The Fatwas and the Crippled Muslim Society

 

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Stupidity is the same as evil if you judge by the results”.

Margaret Atwood

In low intelligent ignorant societies, the clever are denigrated and the stupid are belauded; the brainy are stoned and the dull are held in high esteem!

Murat Ildan

A fatwa is a decree. The usual sequence is that an orthodox Muslim puts an issue before an authority, and the latter rules on the topic and gives a formal legal opinion (Zaydan, 1976, p. 130). Anyone trained in Islamic law may issue a fatwa – either an individual or an institution – and problems of life, belief and law which confront a Muslim are thus answered. Qur’an says,

“… the matter is decreed concerning which you inquired.” (Q: 12.41)

So ask the people of the knowledge if you do not know.” (Q: 21.7)

Then judge (think, consider) O you with eyes.” (Q: 59.2)

She said: O chiefs! give me advice respecting my affair: I never decide an affair until you are in my presence. (Q: 27.32)

   Issuing a fatwa as per Shariah (Allah’s sacred law) is an art. Here, Shariah is used as a standard test of validity of all positive laws – “a standard of values to which all law must be compiled with” (Alhaji, 1998, p. 303). So, fatwas are the Shariah in action. The learned (mosque-type education) professors of Islam pronounce on matters ranging from personal hygiene, to marital relationships, to the fine points of law on inheritance and various scientific matters, such as earth moves around the sun or the sun moves around the earth etc. Though most of them do not break new ground, some really take a bizarre turn. This is the funny side of Islam. Though people say that a humor book can be found on every religion except Islam, this is not true. The fatwas accurately depict the ‘ahkam’ (orders, wills) of Allah Almighty regarding obligation, permission and prohibition. Qayyim (1955, p. 224) described that a cleric is a reporter of Allah’s ‘hukm’ (order) regarding an issue. Let me present some gems and jewels.

   In a 1993 fatwa, Saudi Arabian Grand Mufti Sheikh Ibn Baaz declared “The earth is flat. Whoever claims it is round is an atheist deserving of punishment.” (Das, 2012, p. 274; Reyes, 2010, p. 564). Ibn Baz disbelieved the news of the landing on the moon, and even suspected conspiracies behind the propagation of such falsehoods (AbuKhalil, 2002, p. 64). Previously, in 1966, this cleric wrote another quirky fatwa, “Sun goes around the earth and earth is motionless”. (Weston, 2008, p. 329). According to him, the satellite images to the contrary were nothing but a Western conspiracy against the Islamic world. This great Qur’anic scholar was head of the Council of Senior Scholars and was granted presidency of the administration for scientific research and legal rulings. Later, Ibn Baaz urged a caution towards fellow Muslims,

   “We must make careful checks whenever the kuffar [unbelievers] or faseqoon [immoral folk] tell us something: we cannot believe or disbelieve them until we get sufficient proof on which the Muslims can depend” (Lacey, 2009, p. 352).

   It is sad that Muslim scholars think that Western Scientists are very narrow-minded. But does Qur’an really teach science? According to Qur’anic cosmology the earth is flat – a circular disk, stretched out like a carpet, a thing spread to sit or lie upon, extend, stretch out, bed, carpet, expand, stretch out, spread out flat, a flatten part etc (Q: 2.22; 13.3; 15.19; 20.53; 43.10; 50.7, 51.48; 71.19, 78.6, 88.20, 91.6). Allah had put mountains like paper-weights on it (Q: 31.10) and driven them as pegs (Q: 78.7). The earth is fixed and stationary. The sun, moon and planets move around the earth in a circular motion (Bukhari: 4.54.421). The sun takes Allah’s permission to rise and set (Q: 36.38), and the sun can be folded up (Q: 81.1). The Grand Mufti did not study any other book except Islamic literature. As a result, he considered the non-muslim scientists as laymen in regard to understanding the meaning of the Qur’an. Since Allah’s revelation has primacy over science, as a sincere student of knowledge he insisted that the earth is flat. Abul A’ala Maududi (1903 to 1979), one of the greatest Muslim thinkers of the last century, said:

   “As the aim of the Qur’an is to guide Man and not to teach Nature Study or History or Philosophy or any other science or art, it does not concern itself with these latter subjects.” (Maududi, 1975, p. xxvi)

   The Qur’an REALLY described a geocentric universe revolving around a flat earth because Muhammad understood it that way.

   Saudi authorities issue extremely creative fatwas. A prominent Saudi religious leader, Sheikh Mohammed al-Munajid, issued a fatwa against all mice – “Shariah, or Islamic law, calls for the extermination of all mice. That includes the common house mouse as well as the famous cartoon [Mickey] mouse.” The learned cleric explained, in a television interview reported by the MEMRI (Middle East Media Research Institute), “The mouse is one of Satan’s soldiers and is steered by him” and makes everything it touches impure. Munajid expressed his Islamic wisdom in the following comment.

   “If a mouse falls into a pot of food – if the food is solid, you should chuck out the mouse and the food touching it, and if it is liquid – you should chuck out the whole thing, because the mouse is impure…. According to Islamic law, the mouse is a repulsive, corrupting creature. How do you think children view mice today – after Tom and Jerry?… Even creatures that are repulsive by nature, by logic, and according to Islamic law have become wonderful and are loved by children. Even mice.

   Mickey Mouse has become an awesome character, even though according to Islamic law, Mickey Mouse should be killed in all cases.” (Beckford, 2008)

   The same cleric had also called for a ban on football, because the shorts worn by the players ‘reveal nakedness’. Arab’s stupidity tops the chart of all sorts of Islamic stupidity. Islam sucks away the brain of the Muslims.

   Does Allah want us to die laughing?

   Many Islamic governments appoint religious scholars on the reserve seats in their legislative bodies to issue fatwa. In last few years, the supply of fatwas has far outstripped demand, and it’s getting laughable, and lately, some Muslim clerics have gone straight crazy. Jalan (2015) mentioned many crazy fatwas, such as:

  1. Women are prohibited from watching football because they look at men’s thighs (from Saudi Arabia)
  2. Men must wear clothing that covers all of their thighs (opposing to previous fatwa, a cleric, Sheikh Abd al-Rahman al-Ajlan had issued this one).
  3. Girls should not dress up as tomboys because they were supposedly ‘violating human nature’ (issued by the Malaysian National Fatwa council).
  4. If a couple has sex in a naked state, their marriage would be nullified (Rashad Hassan Khalil, former dean of Al-Azhar University, Cairo, had issued this fatwa). In support, the chairman of the university’s fatwa committee commented that married couples could see each other’s naked body but should cover up in a blanket while having sex.
  5. You can totally take a stealthy look at your bathing fiancée but you must marry her thereafter (from a cleric Osama al-Quosy)
  6. Having food in a buffet is haram. Even having food at open buffet banquets is not permissible because “they do not quote a clear price for transactions” (from Egypt).
  7. Reading romantic novels are prohibited because they leave you in a world of fantasy (issued by Sheikh Salman al-Oadah). However, “certain academics” can read them “to be aware of what’s out there”.
  8. In a particular case from India, a woman was raped by her father-in-law and instead of punishing him, the fatwa said that her husband had now become her son! (from the Islamic court in Deoband of India). The father-in-law now became her husband, and hence, naturally her husband would now be her son. However, acting upon the victim’s plea, the Indian government later arrested the father-in-law.
  9. Women cannot eat phallic-shaped fruits/vegetables, such as cucumber and banana because they turn women on, making them do sinful activities! (from an Islamist preacher living in Europe)
  10. Living on Mars is prohibited!!! (issued by the United Arab Emirates’ General Authority for Islamic Affairs and Endowment)
  11. Use of emoticons (pictorial representation of facial expressions) is forbidden because they imitate Allah’s creatures (from Muslim Internet Forum). Play or watch Pokemon video games and cards are also prohibited because “such activities promote gambling and possess the minds of young people” (from Saudi Arabia’s Higher Committee for Scientific Research and Islamic Law)
  12. Muslim men can have sex with their just-deceased wives (issued by the head of Moroccan Association for Jurisprudence Research) because no holy book prohibits sex with corpses.
  13. Women should not sit on chairs (issued by al-Habib Omar Bin Muhammad). When a woman sits on a chair she exposes herself to an extra-marital affair by ‘jinn’.
  14. Unrelated men and women can work alone together if the women breastfeed the man (issued by the cleric Ezzat Attiya). When a woman breastfeeds the man, he becomes her son.
  15. Husbands are allowed to eat their wives if they are extremely hungry (issued by Cleric Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah). The cleric must be a psycho like Prophet Muhammad. The cleric believes within his Islamic understanding that such an act represents the woman’s sacrifice and obedience to her husband and “her desire for the two to become one”.
  16. Eating meat of the jinn is permissible (from Egypt). However, the cleric did not mention where to find jinn.
  17. It’s a crime to talk while you are urinating! (issued by Sheikh Abd al-Wahhab al-Turayri from Fatwa Department Research Committee). It is only acceptable if you are asking for water to clean yourself.

   This is the height of Islamic stupidity. From the above verdicts we can see a complete disregard for the social, economic, psychological and scientific knowledge regarding a particular issue. Totally devoid of commonsense, these clerics are very powerful as Ibrahim et al. (2015, p. 323) noted, the position of many clerics is similar to that of a minister and the fatwas issued by them have utmost legal validity which are adopted by the court through legal decision. Few dared to cross swords with them, indeed few dared to even stand in their way.

   There is a good reason to be a Muslim – they don’t have to take the hardship of using their brain. Otherwise they would have issued a fatwa against these ‘scholarly’ clerics. These clerics are honest and sincere in their part, as their all understanding comes from the “strict literal translation of the Qur’an” (Razi, 2014, p. 7). They have absolutely no insight into the social, economic and customary problems of the people, but in Muslim Nations their judgments are the final one.

   We can see this crippled thought pattern of Muslims in India also. Dar al-῾Ulum is performing the function of issuing fatwa in India. Starting in 1866, from the very beginning, they were profoundly anti-west and anti-modern and their main objective was “to provide Indian Muslims a direct access to the original sources of Islamic learning…” (Shourie, 2006, pp. 6-7). From 1962 they have published fatwas in volumes and discussed many important points from Islamic point of view, such as:

  1. If a minor girl is raped, is a bath necessary for her?
  2. If a man knowingly inserts a finger in the vagina of a woman, is bath necessary?
  3. If a woman inserts a finger in the vagina of another woman, is bath necessary?
  4. If a girl inserts a finger in her own vagina without being excited, is bath necessary?
  5. Is a pregnant goat which has been used for intercourse allowed or prohibited for eating?
  6. If a Muslim had intercourse with a cow and then sold it, how the money should be spent?
  7. After how many days one should remove pubic hair?
  8. Can one pick one’s nose in front of others?
  9. Is the urine of a cow or camel good or not?
  10. May one sleep with one leg resting on the other knee?
  11. How to urinate – standing or sitting?
  12. Is the water usable if a pig falls into a well?
  13. Can one who has piles lead the Islamic prayer?
  14. May a mother spread paper on the floor so that the child may defecate on it rather than soil the floor, and so that the excreta many be thrown away that much more easily?

   Stupid is as stupid does. The examples can be multiplied manifold, but I stop here for good because any further example may give the readers nausea. This is how the Muslim leaderships in India spend their time and energy. Other subjects of earnest exposition are geography of heaven and its meteorology, menstrual blood, semen of a man, cat’s and dog’s urine, triple talaq, and indeed cursing the infidels. Sometimes the scholars cannot decide amongst themselves and fight. As example, two famous scholars – Qadi Shihabuddin Daulatabhai and Shaikh Abdul Fath Junpuri – engaged in a bitter controversy and abused and cursed each other invoking Allah’s name on the question of whether the saliva of a cat was clean or unclean (Shourie, 2008, p. 266). This is the height of Islamic creativity on the sacred soil of India.

   Yet another fatwa from Indonesian authorities had banned Muslim women to pass winds with sound because in doing so she appears like a man. (Angelowicz, 2013). Flatulence, commonly known as farting is a natural body-act. This cannot be banned or controlled by law. In Malaysia we can see fatwas regarding child marriage (child under the age of puberty), womb donation, various types of vaccine, and indelible ink (Ibrahim et al., 2015, p. 323). These absurd edicts play a very significant role in Muslim society because the life of Muslims and their personality is clear and plain in terms of their beliefs, worship, social life, economic activity, legislation, litigation and the law. As Ibrahim et al. (2015, p. 323) wrote:

   “Fatwa and mufti play a very significant role in Muslim society. If no one is entrusted with the role of issuing fatwa, society would descend into chaos to the extent that people are not able to differentiate between what is permissible and what is prohibited. Perhaps, in such a scenario, what is permissible might become prohibited while what is prohibited might become permissible. Therefore, fatwa and mufti are necessary in order to meet with the religious needs of society.”

   In Pakistan, there are unlimited religious schools (madrassah) and their graduates are assigned authority to issue fatwa; each of them claims of following the true teachings of Islam. Razi (2014, p. 12) lamented:

   “This unlimited and unrestricted authority of issuing fatwa in Pakistan has created so many problems for Pakistani people and especially for women. For instance, a fatwa was issued on April 2012 in Kohistan against the women of NGO’s that they would be forcefully married to the local men if they dared to enter there. Likewise, on May 11, 2012, in a mosque of Noshki, Balochistan, a fatwa was issued that any women using a cell phone will have acid thrown on her face.

   According to New York Times (May 17, 2002), a judge in Pakistan sentenced a young woman, Zafran Bibi, to death for “adultery” by stoning. Her fault was that she was raped by her husband’s brother. The judge defended his action by saying that he had simply followed the Qur’an based law – the Shariah (Trifkovic, 2002, pp. 154-55). It’s sad that Muslims continue to treat women in such a derogatory and inhumane way. The human life evolves with time and development, but the clerics still live in the dark age of Islam. As long as Muslims believe that the Qur’an is appropriate and compatible with every place and time, the flow of funny but dangerous fatwas will never cease. The clerics can openly disrespect the women because Qur’an says:

   “And they ask you a decision about women. Say: Allah makes known to you (Q: 4.127)

   At present, illiteracy in Pakistan is the most burning issue. The clerics take advantage of it; they condemn worldly and as well as scientific education and favor only literal understanding of the Qur’an and Hadith, and try their best to confine the young generation to the study at madrassahs. Lack of scientific knowledge, lack of technology, overpopulation and poverty had resulted in the failure to establish an organized society with strong moral and good consciousness and to maintain justice among the people. As a result, common people get confused and put them into anxiety as every Muslim just wants to please Allah and Muhammad.

   The reason common Muslims are very much all right with these verdicts is that these fatwas accurately reflect what has been set out in the Qur’an and the Hadiths. Muslims have no central authority beyond the Qur’an. The clerics “interpret the legal texts of the Qur’an and the Sunnah in the light of his own interpretive modes and thus, derive Islamic law” (Razi, 2014, p. 9). This is the strength of the authorities; in the end they can always cite the Qur’anic verses and Hadiths and no Muslim can find an answer around those ultimate authorities.

   During early February 1979 the mullahs and the ayatollahs drove out Shah and established the Islamic Republic of Iran and the writings and recordings of fundamentalist Islamists like Ayatollah Khomeini and Ali Shariati were being widely circulated among the Iranians (Milton-Edwards, 2005, p. 81). Khomeini dusted down a number of passages from the Qur’an in particular those concerning the sexual behavior of the Shia Muslims. Then he compiled a set of rules and collected them in a handbook called the ‘Blue Book’. Part of this book was published by an Italian magazine under the playful title ‘The Ten Khomeindments’ (Fallaci, 2004, pp. 211-12). Some of the Khomeini’s fatwas are worth mentioning.

  1. Marriage with one’s own sister, or one’s own mother or one’s own mother-in-law is prohibited.
  2. A man who had sexual relationships with his aunt cannot marry her daughter, i.e., his cousin.
  3. If a father has three daughters and wants to give one of them in marriage, at the wedding ceremony he must specify which daughter he is giving.
  4. If a man marries a minor who has reached the age of nine and if during the defloration he immediately breaks the hymen, he cannot enjoy her any longer.
  5. If a widowed or repudiated wife has not reached the age of nine, she may remarry soon after her widowhood or the repudiation without waiting for the prescribed four months and ten days.
  6. If a wife does not obey her husband and is not always available for her pleasure, the husband does not give her food, clothing or lodging.
  7. The mother and the daughter and the sister of a man who has had anal relationship with another man may not marry the later. But if the later has had or having anal relations with an acquired relative, the marriage remains valid.
  8. A man who has had sexual relationship with an animal, such as a sheep, may not eat its meat.

   When I read all these religious verdicts, more than nausea they make me ill. Today the whole Muslim society is stinking like a gutter but they want us to respect their stone-age culture. This society is completely devoid of spirituality and humanity. How can I respect a culture where a man is specifically instructed that marrying his own mother, or own sister is prohibited and eating a sheep that he keeps as his mistress is not allowed? How can a sane person sing the praises of a society where a girl-child can be widowed or repudiated at the age of nine or before? These clerics are the children of ignorance and mother of misery of the entire Muslim world. Almost every school throughout the Muslim world teaches religion and the Qur’an, notwithstanding the schools in and around mosques. To what extent is science, physics, biology, chemistry, philosophy, social science etc. being taught?

   Islam created a culture and society where these authorities could never be questioned. His and his will only counted like a pyramid with only one center and peak. Everywhere it took hold; freedom and any manifestation of evolution, science and technology, any expression of free will and development of reasoning power were immediately stifled. Reason is the light, the sun, of the brain; it is the compass of the mind. Since Islam enslaves its followers, it intimidates the Muslims and makes them feel stupid even if they are intelligent. Today, Muslims are lagging behind in all aspects of human development – science, art, technology, military, economy, law, architecture, philosophy etc. In Western Nations most of the Muslims live like parasites. Muslim Ummah can neither be reformed nor rescued from the doldrums of slumber, bondage and decadence. Its collapse is imminent and not far away. It is dying like a rabid dog. In its last days it can only inflict death to everyone and everything that comes within biting range.

   Where Islam governs, there is no equality. Where there is no equality, there is no democracy. No democracy means no progress, no evolution. No evolution means that people are indeed backwards. Muslims threaten to wage war every single time people offend them or their religion, behave like animals and yet at the same time have a disgusting air of superiority. Islam is the most backward and reactionary ideology on earth. This autocratic, totalitarian ideology is the root cause of most of the evils today. This filthy satanic cult of Muhammad had never made man moral, temperate, industrious, honest and free. Muslims have never received any help from the heaven, that all sacrifices have been in vain and all prayers have died unanswered in the heedless air.

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Sujit Das

Sujit Das lives in Mumbai (India). He is the author of several articles critical of Islam and two books "Islam Dismantled: The Mental Illness of Prophet Muhammad" and "The Allah Delusion". He can be contacted at [email protected]

16 Responses

  1. Face_The_Truth says:

    Typing errors:

    For instance, Christianity in Europe was dead against atheist Communists of Soviet Union; but, Christianity [in] India works hand-in-hand with Indian Communist Party politicians in order to destroy “Hindu” Bharat Rashtra from within.

    So, financially poor and down-trodden “Hindus” of India easily fall [victim] to Christian charlatans!

  2. Face_The_Truth says:

    World’s Christians have sly personalities.

    World’s Christians believe that, if a lie is always repeated, the lie becomes “Gospel truth”.

    Early Christians wrote their “religious” books and today world’s Christians cite lines and passages from their self-written “religious” books as “historical evidence”.

    World’s Christians adapt to changing social circumstances and utilize technological advancements to fit false Christian narratives.

    For instance, Christianity in Europe was dead against atheist Communists of Soviet Union; but, Christianity is India works hand-in-hand with Indian Communist Party politicians in order to destroy “Hindu” Bharat Rashtra from within.

    So, financially poor and down-trodden “Hindus” of India easily fall victims to Christian charlatans!

    Financially poor and down-trodden “Hindus” of India want financial prosperity in their own lives and, not quite surprisingly, think that past 100 years’ financial wealth as well as technological advancement of North America and Europe is due to the presence of Christianity regardless of many historical evidences to the contrary.

  3. continuum says:

    Ron Says:
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    Watch this video of this Hindu lady who finds that Hindu gods are demons
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    The lady mentions nothing about Hindu Gods at all Ron….I know your feelings are hurt for calling your poor prostitute mary born jeebus as a mamzer aka bastard….

    I am really sorry for hurting your feelings Ron, i am sorry that your feelings are hurt by TRUTH Ron that your man-god is born through adultery of an adulterous whore woman called mary…My deep condolences to your hurt feelings Ron 🙂

  4. continuum says:

    Ron Says:
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    This is what Hindus don’t know about their gods(read false gods)

    Here are the things about Hindu Gods that your parents do not tell you about (if you are a Hindu). Not meant to hurt anyone’s feelings, just to bring the facts to light.
    =========================================

    You must be such a good boy Ron, you do not want to hurt “anyone’s feelings” and that is why you want to insult and write falsehood about Hindu Gods…

    Ron Says:
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    Brahma was the Hindu creator God. He paralleled Zeus in many respects, including the multicolored sex life. He had an incestous relationship with his daughter (my Mother’s explanation being he was the all creator, and had no one else to do it with) but that was perhaps his least sinful act. Some say, because the Gods do not earn Karma, that they are above such acts, and in fact, sin.
    =================================

    You have been already disproven Ron…repeating the same lies does not make LIES as truth. It was already shown from Hindu scriptures that Brahma and Saraswati are eternally husband-wife pairs. Brahma creates her with half of his body. So STOP THE LIES.

    Ron Says:
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    Brahma lusted for a she bear he apparently saw in a forest and Jambu Vandan, the bear headed God was born out of this union. Sukini was born out of Oral copulation with a crow, Mandothari from a frog, and his daughter-wife from, of all things, a lotus.

    http://b1n4rym4g3.blogspot.ca/2006/01/bestiality-in-hinduism.html
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    As usual third rate websites that speak LIES….Poor Ron….I am not here to hurt your feelings Ron….you worship a demon bastard jeebus born through a whore mary….its truth…

    http://www.hindu-blog.com/2015/07/story-of-birth-of-jambavan-bear-in.html

    Four-faced Brahma was afraid of the demons and his middle face began to sweat. The sweat flowed from the cheeks to loins. Jambavan appeared from that sweat.

    None of the stories talk about sex with any bear. These are your LIES as usual bastard corpse worshiper….Ron I am not hurting your feelings here….

  5. Ron says:

    Watch this video of this Hindu lady who finds that Hindu gods are demons

  6. Ron says:

    This is what Hindus don’t know about their gods(read false gods)

    Here are the things about Hindu Gods that your parents do not tell you about (if you are a Hindu). Not meant to hurt anyone’s feelings, just to bring the facts to light.

    Brahma was the Hindu creator God. He paralleled Zeus in many respects, including the multicolored sex life. He had an incestous relationship with his daughter (my Mother’s explanation being he was the all creator, and had no one else to do it with) but that was perhaps his least sinful act. Some say, because the Gods do not earn Karma, that they are above such acts, and in fact, sin.

    Brahma lusted for a she bear he apparently saw in a forest and Jambu Vandan, the bear headed God was born out of this union. Sukini was born out of Oral copulation with a crow, Mandothari from a frog, and his daughter-wife from, of all things, a lotus.

    http://b1n4rym4g3.blogspot.ca/2006/01/bestiality-in-hinduism.html

  7. continuum says:

    CLEAR EVIDENCE THAT MAMZER JEEBUS IS DEMON FROM NT

    1 John 4:2-3

    2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,

    3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

    So basically if a spirit acknowledges Jesus for who he is then that means that the spirit is righteous and on the side of God and doing the works that God is pleased with.

    However, lets look at the following verses…

    Mark 1:23-24

    22 The people were amazed at his teaching, because he taught them as one who had authority, not as the teachers of the law.

    23 Just then a man in their synagogue who was possessed by **an evil spirit cried out**,

    24 “What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? **I know who you are—the Holy One of God!**”

    Mark 3:11-12

    11 Whenever **the evil spirits saw him**, they fell down before him and cried out, **”You are the Son of God.”**

    12 But he gave them strict orders not to tell who he was.

    CLEARLY THE EVIL SPIRITS ACKNOWLEDGE THAT MAMZER JEEBUS IS FROM god….HOWEVER, “Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God” AS PER 1 JOHN..

    CONCLUSION:

    EVIL DEMONS AND EVIL SPIRITS ARE FROM god OF JEEBUS AND THEREFORE BASTARD JEEBUS IS PRINCE OF DEMONS AKA SATAN AKA DEVIL HIMSELF, WHILE JEEBUS’ gOD IS KING OF DEMONS…

    DO YOU NEED MORE EVIDENCE THAT RON THAT YOUR BASTARD JEEBUS IS THE DEVIL HIMSELF. DEMONIC FOLLOWERS ARE TOO STUPID IN WRITING THEIR SCRIPTURES AND REVEAL TRUTH ABOUT DEMONIC NATURE OF THEIR RELIGION UNKNOWINGLY… 🙂

    NO WONDER THIS DEMONIC OT gOD ORDERS MASS RAPE, LOOTING, GENOCIDE ETC.

  8. continuum says:

    Jeebus is satan as per OT:

    Revelation 22:16

    `I, Jesus did send my messenger to testify to you these things concerning the assemblies; I am the root and the offspring of David, the **bright and morning star**!

    http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/15945#showrashi=true

    Isaiah 14:12-15

    12. How have you fallen from heaven, the **morning star**? You have been cut down to earth, You who cast lots on nations.

    13 And you said to yourself, ‘To the heavens will I ascend, above God’s stars will I raise my throne, and I will sit on the mount of the assembly, in the farthest end of the north.

    14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; **I will liken myself to the Most High.**’

    15 But into the nether world shall you be brought down, to the bottom of the pit.

    CLEARLY BOTH JEEBUS AND SATAN ARE CALLED AS **morning star**….

    SATAN CLAIMED HE WILL EQUATE HIMSELF TO GOD BY RAISING HIS THRONE AND DEMON JEEBUS CLAIMED HE WILL SIT BY THE SIDE OF GOD IN HIS THRONE…Demon jeebus also claims equality with god…

  9. continuum says:

    Ron,

    I have shown many times with evidence that jeebus is born through adultery with logical reasoning and evidence from bible itself.

    1. Mamzer jeebus has 9 months gestation period like any other normal child. Why would God who allegedly made adulterous mary pegnant miraculously could not do miracle of making 9 month gestation period disappear? This is a valid question. Why only conception is miraculous, while there are no other miracles in gestation period or mamzer jeebus’ actual birth process?

    Clearly human sperm is involved in conception of adulterous mary leading to her 9 month gestation period for only human sperm leads to 9 months gestation period. This is clear pointer to adultery of mary and illicit birth of jeebus.

    2. Why angels appeared ONLY to Mary face to face and informed her about her conception? Clearly mary weaved a story to hide her illicit sexual contacts..

    3. Why angels did not appear to Joseph earlier and inform him about Mary’s pregnancy? It is after Joseph’s decision to divorce adulterous mary (suspecting her adultery) did angels appear to Joseph and that too ONLY in a dream (NOT face to face)? Why? These claims are clearly suspicious. Joseph simply lied to hide illicit sexual intercourse of mary in order to avoid her getting stoned to death.

    All the above points clearly show that mamzer jeebus was born through adultery ONLY. Only demonic natured souls are born through adultery and even your bible agrees that a mamzer is sinful.

    A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
    — Deuteronomy 23:2

    Clearly, your jeebus is a sinful being born in sin through adultery of his mother mary. Demonic creatures are born through adultery just like demon mamzer jeebus, for the nature of demons is filth and garbage. jeebus nature is as rubbish as sweepings, therefore was born through an adulteress woman mary.

    4. It is said in Hinduism, that sin reduces lifetime of a person day by day and only a perfectly sinless person lives 120 years, full allotted time for a person per life. But wicked people who do great sins, their life is cut short immediately.

    atyutkaTaihi punyapaapaihi ihameva phalamevacha

    Extremely or immense amount of sins or merits are paid in this life only.

    A person who does extreme sins, he pays heavily in this life only.

    The very fact that he died at very young age of 32 through torturous way shows adultery born sinful jeebus is a wicked demonic soul, which even your old testament agrees…Wicked demonic satanic jeebus born to a whore, claimed to be “god” thus paid for his sins…

    Mishlei – Proverbs – Chapter 10

    27 Fear of the Lord will add days, but the years of the wicked will be shortened.

    28 The expectation of the righteous [will result in] joy, but the hope of the wicked shall be lost.

    Even your own bible says that wicked people have their days shortened… Wicked jeebus lived only for 32 years, as he is a wicked demonic soul…

  10. continuum says:

    Now lets see if SUICIDAL RITUAL is consistent with the belief in a perfect almighty God.

    A perfect almighty God can be though of to have the following attributes.

    1. Omniscience
    2. Absolute independence in any act
    3. No defects like human beings have jealousy or making mistakes or being a mental retard or one with mentl disorders.

    Being a perfect almighty God, He is

    1. Sole judge
    2. sole Jury
    3. Sole executioner of punishment and rewards.

    Being so, whom did this God want to convince to forgive his own creation through this ghastly bloody suicidal sacrifice of mamzer jeebus?

    Only Himself.

    So the christian claim is that a perfect almighty God, in order to convince Himself to forgive His own creation, sacrificed allegedly His so called son, the mamzer jeebus to save the humanity from His own judgment.

    Now, I am appalled as to why christians cannot see the stupidity of this claim.

    Here almighty God has to merely suspend His judgment in order to save humanity and yet He demands a suicidal torturous bloody sacrifice to save humanity. Is this God unable to forgive without bloody painful torturous sacrifices? What does it say about this God except He is a sadistic violent fellow. Hence this belief is inconsistent with a belief in a perfect almighty God.

    To trump it, christians believe that mamzer jeebus is also god Himself or equal person with god the father. This is even worse, for here one person of god is satisfied by a bloody suicidal ritual sacrifice of another person of god. Here, the persons of god is shown to be a sado-masochist.

    Sadomasochism is the giving or receiving pleasure from acts involving the receipt or infliction of pain or humiliation.

    Mamzer jeebus is definitely a sado-masochist, for he thinks his torturous death will save others and thereby receives pleasure or satisfaction.

    god the father is also another sado-masochist for he receives satisfaction by giving punishment and inflicting pain to god the son. Thus god the father forgives his own creation after being satisfied through infliting torturous pain and death to his son.

    CLEARLY, THE TRINITY OF CHRISTIANITY IS A SADO-MASOCHIST BUNCH OF THREE…NOT LOGICALLY CONSISTENT WITH A BELIEF IN A PERFECT almighty God.

    HENCE MAMZER JEEBUS’ BELIEF AND CHRISTIAN BELIEF IS ILLOGICAL AND IMPOSSIBLE TO BE TRUE AS IT IS LOGICALLY INCONSISTENT. This proves christianity is a false belief based on suicidal delusional belief of a mental retard mamzer jeebus and no matter how many so called witnesses Ron posts, it still remains a falsehood ONLY.

  11. continuum says:

    THE FOUNDATION OF CHRISTIANITY IS BASED ON SUICIDAL BEHAVIOR..Mamzer jeebus is a suicidal delusional mental retard…

    BOOK Title: “Suicide by Cop: Committing Suicide by Provoking Police to Shoot You”

    Authors: By Mark Lindsay, David Lester

    “Karin Andriolo (1998) has described a number of cultures in which people commit suicide by getting other to kill them…………**This method of committing suicide has been called indirect suicide, vicarious suicide, or masked suicide. Masked suicide is a public performance, and therefore, a public property.** The suicide conforms to the cultural norms and values and thus confirms them. **The suicidal person of this type also does not act impulsively, but rather seeks a cause, and the scenario offers solemnity, symbolism, and purpose. The ritual induces control and calmness in the suicide.**”

    WHAT JEEBUS DID IS INDIRECT SUICIDE AS PER ABOVE DEFINITION. INSTEAD OF SUICIDE BY COP, JEEBUS COMMITTED SUICIDE BY ROMAN SOLDIERS. The symbolism of jeebus’ death is sacrificial lamb, purpose is saving the world from sins…..Jeebus knew he will die and yet did not escape death….This is suicidal behavior clearly…

    GOSPEL VERSES AS EVIDENCE FOR JEEBUS PLANNING SUICIDE FOR LONG TIME

    John 10:15 Young’s Literal Translation

    according as the Father doth know me, and I know the Father, and my life I lay down for the sheep,

    John 10:11

    “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.

    John 10:17

    The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life–only to take it up again.

    John 10:18

    No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”

    THESE VERSES CLEARLY SHOW THAT JEEBUS WAS PLANNING INDIRECT SUICIDE THROUGH RITUAL SACRIFICE, SUICIDE BY ROMAN SOLDIERS. JEEBUS SIMPLY MASKED HIS SUICIDE WITH GRANDIOSE CLAIMS WHICH IS TYPICAL FOR PEOPLE WHO COMMIT INDIRECT SUICIDE.

  12. continuum says:

    Ron Says:
    Millions of Muslims come to Christ some in one evening
    =========================================

    More bull shit, peddling pious christianlies from Ron as usual…I showed before that many of his so called witnesses and converts to christianity are pure lies and that all these converts are nothing short of fraudulent scoundrels….

    Two examples are Srinivas Bhattacharya and so called pandit dharam prakash sharma (allegedly a brahmin convert)…

    Both were shown as fraudster christian missionaries….Srinivas cannot even pronounce correctly simple sanskrit and mistook salutation given to a Vedic teacher as full name of while he is supposed to be a double PhD in Sanskrit…..and the other dharama prakash claimed his father is a priest of Pushkar temple, while it turned out that every priest of Pushkar temple is a lifelong celibate monk….

    CLEARLY EVERY WITNESS LYING FRAUD CON MAN RON POSTS ARE THEMSELVES CON-MEN….

    here will expose jeebus who is the founder com-man-god of these con-men like ron…

    Mamzer jeebus was born to a adulterous woman Mary…Think crustians….your goose-pels say that one night angels appeared face to face (ONLY to Mary and nobody else) and informed her that God made her pregnant. The same goose-pels say when poor old Joseph engaged to adulterous Mary knew about Mary’s illicit pregnancy, he wanted a divorce…Poor old good Joseph wanted to do this silently to save Mary being stoned to death for adultery. Then, Lo and behold, next night, the angels appeared to Joseph in a dream (NOT in reality, ONLY in a dream to joseph, how convenient) and told him that “God” made her pregnant. Really….and then Mary miraculously had 9 months of gestation period (coming to think, what is miraculous in 9 months gestation period, None whatsoever). A “God” who could make adulterous Mary pregnant miraculously without sexual intercourse could somehow not reduce the usual 9 months gestation period miraculously….”God” somehow thought it is a good idea to confuse unbelievers with 9 months gestation period (Elizabeth, mother of John the baptist and Mary had 9 months gestation in one of the goose-pels) which occurs in natural pregnancy through sexual intercourse….Anyway, it was all convenient for “God” to make jeebus’ birth as though it is an adulterous birth of Mamzer jeebus….Now how could one have 9 months gestation period except through fusion of male human sperm and female eggs? Did “God” produce these sperm cells? Did “God” bang bang adulterous Mary? These questions were left open in goose-pels? However, finally “God” thought it is a good idea to torture this adulterous born jeebus to death and satisfy his craving for human blood to forgive his own creation….after all “God” is a mad fellow sitting on a throne with mamzer jeebus on his right side…He got to be mad fellow to do this…

    WHICH CHRISTIAN CAN PROVE it is not adultery?

  13. Ron says:

    Millions of Muslims come to Christ some in one evening

  14. I have read almost all the enlightening debates by respected Dr. Ali Sina. It is for the first time, Shri. Sujit Das, I came across the very nature of Islamic Fatwas. What a plight for Muslims all over the world! May God save these people – if at all ‘He’ exists.

  15. Sujit Das says:

    Hi friends, after looooong time I have started writing again.

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