Supping with the Devil; When religious leaders treat with supporters of Islamism

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  1. Babs says:

    ADDENDUM – I continued researching and found out the following:

    As I have written above, Citizens UK’s foot soldiers are useful idiots who are being manipulated by active supporters of islamism who have links with the Muslim Brotherhood, and who have never recanted much less condemned islamist violence. 

    Citizens UK is also quite shameless and open about their 8 step program for forcing councils to take in more “immigrants”, see http://www.citizensuk.org/8_step_guide , and if anyone has any doubts about the intentions of this nasty lot, you need only look at “… The key aim of your group is to build enough power so that the Council decides that it is better to work with, than oppose you.. “ (emphasis added) in the penultimate sentence of the first paragraph there. Given the islamist/Muslim Brotherhood way of doing things, I would say that the inherent threat in that sentence alone is distinctly sinister.  (What might they do if councils refuse to have anything to do with their “welfare schemes”?) That is a rhetorical question. Given that these are linked with the Muslim Brotherhood, for whom fitna is their stock in trade, you may well be able to guess.

    So, if you live in the UK, if you have real interest in preventing the slide into oblivion which comes from promoting and facilitating islamism by mindless and cowardly government support of egregious organisations like this one, please write to your MP, to Theresa May, and to the Home Secretary, and demand that our taxes are not spent on funding them. This needs to happen sooner rather than later.

    If they are at all true to type, it will not be long before they slip up and then we can complain to the Charities Commission too about their ways of working.

    Please do not ignore this!!

  2. Phoenix says:

    Leftists “tolerance” in action.

    University of New Hampshire Professors Call for Trump Supporters to be Expelled

    If Trump is not your president then it could only be one of the two possible reasons:

    1) You’re a foreigner.
    2) You’re a traitor.

  3. Babs says:

    PS to my latest reply to @ Walter – I have just heard that Ian McLoone has resigned with immediate effect from the Luton UK law firm of which he was a partner.

  4. Babs says:

    @Walter (4.09pm) yes indeed. What you say about the US is already well under way in the UK and the rest of Europe. For example, I wrote in the article about how the Commissioners in Citizens UK have an openly-stated aim to insinuate muslims into every sphere of UK society. This presumably includes the legal profession, although I stress that I have no way of proving that.

    The following makes me wonder, though: You may have heard about the most recent infamy from one Ian McLoone, a partner in a Luton-based law firm here in the UK, in which he publicised on Twitter the address of Tommy Robinson (who, with his wife and family have received death threats because of his openly stated views about islamism, and has what passes for protection from the local police). By broadcasting his address, hitherto kept private, all over the web, McLoone deliberately placed him and his family in danger. Moreover, McLoone was proud of what he had done! This has led to calls for him to be disciplined for conduct unbecoming by an officer of the court.

    As you may know, Luton, UK, is a Salafist hotbed and Tommy Robinson has the misfortune to live there. Robinson is outspoken about the dangers from islam but unlike his muslim opponents has never advocated violence. Because of his outspokenness he often gets into trouble with Bedfordshire Police who probably fear that he is a rallying point for people who see only too clearly what is afoot.

    You can google more about this latest infamy.

  5. Walter Sieruk says:

    @Babs, what you keyboard was interesting to read .you mentioned Brigitte Gabriel. She is the founder and head of the group actforamerica.org .Her book entitled which is entitled THEY MUST BE STOPPED I had read . it also should be remembered the stealth and militant jihadists of Islam have set their sights on all Western nations. Including the UK and the USA. Furthermore, concerning the topic of Muslims now living in the United States of America is the following essay.
    The message needs to be made known to all the Muslims who live in the United States of America who dislike and maybe even despise the US Constitution and would like to replace it with Sharia law. Those same Muslims instead in trying to force Sharia law on American citizens and their nation those are free to leave and really should leave the USA and then go to live in either Shii ‘ite, Iran or Sunni , Saudi Arabia if they actually feel the Sharia law is the grand, great and wonderful .
    Moreover, all this is a strong reminder of the wise words declared by Theodore Roosevelt in a speech. “There can be no fifty –fifty Americanism in this country. There is room here for only one hundred percent Americanism , only for those who are Americans and nothing else.”

  6. Babs says:

    @Walter Sieruk islam is indeed the warp and weft of islamism and its deeds. I quite agree that in the absence of muslims who openly renounce the violence and supremacism of islam, there is little to choose between the political face (islamism) and the observance of its rituals.

    We cannot know, can we, how many muslims actually agree with the barbarism of their fellows, since we rarely hear from them. We should not be held responsible for their cowardice in speaking out and doing what is right. Indeed, Brigitte Gabriel, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYjiSaV5VoE , has called those silent, allegedly moderate muslims irrelevant. In the absence of the same sort of outrage from allegedly moderate muslims as from the likes of us, I agree with her.

  7. Babs says:

    @Danny, thank you.

    Citizens UK is, as someone knowledgeable about them and their modus operandi told me, “an awful organisation.” More awful still, and their behaviour smacks of those who collaborated with the Nazis in WW2, is the behaviour of religious leaders of all stripes who rather than acknowledge the dangers they present to decent people of all faiths everywhere, actually help promote them, not doubt in the probably vain hope that they will escape unharmed if islam gets the power it craves.

  8. Babs says:

    @Face the Truth, hijra, jihad by emigration, is yet another way that muslims emulate their prophet’s behaviour. This is, as you will know, a growing problem in the West, particularly in Europe, where the wilful blindness of leaders allows this to present a great danger to the indigenous population. When religious leaders choose to be blind to those dangers, however, they need to be named and shamed on public fora like this one. Nowhere is it written that we should go silent into the dark night which will ensue unless we speak out and act if necessary.

  9. Face_The_Truth says:

    Muslims migrate to non-Muslim-majority lands to convert non-Muslims into Islamic faith.

    When non-Muslims refuse to convert, Muslims start beheading, raping, murdering, looting, and bombing non-Muslims and non-Muslims’ everything.

  10. Danny says:

    Excellent article, Babs. I have noticed how Citizens UK is worming its way into all sorts of groups and it’s frightening how gullible people are.

  11. Walter Sieruk says:

    Actually there is really no such word as “Islamism” it’s just Islam. The bogus word “Islamism” is a PC artificial word that was made up after 9/11 in order not to give offense to the followers of the religion of Islam who are not violent. The fake word of “Islamism” was fabricated after September 11,2001 and that fake word is not in any reference book on the topic of Islam before the date and day of 9/11. Likewise, the same is true for the false and pretend word “Islamist” that fake word was made up after September 11,2001 for the same reason that the fake word “Islamism” was fabricated after 9/11. Therefore, call things as they really are .For example, it’s wrong to use the term “Islamist terrorist” in contrast is keeping within the bounds of reality to use the term Muslim terrorists.

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