Slay the idolaters….but which idolaters?


ECAW is an Englishman who started looking into Islam after the murder of Fusilier Lee Rigby in 2013....and the more he looked the worse it got.He blogs at ecawblog

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  1. Daryll says:

    From a Koran-only perspective verse 9:5 “slay the idolaters wherever you find them” could conceivably be limited toTHOSE IDOLATERS who “broke their treaties, plotted to expel the messenger and attacked you [the Muslims] first” (9:13) – establishing a general principle of “only fight those idolaters who attack you first”. This interpretation could be supported by other verses like

    Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged… those who have been evicted from their homes without right – only because they say, “Our Lord is Allah .” And were it not that Allah checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of Allah is much mentioned….”

    The main problem with this is that most Muhammadans do not just follow the Qur’an but a raft of extra-Koranic sources which detail how Muhammad, the “perfect example” for all Muslims, spread Islam through force and threats when he became strong enough to do so and, moreover, subscribe to schools of Islamic law partly based on those extra-Qur’anic sources which centuries ago cemented a doctrine of open-ended aggressive war against non-Muslims.

    Furthermore surah 22:40 is followed by “those who, if We establish them in the land,

    [1] establish prayer
    [2] give zakah
    [3] enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong.

    Nothing wrong with the first two, but the last has potential to cause strife. For the “right” and “wrong” that believers are commanded to “enjoin” is “right” and “wrong” AS DEFINED BY ALLAH. If it was just a case of saying “what you are doing is wrong” and leaving it at that all would be well. However there are certain verses that clearly demand a penalty for “wrongdoing” as defined by Allah. Take verse 24.2, which commands ,the “merciless” flogging of adulterers. OK it requires 4 male witnesses to enact
    but, given the unlikely fulfilment of that proviso, the Koran does not limit its applicability in time or location.

    Imagine some Muslims deciding to inflict this punishment in a non-Muslim country where it is illegal to do so and the kuffar law enforcement moved to prevent them. The Muslims would certainly see this as a case of kafirs “hindering” them “from the path of Allah”, which, according to verse 2:217 is sufficient cause for fighting even in the sacred months. The Muslims could then move to “defend themselves” against what they see as an act of aggression against them for simply carrying out the commandments of Allah and the situation could soon spiral out of control.

  2. Walter Sieruk says:

    That al Qaeda jihadist who “mastermind” of the September 11, 2001 those jihad mass murder attacks, Khalid Sheik Mohammad , had confidently declared “We will win because Americans don’t realize …we do not need to defeat you militarily; we only need to fight long enough for you to defeat yourself by quitting.” That arrogant boast of by KSM should serve as a reminder that we, as Americans, need to and should stand firm ,with great fortitude, in this War of Idea’s and struggle against the jihadist who are always busy scheming to engage in mad Islamic quest by the means of the stealth jihad and the violent jihad violent . In other words, the jihadists means the conquest for supreme power and control of Islam over the West,, either by hook or by crook.
    Therefore all, good Americans should maintain a strong vigilant fortitude against Islamic strategies , savagely and tyranny. As Thomas Jefferson had, so well, explained “Fortitude…teaches us to meet and surmount difficulties; not to fly from them.”

    Furthermore, there are still other jihadist chiefs around as on the loose ,as KSM, who are engaged in Islamic scheming to have their jihadist /stooges future Islamic terrorist attack against Americans and America.. Therefore , we ,as Americans , should not live in fear or be afraid to go to difference place and do different things ,yet even though we should feel no fear we should keep aware of our surrounding and be alert for anything that seems not to look quite right. As in “What’s wrong with this picture?” Then if something questionable is seen then it’s important to go and tell the right person about it. As example, In NY.NY a tee-shirt vender saw some smoke come out of a parked van and so he went and informed as police officer about it. As it has been said “If you see something, say something.” To put this in another way, the wise words of Thomas Jefferson apply more now more than those words of wisdom did in his own time. For Mr. Jefferson declared “Let the eye of vigilance never be closed.”

  3. Walter Sieruk says:

    Those heinous and horrible jihad suicide/homicide attacks committed by mind-programmed Muslims, be those murderous jihad attacks occur in Pakistan or Indonesia or in any other nation. For those epidemic type Islamic terror murder attacks are, for a large part, the results of those deceitful and manipulative imams who brainwash even entire families into actually wanting to become human bombs. Those sly and insidious imams, and sometimes the mullahs , with their methods of mind control as well as their lines and lies .As “We will honor you” and “You will go to paradise “ and “We are doing this for Allah.” That’s some very strand kind of “We.” For the reader to should well understand the same Muslim clerics who brainwash other people and then send them out to commit a murderous jihad attack are never, ever the one who do in themselves. They brainwash and just brainwash and manipulate into carrying out those evil and deadly actions. All the while the mass murders are going on those same Muslim clerics sit home safe. This alone show what totally despicable cowardly villains those kind of Muslim clerics actually are. The Bible informs its reader that “The counsels of the wicked are deceitful.” Proverbs 12:5. [K.K.J.V.]