MURDERING ALL PAGAN PEOPLE OF ARABIA, WHICH WAS JUST LIKE THE EARLY CHRISTIANS IN THE EUROPEAN CONTINENT WERE DOING TO ALL PAGAN PEOPLE OF EUROPE.

    WE AGAIN OBSERVED THE SAME CHRISTIAN MINDSET(S) IN THE LATE 13TH CENTURY A.D. WHEN PAGAN WAR-LORDS GENGHIS HAAN AND HULEGU HAAN WANTED CHRISTIAN CO-OPERATION, BUT CHRISTIANS IN EUROPE REFUSED TO JOIN PAGAN WAR-LORDS GENGHIS HAAN AND HULEGU HAAN TO KILL ALL MUSLIMS ANYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE.

    EARLY CHRISTIANS HAD THE GRUDGE AGAINST ALL JEWS FOR NOT ACCEPTING CHRISTIAN IDOL JESUS AS THE ULTIMATE JEWISH MESSIAH AND, THEREFORE, WHEN FOLLOWERS OF MUHAMMAD THE ARABIAN WERE MURDERING ALL JEWS IN THE ARABIAN PENINSULA, EUROPEAN CHRISTIANS WERE NOT UNHAPPY ABOUT THAT.

    Not only Arabia Islamic raiders had been highly successful in crushing turkey, Iran, Indian subcontinent.

    PLEASE DO NOT MAKE SUMMARY JUDGMENT ABOUT MEDIEVAL HISTORY WITHOUT LOOKING AT PARTICULAR AREAS CAREFULLY.

    WHEN PAGAN ROMAN EMPIRE DECLINED, THERE WAS NO “TURKEY”.

    IT WAS CALLED CHRISTIAN BYZANTINE EMPIRE — FOUNDED BY EMPEROR CONSTANTINE.

    “TURKS” WERE ETHNICALLY CENTRAL ASIAN PEOPLE WHO MIGRATED TO CHRISTIAN BYZANTINE EMPIRE AND, SUBSEQUENTLY, DESTROYED IT.

    IRANIANS WERE (ARE) VERY CURIOUS PEOPLE WHO ACCEPTED ISLAM WITHOUT A FIGHT!!!

    NOT ONLY INDIAN “HINDUS” WERE TAUGHT THAT ALL RELIGIONS WERE (ARE) SAME AND EQUAL AND WORSHIP OF ANY GOD (GODDESS) LED (LEAD) TO THE SAME AND EQUAL SALVATION, BUT ALSO WERE (ARE) TAUGHT TO GIVE SHELTER AND FOOD TO FOREIGN MIGRANTS OF ANY STRIPE.

    MUSLIMS FIRST MIGRATED TO INDIAN SUBCONTINENT AS MERCHANTS WHO WANTED TO COME FOR BUSINESS, SUFIS WHO WANTED TO COME FOR SPREADING THE VERY “PEACEFUL” VERSION OF ISLAM, AND MENDICANTS AND VAGABONDS WHO WANTED TO COME TO INDIAN SUBCONTINENT FOR A BETTER LIFE!

    INDIAN “HINDU” KINGS DID NOT TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE DEMOGRAPHIC SHIFTS IN THEIR HOMELAND.

    THOSE FOREIGN MUSLIM MIGRANTS ACTED AS EYES AND EARS OF SUBSEQUENT MUSLIM RAIDERS AND INVADERS FOR ISLAMIC MILITARY RAIDS AND WIDE-SCALE ISLAMIC MILITARY INVASIONS.

    WHEN INDIAN “HINDUS” LEARNED ABOUT THE TRICKS OF FOREIGN MUSLIM MIGRANTS, IT WAS LATE.

    BUT, NOT TOO LATE, AS DEFEATED INDIAN “HINDUS” REGROUPED AND FOUGHT BACK AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.

    THAT’S WHY INDIAN PEOPLE TODAY SPEAK NEITHER ARABIC NOR FARSI.

    I don’t understand how could Arabian monsters were able to ravage large part of world by force.

    FROM OUR RECORDED HISTORY I ALREADY EXPLAINED TO YOU IN MY ABOVE SENTENCES.

    IF YOU NEED FURTHER INFORMATION, PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING BOOK OF DR. MISRA FOR LEARNING HOW INDIAN “HINDUS” DID NOT ALLOW MUSLIM INVADERS TO HAVE AN EASY DAY.

    RAM GOPAL MISRA, “INDIAN RESISTANCE TO EARLY MUSLIM INVADERS UPTO 1206 A.D.”, ANU BOOKS, MEERUT CITY, INDIA, REPRINT 1992

    may be there was some paranormal force(aliens) behind them…..
    this is so mind boggling puzzling thing for me, once your people are killed and looted you always hit enemies with full force, but mohammad and his goons seemed like they had some strange force behind them.

    THERE WAS (IS) NO PARA-NORMAL FORCE.

    OTHERWISE, MUSLIMS WOULD HAVE BEEN THE RULERS OF THE ENTIRE WORLD BY NOW.

    WINNING MILITARY BATTLES AND WARS REQUIRE BOTH STRATEGIC MEANS AS WELL AS TECHNOLOGICAL MEANS.

    FOR STRATEGIC EXAMPLE,

    MUSLIMS USED LONG-TERM STRATEGY OF DEMOGRAPHIC SHIFT OF CONVERSION AND SUBJUGATION AS WELL AS CUNNING DECEIT ALL THE TIME WHEN DEALING WITH THE “ENEMIES” (I.E., NON-BELIEVERS).

    FOR TECHNOLOGICAL EXAMPLE,

    BRITISH CHRISTIAN IMPERIALISTS BROUGHT GUNS AND BULLETS WHICH MADE KNIVES AND SWORDS AND STICKS WORTHLESS.

    INDIAN “HINDUS” DID NOT HAVE GUNS AND BULLETS TO FIGHT BACK THE BRITISH CHRISTIAN IMPERIALISTS; SO, BRITISH CHRISTIAN IMPERIALISTS WERE ABLE TO RULE INDIAN SUBCONTINENT FOR 150 YEARS!

  19. Tom Cheria says:

    fun·da·men·tal·ist
    ˌfəndəˈmen(t)ələst/Submit
    noun
    1.
    a person who believes in the strict, literal interpretation of scripture in a religion.
    “religious fundamentalists”

    I unequivocally have stated on this forum and elsewhere:

    1. Bible is not wrriten by Jesus.
    2. Bible is not the word of God but Bible has word of God (Life of Jesus = Word of God)
    3. Bible is written by men inspired by the greatness of God and not inspired directly by God.
    4. Bible is history with opinions of which some opinions are wrong as well.

    I would never fit into the defintion of a fundamentalist – just saying bro.

    Religion = way of life. Even Atheism, Music, Nazism are all religions. US constitutioin does not define religion and rightfully so. If one person says Athiesm, Wicca, Music, Nazism or Christianity is a religion then by virtue of 1st amendment we are required to accept it. SCOTUS have repeatedly affirmed this.

    Having said this I do not believe all religions are the same. Some religions are good some evil and some in between.

    Christianity and Budhism are good religions.
    Nazism and Islam are evil religions.
    Other religions that I know of falling in between good and evil.

  20. A.H. says:

    Tom,

    Why did you skip “try to have genuine discussions”?

    “If you are talking about me then you don’t know the meaning about “fundamentalism”.

    You are the standard?

    “If you have alt-definitions please share.”

    You already gave an alt-definition, but that is too narrow in my opinion, it can be broader.

    “Christian fundamentalists like Amish and Mennonites don’t go about killing non-Christians.”

    Do they kill christians? What about the JWs or the Westboro Baptists? These denominations have at least two things in common, they are american and believe in the bible alone. Their ancestors fled protestant europe to have their own brand of christianity in the New World. There are thousands upon thousands of these groups, but by what authority?

  21. A.H. says:

    Steve,

    “This site is purely dedicated to criticize Muhammad.”

    Many of the comments here are offtopic.Some work to do for admins.

    “In case you haven’t notice Muslims rarely comment on this site.”

    Christians are often banned from Islamic forums if they become too critical, so FFI is a good alternative.

    “Christians who start discussions about their religion by claiming their mythical Godman is solely responsible for western civilisation or claims of that nature or who start criticising “Hinduism”.

    Criticising is, as early as you can go, a good habit in the history of western society. Old habits die hard. Bear in mind that western civilisation is much broader than christianity. My point is to critsise in a positive and constructive way, words like “mythical Godman” are denigrating.

  22. Tom Cheria says:

    Steve

    Fair Enough.

  23. Steve says:

    Tom

    “whom you hate” When did I say I hate Christians? All I have talked about is that your God man is a myth and that Christianity and the so called holy church did a great deal of harm to western civilisation. That doesn’t qualify as hate.

    “You want me to suppress a fact that WCC is so successful” When have I told you to suppress the fact that western (so called) Christian civilisation is successful?

    “especially Muslims are lining up Western Consulates to get into West? Why should I?” When I have even spoke about this issue? The only time I discussed that on this site was about 2 years ago when I told someone else (who was accusing white people of racism by their reluctance to have Muslim refugees in their country). That the idea of universal compassion doesn’t exist outside of white European democracies – everywhere else in the world you have to give respect to be shown respect there is no such thing as “human rights” anywhere else. If Muslim refugees behaved like they did in Europe anywhere else in the world they would either have to get out the country or they would get killed. And I’m not telling anyone to suppress this fact.

  24. Tom Cheria says:

    schizophrenic > Steve < schizophrenic

    Open your eyes and look at the success of Western Christian Civilization where 99% reject allahTheSATAN and 90% try to live sinless like JESUS and celebrate Christmas.

    It is not my problem that non-Christians could not create successful civilization like WCC. If you have a civilization that is as successful as WCC please show me. I always agree Buddhist created the next best civilization.

    Why is that you don't want to go far away from Christians whom you hate and create a successful civilization. Why live among Christians?

    You want me to suppress a fact that WCC is so successful and non-Christians especially Muslims are lining up Western Consulates to get into West? Why should I?

  25. Steve says:

    A.H.

    “This site is purely dedicated to criticize Muhammad.” In case you haven’t notice Muslims rarely comment on this site. It’s usually Christians who start discussions about their religion by claiming their mythical Godman is solely responsible for western civilisation or claims of that nature or who start criticising “Hinduism”.

  26. Tom Cheria says:

    “christian fundamentalism”

    If you are talking about me then you don’t know the meaning about “fundamentalism”. If you have alt-definitions please share..

    Christian fundamentalists like Amish and Mennonites don’t go about killing non-Christians.

  27. A.H. says:

    I would please with you to not criticize Hindus unless schizophrenic Steve or face the truth start bashing Christianity. This site is purely dedicated to criticize Muhammad.

    Try to have genuine discussions here, and please leave out christian fundamentalism.

  28. Tom Cheria says:

    Slavery & Christianity

    Christianity = way of live where people TRY to live sinless like JESUS.

    JESUS never owned slaves and slave owning would be directly disregarding all of the teachings of JESUS – so slavery is not incompatible with Christianity. PERIOD.

    Has Christians owned slaves? Hell Ya!! Yes Christians have and they are the SINNED Christians. I am consistent that all Christians including founding fathers of USA who owned slaves against the teachings of JESUS is now rotting in HELL along with Muhammad the slave owner.

    Bible is NOT written by JESUS.
    Leviticus is NOT written by JESUS.
    Deuteronomy is NOT written by JESUS.

    Arabs had 4 times slaves than Christian West ever had but have you noticed there are so few blacks in Arabia this is because Arabs used to castrate black male slaves and kill any dark skinned baby born to black female slaves.

    It was Christian West that banned slavery first in the world. It was Christians (American Northerners) who fought against Christians who supported slavery and won the American Civil War. Show me another civilization where people fought against their own people against slavery.

    Thanks to Buddha. He also banned slave trade not the institution of slavery. This is why Buddhist could create the second best civilization on planet earth.

    Muhammad only asked to free muslim slaves — this is apartheid and worse apartheid than South Africa.
    Muhammad has at least twice cancelled manumission can you imagine this someone had compassion in his/her heart that they decided to free a slave and Muhammad comes along and cancels manumission. And this is the great man ever lived – give me a break!!

  29. Anonymous says:

    Please always quote the whole story and not parts to deceive people. Lord Krishna had 16,108 wives, but there were also 16,108 Krishnas. One Krishna for each wife. This is simple proof that He was God. Only God can duplicate His body into 16,108 100% identical forms. Also, out these wives, 16,100 girls were rejected by society and they asked Him to marry them. So Lord Krishna being most merciful and loving, married the rejected girls. he married them all at the same time in different venues. This is proof He was God. He was present at 16,100 locations at the same time in the same body forms. This is proof He was God.

    Manu Smrithi is NOT Authoritative Scripture of Hindu religion. ‘manu’ means man and ‘smrithi’ means remembered. Thus Manu Smrithi is from man and not God.

    The Hindu scripture directly from God is the Bhagavad-Gita.

  30. Tom Cheria says:

    Found The Truth
    I would please with you to not criticize Hindus unless schizophrenic Steve or face the truth start bashing Christianity. This site is purely dedicated to criticize Muhammad.

    I believe it is million times better to worship Idol than worshiping the SATAN(allah). SATAN worship is the worst of the worst worship.

  31. Tom Cheria says:

    ISLAM = ONLY religion whose founder was a vile slave owner.

    JESUS never owned slaves. Muhammad owned slaves.
    JESUS never boned female slaves. Muhammad frequently boned female slaves.

    What is more racist than respecting a vile slave owner as the greatest man ever lived?

    We will not allow Muhammad the slave owner to be respected in Christian West. PERIOD.

  32. Anonymous says:

    There is no slavery taught by Hindu scriptures. You can easily verify this by going to India and visiting any Brahmins. They don’t keep anyone as slaves. The word ‘slave’ is used in some verses as English translation to mean a worker who is dedicated to doing work for others and especially the priestly persons (Brahmins) for the advancement of religion and welfare of people. It does not mean slave as it is used in the Bible and Quran.

    In Hinduism there are many scriptures, the most authoritive is the Bhagavad-Gita, because it is spoken by the proven God in person, Lord Krishna. Please quote from the Bhagavad-Gita to support any claims. This was spoken on the battlefield where millions of soldiers were killed and thus there millions of widows and daughters without fathers. Not a single female was taken captive by any side, not one. Lord Krishna Himself saved many people and destroyed the demonic. He only destroyed the demonic who were harrassing the public, this is clear from the scriptures (Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 10). Lord Krishna never ordered slavery, nor looting, nor raping. He also does not curse anyone, every living entity is dear to Him. He never preached eternal damnation for any soul. This is because all living entities are part of Him, and He loves all equally.

    Lord Krishna commands His devotees to love everyone.

    “One who is not envious but is a kind friend to all living entities – such a devotee of Mine is very dear to Me…” (Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita 12.13-14)

    “Who treats alike both friend and enemy…” (Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita 14.22-25)

    “The Supreme Personality of Godhead said: Fearlessness; purification of one’s existence; cultivation of spiritual knowledge; charity; self-control; performance of sacrifice; study of the Vedas; austerity; simplicity; nonviolence; truthfulness; freedom from anger; renunciation; tranquility; aversion to faultfinding; compassion for all living entities; freedom from covetousness; gentleness; modesty; steady determination; vigor; forgiveness; fortitude; cleanliness; and freedom from envy and from the passion for honor – these transcendental qualities, O son of Bharata, belong to godly men endowed with divine nature.” (Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita 16.1-3)

    Lord Krishna proved that He is forgiving by giving everyone, unlimited chances and not just one.

    Everyone is eternally existing and gets unlimited chances

    “Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be. As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change.” (Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita 2.12-13)

    Lord Krishna states above that we are all eternal and we get unlimited chances or lives. There is no eternal damnation for any soul.

    Lord Krishna proved that He is most responsible.

    Lord Krishna considers everyone to be His family member

    “The living entities in this conditioned world are My eternal fragmental parts. Due to conditioned life, they are struggling very hard with the six senses, which include the mind.” (Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita 15.7)

    Lord Krishna gives us free will

    “Thus, I have explained to you knowledge still more confidential. Deliberate on this fully, and then do what you wish to do.” (Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita 18.63)

    Lord Krishna does not force anyone to follow Him, nor curse, nor torment anyone. This is because, Lord Krishna is the most responsible Person.

    ——————————————————————————
    Slavery from the Bible:

    “You may have male and female slaves but buy them from the nations around you.” (Leviticus 25:44)

    Slavery is banned everywhere in the world by human laws because it is evil.

    “But the women, the little ones, the livestock, and all that is in the city, even all its plunder, you shall take for plunder for yourself. You may use the plunder of your enemies; which Yahweh your God has given you.” (Deuteronomy 20:14)

    Taking women and children captive in war or outside war is considered most barbaric by those who are civilized.

    Stoning:

    “If a man or woman among you in one of your towns that the Lord your God will give you is discovered doing evil in the sight of the Lord your God and violating his covenant 3 and has gone to serve other gods by bowing in worship to the sun, moon, or all the stars in the sky—which I have forbidden— 4 and if you are told or hear about it, then investigate it thoroughly. If the report turns out to be true that this detestable act has been done in Israel, 5 you are to bring out to your city gates that man or woman who has done this evil thing and stone them to death.” (Deuteronomy 17:2-5)

    Slaughter of surrendered men and women:

    “Don’t assume that I came to bring peace on the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.” (Matthew 10:34)

    “But bring here these enemies of mine, who did not want me to rule over them, and slaughter them in my presence.’” (Luke 19:27 CSB)

    Only one example should suffice to illustrate the success of Jesus’ teaching; “slaughter them in my presence.”
    Godfrey of Bouillon conquest of Jerusalem (c1060-1100) ― Known as the “First Crusade:”
    “The defenders fled along the walls and through the city, and our men pursued them killing and cutting them down as far as Solomon’s Temple, where there was such a massacre that our men were wading ankle deep in blood … Then the crusaders rushed around the whole city, seizing gold and silver, horses and mules, and looting the housing that were full of costly things. Then, rejoicing and weeping from excess of happiness, they all came to worship and give thanks at the sepulcher of our savior Jesus. Next morning, they went cautiously up the temple roof and attacked the Saracens, both men and women [who had taken refuge there], cutting off their heads with drawn swords … Our leaders then gave orders that all the Saracen corpses should be thrown outside the city because of the stench, for almost the whole city was full of dead bodies … such a slaughter of pagans had never been seen or heard of, for they were burned in pyres like pyramids, and none save God alone knows how many they were.”
    Raymond of Aguiles provided eyewitness account which shows the spiritual excitement that the carnage produced among the Christians.
    “Wonderful sights were to be seen. Some of our men (and this was more merciful) cut off the heads of their enemies; others shoot them with arrows, so that they fell from the towers; others tortured them longer by casting them into flames. Piles of heads, hands and feet were to be seen in the streets of the city. It was necessary to pick one’s way over the bodies of men and horses. But these were small matters compared to what happened at the Temple of Solomon, a place where religious services are normally chanted … in the temple and the porch of Solomon, men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins. Indeed it was a just and splendid judgement of God that this place should be filled with the blood of unbelievers since it had suffered so long from their blasphemies.”

  33. Anonymous says:

    The Bible and the Quran both advocate slavery, taking women captive, stoning men and women, looting, use of fear to get followers. For the followers of both these scriptures, God is unseen, unknown, and unknowable.

  34. Anonymous says:

    There is no God of the Bible, please read the Bible. Jesus is not God based on his own admission in many Bible verses. Also there is ZERO evidence for Jesus being God. He never saved anyone. Multiplying food, bring back those who have been dead for a few days, and walking on water does not make one God. All these micky mouse miracles have been performed by millions of humans before Jesus. Read all the documents on the planets to know the truth and not just one book (Bible).

    God is only described in the scriptures of one religion. God has only been seen by the followers of one religion. God is only proven in one religion. This is because, God is One. This one God loves everyone who lives a sinless life, regardless of which religion they follow. This is because, He is forgiving and merciful to all. This God does not anyone to eternal hell. Only the man concocted gods use fear to get followers, not the real God.

  35. Found The Truth says:

    This is the answer to whatever’s question.

    Islamic forces are Satanic forces which generally prevail and have historically prevailed over Pagan (Hindu, Persian, Buddhist, Tribal) and Atheist forces. This Satanic force may be superhuman but is not divine.

    Judeo-Christian forces who believe in the only true God who exists (i.e. the triune God of the Bible reflected in Christ) will generally prevail and has historically prevailed over Islamic, Pagan and Atheist forces.

    The forces who believe and have the God of Bible on their side will always prevail over Anti-Christian forces whether Pagan, Islamic or Atheist.

  36. Walter Sieruk says:

    On the above list of behavior and teaching of the prophet of Islam, Muhammad. Number 13 informs the reader that Muhammad had nine wives. To this the light of the Bible reveals that polygamy is not sanctioned by God. For example God gave Adam one wife. Furthermore, in the New Testament Jesus taught “For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife…” Jesus said “wife.” Not “wives” Mathew 19:5. [K.J.V.] Likewise, in First Timothy 3:2. In instructs “A bishop the must be blameless, the husband on one wife.” Here again it’s “one wife” Nevertheless, there are some people who will act as apologists for polygamy by say the king David of Israel and then later his son ,who became King Solomon of Israel did practice polygamy. Such people aren’t taking into account both the time and place. For the only reason that God did tolerate this tradition was not because it was right or that He approved of it. It was because this practice of having many wives was such an entrenched custom in the ancient Middle East that God allowed it for the above mentioned Kings of Israel. This does not mean that this custom, of polygamy, was to keep on going in other times and places.

  37. Walter Sieruk says:

    As for the information list about the founder and prophet of Islam., Muhammad. Number 8 on the list reads “The prophet kept slaves, including black slaves… ” Therefore about Muslims kidnapping girls and women and using them as sex slaves. This actually started with the prophet of Islam, Muhammad . Who all Muslims look to as an example of how to behave. It’s revealed in the book JESUS AND THE JIHADIS by the Christian authors Graig A. Evans and Jeremiah J. Johnson For on page 124 it informs the reader about Muhammad that that he “Mohammad endorsed enslavement of all types: he personally owned two ”Black slaves… ” he endorsed sex-slavery as a gift from Allah, and enjoyed offering sex-slaves as gifts…” Further on the very next page it also exposes that “Islam has enslaved more people than any other culture.”

  38. Anonymous says:

    The answer to user:whatever question is very simple. The non-Muslims (Christians, Hindus, Jews, others) never would think that such monsters as Muslims would exist among the humans. The civilized (non-Muslims) only think of others as civilized. It’s this mentality among the non-Muslims that has enabled Muslims to conquer and take over countries. Even today, most non-Muslims still believe Muslims are civilized humans who simply want to leave peacefully. This is completely false, but this is the reality. Non-Muslims are basically being deceived by Muslims but still most non-Muslims cannot see it. Even after 911 and thousands of terror attacks.

    Wake up civilized humans, not all humans are civilized.

  39. whatever says:

    Well its very puzzling,how come Mohammad had been so successful to have spread his hate cult almost all the Arabia with only handful of followers. Why did’t Jews and christens and pagans were able to fight this monster.
    Not only Arabia Islamic raiders had been highly successful in crushing turkey,Iran,Indian subcontinent. I don’t understand how could Arabian monsters were able to ravage large part of world by force.
    MAY BE THERE WAS SOME PARANORMAL FORCE(ALIENS) BEHIND THEM…..
    THIS IS SO MIND BOGGLING PUZZLING THING FOR ME,ONCE YOUR PEOPLE ARE KILLED AND LOOTED YOU ALWAYS HIT ENEMIES WITH FULL FORCE,BUT MOHAMMAD AND HIS GOONS SEEMED LIKE THEY HAD SOME STRANGE FORCE BEHIND THEM.

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