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Real history of Islam in India- Hindus were successful after the 1200-year war with Islam

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  1. Ron says:

    Apartheid by Hindus against Dalits

  2. Ron says:

    Apartheid and Racism in Hinduism
    by Chetan D .

    Many westerners have a romantic view of India and other Hindu countries as the magical land of Maharajas and festivals and colour and ancient castles where Hinduism flourished. A strong association with Yoga and healthy eating also goes a long way in ensuring Hinduism as a religion (or a way of life as it is advertised these days) of joy, harmony and kinship with nature.

    But it is a religion nonetheless and since the number of Hindus around the world is increasing with India becoming more powerful politically and economically, a rather sad and heinous side of one of my former religions needs to be addressed.

    Its roots go back hundreds of years, almost a 1000 years- a time when Hinduism and its influence on politics was at its prime.

    Hindus were originally divided into Varnas. Varna refers to how light or dark your skin is. The priests and those in charge of translating the vast Hindu scriptures (they literally put the rest of the world’s religions to shame in terms of the volume) also happened to be rather light skinned. They called themselves Aryans- a term which has been politically modified in recent terms to designate people whose nose and other facial features are similar regardless of colour.

    Although the term does not have a negative connotation among Hindus any longer, it became the source of the caste system that was to follow. What originally started out as a sharp distinction between light skinned and dark skinned, turned into a society with people of myriad of shades because people started to mix. Although this caused an urgency among upper caste Brahmins, their ability to interpret the scriptures any way they wanted allowed them to create a whole new system- the caste system. A complete societal control was now possible because one could “claim” someone was born into a lower caste because of his karma in his past life (among other retarded reasons).

    Not all Brahmins were supportive of this of course. The Yogis- those detached from everything political and even everyday normal life, vehemently opposed this. But the Brahmins, and their army of Kshatriyas (the ones below the Brahmins- the royal and ruling class) held too much sway.

    What started out a 1000 years ago as a means of political and economic control still goes on today in India. Believe it or not- there is a strong correlation even today among Indians in India who are successful financially and who are light skinned. While it’s not true all the time, it is true MOST of the time- especially in Northern India. Most Bollywood actors and actresses are very light skinned- so much so that blonde white actresses have begun surfacing in the Indian movie Industry.

    Being dark skinned really is a curse. Even today, as this clip below shows, the stark boundaries between the upper class Brahmins and lower classes (and generally dark skinned) Dalits (or untouchables) exists everywhere in India.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuwTgz-LFzo

    Had Sonia Gandhi been a black African, she would never had led the Congress party of India to a political victory. She is Catholic but has accepted Hindu ways of life and is surrounded with Brahmins and upper caste Hindus.

    South Africa gained international notoriety for its treatment of Africans because of the explicit nature of their segregation. The segregation in India and among any Hindu society (even here in Canada or the US) is implicit and rather subtle. Every Hindu is a racist in the sense that they can only marry people of a certain caste- a blatantly racist segregation. Ever since I was a child all I heard around me was the need to want to be fair and beautiful. This commercial of a beauty product says it all.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubbufbkbovY

    The most vicious aspect of Hinduism’s racism comes from one of the most important stories every Hindu child grows up reading: That of Prince Rama of Ayodhya (which is in Northern India) and his rescue of his wife Sita from the hands of the demon God- Ravana. This great story is about victory of good over evil and is far better than any present day super-hero series.

    After Ravana captures Sita and takes her away to Lanka (a direct reference to present day Sri-Lanka), Rama consolidates a large army of monkeys and eventually kills Ravana and his army of Asuras (demons). Ravana himself was an Asura and so was everyone who resided in Lanka. One of the characteristics of the demons is that they’re all dark skinned. Obviously the ancestors of present day Sri Lankans were there 1000 years ago. They’re the same people. The fairy tales of Rama are obviously that- a fairy tale. Yet it is a fiction derived from observations- namely that of the stark contrast in skin colour between the Northern Indian heroes and Sri Lankan vilains. I couldn’t imagine being associated with the “demon people” simply because I am rather dark.

    This inherent apartheid system in Hinduism has at its core the backing of a religious order- a belief system that almost all powerful politicians and businessmen in India subscribe to. This is exactly why India’s fervent religious inclination needs to be uprooted before its growing alliances with another nuclear and equally religious power- Israel, results in some serious crimes against humanity.

    India has 100s of nuclear weapons, produces more engineers than any other country(second only to China) and most of them (even those who immigrate to the US) are strong believers. The religious fever in the US can be dwarfed. A more scientifically literate Hindu society that associates Hinduism with science is almost impossible to change.

    Wake up Indians and Hindus!

    Disclaimer:
    1. I was born into a Brahmin family
    2. I am not from India and have no relatives in India but do have a lot of friends from there
    3. I am “lighter” skinned than most “brown” people (just so you know I am not a grieving about my own situation)

    see the full article at
    http://www.thinkatheist.com/profiles/blogs/apartheid-and-racism-in

  3. Face_The_Truth says:

    [“It is possible that Hindu fanatics must be using some of the ideas to persecute minorities. There is some correlation of hate here. (In Mein Kampf it was directed towards Jews, Gypsies, French and the Bolsheviks (communists) and in India the hate by Hindu fanatics is towards Muslims, Christians, lower castes and communists)…”]

    The above sentences are examples of circular arguments.

    First, we’re told by Christian revisionist story-writers that German Nazis (i.e., Christians) were inspired by “Hindu” religious texts translated by none other than British Christian imperialists and, as a consequence, German Nazis (i.e., Christians) murdered millions of European Jews in gas-chambers by taking inspirations from “Hinduism”.

    When historical research categorically shows that the phenomena of Christians murdering Jews go back far longer than a millennium prior to the translations of “Hindu” religious texts by British Christian imperialists, the Christian revisionist story-writers then take a hundred-eighty-degree turn and tell us Indian “Hindus” are now being inspired by Mein Kampf of German Nazis (i.e., Christians) to “HATE” Muslims and Christians in post-independence India.

    These bizarre circular arguments of Christian revisionist story-writers can only be explained by the fact that first Muslim invaders and, then, second Christian invaders of Indian subcontinent did everything in their nefarious abilities in order to obliterate “Hinduism” (i.e., Sanatana Dharma) from earth by means of mass genocide of Indian “Hindus”, mass plunder of everything of Indian “Hindus”, mass rape of Indian “Hindu” females of all ages, mass discrimination of Indian “Hindus” in work and daily living, and mass conversion of Indian “Hindus” into false religions such as Islam and Christianity for nearly a millennium, but failed.

    Failure to totally annihilate or perpetually dominate non-believers of Islam and Christianity in Indian subcontinent has led both Muslim and Christian revisionist story-tellers into many preposterous circular arguments like German Nazis (i.e., Christians) were inspired “Hinduism” to commit genocide against European Jews and European Gypsies.

  4. Ron says:

    Jews are spread in every country of the world. In fact they are the most widely scattered ethnic group in the world. Jews are in Pakistan, Nepal and Sri Lanka also.

    Mein Kampf selling in India was surprising to me.

    It is possible that Hindu fanatics must be using some of the ideas to persecute minorities. There is some correlation of hate here. (In Mein Kampf it was directed towards Jews, Gypsies, French and the Bolsheviks (communists) and in India the hate by Hindu fanatics is towards Muslims, Christians, lower castes and communists)

  5. Face_The_Truth says:

    “It is not a best-seller in Pakistan, but a best-seller in India?”

    So, why don’t you go to Pakistan along with your all Christian family-members and settle there in order to preach your Jesus Christ to Pakistanian Muslims?

  6. Steve says:

    Ron

    “On the web-link I just noticed that Mein Kampf is a best-seller in India!!
    It is not a best-seller in Pakistan but a best-seller in India?” Hardly a “best seller” – it has sold a 150 thousand copies since it was first published in 1928. In contrast the book sells around 15 thousand per year in the United States and in 2005 in a two month period more copies was sold in Turkey than in almost 90 years in India.

    “Is it because it is connected to hate, Aryans, HInduism?” Or perhaps the nazis hatred of Jews came from the bible and both the Protestant and Catholic Churches preaching anti semitism in Europe for centuries? As “face the truth” pointed out in 2 thousand years of Jews in India never have they been persecuted but they have always been persecuted in Christian and Islamic countries.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_and_the_New_Testament
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_antisemitism
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_India

  7. Ron says:

    On the web-link I just noticed that Mein Kampf is a best-seller in India!!

    It is not a best-seller in Pakistan but a best-seller in India?

    Is it because it is connected to hate, Aryans, HInduism?

    http://indiaopines.com/popularity-of-mein-kampf-in-india/

  8. Face_The_Truth says:

    [Think_Outside_The_Box WROTE: Dear Brother Face the Truth,…]

    I AM NOT YOUR BROTHER IN ANY WAY OR FORM.

    PLUS, THIS IS CYBER-SPACE WHERE COMMUNICATION IS TAKING PLACE AND NO ONE MAY EXACTLY KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL IDENTITY OF A SCREEN-NAME IS.

    [Jesus said to bless your enemies. (returning hurt for hurt can be done by anyone but returning love for hurt makes the difference).]

    NO, YOUR JESUS CHRIST VERY CLEARLY SAID, NO ONE GOES TO HEAVEN WITHOUT HIM.

    AND, THAT MEANT WAR.

    YOUR JESUS CHRIST SAID, IF ANYONE DENIES THAT HE WAS SON OF GOD, THE DENIER GOES STRAIGHT TO HELL.

    AND, THAT MEANT BOTH EXPLOITATION AND GENOCIDE OF NON-BELIEVERS.

    YOUR JESUS CHRIST AND THE “SUPER HOLY” CHRISTIAN CHURCH CONDEMNED NON-BELIEVERS TO ETERNAL HELL AFTER PHYSICALLY ASSAULTING AND BURNING NON-BELIEVERS ALIVE ON EARTH.

    ON THE CONTRARY, BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA SAID:

    सर्वधर्मान्परित्यज्य मामेकं शरणं व्रज |
    अहं त्वां सर्वपापेभ्यो मोक्षयिष्यामि मा शुच: || 66||

    TRANSLATION:
    ABANDON ALL VARIETIES OF RELIGION AND JUST SURRENDER UNTO ME.
    I SHALL DELIVER YOU FROM ALL SINFUL REACTION.
    DO NOT FEAR.

    BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA HAS NEVER SAID, IF ANYONE REFUSES TO BELIEVE IN HIM, THE NON-BELIEVER WILL GO TO HELL.

    BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA HAS NEVER SAID, IF ANYONE REFUSES TO BELIEVE IN GOD, RATHER ONLY BELIEVES IN HER/HIS OWN KARMA, S/HE MUST BE DEEMED A BAD PERSON AND S/HE MUST ENDURE ETERNAL HELL.

    BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA HAS NEVER SAID, IF I BELIEVE IN JAI MA DURGA AND IF I PRAY TO HER BELOVED SON LORD GANESHA (I.E., GANAPATI), BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA WILL BE VERY MUCH OFFENDED FOR MY SINCERE PRAYER TO LORD GANESHA (I.E., GANAPATI).

    LINK

    https://stephenknapp.wordpress.com/2016/09/05/ganesh-by-stephen-knapp/

    [Your bottled up hatred can easily erupt into violence if you follow Krishna (he caused brother to kill brother, grandson to kill grandfather, Mother to allow son to be killed, cheating all for fighting for real estate.)]

    I DO NOT WRITE BOTTLED-UP HATRED.

    I ONLY THINK IT IS PERFECTLY RIGHT AS WELL AS A RELIGIOUS THING TO TREAT THE MUSLIM AND CHRISTIAN INVADERS OF INDIAN SUBCONTINENT EXACTLY THE SAME WAY MUSLIM AND CHRISTIAN INVADERS TREATED CONQUERED INDIAN “HINDUS” AND CAPTURED “HINDU” TEMPLES FOR NEARLY A MILLENNIUM.

    BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA HAS SAID, FIGHT AND KILL YOUR ENEMIES WHO ARE COMING TO MURDER YOU AND FIGHT AND KILL YOUR ENEMIES WHO ARE COMING TO DESTROY YOUR RELIGION.

    BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA DID NOT ASK ANYONE TO MURDER ONE’S FAMILY-MEMBERS.

    IT WAS, RATHER, JEWISH PROPHET MOSES WHO COMMANDED HIS FOLLOWERS TO MURDER EACH OTHER’S FAMILY-MEMBERS FOR THE CRIME OF NOT EXCLUSIVELY WORSHIPING JEWISH GOD JEHOVAH.

    IT WAS CHRISTIAN PROPHET JOSHUA BEN-JOSEPH WHO COMMANDED HIS BLIND FOLLOWERS TO EXPLOIT AND MURDER NON-BELIEVERS BY ESTABLISHING THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH BASED ON LIES AFTER LIES.

    IT WAS ISLAMIC PROPHET MUHAMMAD WHO CONDEMNED HIS OWN BIOLOGICAL MOTHER AND IMMEDIATE FAMILY-MEMBERS WHO INTUITIVELY FIGURED OUT VERY EARLY THAT ISLAM’S FOUNDER MUHAMMAD WAS A CHARLATAN AT BEST.

    SO, TODAY NO ONE NEEDS TO TWIST AND MIS-REPRESENT JEWISH, CHRISTIAN, AND ISLAMIC BARBARISM WITH THE ETERNAL DHARMA OF BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA.

    UNFORTUNATELY, MOST “HINDUS” HAVE NOT READ MAHA-BHARATA IN ENTIRETY AND, THEREFORE, MOST “HINDUS” TODAY CONFLATE AND CONVOLUTE THE ETERNAL TEACHINGS OF BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA AND, AS A RESULT, ROUTINELY CONFUSE COMMON PEOPLE.

    [If Hindu vs Minority (Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, Sikh or Dalit) riots happen near you, then this bottled up hatred will make you kill or hurt (if you have not already committed heinous crimes) fellow human beings (men, women, children and the unborn).]

    DON’T WORRY ABOUT INDIAN “HINDUS” RIOTING AND KILLING MUSLIM AND CHRISTIAN INVADERS OF INDIAN SUBCONTINENT.

    TODAY MOST “HINDUS” HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED BY MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS INTO FALSELY BELIEVING THAT “ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE” AND CHRISTIANITY IS A “RELIGION OF LOVE” WITH ALL BLOODY HISTORICAL EVIDENCES TO THE CONTRARY.

    THERE ARE MANY INDIAN “HINDUS” TODAY WHO HATE THEMSELVES FOR BEING BORN IN SANATANA DHARMA.

    MANY HIGHLY EDUCATED INDIAN “HINDUS” LIVING IN AMERICA AND EUROPE HAVE TOLD ME THROUGHOUT MY PROFESSIONAL CAREER(S) THAT “HINDUISM” IS (WAS) BASED ON ALL MEANINGLESS SUPERSTITIONS AND IF INDEPENDENT INDIA WANTS (WANTED) TO IMPROVE ITS SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC CONDITIONS, THE INDEPENDENT INDIA HAS (HAD) TO DIVORCE ITSELF FROM “HINDUISM”!!!

    BUT, THOSE SAME HIGHLY EDUCATED INDIAN “HINDUS” LIVING IN AMERICA AND EUROPE HAVE NEVER EVER TOLD ME THAT ISLAM IS (WAS) BASED ON A GENOCIDAL IDEOLOGY AND CHRISTIANITY IS (WAS) BASED ON GROSS PERVERSIONS OF HUMAN DECENCY.

    SO, ALL MY READERS CAN VERY EASILY UNDERSTAND, MANY INDIAN “HINDUS” HATE THEMSELVES MORE THAN THEY COULD POSSIBLY DESPISE BARBARIAN MUSLIMS AND CHARLATAN CHRISTIANS OF TODAY.

    [This happened in Rwanda. Please see the movie Hotel Rwanda or the documentaries on Rwandan Genocide.]

    INDIA IS NOT RWANDA.

    INDIA IS NOT BURUNDI.

    [The Nazis learnt racism, discrimination, occult etc from the Hindu Sacred Texts.]

    FALSE STATEMENT.

    NAZI LEADERS WERE BORN AND BROUGHT UP IN CHRISTIANITY.

    SINCE INCEPTION, CHRISTIANITY DESPISED JEWS FOR NOT ACCEPTING THE CULT-WORSHIP OF JOSHUA BEN-JOSEPH AS THE SON OF GOD.

    JEWS KNEW (KNOW) THAT JOSHUA BEN-JOSEPH WAS NEVER A SON OF GOD.

    SO, JEWS DID NOT PAY RESPECT TO CHRISTIAN FALSEHOODS.

    THAT WAS THE REAL REASON WHY CHURCH-GOER NAZIS DECIDED TO MURDER ALL JEWS OF EUROPE.

    CHURCH-GOER NAZIS ALSO MURDERED EUROPEAN GYPSIES WHO WERE THE MIGRATORY “HINDUS” FLED FROM THEIR HOMELANDS AFTER THE ADVENT OF ISLAMIC GENOCIDAL RAMPAGE ON NON-BELIEVERS.

    CHRISTIANITY HAS MURDEROUS TENETS IN IT AND THAT’S WHY CHRISTIANS TREATED NON-BELIEVERS WITH BOTH CONTEMPT AND CONDEMNATION.

    ‘THE HOLOCAUST DID NOT COME OUT OF NOWHERE.

    IT WAS NOT A RANDOM CHOICE THAT THE JEWS WERE SELECTED AS THE TARGETS.

    THE HOLOCAUST WAS THE CLIMAX OF A THOUSAND YEARS OF KILLING AND PERSECUTION BY THE CHRISTIANS.

    IN 1215 A.D. THE FOURTH LATERAN COUNCIL, UNDER POPE INNOCENT III (THE BUTCHER OF THE CATHARS) FIRST FORCED THE JEWS TO WEAR YELLOW BADGES.

    THIS IDEA OF WEARING YELLOW BADGES WAS LATER TAKEN UP AGAIN BY THE NAZIS.

    THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH CANONISED MANY “SAINTS” WHO WERE SUPPOSEDLY “MARTYRED” BY THE JEWS IN “RITUAL MURDER” (TO OBTAIN CHRISTIAN BLOOD FOR THEIR CAKES, OR SOMETHING).

    THE REFORMATION MAY HAVE BEEN A GREAT STEP FORWARD TO THE MODERN SECULAR WORLD, BUT CHRISTIAN REFORMIST MARTIN LUTHER WAS A VILE ANTI-SEMITE.’

    “IN TWO OF HIS LATER WORKS, MARTIN LUTHER EXPRESSED ANTAGONISTIC VIEWS TOWARD JEWS, WRITING THAT JEWISH HOMES AND SYNAGOGUES SHOULD BE DESTROYED, THEIR MONEY CONFISCATED, AND LIBERTY CURTAILED.”

    LINK

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther

    ‘BY THE PAPAL BULL CUM NIMIS ABSURDUM (1555 A.D.), POPE PAUL IV FORCED THE JEWS OF ROME TO LIVE IN A GHETTO.

    GHETTOS FOR OTHER ITALIAN CITIES FOLLOWED.

    THE CATHOLIC CHURCH FORCED THE JEWS OF ROME TO LIVE IN A GHETTO FROM 1555 A.D. TO 1870 A.D.

    THERE IS OF COURSE A DIRECT LINE TRACEABLE FROM THE MEDIEVAL JEW-BURNING THROUGH TO THE MODERN HOLOCAUST.

    IN NO WAY CAN WE SAY THAT THE HOLOCAUST CAN BE ENTIRELY DIVORCED AND SEPARATED FROM CHRISTIANITY.’

    LINK

    http://markhumphrys.com/judaism.html#old.anti.semitism

    SO, IN MY VERY HUMBLE OPINION, CHRISTIAN CHURCH CAN TRY TO RUN FROM ITS HISTORIC CRIMES AGAINST JEWS BY FALSELY BLAMING INDIAN “HINDUS” FOR THE SYSTEMATIC AND INSTITUTIONALIZED CHRISTIAN WAR-CRIMES IN HISTORY, BUT CHRISTIAN CHURCH CANNOT HIDE ITS BLOODY HANDS FROM THE SIMPLE HISTORICAL TRUTH OF CHRISTIANS MURDERING JEWS.

    [Dr. Goebbels used this art of rewriting history, indoctrination through Public School education…]

    DR. PAUL JOSEPH GOEBBELS WAS A DEVOUT CHRISTIAN AS USAMAH BIN LADEN WAS A DEVOUT MUSLIM.

    DR. PAUL JOSEPH GOEBBELS FOLLOWED MILLENNIUM-OLD CHRISTIAN TRADITION OF MURDERING JEWS, BECAUSE JEWS NEVER ACCEPTED NOR BELIEVED THAT JOSHUA BEN-JOSEPH WAS ANYTHING BUT A SON OF A WHORE.

    “HINDU” SCRIPTURES HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH CHRISTIAN TRADITION OR CHRISTIAN HISTORY OF MURDERING JEWS.

    BUT NOW, NAZI GERMANY WAS DEFEATED LIKE CHRISTIAN CHURCH WAS DEFEATED DURING THE FRENCH REVOLUTION, CHRISTIAN CHURCH IS BUSY REVITALIZING ITS “IMAGE OF LOVE AND COMPASSION AND MERCY” BY FALSELY BLAMING INDIAN “HINDU” RELIGIOUS SCRIPTURES FOR CHRISTIAN WAR-CRIMES.

    IN MY OBJECTIVE OBSERVATION, CHRISTIAN CHURCH WAS BORN WITH FALSEHOODS, TODAY CHRISTIAN CHURCH LIVES THROUGH FALSEHOODS AND, GOD WILLING, CHRISTIAN CHURCH WILL ONE DAY DIE FOR FALSEHOODS.

    [(These anti-Christian Nazis closed all Christian and Catholic schools so that they could indoctrinate the German school kids with Nazism derived from Hinduism)]

    NAZIS WERE CHRISTIANS.

    NAZIS DERIVED AND PLANNED THEIR MURDEROUS RAMPAGE ON JEWS AND GYPSIES OUT OF THEIR SHEER DEVOTION TO JESUS CHRIST.

    NAZI GERMANY’S SCHOOL TEXT-BOOKS DID NOT TEACH MAHA-BHARATA.

    [Read this article written by a Hindu Deepti Verma
    http://indiaopines.com/is-hinduism-responsible-for-hitler-himmler-war-crimes/%5D

    TO ALL MY READERS:

    I AM ASKING YOU TO READ MY FOLLOWING SENTENCES VERY CAREFULLY EVEN IF YOU DISCARD EVERYTHING THAT I’VE WRITTEN BEFORE — WASTING SO MUCH OF MY PRECIOUS WORK-TIME!!!

    THE SCREEN-NAME THINK_OUTSIDE_THE_BOX INCLUDED EVERYTHING THAT AUTHOR DEEPTI VERMA WROTE — WHICH FALSELY SUPPORTED SCREEN-NAME THINK_OUTSIDE_THE_BOX’S PRE-CONCEIVED REVISIONIST THEORY OF “HINDU” RELIGIOUS IDEOLOGIES RESPONSIBLE FOR GENOCIDE OF EUROPEAN JEWS (I.E., SEMITES) AND EUROPEAN GYPSIES (I.E., NOMADIC OR EXILED “HINDUS” FROM MUSLIM-INVADED LANDS).

    BUT, THE SCREEN-NAME THINK_OUTSIDE_THE_BOX DELIBERATELY DID NOT INCLUDE THE LAST TWO LINES OF DEEPTI VERMA:

    ‘MY FINAL QUESTION TO THESE WESTERNERS WHO ARE BLAMING “HINDUISM” FOR THE CRUELTY OF NAZI LEADERS, MY NEIGHBOR IS A STERN BELIEVER OF CHRISTIANITY AND READS VERSES FROM THE BIBLE EVERY WEEK.

    HOWEVER, HE IS A HOOLIGAN, AND A NUISANCE TO EVERYBODY — NOW WHO IS TO BE BLAMED, MY NEIGHBOR OR THE BIBLE THAT HE READS?’

  9. Face_The_Truth says:

    [Think_Outside_The_Box WROTE: Dear Brother Face the Truth,…]

    I AM NOT YOUR BROTHER IN ANY WAY OR FORM.

    PLUS, THIS IS CYBER-SPACE WHERE COMMUNICATION IS TAKING PLACE AND NO ONE MAY EXACTLY KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL IDENTITY OF A SCREEN-NAME IS.

    [Jesus said to bless your enemies. (returning hurt for hurt can be done by anyone but returning love for hurt makes the difference).]

    NO, YOUR JESUS CHRIST VERY CLEARLY SAID, NO ONE GOES TO HEAVEN WITHOUT HIM.

    AND, THAT MEANT WAR.

    YOUR JESUS CHRIST SAID, IF ANYONE DENIES THAT HE WAS SON OF GOD, S/HE GOES STRAIGHT TO HELL.

    AND, THAT MEANT BOTH EXPLOITATION AND GENOCIDE OF NON-BELIEVERS.

    YOUR JESUS CHRIST AND THE “SUPER HOLY” CHRISTIAN CHURCH CONDEMNED NON-BELIEVERS TO ETERNAL HELL AFTER PHYSICALLY ASSAULTING AND BURNING NON-BELIEVERS ALIVE ON EARTH.

    ON THE CONTRARY, BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA SAID:

    सर्वधर्मान्परित्यज्य मामेकं शरणं व्रज |
    अहं त्वां सर्वपापेभ्यो मोक्षयिष्यामि मा शुच: || 66||

    TRANSLATION:
    ABANDON ALL VARIETIES OF RELIGION AND JUST SURRENDER UNTO ME.
    I SHALL DELIVER YOU FROM ALL SINFUL REACTION.
    DO NOT FEAR.

    BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA HAS NEVER SAID, IF ANYONE REFUSES TO BELIEVE IN HIM, THE NON-BELIEVER WILL GO TO HELL.

    BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA HAS NEVER SAID, IF ANYONE REFUSES TO BELIEVE IN GOD, RATHER ONLY BELIEVES IN HER/HIS OWN KARMA, S/HE MUST BE DEEMED A BAD PERSON AND S/HE MUST ENDURE ETERNAL HELL.

    BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA HAS NEVER SAID, IF I BELIEVE IN JAI MA DURGA AND IF I PRAY TO HER BELOVED SON LORD GANESHA (I.E., GANAPATI), BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA WILL BE VERY MUCH OFFENDED FOR MY SINCERE PRAYER TO LORD GANESHA (I.E., GANAPATI).

    LINK

    https://stephenknapp.wordpress.com/2016/09/05/ganesh-by-stephen-knapp/

    [Your bottled up hatred can easily erupt into violence if you follow Krishna (he caused brother to kill brother, grandson to kill grandfather, Mother to allow son to be killed, cheating all for fighting for real estate.)]

    I DO NOT WRITE BOTTLED-UP HATRED.

    I ONLY THINK IT IS PERFECTLY RIGHT AS WELL AS A RELIGIOUS THING TO TREAT THE MUSLIM AND CHRISTIAN INVADERS OF INDIAN SUBCONTINENT EXACTLY THE SAME WAY MUSLIM AND CHRISTIAN INVADERS TREATED CONQUERED INDIAN “HINDUS” AND “HINDU” TEMPLES FOR NEARLY A MILLENNIUM.

    BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA SAID, FIGHT AND KILL YOUR ENEMIES WHO ARE COMING TO MURDER YOU.

    BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA DID NOT ASK ANYONE TO MURDER ONE’S FAMILY-MEMBERS.

    IT WAS, RATHER, JEWISH PROPHET MOSES WHO COMMANDED HIS FOLLOWERS TO MURDER EACH OTHER’S FAMILY-MEMBERS FOR THE CRIME OF NOT EXCLUSIVELY WORSHIPING JEWISH GOD JEHOVAH.

    IT WAS CHRISTIAN PROPHET JOSHUA BEN-JOSEPH WHO COMMANDED HIS BLIND FOLLOWERS TO EXPLOIT AND MURDER NON-BELIEVERS BY ESTABLISHING THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH BASED ON LIES AFTER LIES.

    IT WAS ISLAMIC PROPHET MUHAMMAD WHO CONDEMNED HIS OWN BIOLOGICAL MOTHER AND IMMEDIATE FAMILY-MEMBERS WHO INTUITIVELY FIGURED OUT VERY EARLY THAT ISLAM’S FOUNDER MUHAMMAD WAS A CHARLATAN AT BEST.

    SO, TODAY NO ONE NEEDS TO TWIST AND MIS-REPRESENT JEWISH, CHRISTIAN, AND ISLAMIC BARBARISM WITH THE ETERNAL DHARMA OF BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA.

    UNFORTUNATELY, MOST “HINDUS” HAVE NOT READ MAHA-BHARATA IN ENTIRETY AND, THEREFORE, MOST “HINDUS” TODAY CONFLATE AND CONVOLUTE THE ETERNAL TEACHINGS OF BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA AND, AS A RESULT, ROUTINELY CONFUSE COMMON PEOPLE.

    [If Hindu vs Minority (Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, Sikh or Dalit) riots happen near you, then this bottled up hatred will make you kill or hurt (if you have not already committed heinous crimes) fellow human beings (men, women, children and the unborn).]

    DON’T WORRY ABOUT INDIAN “HINDUS” RIOTING AND KILLING MUSLIM AND CHRISTIAN INVADERS OF INDIAN SUBCONTINENT.

    TODAY MOST “HINDUS” HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED INTO FALSELY BELIEVING THAT “ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE” AND CHRISTIANITY IS A “RELIGION OF LOVE” WITH ALL BLOODY HISTORICAL EVIDENCES TO THE CONTRARY.

    THERE ARE MANY INDIAN “HINDUS” TODAY WHO HATE THEMSELVES FOR BEING BORN IN SANATANA DHARMA.

    MANY HIGHLY EDUCATED INDIAN “HINDUS” LIVING IN AMERICA AND EUROPE HAVE TOLD ME THROUGHOUT MY PROFESSIONAL CAREER(S) THAT “HINDUISM” IS (WAS) BASED ON ALL MEANINGLESS SUPERSTITIONS AND IF INDEPENDENT INDIA WANTS (WANTED) TO IMPROVE ITS SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC CONDITIONS, THE INDEPENDENT INDIA HAS (HAD) TO DIVORCE ITSELF FROM “HINDUISM”!!!

    BUT, THOSE SAME HIGHLY EDUCATED INDIAN “HINDUS” LIVING IN AMERICA AND EUROPE HAVE NEVER EVER TOLD ME THAT ISLAM IS (WAS) BASED ON A GENOCIDAL IDEOLOGY AND CHRISTIANITY IS (WAS) BASED ON GROSS PERVERSIONS OF HUMAN DECENCY.

    SO, ALL MY READERS CAN VERY EASILY UNDERSTAND, MANY INDIAN “HINDUS” HATE THEMSELVES MORE THAN THEY COULD POSSIBLY DESPISE BARBARIAN MUSLIMS AND CHARLATAN CHRISTIANS OF TODAY.

    [This happened in Rwanda. Please see the movie Hotel Rwanda or the documentaries on Rwandan Genocide.]

    INDIA IS NOT RWANDA.

    INDIA IS NOT BURUNDI.

    [The Nazis learnt racism, discrimination, occult etc from the Hindu Sacred Texts.]

    FALSE STATEMENT.

    NAZI LEADERS WERE BORN AND BROUGHT UP IN CHRISTIANITY.

    SINCE INCEPTION, CHRISTIANITY DESPISED JEWS FOR NOT ACCEPTING THE CULT-WORSHIP OF JOSHUA BEN-JOSEPH AS THE SON OF GOD.

    JEWS KNEW (KNOW) THAT JOSHUA BEN-JOSEPH WAS NEVER A SON OF GOD.

    SO, JEWS DID NOT PAY RESPECT TO CHRISTIAN FALSEHOODS.

    THAT WAS THE REAL REASON WHY CHURCH-GOER NAZIS DECIDED TO MURDER ALL JEWS OF EUROPE.

    CHURCH-GOER NAZIS ALSO MURDERED EUROPEAN GYPSIES WHO WERE THE MIGRATORY “HINDUS” FLED FROM THEIR HOMELANDS AFTER THE ADVENT OF ISLAMIC GENOCIDAL RAMPAGE ON NON-BELIEVERS.

    CHRISTIANITY HAS MURDEROUS TENETS IN IT AND THAT’S WHY CHRISTIANS TREATED NON-BELIEVERS WITH BOTH CONTEMPT AND CONDEMNATION.

    “THE HOLOCAUST DID NOT COME OUT OF NOWHERE.

    IT WAS NOT A RANDOM CHOICE THAT THE JEWS WERE SELECTED AS THE TARGETS.

    THE HOLOCAUST WAS THE CLIMAX OF A THOUSAND YEARS OF KILLING AND PERSECUTION BY THE CHRISTIANS.

    IN 1215 A.D. THE FOURTH LATERAN COUNCIL, UNDER POPE INNOCENT III (THE BUTCHER OF THE CATHARS) FIRST FORCED THE JEWS TO WEAR YELLOW BADGES.

    THIS IDEA OF WEARING YELLOW BADGES WAS LATER TAKEN UP AGAIN BY THE NAZIS.

    THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH CANONISED MANY “SAINTS” WHO WERE SUPPOSEDLY “MARTYRED” BY THE JEWS IN “RITUAL MURDER” (TO OBTAIN CHRISTIAN BLOOD FOR THEIR CAKES, OR SOMETHING).

    THE REFORMATION MAY HAVE BEEN A GREAT STEP FORWARD TO THE MODERN SECULAR WORLD, BUT CHRISTIAN REFORMIST MARTIN LUTHER WAS A VILE ANTI-SEMITE.”

    “IN TWO OF HIS LATER WORKS, MARTIN LUTHER EXPRESSED ANTAGONISTIC VIEWS TOWARD JEWS, WRITING THAT JEWISH HOMES AND SYNAGOGUES SHOULD BE DESTROYED, THEIR MONEY CONFISCATED, AND LIBERTY CURTAILED.”

    LINK

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther

    “BY THE PAPAL BULL CUM NIMIS ABSURDUM (1555 A.D.), POPE PAUL IV FORCED THE JEWS OF ROME TO LIVE IN A GHETTO.

    GHETTOS FOR OTHER ITALIAN CITIES FOLLOWED.

    THE CATHOLIC CHURCH FORCED THE JEWS OF ROME TO LIVE IN A GHETTO FROM 1555 A.D. TO 1870 A.D.

    THERE IS OF COURSE A DIRECT LINE TRACEABLE FROM THE MEDIEVAL JEW-BURNING THROUGH TO THE MODERN HOLOCAUST.

    IN NO WAY CAN WE SAY THAT THE HOLOCAUST CAN BE ENTIRELY DIVORCED AND SEPARATED FROM CHRISTIANITY.”

    LINK

    http://markhumphrys.com/judaism.html#old.anti.semitism

    SO, IN MY VERY HUMBLE OPINION, CHRISTIAN CHURCH CAN TRY TO RUN FROM ITS HISTORIC CRIMES AGAINST JEWS BY FALSELY BLAMING INDIAN “HINDUS” FOR THE SYSTEMATIC AND INSTITUTIONALIZED CHRISTIAN WAR-CRIMES IN HISTORY, BUT CHRISTIAN CHURCH CANNOT HIDE ITS BLOODY HANDS FROM THE SIMPLE HISTORICAL TRUTH OF CHRISTIANS MURDERING JEWS.

    [Dr. Goebbels used this art of rewriting history, indoctrination through Public School education …]

    DR. PAUL JOSEPH GOEBBELS WAS A DEVOUT CHRISTIAN AS USAMAH BIN LADEN WAS A DEVOUT MUSLIM.

    DR. PAUL JOSEPH GOEBBELS FOLLOWED MILLENNIUM-OLD CHRISTIAN TRADITION OF MURDERING JEWS, BECAUSE JEWS NEVER ACCEPTED NOR BELIEVED THAT JOSHUA BEN-JOSEPH WAS ANYTHING BUT A SON OF A WHORE.

    “HINDU” SCRIPTURES HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH CHRISTIAN TRADITION OR CHRISTIAN HISTORY OF MURDERING JEWS.

    BUT NOW, NAZI GERMANY WAS DEFEATED LIKE CHRISTIAN CHURCH WAS DEFEATED DURING THE FRENCH REVOLUTION, CHRISTIAN CHURCH IS BUSY REVITALIZING ITS “IMAGE OF LOVE AND COMPASSION AND MERCY” BY FALSELY BLAMING INDIAN “HINDU” RELIGIOUS SCRIPTURES FOR CHRISTIAN WAR-CRIMES.

    IN MY OBJECTIVE OBSERVATION, CHRISTIAN CHURCH WAS BORN WITH FALSEHOODS, TODAY CHRISTIAN CHURCH LIVES THROUGH FALSEHOODS AND, GOD WILLING, CHRISTIAN CHURCH WILL ONE DAY DIE FOR FALSEHOODS.

    [(These anti-Christian Nazis closed all Christian and Catholic schools so that they could indoctrinate the German school kids with Nazism derived from Hinduism)]

    NAZIS WERE CHRISTIANS.

    NAZIS DERIVED AND PLANNED THEIR MURDEROUS RAMPAGE ON JEWS AND GYPSIES OUT OF THEIR SHEER DEVOTION TO JESUS CHRIST.

    NAZI GERMANY’S SCHOOL TEXT-BOOKS DID NOT TEACH MAHA-BHARATA.

    [Read this article written by a Hindu Deepti Verma
    http://indiaopines.com/is-hinduism-responsible-for-hitler-himmler-war-crimes/%5D

    TO ALL MY READERS:

    I AM ASKING YOU TO READ MY FOLLOWING SENTENCES VERY CAREFULLY EVEN IF YOU DISCARD EVERYTHING THAT I’VE WRITTEN BEFORE — WASTING SO MUCH OF MY PRECIOUS WORK-TIME!!!

    THE SCREEN-NAME THINK_OUTSIDE_THE_BOX INCLUDED EVERYTHING THAT AUTHOR DEEPTI VERMA WROTE — WHICH FALSELY SUPPORTED SCREEN-NAME THINK_OUTSIDE_THE_BOX’S PRE-CONCEIVED REVISIONIST THEORY OF “HINDU” RELIGIOUS IDEOLOGIES RESPONSIBLE FOR GENOCIDE OF EUROPEAN JEWS (I.E., SEMITES) AND EUROPEAN GYPSIES (I.E., NOMADIC OR EXILED “HINDUS” FROM MUSLIM-INVADED LANDS).

    BUT, THE SCREEN-NAME THINK_OUTSIDE_THE_BOX DELIBERATELY DID NOT INCLUDE THE LAST TWO LINES OF DEEPTI VERMA:

    ‘MY FINAL QUESTION TO THESE WESTERNERS WHO ARE BLAMING “HINDUISM” FOR THE CRUELTY OF NAZI LEADERS, MY NEIGHBOR IS A STERN BELIEVER OF CHRISTIANITY AND READS VERSES FROM THE BIBLE EVERY WEEK.

    HOWEVER, HE IS A HOOLIGAN, AND A NUISANCE TO EVERYBODY — NOW WHO IS TO BE BLAMED, MY NEIGHBOR OR THE BIBLE THAT HE READS?’

  10. Think outside the box says:

    Dear Brother Face the Truth,

    Jesus said to bless your enemies. (returning hurt for hurt can be done by anyone but returning love for hurt makes the difference).

    Your bottled up hatred can easily erupt into violence if you follow Krishna (he caused brother to kill brother, grandson to kill grandfather, Mother to allow son to be killed, cheating all for fighting for real estate.)

    If Hindu vs Minority (Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, Sikh or Dalit) riots happen near you, then this bottled up hatred will make you kill or hurt (if you have not already committed heinous crimes) fellow human beings (men, women, children and the unborn). This happened in Rwanda . Please see the movie Hotel Rwanda or the documentaries on Rwandan Genocide.

    The Nazis learnt racism, discrimination, occult etc from the Hindu Sacred Texts. Dr Goebells used this art of rewriting history, indoctrination through Public School education (These anti-Christian Nazis closed all Christian and Catholic schools so that they could indoctrinate the German school kids with Nazism derived from Hinduism)

    Read this article written by a Hindu Deepti Verma

    http://indiaopines.com/is-hinduism-responsible-for-hitler-himmler-war-crimes/
    Hinduism, one of the oldest religions of mankind has influenced many other religion of the world including Buddhism and new age thought such as Multikulti. Nazism was just one more in the long line of its adaptation. The reason – Well, the Nazi fascination towards the glory of ancient India!
    The connection however, was not directly between Hinduism and Adolf Hitler unlike the common perception but through his senior commander, “Heinrich Himmler” who was a firm believer of Hinduism. Enthralled with ancient texts including Rig Veda and Upanishadas, the general even carried Bhagwad Gita in his pocket.

    There are claims put forward by the world that Heinrich’s belief in the Hindu text is a reason for the Nazi massacre? Well here’s my take –

    First and foremost, the Nazis were extremely racists who considered themselves superior and killed the ones, who according to them were inferiors especially the Romas – Gypsies. Wasn’t this caste system peculiar in India from ages? Wasn’t the Aryans, the fair-skinned and considered superior from the Dravidians, the black skinned? Further, didn’t we follow the practice of dejecting the Chandala – The Untouchables from ages? The Nazis followed the cultures of India and racism in Hinduism could be one of the reasons for the brutality towards Jews and non Germans which the Nazis learnt from our negativity.

    However, if the westerners believe that this thought of Racism came in the Nazi mind all because of us, then it’s not at all true – The Western world too from a long period of time followed racial discrimination intensely. Then why blame us and only us?
    Next, while Hinduism is all about non violence and brotherhood, there are portions which portray martial aspects in our ancient text when it comes to kshatriya clan, the ancient Indian warrior caste. And it is quite obvious, going by the Nazi ideology that if they ever followed anything from the Hindus, it was the Kshatriya ideology. But, how are we to be blame when they misunderstood the entire concept given by us?

    In his famous speech of Posener, Heinrich pressured that if the fortune of the country calls, then it is the duty of every associate of the SS to carry out extreme measures harshly, without pity and without considering the friendship or blood relationships. This was again influenced by the spirit of Bhagavad Gita where Krishna instructs Arjuna to attack his kin and kill them.

    Further, Himmler assured his addressees – “The deeds do not impose any harm on our souls, inner selves, or our characters.” He mentioned just the way Krishna assured Arjuna that his acts would not poison his higher self by carrying out his deadly duty. Thus, Himmler, the general could encourage the SS members to conduct their brutal acts, coldly in an unemotionally detached manner in the same manner as Krishna coached the charioteer Arjuna.

  11. Face_The_Truth says:

    [Ron_the_Christian_M*****F***** wrote:

    Indian writings furnished them with the religious bases for a cruel warrior religion and an inhuman ethic for the conduct of war.]

    NOW, LET’S LOOK INTO BRITISH CHRISTIAN CRUELTY ON AN INDIAN “HINDU” PRISONER NAMED SURYA SEN:

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    BEFORE SURYA SEN WAS HANGED, HE WAS BRUTALLY TORTURED BY THE BRITISH CHRISTIAN IMPERIALISTS.

    THE BRITISH CHRISTIAN EXECUTIONERS BROKE ALL HIS TEETH WITH A HAMMER, AND PULLED OUT ALL HIS NAILS.

    BRITISH CHRISTIAN IMPERIALISTS BROKE ALL HIS LIMBS AND JOINTS.

    SURYA SEN WAS DRAGGED TO THE ROPE UNCONSCIOUS BEFORE OFFICIAL HANGING TOOK PLACE.

    BRITISH CHRISTIAN IMPERIALISTS THEN TOOK THE DEAD BODY OF SURYA SEN ON A BRITISH CHRISTIAN MILITARY VESSEL AND THREW THE DEAD BODY OF SURYA SEN INTO THE BAY OF BENGAL SO THAT SURYA SEN WOULD NEVER RECEIVE A “HINDU” RELIGIOUS CREMATION (I.E., DELIVERING THE DEAD BODY TO GOD AGNI: SANSKRIT अग्नि).

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    LOOKS LIKE CHRISTIAN LIARS ARE VERY MERCIFUL IN THEIR WARRIOR-ACTIONS!!!

    LOOKS LIKE RON_THE_CHRISTIAN_M*****F***** WANTS INDIAN “HINDUS” TO FORGET AND DENY BLOODY CHRISTIAN BRUTALITIES IN THE PAST BY REPEATEDLY POSTING REVISIONIST CHRISTIAN STORY-WRITERS — VICTOR & VICTORIA (I.E., DUMB & DUMBER).

  12. Face_The_Truth says:

    [Please read the book to know how the Nazis used Hindu scriptures for their evil practices.]

    NAZIS MURDERED JEWS AND GYPSIES STRICTLY FOLLOWING THE OLD AND THE NEW TESTAMENTS.

    NO AMOUNT OF CHRISTIAN REVISIONISM TODAY WILL CHANGE THAT HISTORICAL FACT.

    “HINDUISM” DOES NOT BELIEVE IN ARYAN RACE.

    “ARYAN RACE” WAS THE INVENTION OF CHRISTIANS.

    [You seem to have read revisionist history which further indoctrinates you with hatred.]

    YOU CHRISTIAN MOTH**F***ERS ARE CONGENITAL LIARS.

    I DO NOT READ FALSE STORIES WRITTEN BY THE WORST SCUMS ON EARTH –VICTOR AND VICTORIA TRIMONDI.

    ANYONE JUST READING THE NAMES “VICTOR AND VICTORIA TRIMONDI” WILL FIND SIMILARITIES IN THE NAMES “DUMB & DUMBER”!!!

    ALL LITERATE CHRISTIANS SHOULD READ THE FOLLOWING BOOKS:

    Every literate Christian should read the following books in order to understand Christianity very properly in historical contexts.

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    William Benjamin Smith, “Ecce Deus: Studies of Primitive Christianity”, London, 1912

    l. Gordon Rylands, “Did Jesus Ever Live?”, Watts & Co., London, 1929

    Will Durant, “The Story of Civilization, Part III, Caesar and Christ”, Fourth Printing, New York, 1944

    Paul Johnson, “A History of Christianity”, Penguin Books, London, 1978

    Michael Arnhem, “Is Christianity True?”, London, 1984

    George Albert Wells, “Did Jesus Exist?”, Second Edition, London, 1986

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    LINK

    http://infidels.org/library/modern/keith_parsons/whynotchristian.html

    LINK

    http://markhumphrys.com/christianity.killings.html

    LINK

    http://www.i4m.com/think/bible/historical_jesus.htm

    LINK

    http://www.drabruzzi.com/ZINDLER-JESUS.PDF

    LINK

    https://orphicplatonism.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/jesus-christ-an-artifice-for-aggression-by-sita-ram-goel.pdf

    [It is difficult but you have to always stand on principles of absolute morality of right and wrong.]

    COMMITTING SUICIDE IS NOT A PRINCIPLE OF ABSOLUTE MORALITY.

    SILENTLY ACCEPTING ISLAM WITHOUT FIGHTING AND KILLING MUSLIM INVADERS IS NOT AN ABSOLUTE MORAL PRINCIPLE.

    GIVING UP ONE’S MOTHERLAND TO BRITISH CHRISTIAN IMPERIALISTS IS NOT A MORALLY ACCEPTABLE PRINCIPLE.

    [You will never understand this until you have Christ in you.]

    I DO NOT WANT A SON OF A JEWISH WHORE.

    [Evil is evil and absolutely wrong whether done by your enemy, by your friend, or by your brother, or by your Guru or father/mother.]

    CHRISTIANITY IS EVIL.

    BECAUSE, CHRISTIANITY IS BASED ON FALSEHOODS.

    BECAUSE, CHRISTIANITY IS BASED ON NON-STOP HISTORICAL LIES.

    [When you make it conditionally or subjectively incorrect then you have no principles or violated the correct principles.]

    CHRISTIANITY IS BOTH CONDITIONAL AND SUBJECTIVE IN ITS CORE.

    CHRISTIANITY ALSO BELIEVES THAT HUMAN BIRTH IS CONDITIONAL SUCH AS IN THE CASE OF JESUS F**KING CHRIST’S BIRTH, WHICH CHRISTIANITY WANTS EVERYONE TO BLINDLY BELIEVE FOR TAKING PLACE ON EARTH BEYOND THE REALM OF BIOLOGICAL SCIENCE.

    [Savarkar was wrong when he supported evil (Nazis and the fascists Mussolini and the Japanese).]

    V.D. SAVARKAR WAS RIGHT.

    LINK

    http://wesscholar.wesleyan.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2363&context=etd_hon_theses

    V.D. SAVARKAR LOVED HIS MOTHERLAND AND SACRIFICED EVERYTHING FOR HIS MOTHERLAND.

    SERVING BRITISH CHRISTIAN IMPERIALISTS WAS (IS) ADHARMA, ACCORDING TO “HINDUISM”.

    NAZIS AND MUSSOLINI WERE CHRISTIANS.

    SO, USING NAZIS AND MUSSOLINI (I.E., CHRISTIANS) AGAINST BRITISH CHRISTIAN IMPERIALISTS WAS A MASTER POLITICAL ACT OF V.D. SAVARKAR.

    [You are wrong when you support a murderer like Godse who killed Gandhi (who is a fellow human being) not in self defense but in cold-blooded murder.]

    NATHURAM VINAYAK GODSE WAS A PATRIOT.

    NATHURAM VINAYAK GODSE WAS NOT A MURDERER, BECAUSE KILLING A TRAITOR IS NOT MURDER.

    M.K. GANDHI WAS A BRITISH STOOGE WHO ALLOWED CREATION OF “PAKISTANS” BY COLLABORATING WITH INDIAN MUSLIMS AND IMPERIAL CHRISTIANS.

    M.K. GANDHI WAS AN INSIDIOUS TRAITOR TO “HINDUISM” FOR USING “HINDU” SCRIPTURES TO SUBVERT INDIAN “HINDUS”.

    “…WE WALKED NIGHT AND DAY.

    THERE WERE MEN AND WOMEN OF ALL AGES AND ALL CONDITIONS.

    MANY COULD NOT STAND THE STRAIN.

    THEY — MOSTLY WOMEN AND CHILDREN — WERE LEFT ON THE ROAD.

    I REACHED A PLACE CALLED FAZILKA, IN INDIAN TERRITORY, AND DISCOVERED THAT ANOTHER REFUGEE COLUMN IN WHICH MY FATHER AND OTHER RELATIVES HAD SET OUT HAD FARED MUCH WORSE.

    THEY HAD BEEN ATTACKED BY MUSLIM MOBS ON THEIR WAY: ONLY 40 OR 50 HAD SURVIVED OUT OF 400 OR 500 AND EVEN THOSE WERE IN HOSPITALS.

    MY AUNT HAD BEEN KILLED, MORE THAN A HUNDRED GIRLS WERE ABDUCTED, AND MY FATHER RESCUED FROM A HEAP OF THE DEAD.

    …WHILE IN FAZILKA, WE SAW OTHER REFUGEE COLUMNS COMING IN; ONE OF THEM HE SAYS WAS ‘FORTY MILES LONG’, AND IN ANOTHER MARCHED…

    FIVE HUNDRED WOMEN WHO HAD BEEN STRIPPED NAKED…

    …I SAW WOMEN WITH THEIR BREASTS, NOSES, EARS, AND CHEEKS CUT…

    …ONE OF THEM TOLD ME HOW HER CHILD WAS ROASTED AND SHE WAS ASKED TO PARTAKE OF THE SAME…

    ….ANOTHER WAS RAVISHED IN THE PRESENCE OF HER HUSBAND WHO WAS KEPT TIED TO A TREE.”

    – STATED UNDER OATH BY MADAN LAL PAHWA DURING “M.K. GANDHI MURDER TRIAL”

    M.K. GANDHI WAS NOT MURDERED; M.K. GANDHI WAS SLAUGHTERED FOR THE CRIME OF TREASON.

    [The intensity of hatred in you is perhaps only matched by the hatred the ISIS or jihadi elements have towards Jews and non-Muslims.]

    TELLING PAINSTAKING TRUTH IS NOT HATRED.

    ISLAMIC STATE OF IRAQ, LIBYA, AND SYRIA IS (WAS) THE CREATION OF CHRISTIAN AMERICAN MUSLIM ALLIES IN MIDDLE EAST NAMELY SAUDI ARABIA, QATAR, AND OTHERS.

    “HINDUS” ARE NOT JIHADISTS, SINCE “HINDUS” DO NOT FOLLOW ISLAM.

    CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS ALWAYS UNITE IN ORDER TO MURDER INDIAN “HINDUS”.

    SO, “HINDUS” ARE BETTER OFF OBEYING THE ETERNAL ADVICE OF BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA AND SLAUGHTER MUSLIM AND CHRISTIAN INVADERS.

    [ISIS and jihadi elements do the crimes because their hatred is easily let out with hate crimes, killings, pillage as they have access to arms and have support of local political machinery.]

    MUSLIMS COMMIT JIHAD, BECAUSE CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES SUPPORT MUSLIM JIHADISTS WITH MONEY, SAFE-HOUSES, AND ARMS, SUCH AS IN THE CASES OF USAMAH BIN LADEN IN AFGHANISTAN AND MANY OTHER DEVOUT MUSLIMS.

    [It is fortunate for minorities (Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Communists, Atheists, Dalits, Sikhs etc.) that you do not yet have the access to arms, nor do you have support of local political machinery though the geo-political situation in India is slowly turning towards Hindu fascism.]

    EVEN IF “HINDUS” HAD ACCESS TO ARMS, INDIAN “HINDUS” WILL NOT KILL MUSLIM AND CHRISTIAN INVADERS.

    BECAUSE, MOST INDIAN “HINDUS” DO NOT KNOW THE TRUE HISTORY OF INDIAN SUBCONTINENT WHERE MUSLIM AND CHRISTIAN INVADERS SYSTEMATICALLY MURDERED “HINDUS” AND PLUNDERED EVERYTHING OF “HINDUS” FOR NEARLY A MILLENNIUM.

    [The Rwandan genocide against the Tutsis happened because the Hutu majority was slowly indoctrinated towards hatred against the Tutsis in name of nationalism and patriotism.]

    RWANDAN GENOCIDE TOOK PLACE BECAUSE WORLD’S CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES ALLOWED IT TO GO THROUGH.

    YAZIDI GENOCIDE IS TAKING PLACE BECAUSE WORLD’S CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES DO NOTHING TO STOP IT.

    ARMENIAN GENOCIDE TOOK PLACE BECAUSE BRITISH CHRISTIAN IMPERIALISTS HAD A BLIND EYE TOWARDS GENOCIDAL TURKISH MUSLIMS.

    “HINDU” GENOCIDE IN NEWLY CREATED “PAKISTAN” TOOK PLACE BECAUSE BRITISH CHRISTIAN IMPERIALISTS ALLOWED IT.

    “”HINDU” GENOCIDE IN BANGLADESH TOOK PLACE BECAUSE BRITISH CHRISTIAN IMPERIALISTS CURVED “PAKISTANS” OUT OF INDIA (I.E., BHARAT RASHTRA).

    [It is only love of Christ that can change your inborn and indoctrinated hatred towards minorities into love for all human beings irrespective of race or faith/worldview.]

    YOUR JESUS F**KING CHRIST IS NOT LOVE.

    YOUR JESUS F**KING CHRIST WAS OF BLOOD AND GORE.

  13. Face_The_Truth says:

    [Think outside the box WROTE Why Krishna is not God?]

    WHY IS JESUS FU**KING CHRIST NOT “SON OF GOD”?

    BECAUSE, JESUS F**KING CHRIST WAS A SON OF A JEWISH WHORE.

  14. Face_The_Truth says:

    THIS MESSAGE IS FOR RON_THE_CHRISTIAN_MOTH**FU**ER:

    I AM NOT YOUR BROTHER.

    STOP WRITING ANOTHER CONDESCENDING POST ADDRESSING ME.

    NAZIS WERE CHRISTIANS; MOST NAZIS WERE CHURCH-GOERS — ROMAN CATHOLICS.

    IF NAZIS WERE INFLUENCED BY “HINDUISM”, NAZIS WOULD NOT HAVE ATTENDED CHRISTIAN CHURCHES.

    I DO NOT GO TO CHRISTIAN CHURCH, BECAUSE I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN.

    SO, STOP LYING BY CLAIMING THAT NAZIS WERE “HINDUS”.

    I READ HISTORY AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND HISTORY AS IT TOOK PLACE INSTEAD OF PUTTING MY BIAS INTO IT.

    I KNOW — BY STUDYING — THE BLOODY HISTORIES OF CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM.

    DO NOT EVER TRY TO REVISE THE HISTORIES OF YOUR BLOODY CHRISTIANITY BY DISPLACING CHRISTIAN MISDEEDS INTO INDIAN “HINDUS”.

    CENTURY AFTER CENTURY, INDIAN “HINDUS” TOOK SO MUCH FALSE PROPAGANDA FROM CHRISTIAN MOTH**FU**ERS LIKE YOURSELF BEFORE.

    BUT, TODAY INDIAN “HINDUS” DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE YOUR CHRISTIAN BULL-CRAP ANYMORE.

    DO NOT EVER TRY TO TEACH ETHICS OF HUMANITY TO INDIAN “HINDUS”.

    BECAUSE, INDIAN “HINDUS” DID NOT CREATE NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMPS; CHRISTIANS DID.

    AND, THAT IS HISTORY.

    V.D. SAVARKAR WAS THE FIRST INDIAN POLITICIAN TO FULLY SUPPORT THE CREATION OF THE JEWISH STATE OF ISRAEL IN 1940’S; NOT ANY OF THE FOLLOWERS OF BRITISH STOOGE M.K. GANDHI DID SO BEFORE V.D. SAVARKAR.

    IF YOU OR OTHER CHRISTIANS DO NOT LIKE “HINDUISM”, PLEASE QUIT INDIA AND GO TO PAKISTAN, BANGLADESH, AFGHANISTAN OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY OF YOUR CHOICE AND PREACH YOUR JESUS FU**ING CHRIST THERE.

    INDIAN “HINDUS” ARE NOT BEGGING YOU TO STAY.

    INDIAN “HINDUS” DO NOT NEED YOUR JESUS FU**ING CHRIST.

    THE LINKS OF WEB-ADDRESSES THAT YOU PASTED IN YOUR POSTS ARE FROM CHRISTIAN-ISLAMIC PROPAGANDA PRESSES.

    VICTOR AND VICTORIA TRIMONDI ARE THE WORST SCUMS ON EARTH WHO PRETEND TO BE HISTORIANS IN ORDER TO REVISE THE BLOODY HISTORIES OF CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM.

    IF I WANT TO WRITE ON THIS WEBSITE ONE AFTER ANOTHER BRITISH CHRISTIAN ATROCITIES ON EVERY INDIAN “HINDU” PATRIOT DURING 150 YEARS OF BRITISH CHRISTIAN IMPERIALISM IN INDIAN SUBCONTINENT, I WILL HAVE TO QUIT MY DAY-JOB.

    DO NOT ADVISE INDIAN “HINDUS” TO TAKE ANY MORE CHRISTIAN AND ISLAMIC ATROCITIES ON THEM SILENTLY; BECAUSE, INDIAN “HINDUS” ALREADY HAD ENOUGH FROM CHRISTIAN MOTH**FU**ERS LIKE YOURSELF.

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    [“It is difficult but you have to always stand on principles of absolute morality of right and wrong. You will never understand this until you have Jesus Fu**ing Christ in you.”]

    I DO NOT WANT YOUR JESUS FU**ING CHRIST IN ME; BECAUSE, I AM BLESSED WITH BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA IN MY WHOLE LIFE.

    YOUR JESUS FU**ING CHRIST WAS A JEWISH BASTARD.

    INDIAN “HINDUS” DO NOT NEED TO WORSHIP A MORTAL, SICK, PERVERT JEWISH BASTARD (I.E., SON OF A JEWISH WHORE).

    NEVER AGAIN WRITE ANOTHER CONDESCENDING COMMENT TOWARDS ME.

  15. Think outside the box says:

    This is a video from a professor in Philosophy in University of Ljubljana, Slovenia

    On how the Nazis learnt racist, ideas, evil sexual practices etc from Hindu Scriptures

  16. Think outside the box says:

    Why Krishna is not God?

    Is teasing Gopies, a childish pranks of Krishna?
    Was Krishna naughty and mischievous?
    Was Krishna’s bad behavior deeper wisdom of hindutwa?

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    Explanation:

    Why Krishna is not God. Krishna had several qualities which proves beyond doubt that Krishna can’t be God because he does not show any godly qualities. Here are several undeniable truths about Krishna.

    1. Krishna was sinful
    2. Krishna was stealing butter
    3. Krishna broke Dharman to win his battle
    4. Krishna was a womanizer
    5. Krishna was not all knowing
    6. Krishna was not All powerful
    7. Krishna was not holy
    8. Krishna told lies

    Krishna as god naughty and mischievous? That does not make any sense. And knowingly sinning is not a child’s play. Krishna was not a child when he went after 1600 gopies (women). In this modern time such a person would be called playboy. The advanced society of our times does not allow such mischevious behavior so how is it possible for a person who claims himself to be god to do such worst things and still be called god?

  17. Ron says:

    Please read the book to know how the Nazis used Hindu scriptures for their evil practices.

    Hitler, Buddha, Krishna. An unholy alliance from the Third Reich to the present day

    http://www.trimondi.de/H-B-K/inhalt.hi.en.htm

    The book has two sections. The first focuses on religious and political activity within the SS-Ahnenerbe. The aspects of Eastern religions that were influencing Nazi thought were discussed and debated from an esoteric as well as an academic stance since Heinrich Himmler, the Society’s leader, encouraged both approaches to the subject. The authors were surprised to uncover here discussions on:

    Incarnation

    Karma law

    Buddhist meditation

    Samurai ethics

    Bhagavad Gita warrior mysticism

    Hitler as sacred ruler of the world (Chakravartin)

    Truly astonishing is the extent to which Himmler’s world view ‘think tank’ applied itself so assiduously and comprehensively and with such foresight to the subject. This section of the book also studies the Nazi-Tibet-Connection.

    The second section sets out the fateful legacy left by the SS-Ahnenerbe and offers an insight into post-war religious neo-Fascism. We are confronted here with an occult subculture wielding substantial power, a school of thought in which myths, religious paradigms, dogmas, conspiracy theories, esoteric doctrines, superstition, visions, illusions and the stuff of fables and science fiction all merged so seamlessly with Nazi ideologies and Nazi history that they could no longer be distinguished one from the other. The Indo-Tibetan element, however, is sufficiently prominent to justify talk of “Indian teachings with National Socialist content”. Hitler appears here as an avatar, the incarnation of the Indian god Krishna, the Bodhisattva, the Chakravartin (sacred ruler of the world). The second section also considers the interest shown by fascists in the Tibetan Kalachakra Tantra ritual.

    Who are the key exponents of theories featured in the book?

    “Hitler, Buddha, Krishna” sets out the biographies and ideas of important Nazi ideologists, highlighting the Asian and in particular the Buddhist influence on their thought and vision. Pre-1945 personalities covered are:

    Heinrich Himmler, SS Reich Commander, architect of mass murder and admirer of Asian philosophy. A quotation from Himmler: “I marvel at the wisdom of the founders of Indian religions.” Himmler was a follower of the Buddhist doctrine of Karma and incarnation.

    Walther Wüst, SS colonel, curator of SS-Ahnenerbe, vice chancellor of Munich University, Orientalist. Wüst has to be viewed as the driving force behind the SS-Ahnenerbe’s endeavours to forge a religion. He operated on the assumption that the Nazi religion under construction should be rooted in the Vedic and Buddhist writings of India.

    Founder of the “German Faith Movement” and later SS captain Jakob Wilhelm Hauer. Scholar of Indian culture and Sanskrit expert, he drew on Bhagavad Gita and Buddhist texts in an attempt to elaborate the typology of an invincible war machine.

    SS brigadier Karl Maria Wiligut (“Himmler’s Rasputin”), occultist in the SS-Ahnenerbe. He claimed to be in spiritual contact with Tibetan Lamaist monasteries.

    SS Tibetan researchers Ernst Schäfer and Bruno Beger saw Lamaism as a treasury in which the core Aryan knowledge was stored. The book also looks at the relationship of Sven Hedin to the Nazi regime and Hitler.

    Japan expert, geopolitician and Deutsche Akademie President Karl Haushofer. He emphasised the appropriateness of Shinto state fascism as a model for National Socialism.

    The German teachers of Zen Buddhism, Eugen Herrigel and Karlfried Dürckheim, propounded a link between National Socialism and Zen philosophy.

    The fascist philosopher Julius Evola, whose ideas were much more influential on the SS than first thought and whose traditionalist system of theories is based largely on Buddhist and Tantric doctrines.

    The SS mystic Otto Rahn and the neo-Buddhist circles he frequented in France. Their influence led Rahn to claim that the “Grail of the Cathars” was a “symbol of the soul adopted [!] straight from Buddhism”.

    The French specialist on the Orient, Jean Marquès-Rivière, head of the French secret police (S.S.S.) and SS collaborator. One of the leading western scholars on Tibetan Kalachakra Tantra.

    The first part of the book also deals with the anti-Buddhist movement in the Third Reich. The chapter entitled “Collaborators, condoners or victims?” considers the role of Buddhists in the Nazi period.

    The protagonists of religious neo-Nazism are studied too, with particular attention being paid to the effect on their thinking of Indo-Tibetan ideas and philosophy.

    “Hitler’s High Priestess”, Savitri Devi. Was instrumental in the consecration of Hitler after the war and the establishment of National Socialism as a quasi Indian sect.

    The inventors of the “Nazi mysteries”, French occultists Jacques Bergier and Louis Pauwels, and the Englishman Trevor Ravenscroft. All three authors saw National Socialism inextricably linked to the Indo-Tibetan Shambhala myth.

    The “Black Sun” ideologues, Viennese authors Wilhelm Landig and Rudolf J. Mund, and Jan van Helsing. These writers work from the premise that Tibetan / Mongolian Lamaism and the esoteric teachings of National Socialism both have their source in Atlantis.

    Miguel Serrano, Chilean diplomat and founder of “esoteric Hitlerism”. Serrano is an expert in Tantric doctrines. The cornerstones of his system of racist theories are Indo-Tibetan in origin.

    Why the title of the book:“Hitler, Buddha, Krishna” ?

    Even before the outbreak of war attempts were made by a number of the above-mentioned Nazi ideologues to identify Hitler as the latest link in an Indo-Aryan chain of divine kings and philosophers. Indian religion founders such as the “Buddha” and Indian hero divinities like “Krishna” were proclaimed pioneers and heralds of the dictator. This apotheosis reached its climax in the work of the Chilean diplomat Miguel Serrano, who revered Hitler as the 10th avatar of the god Krishna/Vishnu. For Serrano the German dictator is immortal and will reappear as “avenger” to bestow global supremacy on the Aryan race in an apocalyptic war to end all wars.

    What did Nazi ideologues look for in India, and what did they find ?

    In their eyes the classical culture of India was a reserve in which knowledge of an Aryan stem civilisation was supposed to have survived.

    Indian writings furnished them with the religious bases for a cruel warrior religion and an inhuman ethic for the conduct of war.

    They saw the Indian caste system as providing a social orientation model that fitted their racialist ideology.

    They linked the Indian idea of the “global ruler” to their own “Führer principle” and applied it to Hitler.

    From the Tantric systems of India and Tibet they developed their own fascist sexual theory.

    What was the Nazi ideologues’ particular interest in the Bhagavad Gita ?

    Heinrich Himmler is said to have always carried a copy of the Bhagavad Gita on his person. He compared Hitler with the god Krishna who features in the poetical work.

    The Bhagavad Gita was read like a catechism for the SS. Consequently many of the above-mentioned Nazi ideologues referred continually to this Indian war manual.

    The Bhagavad Gita’s philosophy is used by rightwing extremists after the war to legitimise Auschwitz.

    What did Nazi ideologues look for in Tibet and what did they find ?

    The Nazi ideologues were convinced that remnants of an original Aryan race had survived in Tibet. They organised an expedition to locate these vestiges.

    They believed the ancient Aryan knowledge to be preserved in Lamaist texts and in Tibetan monasteries. It was intended that SS-Ahnenerbe Tibetologists decipher this knowledge using translation and text analysis.

    The Tibet researchers of the SS were in thrall to the magic, occult nature of the Lamaist culture. The occultist within the Ahnenerbe even believed themselves to be in spiritual contact with Tibetan lamas.

    The two leaders of the SS Tibet expedition, Ernst Schäfer and Bruno Beger, were both especially drawn to the morbid, warlike elements of Tibetan Buddhism.

    The Himalayas were a key objective for Nazi mountaineers.

    What do the Kalachakra Tantra and the Shambhalahave to do with National Socialism ?

    SS-Ahnenerbe researchers were especially interested in the Kalachakra Tantra.

    The Shambala vision recorded in the Kalachakra Tantra has become a central pillar in the mythology of religious neo-Nazism.

    Many of the themes raised in the Kalachakra Tantra (a cyclical view of the world, global domination, the use of super weapons, magic and ritual in sexual practices etc) are key themes in religious fascism.

    The Kalachakra Tantra challenges the monotheistic religions, all three of which are Semitic in origin. For this reason it was harnessed by extreme rightwing, anti-Semitic circles for their racist propaganda.

    Contact between the XIVth Dalai Lama, as the supreme Kalachakra master, and representatives of religious fanaticism and former SS men.

  18. Ron says:

    Dear Brother Face the Truth,

    You seem to have read revisionist history which further indoctrinates you with hatred.

    This hatred can make you start or actively participate in crimes against minorities.

    This happened in Rwanda where minority Tutsis were killed by neighbouring Hutus whom they knew all along.

    After the Belgian colonialist left the majority Hutus were slowly brainwashed and indoctrinated by revisionist history and vested interests who placed all the blames of the economy, loss of jobs, wars, reservations, corruption, crime etc. on the Tutsis.

    The Hutus were told that the country will become a utopia of peace, progress if the Tutsis were displaced or taken out (read killed). The only people who were patriotic and nationalistic and who kept the country before them were the Hutus. The minority Hutus (born or unborn) were anti-nationals or latent anti-nationals.

    So, when the genocide began after the death of Habyarimana in a plane crash, it was Hutu majority people like you (Face the truth et al) who began the slaughtering the minorities (men, women, children, babies and unborn Tutsis). They had the local political machinery to support them (as happened in a small scale in Gujarat).

    The hate instilled in them (presently so intense in you) was so much that they justified the killings of innocents in the name of patriotism, nationalism, national security and correcting historical mistakes.

    This was done by the Nazis and by Mussolini (people whom who you Hindus venerate and defend which is sickening to say the least). You just cannot justify defend Nazism.

    Read this book (excerpts are below)
    http://www.trimondi.de/H-B-K/inhalt.hi.en.htm

    What did Nazi ideologues look for in India, and what did they find?

    In their eyes the classical culture of India was a reserve in which knowledge of an Aryan stem civilisation was supposed to have survived.

    Indian writings furnished them with the religious bases for a cruel warrior religion and an inhuman ethic for the conduct of war.

    They saw the Indian caste system as providing a social orientation model that fitted their racialist ideology.

    They linked the Indian idea of the “global ruler” to their own “Führer principle” and applied it to Hitler.

    From the Tantric systems of India and Tibet they developed their own fascist sexual theory.

  19. Face_The_Truth says:

    The Nazi (i.e., Christian) Abuse Of Hinduism
    By Ranbir Singh

    Certain groups, notably the Jews, who suffered under the Nazis, and were its explicit targets for extermination, may be apprehensive at the use of the ancient symbol, the Swastika under which so many were annihilated on the basis that they were subhumans.

    This is something that should create equal apprehension among Hindus, as they also have been victims of the same ideology. Reference here is to the conveniently forgotten Holocaust of the Roma or “Gypsies” (who are descendants of Indian Hindus) under the same Third Reich that carried out the “Final Solution” to what it saw as the “Jewish Problem”.

    The swastika is an ancient symbol associated with good luck, used regularly in places such as Hindu weddings, Jain iconography, and Buddhist temples. It is associated as a symbol of good luck and with the solar deity Surya. Hindus cannot be blamed that Hitler, who had no respect neither for Hindus nor Hindu culture, decided to steal their symbol for the visual manifestation and to give vent to his own nauseating ideas. If Hindus are to be blamed for the use of something like this, then are they to be blamed for the false use of the term “Aryan” to mean race? In fact the Sanskrit word “Arya” means person of noble quality, and does not connote race, nor even linguistics. So how did this ancient symbol of Hindu culture become associated with Nazi ideology?

    The British Imperialist rulers of India began an earnest interest and research into the ancient civilisation of which they were now the colonial masters. One of the earliest was Sir William Jones (1746-94) who established the Royal Asiatic Society. A gifted linguist who studied Sanskrit, Jones is widely regarded as the father of “Indology”. Knowledge of this ancient and sacred Hindu language made many scholars realise not only its great antiquity, but also its affinity to most of the languages spoken in the West, an interest that was taken up most stridently by the Germans.

    A weak and divided people at the time suffering the threat of domination by either France or Austria, the Germans were split into various states and dukedoms, the largest of which was Prussia. This period of alienation, accentuated by events such as the fall of the Holy Roman Empire due to Napoleon’s conquest, led many German thinkers of the early nineteenth century to look for inspiration to India. These included Frederick von Schlegel, his brother Augustus Wilhelm, Wilhelm von Humbolt, Arthur Schopenhauer, and Hegel. There was also the rise of romanticism in Germany, a reaction to the industrialisation of European society that was fast gathering pace. An idealisation of the past before industrialisation could manifest itself in the poetry of Wordsworth, in Britain (the first nation to embark on what became known as the Industrial revolution) by which a rurally based society was replaced by one that was increasingly urbanised, technologically driven and found its output in factories rather than subsistence agriculture.

    But in continental Europe, romanticism meant something else. As well as idealising the pre-industrial “purity” of humans living in harmony with nature, the German romanticists also talked of the pagan heroes before the time of Christianity, in their view, brave warriors who held off the Romans in the almost impenetrable forests of central Europe. This however also had a more sinister side. Some romanticists wanted to free themselves of the “alien” Jewish contamination brought into German society by Christianity, as well as by the Jews themselves.

    This anti-Semitism is most obvious in the operas of Wagner, where Siegfried is elevated to the status of Teutonic messiah, almost Christ-like.

    In fact this renewed interest in the pre-Christian German pagan past bore more resemblance in its nineteenth century version to the inflexible dogma of the Church as it existed then, than it did to anything remotely resembling the ancient Germanic folk beliefs. Slavophilism in Russia with its idealisation of the peasant and village, even more virulent anti-Semitism, and deep suspicion of all things Western, including the much needed industrialisation (which could in fact have saved the Czarist Empire from falling to the vice of Communism) was another manifestation of this extreme romanticist trend.

    As Prussia emerged as a military power and German unification was achieved in 1871, the British looked on with alarm. Indeed Sir Henry Maine, former Vice-Chancellor of Calcutta University said:

    “..a nation has been borne out of Sanskrit.”

    The idea, especially after the 1857 Rebellion, that Indians might unite like the Germans or French, under the power of the “Brahmans”, and this would seriously undermine the divide and rule policy which colonialism had engineered. This accentuated a process that had begun much earlier by a British educationalist in India, Thomas Babbington Macaulay (1800-1859), who wanted to create a class of Indians educated in the English language and way of thinking so as to uphold colonial rule, a self-alienated group which would act as intermediary between the “white masters” and the “dark subjects”. To this day, the term “Macaulayite” is used as the best term to describe a self-alienated Indian who feels closer to non-Hindu models to look at Hinduism, notably Marxism.

    As Indians and especially Hindus took enthusiastically to the new schools and colleges which imparted western education, Macaulay saw this as a means of achieving another one of his goals, the mass conversion of Hindu society, especially its upper echelons to Christianity. He made this candidly obvious in 1836:

    “Our English schools are flourishing wonderfully. The effect of this education on the Hindus is prodigious … … It is our belief that if our plans of education are followed up, there will not be a single idolator among the respectable classes in Bengal thirty years hence. And this will be effected without any effort to proselytise, without the smallest interference with religious liberty, by natural operation of knowledge and reflection. I heartily rejoice in the project.”

    To help in this he needed a scholar who would help turn the Brahmans as the priestly caste among Hindus, against their own sacred writings, but in a scholarly way, that could be deemed as being “progressive”. They would then reject the Vedas for the New Testament followed by the rest of Hindu society en masse. Through Professor Horace Wilson, Boden professor of Sanskrit at Oxford, Macaulay found the devout Protestant and gifted Vedic scholar. This was the German Sanskritologist, Friedrich Max Muller. An ardent German nationalist, Muller was nevertheless a devout Christian, and for the sum of £10,000 was persuaded to work for the British East India Company by Macaulay, to translate the Rig Veda in such a way that it would destroy the Hindu belief in the Vedas. He made this plain in 1866, when writing to his wife about his translation of the Veda:

    “…this edition of mine and the translation of the Veda, will hereafter tell to a great extent on the fate of India and on the growth of millions of souls in that country. It is the root of their religion and to show them what the root it, I feel sure, is the only way of uprooting all that has sprung from it during the last three thousand years.”

    Though one cannot cast doubt on his intelligence and talent, Muller’s scholarship is nevertheless marred by this ulterior motive. This was only the beginning. It was Max Muller who gave “Aryan” a racial meaning, knowing full well as a scholar well versed in that ancient language, that Sanskrit “Arya” does not mean race.

    The idea of Aryan race could not be contained. From this time forward the idea was advanced of an Aryan invasion by Indo-European, and obviously white-skinned European looking, tribes from Central Asia, which founded Hindu civilisation and authored the Vedas, and came to be widely accepted, even though it had absolutely no basis in any indigenous tradition of India, until Muller invented it as an ideological mechanism for colonial domination for his British masters.

    It was enhanced by those same romanticist intellectuals who wanted to free themselves of all Judaic influence brought upon them by Christianity, and saw this Aryan racial theory as another string to their bow. Like the artificial dating of the Vedas to 1400 BCE, so as to be more recent than the books of the Bible, it had absolutely nothing to do with India itself, and the people of India as well as ancient Hindu civilisation had no part to play in it, had no say in the matter, but instead saw its rich spiritual treasures plundered to be used for the most materialistic and debased of motives.

    The swastika, symbol of ancient cultures par excellence, was an ideal mechanism with which to manufacture a mythical past, which never existed and which was produced by the national frustration of European power politics, the formation of nation states, competing aspirations of multi-ethnic self-determination, anti-Semitism, and the racist ideas of what was then scientifically acceptable Social Darwinism and eugenics, rather than any historical reality of Celtic and Germanic ancient Europe. Runic symbols, Norse gods such as Odin, and even the ancient Greek myth of Atlantis, all were exploited along with the swastika and idea of the Aryan race to bolster Nazi theory and ideology.

    What did Hitler himself have to say regarding the people who the first to use the swastika thousands of years ago? Well in Mein Kampf he wrote the following:

    “… …I, as a man of Germanic blood, would, in spite of everything, rather see India under English rule than under any other” and,

    “England will never lose India unless she admits racial disruption in the machinery of her administration or unless she is overcome by the sword of some powerful enemy … [and] Indian risings will never bring this about.”

    And later in March 1945 on using Indian prisoners-of-war to fight for the Axis:

    “The Indian legion is a joke. I believe that if Indians could be used to turn prayer-wheels they would be the most indefatigable soldiers in the world. But using them in a life-and-death war is pure madness. They cannot even kill an Englishman.”

    The National Socialist fixation with a degenerate India and its indigenous Hindu inhabitants is retained to this very day. In 1999, American “designer” Nazi David Duke updated many of the ideas of Mein Kampf in his My Awakening where he reiterates the same false ideas of an Aryan race.

    The use of the swastika should then be seen in the context of the aforementioned factors. The use of the Nazi swastika should be resisted. But that was never the swastika of Hindu civilisation, just as the racial term “Aryan” had never been the meaning of “Arya” in Sanskrit of the Vedas. The Hindu move to reclaim the swastika should be seen as apart of the wider aim to salvage Hindu culture and civilisation from the assault it has received from many sources. It should also lead academics and others to seriously ask other questions that have been conveniently ignored. Should the Aryan Invasion Theory, which forms the basis of the Master Race Ideology, be continued to be taught as fact despite its nineteenth century racist and proto-Nazi origins, as well as having no historical basis? Should the forgotten racial victims of the Nazi genocide, the Roma, be awarded compensation? Does the Roma presence in Europe have its origins in a genocide and imperialism in India which mainstream scholars conveniently ignore? Uncomfortable issues perhaps, but we should be able to at last face these long overdue facts. A public debate about the swastika and Aryan master race myth would be a good start that Hindu Human Rights group fully supports. Indeed part of our work is to educate and stop the continuing abuse of Hindu symbols and traditions which go on to this day. Hopefully this continuing effort may stop the Nazis (i.e., Christians) of the future.

    LINK

    https://www.facebook.com/notes/hindu-human-rights/the-nazi-abuse-of-hinduism/10150232017385716/

  20. Face_The_Truth says:

    [“This utterance brought to mind the instructions Krishna issued to Arjuna, demanding from the latter to attack his kin and kill them.”]

    WHAT A GROSS MIS-REPRESENTATION OF MAHA-BHARATA!!!

    BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA WAS TELLING ARJUNA TO FIGHT HIS ENEMIES WHO WANTED TO GO TO WAR IN THE FIRST PLACE.

    IT WAS NOT BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA WHO WANTED WAR.

    IN MAHA-BHARATA, BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA DID EVERYTHING TO AVOID THE ULTIMATE WAR.

    IT WAS ARJUNA’S ENEMIES WHO DEMANDED NOTHING BUT WAR.

    WHAT A CHRISTIAN CHARLATAN VICTOR TRIMONDI (OR VICTORIA TRIMONDI) IS???

    CHRISTIAN REVISIONISM OF CHRISTIAN HISTORIES INVOLVING GENOCIDAL IDEOLOGIES BEHIND MILLENNIA-OLD CHRISTIAN ATROCITIES ARE NOW BEING SUPER-IMPOSED ON INDIAN “HINDUS” WHO RESISTED BRITISH CHRISTIAN IMPERIAL SYSTEMATIC MASSACRES OF INDIAN “HINDUS” FOR 150 YEARS.

    IF ARJUNA DID NOT FOLLOW BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA’S ADVISE, THE ENEMIES WOULD HAVE KILLED ARJUNA ANYWAY, BECAUSE ARJUNA’S ENEMIES WANTED WAR.

    SO, BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA WAS 100% CORRECT IN HIS DIVINE ADVISE, WHICH IS APPLICABLE THROUGHOUT THE AGES, EVEN TO THIS DAY.

    IF INDIAN “HINDUS” SILENTLY ACCEPTED ISLAM WITHOUT FIGHTING MUSLIM INVADERS TIME AFTER TIME, ALL INDIANS WOULD BE SPEAKING EITHER ARABIC OR FARSI TODAY.

    IF ARJUNA SILENTLY ACCEPTED ENEMIES’ DEMANDS AND DECIDED NOT TO FIGHT AND KILL THE ENEMIES, THERE WOULD NOT HAVE REMAINED A BHARAT RASHTRA.

    NOW, CHRISTIAN PROPAGANDA MACHINE IS TRYING EXTREMELY HARD TO SUBDUE INDIAN “HINDUS” FROM RESISTING CHRISTIAN MOTH**FU**ERS AND MUSLIM BASTARDS BY GROSSLY MIS-REPRESENTING BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA’S IMMORTAL TEACHINGS TO NOT GIVE UP TO THE ENEMIES OF SANATANA DHARMA.

    EUROPEAN JEWS AND EUROPEAN GYPSIES DID NOT START WAR WITH NAZI (I.E., CHRISTIAN) GERMANY.

    EUROPEAN JEWS AND EUROPEAN GYPSIES DID NOT WANT WAR WITH NAZI (I.E., CHRISTIAN) GERMANY.

    NAZI (I.E., CHRISTIAN) GERMANY STARTED WAR ON EUROPEAN JEWS AND EUROPEAN GYPSIES.

    SOVIET UNION DID NOT INVADE NAZI (I.E., CHRISTIAN) GERMANY; NAZI (I.E., CHRISTIAN) GERMANY DID INVADE SOVIET UNION.

    SO, ACCORDING TO BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA, AMERICAN AND SOVIET UNION’S MILITARY STRIKES ON NAZI (I.E., CHRISTIAN) GERMANY WERE MORALLY AND ETHICALLY AND RELIGIOUSLY JUSTIFIED.

    WHEN CHRISTIAN MOTH**F**KERS AND MUSLIM BASTARDS KILL INDIAN “HINDUS”, INDIAN “HINDUS” ARE MORALLY AND ETHICALLY AND RELIGIOUSLY ALLOWED TO SLAUGHTER ALL CHRISTIAN AND MUSLIM INVADERS, ACCORDING TO BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA.

  21. Face_The_Truth says:

    THIS MESSAGE IS FOR RON_THE_CHRISTIAN_MOTH**FU**ER:

    I AM NOT YOUR BROTHER.

    STOP WRITING ANOTHER CONDESCENDING POST ADDRESSING ME.

    I READ HISTORY AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND HISTORY AS IT TOOK PLACE INSTEAD OF PUTTING MY BIAS INTO IT.

    I KNOW — BY STUDYING — THE BLOODY HISTORIES OF CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM.

    DO NOT EVER TRY TO REVISE THE HISTORIES OF YOUR BLOODY CHRISTIANITY BY DISPLACING CHRISTIAN MISDEEDS INTO INDIAN “HINDUS”.

    CENTURY AFTER CENTURY, INDIAN “HINDUS” TOOK SO MUCH FALSE PROPAGANDA FROM CHRISTIAN MOTH**FU**ERS LIKE YOURSELF BEFORE.

    BUT, TODAY INDIAN “HINDUS” DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE YOUR CHRISTIAN BULL-CRAP ANYMORE.

    DO NOT EVER TRY TO TEACH ETHICS OF HUMANITY TO INDIAN “HINDUS”.

    BECAUSE, INDIAN “HINDUS” DID NOT CREATE NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMPS; CHRISTIANS DID.

    AND, THAT IS HISTORY.

    V.D. SAVARKAR WAS THE FIRST INDIAN POLITICIAN TO FULLY SUPPORT THE CREATION OF THE JEWISH STATE OF ISRAEL IN 1940’S; NOT ANY OF THE FOLLOWERS OF BRITISH STOOGE M.K. GANDHI DID SO BEFORE V.D. SAVARKAR.

    IF YOU OR OTHER CHRISTIANS DO NOT LIKE “HINDUISM”, PLEASE QUIT INDIA AND GO TO PAKISTAN, BANGLADESH, AFGHANISTAN OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY OF YOUR CHOICE AND PREACH YOUR JESUS FU**ING CHRIST THERE.

    INDIAN “HINDUS” ARE NOT BEGGING YOU TO STAY.

    INDIAN “HINDUS” DO NOT NEED YOUR JESUS FU**ING CHRIST.

    THE LINKS OF WEB-ADDRESSES THAT YOU PASTED IN YOUR POSTS ARE FROM CHRISTIAN-ISLAMIC PROPAGANDA PRESSES.

    VICTOR AND VICTORIA TRIMONDI ARE THE WORST SCUMS ON EARTH WHO PRETEND TO BE HISTORIANS IN ORDER TO REVISE THE BLOODY HISTORIES OF CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM.

    IF I WANT TO WRITE ON THIS WEBSITE ONE AFTER ANOTHER BRITISH CHRISTIAN ATROCITIES ON EVERY INDIAN “HINDU” PATRIOT DURING 150 YEARS OF BRITISH CHRISTIAN IMPERIALISM IN INDIAN SUBCONTINENT, I WILL HAVE TO QUIT MY DAY-JOB.

    DO NOT ADVISE INDIAN “HINDUS” TO TAKE ANY MORE CHRISTIAN AND ISLAMIC ATROCITIES ON THEM SILENTLY; BECAUSE, INDIAN “HINDUS” ALREADY HAD ENOUGH FROM CHRISTIAN MOTH**FU**ERS LIKE YOURSELF.

    ====================================================================

    [“It is difficult but you have to always stand on principles of absolute morality of right and wrong. You will never understand this until you have Jesus Fu**ing Christ in you.”]

    I DO NOT WANT YOUR JESUS FU**ING CHRIST IN ME; BECAUSE, I AM BLESSED WITH BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA IN MY WHOLE LIFE.

    YOUR JESUS FU**ING CHRIST WAS A JEWISH BASTARD.

    INDIAN “HINDUS” DO NOT NEED TO WORSHIP A MORTAL, SICK, PERVERT JEWISH BASTARD.

    NEVER AGAIN WRITE ANOTHER CONDESCENDING COMMENT TOWARDS ME.

  22. Face_The_Truth says:

    [“The Nazis learnt how to discriminate against the Jews from the Hindu Scriptures and Manu Smriti, (where the Brahmins and upper caste Hindus discriminate against the Shudras and untouchables.)”]

    THE ABOVE IS A FALSE STATEMENT.

    NAZIS (I.E., CHRISTIANS) LEARNED SYSTEMATIC INSTITUTIONALIZED DISCRIMINATION AGAINST JEWS FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT AND THE NEW TESTAMENT.

    I CAN CITE BOTH OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS IN SUPPORT OF MY CONCLUSION.

    SO, DO NOT WASTE MY TIME AGAIN AS I HAVE OTHER NECESSARY THINGS TO DO IN MY DAILY LIFE.

  23. Face_The_Truth says:

    THIS MESSAGE IS FOR RON_THE_CHRISTIAN_MOTH**FU**ER:

    I AM NOT YOUR BROTHER.

    STOP WRITING ANOTHER CONDESCENDING POST ADDRESSING ME.

    I READ HISTORY AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND HISTORY AS IT TOOK PLACE INSTEAD OF PUTTING MY BIAS INTO IT.

    I KNOW — BY STUDYING — THE BLOODY HISTORIES OF CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM.

    DO NOT EVER TRY TO REVISE THE HISTORIES OF YOUR BLOODY CHRISTIANITY BY DISPLACING CHRISTIAN MISDEEDS INTO INDIAN “HINDUS”.

    CENTURY AFTER CENTURY, INDIAN “HINDUS” TOOK SO MUCH FALSE PROPAGANDA FROM CHRISTIAN MOTH**FU**ERS LIKE YOURSELF BEFORE.

    BUT, TODAY INDIAN “HINDUS” DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE YOUR CHRISTIAN BULL-CRAP ANYMORE.

    DO NOT EVER TRY TO TEACH ETHICS OF HUMANITY TO INDIAN “HINDUS”.

    BECAUSE, INDIAN “HINDUS” DID NOT CREATE NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMPS; CHRISTIANS DID.

    AND, THAT IS HISTORY.

    V.D. SAVARKAR WAS THE FIRST INDIAN POLITICIAN TO FULLY SUPPORT THE CREATION OF THE JEWISH STATE OF ISRAEL IN 1940’S; NOT ANY OF THE FOLLOWERS OF BRITISH STOOGE M.K. GANDHI DID SO BEFORE V.D. SAVARKAR.

    IF YOU OR OTHER CHRISTIANS DO NOT LIKE “HINDUISM”, PLEASE QUIT INDIA AND GO TO PAKISTAN, BANGLADESH, AFGHANISTAN OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY OF YOUR CHOICE AND PREACH YOUR JESUS FU**ING CHRIST THERE.

    INDIAN “HINDUS” ARE NOT BEGGING YOU TO STAY.

    INDIAN “HINDUS” DO NOT NEED YOUR JESUS FU**ING CHRIST.

    THE LINKS OF WEB-ADDRESSES THAT YOU PASTED IN YOUR POSTS ARE FROM CHRISTIAN-ISLAMIC PROPAGANDA PRESSES.

    VICTOR AND VICTORIA TRIMONDI ARE THE WORST SCUMS ON EARTH WHO PRETEND TO BE HISTORIANS IN ORDER TO REVISE THE BLOODY HISTORIES OF CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM.

    IF I WANT TO WRITE ON THIS WEBSITE ONE AFTER ANOTHER BRITISH CHRISTIAN ATROCITIES ON EVERY INDIAN “HINDU” PATRIOT DURING 150 YEARS OF BRITISH CHRISTIAN IMPERIALISM IN INDIAN SUBCONTINENT, I WILL HAVE TO QUIT MY DAY-JOB.

    DO NOT ADVISE INDIAN “HINDUS” TO TAKE ANY MORE CHRISTIAN AND ISLAMIC ATROCITIES ON THEM SILENTLY; BECAUSE, INDIAN “HINDUS” ALREADY HAD ENOUGH FROM CHRISTIAN MOTH**FU**ERS LIKE YOURSELF.

    ====================================================================

    [“It is difficult but you have to always stand on principles of absolute morality of right and wrong. You will never understand this until you have Jesus Fu**ing Christ in you.”]

    I DO NOT WANT YOUR JESUS FU**ING CHRIST IN ME; BECAUSE, I AM BLESSED WITH BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA IN MY WHOLE LIFE.

    YOUR JESUS FU**ING CHRIST WAS A JEWISH BASTARD.

    INDIAN “HINDUS” DO NOT NEED TO WORSHIP A MORTAL, SICK, PERVERT JEWISH BASTARD.

    NEVER AGAIN WRITE ANOTHER CONDESCENDING COMMENT TOWARDS ME.

  24. Ron says:

    Brother Face the truth et al

    It is difficult but you have to always stand on principles of absolute morality of right and wrong. You will never understand this until you have Christ in you.

    Evil is evil and absolutely wrong whether done by your enemy, by your friend, or by your brother, or by your Guru or father/mother. When you make it conditionally or subjectively incorrect then you have no principles or violated the correct principles.

    Savarkar was wrong when he supported evil (Nazis and the fascists Mussolini and the Japanese).

    You are wrong when you support a murderer like Godse who killed Gandhi (who is a fellow human being) not in self defense but in cold-blooded murder.

    The intensity of hatred in you is perhaps only matched by the hatred the ISIS or jihadi elements have towards Jews and non-Muslims.

    ISIS and jihadi elements do the crimes because their hatred is easily let out with hate crimes, killings, pillage as they have access to arms and have support of local political machinery.

    It is fortunate for minorities (Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Communists, Atheists, Dalits, Sikhs etc.) that you do not yet have the access to arms, nor do you have support of local political machinery though the geo-political situation in India is slowly turning towards Hindu fascism.

    The Rwandan genocide against the Tutsis happened because the Hutu majority was slowly indoctrinated towards hatred against the Tutsis in name of nationalism and patriotism.

    It is only love of Christ that can change your inborn and indoctrinated hatred towards minorities into love for all human beings irrespective of race or faith/worldview.

  25. Ron says:

    Hitler and his Nazis practised anti-Jewish laws which they learnt from the Mufti of Jerusalem but they learnt racism and occultism from the Hindu Vedas, Geeta, Manu Smriti etc.

    The Nazis learnt how to discriminate against the Jews from the Hindu Scriptures and Manu Smriti, (where the Brahmins and upper caste Hindus discriminate against the Shudras and untouchables.)

    These god-less Nazis who learnt these hatred from Hindu Scriiptures and banned Christian schools were defeated by allied Christian countries.

    Face the truth et al has all the hatred indoctrinated in him and if he gets political power he may unleash genocide first against Muslims, then Communists/Atheists, then Christians, then Dalits and then Sikhs, then Buddhists etc.

    Face the truth et al needs the love of Christ which can transform this hatred for other humans into love and compassion for humans irrespective of their religion

    Please read this interview with Victor and Victoria Trimondi and their scholarly articles on their site at the bottom.

    These are not my words but words of Victor and Victoria Trimondi
    http://www.ibtimes.com/heinrich-himmler-nazi-hindu-214444

    You can also read their historical essay
    Hitler – Buddha – Krishna – an Unholy Alliance from the Third Reich to Today
    http://www.trimondi.de/H-B-K/bookreview.en.htm

    Perhaps the most fervent Nazi adherent to Indian Hinduism was Heinrich Himmler, one of the most brutal members of the senior command.

    Himmler, directly responsible for the deaths of millions of Jews and others as the architect of the Holocaust, was a complex and fascinating man. He was also obsessed with India and Hinduism.

    International Business Times spoke with two experts on German culture to explore Himmler and Hinduism.

    Victor and Victoria Trimondi are German cultural philosophers and writers. They have published books on religious and political topics, including Hitler-Buddha-Krishna-An Unholy Alliance from the Third Reich to the Present Day (2002), a research about the efforts by National-Socialists and Fascists to construct a racist Indo-Aryan warrior ideology with strong roots in Eastern religions and philosophies.

    IB TIMES: Heinrich Himmler was reportedly fascinated by Hinduism and ancient Indian culture, and he read the Bhagavad Gita, among other classic texts. How and when was he introduced to Indian culture? Was it prior to his joining the Nazi party or afterwards?

    MR. & MRS. TRIMONDI: Himmler kept a diary where he not only listed the books he read but also provided extensive comments on these manuscripts. His entries regarding India and Indians were always very positive.

    Himmler’s Indian reading list started in 1919 [before the Nazi Party was formed] with a German translation of a novel called Mr. Isaacs: A Tale of Modern India by Marion Crawfords. Six years later, in 1925, Himmler also praised Hermann Hesse’s Siddhartha as a magnificent book.

    Himmler was also drawn to The Pilgrim Kamanita by the Danish author Karl Gjellerup, which was a contemporary best-seller. In his diary, Himmler commented: A precious narration. The content is the teaching of salvation.

    Gjellerup’s book quoted several verses from the Vedas, including: The one who kills believes that he is killing. The one who has been killed believes that he dies. Both of them are wrong, for one doesn’t die and the other doesn’t kill.

    Later, Himmler delivered some of these same philosophies in his speeches to his SS officers.

    In the 1920s and the early 1930s, Himmler read some popular books about Hinduism and Buddhism. Yet, his actual interest in classic Hindu texts came later, when he founded the SS-Ahnenerbe, the brain trust of the Black Order, a group of highly qualified academics and occultists that attempted to forge the ideology of a racist warrior religion.

    In 1937, Himmler chose Professor Walter Wüst to serve as the president of the SS-Ahnenerbe. Two years later, Wüst became the curator of this notorious organization. Incidentally, in addition to being one of the leading Sanskrit scholars of his time, Wüst served as the president of the Maximilian University in Munich. In the academic world, Orientalists from this particular university were considered the top experts in their field.

    Wüst was keenly interested in extracting ideas from the Vedas and Buddhism of the so-called Aryan tradition in order to give National Socialism a religious dimension. One slogan of his was: Also above India hovers the sun-sign of the Swastika.

    To Wüst, Hitler appeared as the manifestation of a Chakravartin – Indo-Aryan world emperor.

    Wüst tried to support this particular speculation by verses from classical Indian scriptures. Moreover, in one of his emotion-driven speeches, he compared Hitler with the historical Buddha.

    IB TIMES: Germany’s fascination with ancient India and its culture began in the 19th century, no? That is, long before the advent of the Nazis. Is it correct?

    MR. & MRS. TRIMONDI: Indeed, Germany had been a true center for Sanskrit studies in the nineteenth century. To be exact, there were scholars and writers in this field who either put the emphasis on the peaceful aspects of Indian culture (e.g. Johann Gottfried Herder and Friedrich Wilhelm Joseph Schelling) or pointed out the nihilistic side of Buddhism or Shankara philosophy (like Arthur Schopenhauer).

    However, with the radicalization of German nationalism, writers began to put more emphasis on the martial aspects of Hindu culture. One of the first who tried to blend the warrior ideology of ancient India with Aryan racism was Houston Stewart Chamberlain, an English-born author who lived in Germany and who was later held in a high esteem by the Nazis.

    IB TIMES: Is it true that Himmler could read and speak Sanskrit fluently? Where and how did he learn such a difficult foreign language?

    MR. & MRS. TRIMONDI: We do not have any evidence that he mastered Sanskrit. However, Himmler did not need to read this ancient tongue since he always had Wüst by his side.

    By constantly interacting with Himmler, Wüst was directly involved in his philosophical and ideological projects, and he could provide an answer to any linguistic questions coming from the Reichsführer SS.

    IB TIMES: As Reichsführer of the SS, Chief of the German Police, Minister of the Interior and head of the Gestapo and the Einsatzgruppen killing squads, Himmler was responsible for the murder of millions of innocent people. How did he reconcile such brutality with the tenets of Hinduism, which is generally peaceful?

    MR. & MRS. TRIMONDI: The image of Hinduism as a totally peaceful religion is a widespread fallacy. In fact, one can find plenty of martial aspects in Hindu culture, which had been emphasized by various individuals even before the Nazi period, during Hitler’s reign, and even today by the extreme right wing in Europe and elsewhere.

    For example, in his introduction to a popular edition of the Bhagavad Gita, Leopold Schroeder, a student of ancient India, wrote that this poem describes the powerful ethics of Kshatriya (Warrior) religion at a time when the warriors and kings of India provided a spiritual leadership instead of the priestly caste.

    It is very likely that Himmler used this particular edition of the Bhagavad Gita. It was the Kshatriya, the ancient Hindu warrior caste, and its ethical ideals that fascinated the Nazis so much among other elements of Indian history and culture.

    IB TIMES: Aside from millions of Jews, Himmler was also responsible for the mass murder of up to half-million Roma (gypsies). Was he not aware that the Roma are also of Indian descent?

    MR. & MRS. TRIMONDI: He must have known it. At the same time, we should remember that Western racist intellectuals usually divided Indian society into two castes: light-skinned Aryan conquerors (priests, warriors and merchants) and dark-skinned indigenous Dravidians or Chandalens — the latter expression goes back to a Sanskrit word Chandala – or, ‘The Untouchables.’ Himmler surely viewed the Roma as a part of this outcast group.

    IB TIMES: Bhagavad Gita partially focuses on the adventures of Arjuna, the world’s greatest warrior. Did Himmler fantasize that he was a 20th-century Arjuna fighting for the glory of the Aryans? Did Himmler view Hitler as his god Krishna – like a reincarnation of god Krishna?

    MR. & MRS. TRIMONDI: When speaking about the Aryan culture proper and the old German or Nordic gods, Himmler clearly viewed them as parts of the same spiritual ideology.

    In this sense, Himmler was indeed fighting for the glory of the Aryans. Thus, Himmler was convinced that the thunderbolts mentioned in both Indian and European mythologies were references to the super-weapons of Aryan Gods, who possessed incredible knowledge of electricity.

    However, we do not know whether Himmler identified himself with Arjuna or not. At the same time, considering the fact that he did indeed compare Hitler to Krishna, it is quite possible that he cast himself as the character of Arjuna.

    On one occasion, Himmler recited to other people the following passage from the Gita, in which Krishna says to Arjuna: Every time when man forgets the sense of justice and truth, and when injustice reigns in the world I become born anew, that is the law.

    Having read these words, Himmler added: This passage is directly related to our Führer. He did arise during the time when the Germans were in the deepest distress and when they did not see any way out. He belongs to these great figures of light (Lichtgestalt). One of the greatest figures of light reincarnated himself in our Führer.

    Based on this statement, one can assume that perhaps Himmler viewed Hitler as a manifestation of Krishna and himself as Arjuna.

    IB TIMES: Did Himmler envision the SS as a modern version of the ancient Kshatriya Hindu warrior caste?

    MR. & MRS. TRIMONDI: This was really a sensation what we discovered in the archives: In 1925, shortly before he became a member of Hitler’s SS, Himmler read about the Freemasons and anti-masons in Their Fight for World Domination by an Austrian writer named Franz Haiser.

    Strange as it may sound, the greater part of the book deals not with Freemasons but with the Indian caste system. Haiser praised this caste system as the most reasonable and the most sophisticated social model. He also glorified the Kshatriya (the Warrior) caste as the natural leaders in society.
    Haiser also compared the decline of the caste system in India to the decadence of Western culture. As a way to prevent this decline, the author proposed the creation of a well-organized, international and racially pure elite order of warriors that he called the All Aryan Union (all-arischer Bund).
    In addition, he advocated for an all-Aryan world revolution and for the emancipation of the Kshatriya from above.

    Haiser derided the so-called lower races as crows, rats, sparrows, louses and fleas and also endorsed the reintroduction of slavery.
    He envisioned a society in which the Kshatriyas would not be permitted to mingle with other races. In addition, he drew attention to the Hindu cosmology of global eras: the Yugas, the Holy Trinity of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva, and the Indian law code of Manu, which he interpreted as a guidebook on how to keep the Aryan race pure.

    After familiarizing himself with all these ideas Himmler wrote excitedly in his diary: A wonderful book […] I agree with most of it. One needs such books. They encourage those who instinctively feel what is right and what is wrong, but do not dare to think about it because of their false education. Kshatriya caste [is what] we have to be. This is the salvation.

    Two years later, in 1927, as a twenty-seven year old man, Himmler already came to occupy the high position of the Stellvertretender Reichsführer SS.

    Much of the agenda articulated in Haiser’s book could be found later in the ideology and the structure of the Black Order.

    Himmler was also familiar with the writings of the Italian philosopher Julius Evola, a fascist prophet of the Kshatriya ideology.

    IB TIMES: Is it true that Himmler always kept a copy of the Bhagavad Gita in his pocket and read passages from it every night?

    MR. & MRS. TRIMONDI: Yes, this is true. In fact, it has been well documented by Felix Kersten, his Finnish masseur, that Himmler liked to indulge in philosophical monologues in his presence. The Reichsführer SS called the Gita a high Aryan Canto.
    Kersten also reported that Himmler read the Vedas, especially the Rig-Veda, the speeches of the Buddha, and the Buddhist Visuddhi-magga. Himmler made frequent references to karma, especially when he was talking about providence.

    He also believed in reincarnation: With one life life is not finished. What good and bad deeds a man has done has an effect on his next life as his karma.

    IB TIMES: Discuss Himmler’s fascination with Yoga and what he sought to gain from this practice.

    MR. & MRS. TRIMONDI: The practice of Yoga was already well known during the Nazi regime — but we do not know whether Himmler did Yoga exercises or not. We only know about his plan to introduce meditation practices and spiritual retreats for the elite members of the SS in a special center located at Wewelsburg, a medieval castle.

    Himmler confided to Felix Kersten: I admire the wisdom of the founders of Indian religion, who required that their kings and dignitaries retreat every year to monasteries for meditation. We will later create similar institutions.

    IB TIMES: Did Himmler (and other top Nazi leaders) use the Bhagavad Gita as a kind of an ideological blueprint for the Holocaust and World War II?

    MR. & MRS. TRIMONDI: Several historians believe that Himmler’s notorious Posener Speech in front of a hundred SS officers in 1943 was highly influenced by the spirit of the Bhagavad Gita.

    In this particular speech, Himmler stressed that if the destiny of the nation called for it, every member of the SS had a duty to conduct drastic measures brutally and without pity and without regard to blood relationship and friendship.

    This utterance brought to mind the instructions Krishna issued to Arjuna, demanding from the latter to attack his kin and kill them.
    In the same speech, after mentioning unworthy human beings who were going to be murdered (an indirect reference to the Jews), Himmler assured his listeners: These deeds do not inflict any damage on our inner selves, our souls, and our characters. In the same manner, Krishna assured Arjuna that the latter acts would not pollute his higher self by completing his murderous duty: Whatever I do, it cannot pollute me. […] The one who merges with me, frees himself from everything, and he is not bound by his deeds

    Thus, Himmler encouraged the members of the SS to conduct their murderous acts, unemotionally in a cool detached manner just as Krishna instructed the charioteer Arjuna.

    On the whole, the Posener Speech was focused on the spiritual dimensions of war and the conduct of the warrior, which is the chief element of the Kshatriya philosophy of Hinduism.
    The German diplomat and undercover U.S. agent in Nazi-Germany Hans Bernd Gisevius concluded: There is no doubt that for Himmler the Bhagavad Gita is the book of the Great Absolution.

    IB TIMES: During the war, there was a community of Indian nationalists living in Berlin. The most prominent among them was Subhash Chandra Bose, who met with many top Nazi officials, including Himmler, Ribbentrop, Goering and Hitler himself. Is it true that Himmler was generally interested in helping Bose to achieve independence for India, whereas most of the other German leaders only used Bose in a ploy to stoke anti-British sentiments in India?

    MR. & MRS. TRIMONDI: Unlike other Nazi leaders, Himmler and the curator of the SS-Ahnenerbe Walther Wüst, provided some ideological support to Bose’s political agenda.
    Wüst spoke about the need to work closely with Bose and contemplated holding a German-Indian congress of Indian scholars representing both countries.
    Yet, except for these utterances, neither Himmler nor Wüst did anything specific to support Indian nationalists.

    Bose delivered an emotional speech for British soldiers of Indian origin, who were captured by the Wehrmacht in Africa and who were held in Germany as POWs. He said to them: Hitler is your friend. He is the friend of the Aryans, and you will return to India as the liberators of your motherland.
    The Indian Kshatriya legacy was not the only Oriental culture that attracted Himmler and his ideologists when they were working to construct their racist Indo-Aryan warrior religion.

    In addition to Hinduism, the Reichsführer SS was also interested in the militant Samurai Zen philosophy of Japan as well as the occult scriptures of Tibetan Buddhism.
    Indeed, one of the goals of the famous SS expedition to Tibet headed by Ernst Schaefer in 1939 was to find in the Lamaist monasteries scrolls containing secret Aryan teachings.

    See: http://www.trimondi.de

  26. Face_The_Truth says:

    This message is for Ron_the_Christian:

    [The Interview and the books by these researchers into Himmler’s diaries clearly show that the Nazis derived and were inspired by evil from the Manu Smriti, Vedas and Bhadgvad Geeta.]

    THE ABOVE IS A FALSE STATEMENT (I.E., PROPAGANDA) FROM REVISIONIST CHRISTIAN CHURCH IN OUR MODERN TIME.

    NAZISM DERIVED GENOCIDAL IDEOLOGY TO MURDER SPECIFICALLY MILLIONS OF JEWS FROM BOTH OLD TESTAMENT AND NEW TESTAMENT.

    IF “HINDUISM” HAD A SCINTILLA OF GENOCIDAL IDEOLOGY FOR SPECIFICALLY MURDERING JEWS, THERE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ANY JEW LEFT IN INDIAN SUBCONTINENT SINCE TIME IMMEMORIAL.

    IF “HINDUISM” HAD A SCINTILLA OF GENOCIDAL IDEOLOGY TO MURDER NON-“HINDUS”, THERE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ANY CHRISTIAN AND MUSLIM ALIVE TODAY IN INDIAN SUBCONTINENT AT LEAST SINCE INDEPENDENCE.

    [“More than 65 years after the fall of the Third Reich, Nazi Germany remains an obsession with millions of people around the world.
    Adolf Hitler was one of the most prominent historical figures from the 20th century, evoking both disgust and fascination. While other totalitarian regimes from that period — including Fascist Italy and Imperial Japan — have largely faded from the public’s consciousness, Nazi Germany still exerts a powerful hold on many for a variety of reasons.
    Among the most interesting and perplexing aspects of the Nazi regime was its connection to India and Hinduism. Indeed, Hitler embraced one of the most prominent symbols of ancient India — the swastika — as his own.

    The link between Nazi Germany and ancient India, however, goes deeper than just the swastika.]

    THE ABOVE QUOTATIONS FROM REVISIONIST HISTORY WRITERS ARE COMPLETELY FALSE IN MATERIALITY.

    SWASTIKA IS NOT A SIGN OF GENOCIDE.

    NEVER WAS.

    BUDDHISTS AND JAINS ADOPTED SWASTIKA SIGN AND, WE ALL KNOW FROM HISTORY THAT, BUDDHISTS AND JAINS PRACTICED “AHIMSA”, NOT GENOCIDE OF NON-BELIEVERS.

    HIGH RANKING GERMAN NAZIS WERE ALL BORN AND BROUGHT UP IN CHRISTIANITY, NOT IN “HINDUISM” (I.E., SANATANA DHARMA).

    IN FACT, FÜHRER ADOLF HITLER DID NOT EXTEND ANY MILITARY SUPPORT IN TERMS OF ARMS AND LOGISTICS TO NETAJI SUBHAS CHANDRA BOSE TO DEFEAT BRITISH CHRISTIAN IMPERIALISTS IN INDIAN SUBCONTINENT.

    IF CHRISTIAN NAZI GERMANY WERE SO FASCINATED BY “HINDUISM”, THERE WOULD HAVE DIRECT MILITARY ALLIANCE OF ARMS AND LOGISTICS AMONGST INDIAN REVOLUTIONARIES WITH THE SOLDIERS OF NAZI (I.E., CHRISTIAN) GERMANY.

    THERE’S NO SUCH MILITARY ALLIANCE IN ANY HISTORICAL RECORD.

    NOW, AFTER LOSING THE SECOND WORLD WAR TO ATHEIST SOVIET UNION, THE “SUPER HOLY” CHRISTIAN CHURCH AND WESTERN CHRISTIAN MEDIA INVENTED FALSE STORIES OF IDEOLOGICAL ALLAINCE BETWEEN NAZI (I.E., CHRISTIAN) GERMANY AND “HINDUISM” (I.E., SANATANA DHARMA) WHEN, IN FACT, THE “SUPER HOLY” CHRISTIAN CHURCH NEVER EXCOMMUNICATED ANY LIVING NAZI GERMAN OFFICER BOTH DURING AND AFTER THE SECOND WORLD WAR.

    NAZI GERMANY ACTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH BOTH OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT TO EXTERMINATE ALL JEWS OF EUROPE.

    THAT IS THE HISTORICAL TRUTH.

    NOW, THE “SUPER HOLY” CHRISTIAN CHURCH FEELS ASHAMED OF ITS MISDEEDS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR AND, THEREFORE, HAS CONCOCTED THE FALSE STORIES OF ALLAINCE BETWEEN “HINDUISM” (I.E., SANATANA DHARMA) AND NAZISM (I.E., CHRISTIANITY).

    [The Nazis venerated the notion of a pure, noble Aryan race, who are believed to have invaded India thousands of years ago from Central Asia and established a martial society based on a rigid social structure with strict caste distinctions.
    While scholars in both India and Europe have rejected and debunked the notion of an Aryan race, the myths and legends of ancient Vedic-Hindu India have had a tremendous influence on many nations, none more so than Germany.]

    THE ABOVE IS PRECISELY THE LINE OF “HISTORICAL” THINKING FROM THE SCHOOLS OF PROF. ROMILA THAPAR AND MANY OTHER INDIAN “HINDUS” TODAY WHO HATE THEMSELVES FOR BEING BORN “HINDUS”.

    FIRST OF ALL, ANYONE WHO HAS AN EYE AND CAN SEE WILL NOTICE THAT THERE ARE DISTINCTIVE PHYSICAL APPEARANCES IN A CAUCASIAN HUMAN (E.G., A GERMAN) AND A MIXED-RACE HUMAN (E.G., A PERSON OF INDIAN SUBCONTINENT).

    GERMAN NAZIS (I.E., CHRISTIANS) WOULD NOT HAVE ENAMOURED WITH MIXED-RACE INDIANS IF THERE WERE AN ISSUE OF RACIAL PURITY.

    A CAUCASIAN HUMAN AND A MIXED-RACE HUMAN HAVE VERY DISTINCTIVE LOOKS!!!

    FOR MILLENNIA AFTER MILLENNIA, MIGRATORY HUMANS FROM EUROPE, FROM AFRICA, FROM EAST ASIA, FROM MIDDLE EAST OR, IN OTHER WORD, FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD CAME TO INDIAN SUBCONTINENT AND INTERMINGLED.

    AND, THAT’S WHY INDIANS TODAY ARE LITERALLY “MELTING POTS” OF ALL RACES FROM ALL AROUND THE WORLD.

    IF “HINDUISM” WERE SELECTIVE OR PREFERENTIAL TO ANY PARTICULAR RACIAL FEATURE, WHEN “HINDU” MAURYA DYNASTY WAS THE GREATEST MILITARY POWER AT ITS PEAK, THE “HINDU” MAURYA DYNASTY COULD HAVE MILITARILY EXTERMINATED ALL PEOPLE OF UNDESIRABLE RACIAL FEATURES AND PHYSICAL APPEARANCES.

    BUT, “HINDUISM” (I.E., SANATANA DHARMA) IS NOT NAZISM (I.E., CHRISTIANITY).

    NEVER WAS AND NEVER WILL BE.

    THE ARYAN INVASION THEORY IS A EUROPEAN THEORY OF MASS MURDER, MASS RAPE, AND MASS EXTERMINATION BASED ON BOTH OLD TESTAMENT AND NEW TESTAMENT.

    INDIAN “HINDUS” DID NOT INVENT ARYAN INVASION THEORY.

    BRITISH CHRISTIAN IMPERIALISTS IMPREGNATED MANY BRITISH-EDUCATED INDIANS WITH ARYAN INVASION THEORY DURING THE 150 YEARS OF BRITISH CHRISTIAN RULE.

    THE PURPOSE WAS TO HUMILIATE INDIAN NATIVE “HINDU” PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING THAT EVERYTHING THAT GOOD ABOUT INDIA WAS BROUGHT AND INTRODUCED BY FOREIGNERS.

    [Perhaps the most fervent Nazi adherent to Indian Hinduism was Heinrich Himmler, one of the most brutal members of the senior command.
    Himmler, directly responsible for the deaths of millions of Jews and others as the architect of the Holocaust, was a complex and fascinating man. He was also obsessed with India and Hinduism.]

    THE ABOVE ARE FALSE REVISIONIST STATEMENTS FROM CHRISTIAN CHURCH AND WESTERN CHRISTIAN MEDIA THAT WANT TO HIDE ITS SORDID PAST.

    [International Business Times spoke with two experts on German culture to explore Himmler and Hinduism. Victor and Victoria Trimondi are German cultural philosophers and writers. They have published books on religious and political topics, including Hitler-Buddha-Krishna-An Unholy Alliance from the Third Reich to the Present Day (2002), a research about the efforts by National-Socialists and Fascists to construct a racist Indo-Aryan warrior ideology with strong roots in Eastern religions and philosophies.]

    I HAVE ALREADY SHOWED TO ALL READERS OF FAITHFREEDOM.ORG WEBSITE THAT THERE WAS NO ALLIANCE — WHETHER MILITARY OR CULTURAL — BETWEEN “HINDUISM” (I.E., SANATANA DHARMA) AND NAZISM (I.E., CHRISTIANITY).

    FOR MILITARY EXAMPLE, CHRISTIAN NAZI GERMANY DID NOT PROVIDE ANY LOGISTICAL MILITARY SUPPORT TO INDIAN “HINDU” REVOLUTIONARIES SUCH AS S.C. BOSE OR M.N. ROY OR V.D. SAVARKAR.

    FOR CULTURAL EXAMPLE, CHRISTIANS NAZIS HAD NO RESTRICTION EATING COW-MEAT WHEREAS “HINDUISM” (I.E., SANATANA DHARMA) DOES NOT ENCOURAGE HUMAN CONSUMPTION OF COW-MEAT FOR VARIOUS REASONS.

    NOW, THE REAL REASON WHY “SUPER HOLY” CHRISTIAN CHURCH AND WESTERN CHRISTIAN MEDIA CONVOLUTE “HINDUISM” (I.E., SANATANA DHARMA) WITH NAZISM (I.E., CHRISTIANITY) IS MANY INDIAN “HINDU” REVOLUTIONARIES EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR NAZI BOMBING OF THE UNITED KINGDOM DURING SECOND WORLD WAR.

    MANY INDIAN “HINDU” REVOLUTIONARIES ADOPTED “MY ENEMY’S ENEMY IS MY FRIEND” PRINCIPLE, WHICH HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH “HINDUISM” (I.E., SANATANA DHARMA) TO BECOME EQUAL WITH NAZISM (I.E., CHRISTIANITY) IN REALITY.

    AMERICAN GOVT. ALLIED WITH THE GOVT. OF SOVIET UNION DURING SECOND WORLD WAR WHEN WE ALL KNOW THAT AMERICA WAS (IS) NOT SOVIET UNION, BECAUSE AMERICA WAS (IS) OF CAPITALIST PRINCIPLES AND SOVIET UNION WAS COMMUNIST IDEOLOGY.

    [Face the truth, et al you need Christ very much without which this hatred towards other human beings can grow out of control.]

    NO, CHRISTIAN .

    I DO NOT NEED YOUR JESUS CHRIST.

    BECAUSE, YOUR JESUS CHRIST WAS A SON OF WHORE AND YOU CHRISTIANS ARE NOTHING BUT REVSIONIST LIARS.

    [Christianity and other religions is so much indoctrinated in you that you really need help. Only Christ can remove this evil thinking in you.]

    NO, CHRISTIAN

    I DO NOT NEED YOUR JESUS CHRIST.

    BECAUSE, YOUR JESUS CHRIST WAS A SON OF WHORE AND YOU CHRISTIANS ARE NOTHING BUT REVSIONIST LIARS.

    [Nazis were VERY evil. Even Gandhi supported the British against Hitler and the Nazis, though hardcore Hindus supported the Nazis and still venerate or are inspired by Hitler.]

    M.K. GANDHI WAS A BRITISH STOOGE; SO, M.K. GANDHI ALWAYS ACTED AS THE MOST INSIDIOUS TRAITOR OF “HINDUISM” (I.E., SANATANA DHARMA).

    “HINDU” REVOLUTIONARY PATRIOTS DID NOT SUPPORT SECRETIVE NAZI (I.E., CHRISTIAN) GENOCIDE OF EUROPEAN JEWS AND GYPSIES.

    “HINDU” REVOLUTIONARY PATRIOTS SUPPORTED NAZI (I.E., CHRISTIAN) GERMANY BOMBING GREAT BRITAIN TO BRING GREAT BRITAIN TO ITS KNEES.

    CHRISTIANITY IS BASED ON FALSEHOODS AND NAZISM WAS BASED ON CHRISTIANITY.

    [All the examples of HEINRICH HIMMLER, JOSEF GOEBBELS, REINHARD HEYDRICH, HEINRICH MULLER, REINHARD GEHLEN, FRANZ VON PAPEN, KLAUS BARBIE, HANS FRANK, JOSEF KRAMER, JULIUS STREICHER, RUDOLF HÖSS, MARTIN BORMANN as Christians perpetrating evil is fallacious and disingenuous.]

    NO, TELLING TRUTH IS NOT FALLACIOUS AND OR DISINGENUOUS.

    NAZIS WERE CHRISTIANS AS USAMAH BIN LADEN WAS MUSLIM.

    [The Nazis were occultists and were out against the Jews as well as against Christians.]

    THE ABOVE IS REVISIONIST CHRISTIAN VERSION TO ESCAPE FROM HISTORICAL STIGMA ASSOCIATED WITH NAZI (I.E., CHRISTIAN) GENOCIDE OF MILLIONS OF EUROPEAN JEWS AND GYPSIES DURING SECOND WORLD WAR.

    [Nazi Germany closed all Christian and Catholic schools. They allowed only the public schools. Hitler and the Nazis specially Himmler derived and used the unjust laws of Manu Smriti to codify his anti-human laws.]

    MANUSMRITI WAS TRANSLATED BY CHRISTIANS INTO ENGLISH AND OTHER EUROPEAN LANGUAGES SO THAT BRITISH CHRISTIAN IMPERIALISTS COULD DESTROY INDIAN “HINDUS” CULTURALLY.

    THE WORD “SMRITI” MEANS MEMORY, WHICH MEANS WHEN MANUSMRITI OR ANY OTHER SMRITI WAS — IF AT ALL — PROPAGATED, THERE WAS NO HUMAN WRITING ABILITY.

    OTHERWISE, WHY WOULD ANYONE CALL SOMETHING “SMRITI” (I.E., MEMORY OR MEMORIZATION)?

    “HINDUISM” (I.E., SANATANA DHARMA) WAS (IS) NOT GOVERNED BY “SMIRITI” (I.E., MEMORY OR MOMEORIZATION).

    TO BE EFFECTIVE, ANY “HINDU” LAW MUST BE LOGICAL AS WELL AS PURPOSEFUL, ACCORDING TO “HINDUISM” (I.E., SANATANA DHARMA) .

    IF GERMAN NAZIS (I.E., CHRISTIANS) ADOPTED MANUSMRITI, WHICH I VERY MUCH DOUBT, THAT WILL BE A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF MANY A CHRISTIAN PERVERSION.

    CHRISTIANS DO HAVE PERVERTED MINDS; BECAUSE, CHRISTIANITY IS BASED ON LIES AFTER LIES.

    [Hitler was NOT a Christian. He hated Christianity. If he made any public remarks in support of Christianity, that was because he was in public and would lie or obfuscate to appease a crowd at times.]

    SAUDI GOVERNMENT IS AN ALLY OF AMERICAN GOVERNMENT AND SAUDI GOVERNMENT SAYS THAT USAMAH BIN LADEN WAS NOT A MUSLIM.

    SO, IT LOOKS LIKE CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS ARE LYING LIARS.

    [You should read Hitler’s Table Talk which is a compilation of sayings by Hitler in private conversations that were recorded by other Nazis. It is a good source for what Hitler really thought.]

    THERE ARE SO MUCH REVISIONISM FROM THE “SUPER HOLY” CHRISTIAN CHURCH AFTER THE DEFEAT OF NAZI (I.E., CHRISTIAN) GERMANY THAT THIS THREAD IS NOT SUITABLE TO GO IN GREATER LENGTH TO REFUTE EVERY REVISIONIST HISTORY WRITER OF “SUPER HOLY” CHRISTIAN CHURCH AND WELL-FUNDED WESTERN CHRISTIAN MEDIA WHICH ARE TRYING TO WHITE-WASH SO MANY DREADED DARK-SPOTS OF CHRISTIAN HISTORY.

    FOR EXAMPLE, THERE ARE CHRISTIAN WRITERS WHO WRITE THAT ONLY 70 NON-BELIEVERS WERE BURNED ALIVE WHO DISBELIEVED IN CHRISTIANITY DURING THE MILLENNIA-LONG INQUISITION.

    FOR EXAMPLE, THERE ARE CHRISTIAN WRITERS WHO WRITE THAT NAZIS (I.E., CHRISTIANS) WERE NOT CHRISTIANS, RATHER WERE “HINDUS”; BECAUSE, BOTH “HINDUS” AND NAZIS (I.E., CHRISTIANS) HAVE SANSKRIT SVASTIKA, WHICH MEANS “GOOD FORTUNE” OR “WELL-BEING”, SIGN WHILE IGNORING THE FACT THAT BUDDHISTS AND JAINS HAVE SVASTIKA TOO AND, AS A RESULT, NAZIS (I.E., CHRISTIANS) COULD PROBABLY HAVE BEEN INSPIRED BY BUDDHISTS OR JAINS TOO.

    BUT, UNFORTUNATELY, BUDDHISTS AND JAINS ARE SUPPOSED TO PRACTICE NON-VIOLENCE (I.E., AHIMSA) AND THAT DOESN’T FIT WELL WITH CHRISTIAN REVISIONISM.

    ALSO, THE ABOVE EXAMPLE IS SIMILAR TO SAYING THAT THE IDEOLOGY OF ISLAM HAS NOTHING TO DO TODAY WITH VIOLENCE AGAINST NON-BELIEVERS.

    IN REALITY, CHRISTIAN CHURCH CANNOT RUN FROM ITS VIOLENT PAST, SO CHRISTIAN CHURCH HAS BEEN TRYING SO HARD BY BLAME-SHIFTING IN ORDER TO HIDE FROM ITS VIOLENT HISTORY FOR QUITE SOME TIME BY EQUATING NAZISM (I.E., CHRISTIANITY) WITH “HINDUISM” (I.E., SANATANA DHARMA).

    [In fact when most countries in the whole world were against the Nazis in WWII, the forces which were pro-Nazi and pro-fascist Japan were the Hindu RSS, Indian National Army of Bose etc.]

    I ALREADY ANSWERED IT.

    GO BACK AND READ MY ABOVE COMMENTS AGAIN.

    [The RSS saw themselves as of Aryan descent and supported the Nazis instead of the British. The RSS and the Nazis both had the swastika as their symbols.]

    ABSOLUTELY FALSE STATEMENT.

    PLEASE READ MY ANSWERS ABOVE.

    [The current BJP is the successor of the Bharatiya Jana Sangh (BJS) party, which itself was the political arm of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, a group that espoused openly militant Hindu activism and the suppression of minorities in India.]

    THIS IS FALSE CHRISTIAN-MUSLIM PROPAGANDA IN ORDER TO DIVIDE AND PARTITION AND DESTROY INDIA.

    [What may surprise many in the West is that some of the most prominent figures of RSS deeply admired Fascism and Nazism, the two totalitarian movements that swept through Europe at the time.]

    “MY ENEMY’S ENEMY IS MY FRIEND” IS AN OLD DOCTRINE OF WAR.

    IF NAZI (I.E., CHRISTIAN) GERMANY MILITARILY DESTROYED BRITISH CHRISTIAN IMPERIALISM, IT WAS A GREAT HISTORICAL BENEFIT TO PRE-INDEPENDENCE INDIAN “HINDUS”.

    IF ATHEIST SOVIET UNION DESTROYED NAZI (I.E., CHRISTIAN) GERMANY, IT WAS A GREAT HISTORICAL BENEFIT TO EUROPEAN JEWS AND GYPSIES.

    BRITISH STOOGE M.K. GANDHI DID NOT BRING FREEDOM AND INDEPENDENCE TO INDIAN “HINDUS”; NAZI (I.E., CHRISTIAN) GERMANY DID BY BOMBING GREAT BRITAIN DURING SECOND WORLD WAR.

    SO, FÜHRER ADOLF HITLER DESERVES HISTORICAL RECOGNITION FOR INDIRECTLY HELPING INDIA GAIN INDEPENDENCE.

    [As such, RSS was outlawed by the British (and was even periodically banned by the Indian government after independence). Indeed, Naturam Godse, the man who assassinated Gandhi in 1948, was himself a former RSS member who felt that the Mahatma made too many generous concessions to the Muslims.]

    BRITISH CHRISTIAN IMPERALISTS OUTLAWED “HINDU” ORGANIZATIONS AND PROPAGATED MUSLIMS AT THE EXPENSE OF INDIAN “HINDUS”.

    THERE’S NOTHING NEW TO LEARN FROM YOUR STATEMENT THAT ALL CONSCIENTIOUS INDIAN “HINDUS” DID NOT KNOW ALREADY.

    NATHURAM VINAYAK GODSE DID THE MOST PATRIOTIC THING BY SLAUGHTERING A BRITISH STOOGE NAMED M.K. GANDHI WHO WAS THE MOST INSIDIOUS TRAITOR “HINDUISM” HAS EVER KNOWN IN TIME IMMEMORIAL.

    [In the decades prior to that momentous event, senior RSS members had direct links to both Benito Mussolini in Italy and Adolf Hitler in Germany. Part of the RSS’ fascination with these totalitarian regimes was their shared opposition to the British Empire — however, it went far beyond that. The RSS (as well as multitudes of other Hindu nationalists) admired the way Mussolini and Hitler reorganized their respective nations so quickly from the wreckage of war to build a powerful economy and military under the banner of patriotism and nationalism.]

    I ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT MY ENEMY’S ENEMY IS MY FRIEND IF MY ENEMY’E ENEMY HELPS ME — EITHER INDIRECTLY OR DIRECTLY — GAIN INDEPENDENCE FROM FOREIGN INVADERS.

    THAT DOESN’T MEAN NAZISM (I.E., CHRISTIANITY) IS AKIN TO “HINDUISM” (I.E., SANATANA DHARMA) IN ANY WAY OR FORM.

    SOVIET UNION AND AMERICA DEFEATED NAZI (I.E., CHRISTIAN) GERMANY; THAT DOESN’T MEAN SOVIET UNION AND AMERICA ARE ONE AND SAME THING.

    [With respect to Hitler and Nazism, the links to India and Hinduism were deeper and more profound. Much of Nazi ideology and imagery came from the symbols and history of ancient India – indeed, the infamous Nazi swastika was based on a Hindu symbol of strength and good fortune.]

    ABSOLUTE FALSEHOOD SIMILAR TO MANY OTHER CHRISTIAN FALSEHOODS IN ORDER TO WHITEWASH BLOODY CHRISTIAN HISTORY.

    [Moreover, the legendary history (some would say, myth) of the invasion of prehistoric India by the mysterious “Aryan” tribes would (centuries later) provide Hitler with his notion of a “super master race” that was destined to dominate the world.]

    ARYAN INVASION THEORY WAS INVENTED BY EUROPEAN CHRISTIANS.

    [During World War II, some Indian nationalists received explicit support from German Nazis — in fact, some Indian soldiers even served in Hitler’s armies and in the notorious SS.]

    NO, THERE’S NO DOCUMENTED HISTORICAL FACT THAT INDIAN “HINDUS” SERVED IN NAZI (I.E., CHRISTIAN) CONCENTRATION CAMPS.

    [Marzia Casolari, an Italian scholar who studied Indian politics, once wrote of RSS’ connections with European fascism: The existence of direct contacts between the representatives of the [Italian] Fascist regime, including Mussolini, and Hindu nationalists demonstrates that Hindu nationalism had much more than an abstract interest in the ideology and practice of fascism. The interest of Indian Hindu nationalists in fascism and Mussolini must not be considered as dictated by an occasional curiosity, confined to a few individuals; rather, it should be considered as the culminating result of the attention that Hindu nationalists… focused on Italian dictatorship and its leader. To them, fascism appeared to be an example of conservative revolution.
    Perhaps there was no greater admirer of Hitler and Mussolini in India than Vinayak Damodar Savarkar, another leading member of RSS.]

    THESE ARE “SUPER HOLY” CHRISTIAN CHURCH’S DESPERATE ATTEMPTS TO REVITALIZE AGE-OLD FALSEHOODS.

    CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS ARE TRYING TO DESTROY MODERN-DAY INDIA FROM WITHIN.

    SO, NOW HISTORICAL REVISIONISM HAS TAKEN PLACE AMONGST SELF-HATING INDIAN “HINDUS” ALONG WITH SEDITIOUS INDIAN MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS.

    [In a speech delivered in 1940 (after the Second World War had commenced), Savarkar said: There is no reason to suppose that Hitler must be a human monster because he passes off as a Nazi or Churchill is a demigod because he calls himself a Democrat. Nazism proved undeniably the savior of Germany under the set of circumstances Germany was placed in.]

    I’VE ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT MY ENEMY’S ENEMY IS MY FRIEND.

    INDIAN “HINDUS” DID NOT SUPPORT NAZI (I.E., CHRISTIAN) GENOCIDE OF EUROPEAN JEWS AND GYPSIES; BECAUSE, SIMPLY STATED, EUROPEAN JEWS AND GYPSIES WERE NOT ENEMIES OF INDIAN “HINDUS”.

    [“Surely Hitler knows better than Pandit Nehru does what suits Germany best. The very fact that Germany or Italy has so wonderfully recovered and grown so powerful as never before at the touch of Nazi or Fascist magical wand is enough to prove that those political ‘isms’ were the most congenial tonics their health demanded.”]

    J.L. NEHRU WAS NOT A “PANDIT” BY ANY “HINDU” RELIGIOUS STANDARD.

    J.L. NEHRU WAS A MUSLIM BY BIRTH.

    [If you admit that Nazism is evil then you must by extension admit that Hinduism is evil.]

    NAZISM WAS CHRISTIANITY.

    “HINDUISM” (I.E., SANATANA DHARMA) IS NEVER NAZISM (I.E., CHRISTIANITY) ALTHOUGH I WILL NOT SHED TRARS IF INDIAN “HINDUS” SEND ALL SEDITIOUS INDIAN MUSLIMS AND INDIAN CHRISTIANS TO PAKISTAN, BANGLADESH, AND AFGHANISTAN IN ORDER TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT MODERN-DAY INDIA FROM FURTHER PARTITION AND DESTRUCTION.

    [The hatred towards Christ and Christianity and other religions is so much indoctrinated in you that you really need help. Only Christ can remove this evil thinking in you. You will then start loving human beings irrespective of their religion, nationality, race, gender, orientation etc. The only man who was sinless and gave life to the dead, never shed other people blood, did miracles, died and rose again is Jesus. He was man. He was God.]

    I ALREADY TOLD YOU MANY TIMES THAT YOUR JESUS CHRIST WAS A SON OF A WHORE AND YOUR CHRISTIANITY IS NOTHING BUT LIES AFTER LIES ON HUMAN HISTORY AND HUMAN DECENCY.

  27. Ron says:

    The Interview and the books by these researchers into Himmlers diaries clearly show that the Nazis derived and were inspired by evil from the Manu Smriti, Vedas and Bhadgvad Geeta.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/heinrich-himmler-nazi-hindu-214444

    More than 65 years after the fall of the Third Reich, Nazi Germany remains an obsession with millions of people around the world.

    Adolf Hitler was one of the most prominent historical figures from the 20th century, evoking both disgust and fascination. While other totalitarian regimes from that period — including Fascist Italy and Imperial Japan — have largely faded from the public’s consciousness, Nazi Germany still exerts a powerful hold on many for a variety of reasons.

    Among the most interesting and perplexing aspects of the Nazi regime was its connection to India and Hinduism. Indeed, Hitler embraced one of the most prominent symbols of ancient India — the swastika — as his own.

    The link between Nazi Germany and ancient India, however, goes deeper than just the swastika.

    The Nazis venerated the notion of a pure, noble Aryan race, who are believed to have invaded India thousands of years ago from Central Asia and established a martial society based on a rigid social structure with strict caste distinctions.

    While scholars in both India and Europe have rejected and debunked the notion of an Aryan race, the myths and legends of ancient Vedic-Hindu India have had a tremendous influence on many nations, none more so than Germany.

    Perhaps the most fervent Nazi adherent to Indian Hinduism was Heinrich Himmler, one of the most brutal members of the senior command.

    Himmler, directly responsible for the deaths of millions of Jews and others as the architect of the Holocaust, was a complex and fascinating man. He was also obsessed with India and Hinduism.

    International Business Times spoke with two experts on German culture to explore Himmler and Hinduism.

    Victor and Victoria Trimondi are German cultural philosophers and writers. They have published books on religious and political topics, including Hitler-Buddha-Krishna-An Unholy Alliance from the Third Reich to the Present Day (2002), a research about the efforts by National-Socialists and Fascists to construct a racist Indo-Aryan warrior ideology with strong roots in Eastern religions and philosophies.

    Face the truth, et al you need Christ very much without which this hatred towards other human beings can grow out of control.

  28. Ron says:

    @FACE THE TRUTH et al.
    The hatred towards Christ and Christianity and other religions is so much indoctrinated in you that you really need help. Only Christ can remove this evil thinking in you.

    Nazis were VERY evil. Even Gandhi supported the British against Hitler and the Nazis, though hardcore Hindus supported the Nazis and still venerate or are inspired by Hitler.

    All the examples of HEINRICH HIMMLER, JOSEF GOEBBELS, REINHARD HEYDRICH, HEINRICH MULLER, REINHARD GEHLEN , FRANZ VON PAPEN , KLAUS BARBIE ,HANS FRANK ,JOSEF KRAMER ,JULIUS STREICHER ,RUDOLF HÖSS, MARTIN BORMANN as Christians perpetrating evil is fallacious and disingenuous. The Nazis were occultists and were out against the Jews as well as against Christians.

    Nazi Germany closed all Christian and Catholic schools. They allowed only the public schools.
    Hitler and the Nazis specially Himmler derived and used the unjust laws of Manu Smriti to codify his anti-human laws.

    Hitler was NOT a Christian. He hated Christianity. If he made any public remarks in support of Christianity, that was because he was in public and would lie or obfuscate to appease a crowd at times.

    You should read Hitler’s Table Talk which is a compilation of sayings by Hitler in private conversations that were recorded by other Nazis. It is a good source for what Hitler really thought.

    Hitler was opposed to atheism because he was a spiritual man: “atheism… is a return to the state of the animal…” (Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 59). But opposition to atheism doesn’t make anyone a Christian. Nazism was his religion, an authentic religion of his own creation (yes, life is SO much better when people create their own personal religions in a search for “authenticity,” ha).

    “…the only way of getting rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 61
    “It’s Christianity that’s the liar. It’s in perpetual conflict with itself.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 61
    “In the long run, National Socialism and religion will no longer be able to exist together.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 6
    “Kerrl, with the noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don’t believe the thing’s possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 145

    “As far as we are concerned, we’ve succeeded in chasing the Jews from our midst and excluding Christianity from our political life.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 394

    “There is something very unhealthy about Christianity.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 418

    “The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity. Christianity is a prototype of Bolshevism: the mobilisation by the Jew of the masses of slaves with the object of undermining society. Thus one understands that the healthy elements of the Roman world were proof against this doctrine.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 75-76

    “When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let’s be the only people who are immunised against the disease.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 145

    “Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity. It will last another hundred years, two hundred years perhaps. My regret will have been that I couldn’t, like whoever the prophet was, behold the promised land from afar. We are entering into a conception of the world that will be a sunny era, an era of tolerance.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 343-344

    “Pure Christianity—the Christianity of the catacombs—is concerned with translating the Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 146

    “Christianity is the worst of the regressions that mankind can ever have undergone, and it’s the Jew who, thanks to this diabolic invention, has thrown him back fifteen centuries.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 322

    “The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity. Bolshevism practises a lie of the same nature, when it claims to bring liberty to men, whereas in reality it seeks only to enslave them. In the ancient world, the relations between men and gods were founded on an instinctive respect. It was a world enlightened by the idea of tolerance. Christianity was the first creed in the world to exterminate its adversaries in the name of love. Its key-note is intolerance.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 7

    In fact when most countries in the whole world were against the Nazis in WWII, the forces which were pro-Nazi and pro-fascist Japan were the Hindu RSS, Indian National Army of Bose etc.

    The RSS saw themselves as of Aryan descent and supported the Nazis instead of the British. The RSS and the Nazis both had the swastika as their symbols.

    The BJP the present govt in power in India has a very interesting history — officially formed in 1980, its history can be traced much further back to the pre-1947 era when Hindu nationalists not only demanded an independent India, but one completely dominated by Hindus.

    The current BJP is the successor of the Bharatiya Jana Sangh (BJS) party, which itself was the political arm of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, a group that espoused openly militant Hindu activism and the suppression of minorities in India.

    The RSS was founded in 1925 by Keshav Baliram Hedgewar, a doctor from the central Indian town of Nagpur in Maharashtra, who agitated for both independence from the British crown and the strict segregation of Hindus and Muslims.

    What may surprise many in the West is that some of the most prominent figures of RSS deeply admired Fascism and Nazism, the two totalitarian movements that swept through Europe at the time.
    As such, RSS was outlawed by the British (and was even periodically banned by the Indian government after independence). Indeed, Naturam Godse, the man who assassinated Gandhi in 1948, was himself a former RSS member who felt that the Mahatma made too many generous concessions to the Muslims.
    In the decades prior to that momentous event, senior RSS members had direct links to both Benito Mussolini in Italy and Adolf Hitler in Germany. Part of the RSS’ fascination with these totalitarian regimes was their shared opposition to the British Empire — however, it went far beyond that. The RSS (as well as multitudes of other Hindu nationalists) admired the way Mussolini and Hitler reorganized their respective nations so quickly from the wreckage of war to build a powerful economy and military under the banner of patriotism and nationalism.
    With respect to Hitler and Nazism, the links to India and Hinduism were deeper and more profound.
    Much of Nazi ideology and imagery came from the symbols and history of ancient India – indeed, the infamous Nazi swastika was based on a Hindu symbol of strength and good fortune. Moreover, the legendary history (some would say, myth) of the invasion of prehistoric India by the mysterious “Aryan” tribes would (centuries later) provide Hitler with his notion of a “super master race” that was destined to dominate the world.
    During World War II, some Indian nationalists received explicit support from German Nazis — in fact, some Indian soldiers even served in Hitler’s armies and in the notorious SS.
    Marzia Casolari, an Italian scholar who studied Indian politics, once wrote of RSS’ connections with European fascism: The existence of direct contacts between the representatives of the [Italian] Fascist regime, including Mussolini, and Hindu nationalists demonstrates that Hindu nationalism had much more than an abstract interest in the ideology and practice of fascism. The interest of Indian Hindu nationalists in fascism and Mussolini must not be considered as dictated by an occasional curiosity, confined to a few individuals; rather, it should be considered as the culminating result of the attention that Hindu nationalists… focused on Italian dictatorship and its leader. To them, fascism appeared to be an example of conservative revolution.
    Perhaps there was no greater admirer of Hitler and Mussolini in India than Vinayak Damodar Savarkar, another leading member of RSS.
    In a speech delivered in 1940 (after the Second World War had commenced), Savarkar said: There is no reason to suppose that Hitler must be a human monster because he passes off as a Nazi or Churchill is a demigod because he calls himself a Democrat. Nazism proved undeniably the savior of Germany under the set of circumstances Germany was placed in.

    Savarkar criticized Nehru for his staunch opposition to fascism.
    Who are we to dictate to Germany… or Italy to choose a particular form of policy of government simply?” Savarkar rhetorically asked.
    “Surely Hitler knows better than Pandit Nehru does what suits Germany best. The very fact that Germany or Italy has so wonderfully recovered and grown so powerful as never before at the touch of Nazi or Fascist magical wand is enough to prove that those political ‘isms’ were the most congenial tonics their health demanded.”
    Indeed, many Hindu nationalists also derided Gandhi for opposing Nazism and fascism. In 1939, a spokesman for the Hindu Mahasabha (Hindu Party) intimately connected Germany with Indian culture and people.
    Germany’s solemn idea of the revival of the Aryan culture, the glorification of the Swastika, her patronage of Vedic learning and the ardent championship of the tradition of Indo-Germanic civilization are welcomed by the religious and sensible Hindus of India with a jubilant hope,” the spokesman blustered.
    “Only a few Socialists headed by… Nehru have created a bubble of resentment against the present government of Germany, but their activities are far from having any significance in India.”
    He added: “Germany’s crusade against the enemies of Aryan culture will bring all the Aryan nations of the world to their senses and awaken the Indian Hindus for the restoration of their lost glory.
    While the RSS was not explicitly anti-Semitic (largely because India never had a large Jewish population), Savarkar even praised Hitler’s treatment of the Jews (at least before the death camps and ovens became known to the public at large).
    In 1938, during the time of accelerating anti-Jewish legislation in Germany, Savarkar suggested a similar fate for India’s Muslims.
    A nation is formed by a majority living therein,” he declared. “What did the Jews do in Germany? They being in minority were driven out from Germany.”
    Another senior RSS member, Madhav Sadashiv Golwalkar, also praised Nazism and believed the ideology should be applied to India.
    German race pride has now become the topic of the day,” he wrote.
    “To keep up the purity of the race and its culture, Germany shocked the world by her purging the country of the Semitic Races — the Jews. Race pride at its highest has been manifested here. Germany has also shown how well-nigh impossible it is for races and cultures, having differences going to the root, to be assimilated into one united whole, a good lesson for us in Hindustan [India] to learn and profit by.
    Golwalkar enthusiastically advocated for an India dominated by Hindus.

    “There are only two courses open to the foreign elements, either to merge themselves in the national race and adopt its culture, or to live at its mercy so long as the national race may allow them to do so and to quit the country at the sweet will of the national race,” he wrote.

    “That is the only sound view on the minorities problem. That is the only logical and correct solution. That alone keeps the national life healthy and undisturbed… The foreign races in Hindustan must either adopt the Hindu culture and language, must learn to respect and hold in reverence Hindu religion, must entertain no idea but those of the glorification of the Hindu race and culture, i.e., of the Hindu nation and must lose their separate existence to merge in the Hindu race, or may stay in the country, wholly subordinated to the Hindu Nation, claiming nothing, deserving no privileges, far less any preferential treatment not even citizen’s rights.”

    If one were to replace “Hindu” with “German,” Golwalkar’s words would match Hitler’s rhetoric almost exactly.
    Savarkar also spelled out why Hindus should rule India and others should either be expelled or merged into the Hindu majority.
    The Aryans who settled in India at the dawn of history already formed a nation, now embodied in the Hindus,” he wrote.
    “Hindus are bound together not only by the love they bear to a common fatherland and by the common blood that courses through their veins and keeps our hearts throbbing and our affection warm but also by the of the common homage we pay to our great civilization, our Hindu culture.
    During a speech given to Indian military officers and Indian nationalist Subhash Chandra Bose in Dresden, Germany, in 1943, Hitler himself reportedly said: You are fortunate having been born in a country of glorious cultural traditions and a colossal manpower. I am impressed by the burning passion with which you and your Netaji [Bose] seek to liberate your country from foreign domination. Your Netaji’s status is even greater than mine. While I am the leader of 80 million Germans, he is the leader of 400 million Indians. In all respects he is a greater leader and a greater general than myself. I salute him, and Germany salutes him. It is the duty of all Indians to accept him as their führer and obey him implicitly. I have no doubt that if you do this, his guidance will lead India very soon to freedom.”
    After the defeat of Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany in World War II, Hindu nationalists distanced themselves from the totalitarian regimes of Europe.
    However, their calls for a “Hindu India have only strengthened over the years. In the present climate, the RSS and BJP are both generally opposed to the Muslim presence and express extreme hostility toward India’s principal Muslim rival, Pakistan.
    Moreover, Nazism, and the mysticism of Adolf Hitler’s warped philosophies, remain an obsession with many Indians, almost 80 years after Der Führer came to power in Germany.

    If you admit that Nazism is evil then you must by extension admit that Hinduism is evil.

    The hatred towards Christ and Christianity and other religions is so much indoctrinated in you that you really need help. Only Christ can remove this evil thinking in you.

    You will then start loving human beings irrespective of their religion, nationality, race, gender, orientation etc.

    The only man who was sinless and gave life to the dead, never shed other people blood, did miracles, died and rose again is Jesus. He was man. He was God.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/hindu-nationalists-historical-links-nazism-fascism-214222

  29. Face_The_Truth says:

    Christian church officials’ rape of underage children is a well documented fact throughout the history.

    Christian church instigated inquisition of non-believers of Christianity into mortal torture and capital punishment throughout the centuries — prior to the French Revolution when Christian church was dethroned from political power in Europe — is a well-known dark-spot in human history.

    Without going to Indian subcontinent to write about Christian-Muslim alliance that murdered millions of “Hindus”, I prefer to tell all readers at FaithFreedom.Org website about the fact that high-ranking Nazis — who conspired to torture and murder all Jews in Europe 75 years ago — were devout Catholics in their personal lives!

    LINK

    http://www.liberalslikechrist.org/Catholic/NaziLeadership.html

    ‘HEINRICH HIMMLER (Roman Catholic) was born October 7, 1900, as the son of a secondary school instructor and strict Roman Catholic…This mass murderer was brought up like young Hitler, as a devout Roman Catholic, and was careful to attend mass regularly.

    The son of a bookkeeper, JOSEF GOEBBELS was brought up in a devoutly Catholic home. His parents hoped he would be a priest, but he saw his future as a writer and instead studied philosophy and literature, earning a Ph.D. in drama in 1921.

    REINHARD HEYDRICH (Roman Catholic) was one of Hitler’s most ruthless Nazis and second in importance only to Heinrich Himmler in the Nazi SS organization and the principle planner of the Final Solution.

    HEINRICH MÜLLER (Roman Catholic) was Reinhard Heydrich’s right hand man, and carried on with his boss’s diabolical work after Heydrich was assassinated. After Heinrich Himmler and Reinhardt Heydrich, he was one of the most influential and feared man in the Third Reich, as a “Roman Catholic and regular churchgoer”.

    As the Reichskommissar in the Netherlands throughout the Third Reich, ARTHUR SEYSS-INQUART (Roman Catholic) was the one most responsible for the Nazi atrocities committed there.

    REINHARD GEHLEN (Roman Catholic) was Hitler’s Chief of Intelligence. Gehlen was a devoutly Roman Catholic member of the Knights of Malta, a Vatican military order.

    FRANZ VON PAPEN (Roman Catholic) had headed the powerful Catholic “Center Party” and been a close friend of Pope Pius XII from the time that he had been the Papal Nuncio to Germany.

    KLAUS BARBIE (Roman Catholic), called the “Butcher of Lyon” because of his role as chief of the Nazi Gestapo in Lyon, France during the worst period of the Holocaust, 1942-1944, where he took part personally in torturing French resistance fighters.

    HANS FRANK (Roman Catholic) was the Nazi appointed lord of Poland during the worst of the extermination of millions of Jews…

    JOSEF KRAMER (Roman Catholic) the commandant “butcher of Bergen-Belsen” was born in Munich as an only child and grew up in a middle class family. His parents Theodore and Maria Kramer brought him up a strict Catholic.

    JULIUS STREICHER (Roman Catholic) was the Rush Limbaugh of Nazi Germany, whose gross anti-semitic mass-produced Der Stürmer influenced the German masses almost as much as his good friends Hitler and Goebbels.

    RUDOLF HÖSS (Roman Catholic) was one of history’s greatest mass murderers, the architect and SS Commandant of the largest killing center ever created, the death camp Auschwitz, whose name has come to symbolize humanity’s ultimate descent into evil.

    MARTIN BORMANN (Roman Catholic) became very anti-Christian latter in life, but “Bormann first became acquainted with Hitler at his 1929 wedding to Gerda Buch. Her father was a chairman of the Nazi Party Court, and a powerful figure in Nazi circles, so Hitler served as a witness to the marriage. And a year later Martin and Gerda’s first son was christened Adolf, after his Godfather, ADOLF HITLER.” (McGovern 20-21). This would indicate that BORMANN was either married and had his first son christened in Hitler’s Catholic Church, or in BORMANN’s Protestant church.

    Christian POPE PIUS XII was quite happy to wield his powerful excommunication tool shortly after World War II to dissuade Italian Catholics from even joining the Communist Party, which was very popular in their country at the time. Yet, throughout the 12 year Nazi reign of terror, not one of the multitude of Nazi leaders who were Roman Catholic was ever excommunicated for their crimes against humanity, no matter how monstrous!’

    In India, many “Hindus” today have totally forgotten what Muslims did to all Indian “Hindus” and how “Hindus” were treated after any successful Islamic invasion.

    Today, “Hindu” women marry Muslim men and eat cow-meat as daily staple!

    Many educated Indian “Hindus” today DO NOT even want to know the history of Muslims and Christians torturing and murdering Indian “Hindus” for nearly a millennium for NOT accepting Islam and Christianity.

  30. No Pointing says:

    You said , worship the true God in spirit is blasphemed and worshp idols are not blasphemed.

    Show me where Christianity teaches rape, torture and murder ?

    Idiots cannot stand the truth but only lie and lying.

  31. Face_The_Truth says:

    So, according to Christian believers, anyone who refuses to believe in age-old Christian lies after lies must be speaking devil.

    And, that’s probably how early Christians raped children, tortured and murdered all non-believers of newly invented Christianity.

    It’s no secret that Christianity finds friendliness with Islam all the time until, of course, Muslims start beheading Christians!

    Christianity’s idol — the dead Jew on the Cross — was punished for revolting against the Roman authorities and, thereafter, medieval Christians butchered all non-believers of Christianity similar to what the followers of Islam did — since Islam’s advent — as well as the followers of Islam do to this day.

    Yet, billions of world’s people — both educated and un-educated — consider Christianity and Islam great religions!

    Because, today world’s Christians and Muslims have a lot of money to show for their material successes while totally ignoring the historical truths of Christian and Islamic plunder of non-believers’ everything.

    Since Islam’s advent, only bloody wars were constantly going on throughout the world, which only surpass one Christian war after another Christian war such as WWI or WWII or Korean War or Vietnam War or Iraq War where hundreds of millions of humans killed at the alters of Christianity and Islam.

    America was founded by Christians and, today, America has 20 trillion U.S. dollars of national debt, while not including another 200 trillion U.S. dollars of unfunded liabilities that Christian American govt. has promised to its citizens.

    So, what will be the solution to unsolvable Christian American financial or fiscal problems?

    Christian American govt. will start wars with Russia, the Islamic Republic of Iran, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, and the People’s Republic of China.

    After the bloody wars, however, Christians and Muslims will tell us Christianity and Islam stand for world peace and harmony!

    And, if one does not believe in Christianity and Islam, one must be speaking devil.

  32. No Pointing says:

    Why :

    You said Mary was a adulter, why she can received the Holy Spirit of God.

    You said Christians can worship God in spirit is blasphemed.

    You have spirits of devil, devils are speaking liked you are saying.

  33. why? says:

    No Point at all,

    How do christians who believe that “God” was born to a adulterous woman through adultery as mamzer jeebus worship “God in spirit”. The fact is christianity is the worst blasphemy against God.

  34. Face_The_Truth says:

    We’re told, a replica of a dead, bloody Nazarene Jew on the gibbet is not an idol when Christians worship it.

    We’re told, a stone is not an idol when faithful Muslims kiss it.

    It’s indeed quite unfortunate that the majority of Indian “Hindus” today simply do not have the mindset to burn down all Islamic mosques and Christian churches in India with massive overarching fire similar to the wanton destruction Muslims and Christians did to “Hindu” temples.

  35. No Pointing says:

    Jesus had teached worship God in spirit because God is Spirit. John 4:23.

    Do not listen to Liars, Christians worshipping dead body Jesus on the cross.

    Only Christians can worship God because they have the Holy Spirit of God.

    All muslims , Jews , Hindus , Buddhists cannot worship God. They are worshipping idols.

  36. Ron says:

    In many battles arson is used by all combatants irrespective of religion

    An excerpt from the book “State of War in South Asia” (page 38, 39) shows

    Hindus using scorched earth policy

    We have the Ahom kings of Assam using scorched earth policy when attacked by Mughals.
    Also Rana Pratap used it when he was losing to the Mughals

    https://books.google.ca/books?id=-TsMl0vSc0gC&pg=PA245&dq=rana+pratap+scorched+earth+policy&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjclIXGqPfPAhVG4yYKHYChAA8Q6AEIHjAA#v=onepage&q=rana%20pratap%20scorched%20earth%20policy&f=false

    https://books.google.ca/books?id=FIIQhuAOGaIC&pg=PA38&lpg=PA38&dq=rana+pratap+scorched+earth+policy&source=bl&ots=-2FMDM-2tV&sig=ybdqf6eVEbG5hNQ_BQcw395uKuU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiJobKqp_fPAhVJKyYKHWtxCb8Q6AEIHzAB#v=onepage&q=rana%20pratap%20scorched%20earth%20policy&f=false

  37. Face_The_Truth says:

    “Sun Tzu wrote a long treatise on the subject of war “Art of war” which is a must read in military colleges. In the war between the non-vegetarians vs the vegetarians, it is generally seen that the non-vegetarian is the aggressor and generally wins.”

    Whether one is vegetarian or not, what Sun Tzu did NOT mention about in his treatise was Muslim invaders destroyed both life and habitat of all non-believers such as Indian “Hindus”.

    For further clarification, foreign Muslim military invaders brought with them massive numbers of Muslim arsonists who started burning down all “Hindu” dwellings including adjacent trees and woods while Muslim invaders were fighting “Hindu” warriors during any battle.

    A total disregard for the lives of non-believers enabled foreign Muslim invaders to destroy everything with fire (i.e., arson) and to lay waste of all non-believers’ habitats, cities, towns and villages.

    Quite contrarily, Indian “Hindus” were taught throughout the ages to regard for all Muslim non-combatants!

    For a very recent example, during September 11, 2001, Islamic terrorist strikes in New York City, foreign Muslims burned down American skyscrapers with wanton destruction of all non-believing human lives along with them.

    Similarly, Genghis Haan and Hulegu Haan used massive numbers of arsonists to burn down Muslim cities, Muslim towns, and Muslim villages during every military invasion in the 13th century A.D.

    When you burn down the habitats of your enemies with massive fire (i.e., arson), you have won more than half of the battle!

    If Indian “Hindus” had similar mindset of arsoning all properties of both Muslim and Christian non-combatants, Indian “Hindus” could have won every battle.

    Only if Indian “Hindus” had similar mindset of arsoning all properties of both Muslim and Christian non-combatants, all Muslims and Christians currently living in India could be sent to Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Afghanistan.

  38. Truth Seeker says:

    @Ron
    When a Hindu warrior Shivaji Butchered Cow-killer in Islamic State – Might of Hindu Sword

    Time : Sometime in 1640s
    Place : Islamic State of Bijapur, India. (Consider ISIS territory of today)
    Situation:
    An ordinary day in city.
    Market is congested.
    Butchers chatting with each other slaughtering goats, sheep and cows.
    Skullcaps, beards and Hijabs everywhere.
    Hindus passing by with heads hung down in fear.
    Fear of being Hindu in Sharia run state.
    Fear of Jaziya.
    Fear of getting beaten up.
    Fear of abduction.
    Fear of rape.
    Fear of getting beheaded.
    Fear of desecrated temples.
    Cows being cut in front of a temple.
    To make Hindus feel insulted and destroyed.
    To prove superiority of the best religion.
    A butcher is dragging a cow to slaughter point.
    Cow is helpless.
    Tears in her eyes.
    Her calf falls on ground seeing mother who will never come back.
    Butcher’s eyes shining with pride of insulting filthy idol worshippers.
    Cow surrenders.
    Cow falls on ground. One last cry.
    Loud, clear, motherly.
    Could melt even heart of stones.
    But hearts filled with fear and hatred never melt.
    No one would listen. Except one young man.
    He comes on a horse.
    Face of innocence. Biceps and Chests of a mighty.
    Stops at butcher’s place.
    His eyes as red as Tilak on forehead.
    And wet.
    What happened next
    “Who dragged the cow?” – the lion roars.
    “Who are you?” – asks the butcher.
    “Free the cow right now.”
    “Who are you?” – shouts the butcher again.
    “You have one last chance.”
    “Who the hell are you to ask me? What can you do, filthy Kafir? I will kill your mother and eat it.” – butcher yells at youth.

    10 butchers from shops around surround the man. Daggers in their hands.
    “Am asking for last time.”- man warns.
    “Who are you, Kafir!”. The butcher picks his dagger to stab cow in neck. Starts yelling- Allahu Akbar – in Halal Islamic way, ignoring man’s warning.
    And then
    And then, there is flesh and blood on ground all of a sudden.
    No, it is not of cow.
    The butcher has been butchered.
    The warrior’s sword was unsheathed for a moment.
    Cow is free as the hands holding her were no more joined from arms.
    It was quick.
    Quicker than the butcher’s halal.
    Skullcap is displaced from butcher’s head. Now lying next to cut-hand on ground.
    Warrior’s Tilak on forehead is covered with bloodspill.
    Now butcher is moaning instead of cow.
    The mob is stunned.
    10 butchers surrounding the warrior turn into statues.
    The warrior speaks who he is: “I am Gorakhshak.”
    “No cow will be butchered here from now.”: he roars.
    “But, we butcher cows everyday. This is Islamic State. How the hell can we not kill the cow?” – Butchers murmur gently as they slowly retreat. And shout as they run away when they feel they are at safe distance from the Hindu sword. “Astagfirullah!”
    “Time has changed.”
    The hero gets on to horse sheathing the blood soaked sword.
    “The Sultan will get angry with you” – someone in the mob warns.
    “Which Sultan?” – warrior disappears.
    20 years later
    The Hindu King walks the same road on horse with hundreds of soldiers following.

    Same sword in hand.
    Sword that freed helpless cow from the butcher 20 years ago.
    But time has changed.
    It was not Allahu Akbar chants anymore.
    It was “Har Har Mahadev” this time.
    It was no more Shiva this time. It was Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj this time.
    Our pride. Our hero. Our inspiration.
    No matter who gets angry.
    Protect cow.
    Protect innocents.
    Protect humanity!

  39. why? says:

    Height of stupidity by Ron, A.H. etc.:

    Stupid Claim1: Vegetarianism is responsible for defeat of Hindus by Muslims

    Who on Earth told this fellow that Hindu warriors were vegetarians? Almost all warriors in Hindu society were all non-vegetarians, except if they any of them were from brAhmin community. Thre may be umpteen other reasons for their defeat, but definitely not vegetarianism. Indeed Vijayanagar Kingdom, one of the most orthodox Hindu rulers guided by great Hindy saints were one of the most successful Hindu Kingdoms against multiple attacks of multiple islamic Kingdoms.

    Stupid Claim 2: Hinduism is responsible for poverty in India.

    Anybody who knows Hindu history will not make this idiotic claim as the stupid christian missionaries make. Hindu Vijayanagar kingdom again was one of the most richest kingdoms during its time.

    http://www.preservearticles.com/2012041030164/what-was-the-economic-conditionof-vijayanagar-empire.html

    What was the Economic Conditionof Vijayanagar Empire?

    The Empire of Vijayanagar was very rich. The foreign travellers who visited the Vijayanagar Empire have paid tributes to its wealth and splendour. According to Nicolo Conti, “The circumference of the city (Vijayanagar) is 60 miles; its walls are carried up to the mountains and enclose the valley at their foot, so that its extent is thereby increased. In the city there are estimated to be 99,000 men fit to bear arms.

    The king is more powerful than all the other kings of India.” According to Abdur Razzaq, “The country is so well populated that it is impossible in a reasonable space to convey an idea of it. In the king’s treasury there are chambers with excavations for them, filled

    with molten gold forming one mass. All the inhabitants of the country, whether high or low, even down to the artificers of the Bazar, wore jewels and gift ornaments in their ears and around their necks, arms, wrists and fingers.”

    According to Paes, the king of Vijayanagar had a lot of money. The residents of the city of Vijayanagar carried on trade in precious stones. Things were in plenty and also cheap. Barbosa refers to Vijayanagar as “of great extant, highly populous and the seat of an active commerce in country diamonds, rubies from Pegu, silks of China and Alexandria, and cinnabar, camphor, musk, pepper and sandal from Malabar.”

    The prosperity of the Vijayanagar Empire was due to the growth of agriculture, industries, trade and commerce. The state followed a wise irrigation policy. Industries were also encouraged by the state. Commerce was inland, coastal and overseas. Calicut was the most important port on the Malabar Coast.

    If Abdur Razzaq is to be believed, there were as many as 300 sea-ports in the Vijayanagar Empire. There were commercial relations with the islands in the Indian Ocean, the Malaya Archipelago, Burma, China, Arabia, Persia, South Africa, Abyssinia and Portugal.

    The exports from the Vijayanagar Empire were cloth, rice, iron, salt, petrel, sugar and spices. The imports were horses, elephants, pearls, copper, coral, mercury, China silk and velvet. Edoardo Barbosa tells us that South India got its ships built in the Maldive Islands. The art of ship building was well-known.

    The coins of the empire were those of gold, copper and silver. There were emblems of different gods and animals on them. We may conclude by saying that the Vijayanagar Empire “served a high historical purpose by acting as a champion religion and culture against the aggressions of the Muslims in Southern India.”

  40. Ron says:

    Sun Tzu wrote a long treatise on the subject of war “Art of war” which is a must read in military colleges.
    In the war between the non-vegetarians vs the vegetarians, it is generally seen that the non-vegetarian is the aggressor and generally wins.

    Non-vegetarians always do better than vegetarians even in sports where strength, stamina and speed is tested like athletics, sports, boxing, wrestling, weightlifting etc. Look at the history of the Olympic winners where do the vegetarian countries stand. If at all there are medal winners from the vegetarian countries, then they you can be sure that those winners are non-vegetarians. The exceptions to this are a very miniscule few.

    The Mongols who were pagans but were non-vegetarians (ate any meat) and were very successful in war and defeated or subjugated nations and tribes which were vegetarian very easily. They also defeated other non-vegetarians nations. They use two horses in war. They killed and ate their own and enemy horses which got injured and were generally never short of food as they broke sieges on enemy fortifications.

    The Muslims were generally successful against the Hindus in hand-to-hand combat because the Muslims were non-vegetarians (ate any meat except pork) and the Hindus who were vegetarians were easy game.
    Certain Hindu castes who were occasional meat eaters like the Rajputs , Sikhs, Marathas and Gorkhas did fight well, gave good resistance and in some battles defeated the Muslims.

    According to Wikipedia the Battle of Haldighati was a victory for the Mughals.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maharana_Pratap

    The Battle of Haldighati was fought on 18 June 1576 for around four hours.[8] It was primarily fought in the traditional manner between cavalry and elephants since the Mughals found it difficult to transport artillery over the rough terrain. In a traditional fight, the Rajputs were at an advantage; their attack led to a crumbling of the Mughal left- and right-wings and put pressure on the centre until reserves of the Mughal army arrived, and resulted in a Rajput retreat. Later, the Mughal army attacked the Rajputs hiding in hills. The pressure of Mughal army was so much that the Rana had to retreat from the battlefield. The battle resulted in Mughal victory.[9]

  41. Face_The_Truth says:

    [Richard_the_Christian says:
    Please do not confuse the British who invaded India with Christians, they are all actually descendants of the Normans, who were in fact pagans who had not fully converted to Christianity and never really left their pagan plundering roots.]

    The above is similar to saying that the followers of the Islamic State of Iraq, Syria, and Libya are NOT Muslims.

    [Richard_the_Christian says:
    Christianity doesn’t have revelations that suggest plundering, murdering, etc.]

    World’s billions of Christians worship an idol — a dead, bloody Jew on the Cross — as their savior on the Day of Judgment, no matter how many more centuries from now that supposed Day of Judgment will actually arrive!

    However, our known history of past 2000 years teaches us that, the dead Nazarene Jew on the Cross was a bloody rebel against the mighty Roman Empire (27 B.C. – 395 A.D.), who revolted against the mighty Roman legions and, for doing so, ended up being punished with death penalty by crucifixion along with two common local thieves.

    Nothing more sanctimonious here.

    [Richard_the_Christian says:
    Not all Christians who arrived in India have behaved like this either.

    The earliest Christians to arrive in India were there by the end of the 1st century. Traditionally St. Thomas is believed to have arrived in India as early as 52 A.D. They have lived peacefully there ever since – following the words of St Paul “so long as it lies with you, live at peace with all men.]

    In another post on a different thread of conversations I wrote that, the story of Catholic Saint Thomas’s arrival in Indian subcontinent was a deliberate lie propagated by Christians in order to mislead downtrodden Indian “Hindu” people.

    After all, if there’s no LIE, there’s no Christianity.

    Christianity’s basic premises are based on one lie after another in order to convert gullible non-believers into Christianity by hook or by crook.

    LINK

    https://controversialhistory.blogspot.com/2007/10/myth-of-saint-thomas-india-visit.html

    ‘MYTH OF SAINT THOMAS INDIA VISIT

    The chief items of information contained in C.A. Simon’s writings are as follows:

    St. Thomas, one of the twelve apostles of Jesus Christ (a disputed fact), came to India in A.D. 52 with Habban, a foreign trader.

    St. Thomas landed at Maliankara (Cranganore) in Kerala, preached the Gospel, wrought miracles, and got many converts.

    Then St. Thomas came to Mailepuram (Mylapore), then went to China, after some time returned to Maliankara, and from there came again to Madras where St. Thomas spent the rest of his life teaching, preaching and drawing a large number of the oppressed and the suppressed into his fold.

    St. Thomas performed miracles which made the local King Mahadeva offer him a place near the seashore where the old church of Mylapore now stands.

    St. Thomas’s conversion activities incensed the orthodox “Hindus” and enemies from their rank vowed to finish him.

    St. Thomas had therefore to hide himself in a cave at the Little Mount near the present St. Thomas Mount (about five kilometers. away from Mylapore).

    Finally, St. Thomas was murdered there, i.e., at St. Thomas Mount, by those fanatical “Hindu” enemies!

    St. Thomas’s body was brought to Mylapore and buried in A.D. 73 at a spot which was forgotten for many centuries.

    But the greatest miracle was to occur in 1523 A.D., nearly fifteen hundred years after the Catholic saint was supposed to have died.

    That was the rediscovery of the tomb and remains of the murdered saint by the Christian priest in charge of the Mylapore church for building a new church — pieces of bones, a skull, a vessel containing mud supposedly from the place where the saint’s blood was shed, and a spearhead of the shape of an olive leaf fixed on a wooden shaft.’

    The rests can be read by all readers of FaithFreedom.Org website by clicking on the above LINK in order to find out the non-stop LIES of Christians who have been in the business of converting gullible, self-hating, down-trodden, and poverty-stricken “Hindus” of Indian subcontinent.

  42. A.H. says:

    “Well, I really don’t think that Hinduism is the root of all social and economic problems, and Islamic invasion was certainly not a “blessing” to Indians”.

    It applies to Islam too, it causes social and economic problems in islamic countries.

    Adherents of these religions penetrate the West by the millions importing their messy cultures.

  43. D Bhattacharya says:

    Well, I really don’t think that Hinduism is the root of all social and economic problems, and Islamic invasion was certainly not a “blessing” to Indians. Had that been the case, Pakistan would have become a wealthier nation by now, and people in that nation, would have started to think about constructing their crippled economy, other than concocting vicious recipies to destabilise one of the neighbouring countries, by breeding terrorism in their hinterland.

  44. Truth Seeker says:

    When Maharana Butchered 2 Akbar Commanders in One Blow

    Date : 18 Jun, 1576
    Place : Haldighati, Udaipur (Rajasthan)
    Battle : Mughals vs Rajputs.
    Situation :
    Akbar’s massive army attacks Maharana Pratap.
    Rajput army heavily outnumbered by Mughals led by Man Singh.
    Maharana’s eyes searching for the traitor who ditched motherland to join the invaders.
    What happened next:
    Maharana spots the traitor a distance away. On an elephant. Protected by hundreds of Mughal warriors.
    Innumerable Jihadis carrying green Islamic flags shouting Allahu Akbar stand between lion and his prey.
    Allahu Akbar becomes louder. Maharana must clear the path to reach Man Singh.
    Maharana takes out the other sword.
    Armor is on chest.
    Shield is put on the back.
    Both hands now have swords.
    Akbar’s Jihadis watch, for the first time, the might of Hindu sword.
    And then :
    Jihadi heads start rolling.
    One versus hundreds. Hindu warrior versus Jihadi invaders.
    In two minutes, hundreds of Jihadi flags, heads, hands and legs scatter around and get trampled under legs of Chetak.
    Maharana cuts every head that comes between him and Man Singh.
    Then comes Behlol Khan, the mighty commander of Mughals, along with his partner on a horse.
    This man had killed Maharana’s men earlier. Today, he is fleeing the battlefield seeing wrath of Maharana’s sword.
    Pratap challenges both together.
    They lift swords to save themselves from Maharana’s rage.
    But alas! They are late. 3 heads are rolling on the ground in next split-second.
    The mighty Behlol Khan, his swordsman partner and horse’s head are separated from their bodies with a single swing of Maharana’s sword.
    Everyone is stunned. Suddenly, a pin-drop silence!
    How can someone hit with such power?
    Har Har Mahadev – Maharana roars.

    It started with Allahu Akbar. It ends with Har Har Mahadev.
    Mughals are terrified.
    The path to traitor becomes clear all of a sudden.
    Man Singh, the next target, is right ahead…
    Aftermath :
    For next twenty years, Mughal soldiers debated that Maharana was not a human but a ghost with Satanic powers.
    Akbar’s commanders refused to accept duty in Chittor region.
    One commander chose to become a fakir.
    Akbar and hundreds would wake up from nightmares for rest of their lives.
    The PTSD would not go and Akbar wetted his bed every single night henceforth despite increased usage of narcotics.
    The mighty sword dug such a permanent hole in Akbar’s empire that few generations later, Mughal sultans were surviving on Maratha pension.
    Today, many Mughal crown-princes are seen begging on Etawah railway junction.
    Read this story to your kids. They will never become slaves of anyone. And will know how to destroy terrorism.
    ________________________________________

  45. A.H. says:

    “Hinduism” is the root of all existing economic and social problems of India”.

    You don`t have to be a wealthy college-professor in America and Europe to come to that conclusion, but to proof that assertion is another thing.

  46. Truth Seeker says:

    When Shivaji Butchered Cow-killer in Islamic State – Might of Hindu Sword

    Time : Sometime in 1640s
    Place : Islamic State of Bijapur, India. (Consider ISIS territory of today)
    Situation:
    An ordinary day in city.
    Market is congested.
    Butchers chatting with each other slaughtering goats, sheep and cows.
    Skullcaps, beards and Hijabs everywhere.
    Hindus passing by with heads hung down in fear.
    Fear of being Hindu in Sharia run state.
    Fear of Jaziya.
    Fear of getting beaten up.
    Fear of abduction.
    Fear of rape.
    Fear of getting beheaded.
    Fear of desecrated temples.
    Cows being cut in front of a temple.
    To make Hindus feel insulted and destroyed.
    To prove superiority of the best religion.
    A butcher is dragging a cow to slaughter point.
    Cow is helpless.
    Tears in her eyes.
    Her calf falls on ground seeing mother who will never come back.
    Butcher’s eyes shining with pride of insulting filthy idol worshippers.
    Cow surrenders.
    Cow falls on ground. One last cry.
    Loud, clear, motherly.
    Could melt even heart of stones.
    But hearts filled with fear and hatred never melt.
    No one would listen. Except one young man.
    He comes on a horse.
    Face of innocence. Biceps and Chests of a mighty.
    Stops at butcher’s place.
    His eyes as red as Tilak on forehead.
    And wet.
    What happened next
    “Who dragged the cow?” – the lion roars.
    “Who are you?” – asks the butcher.
    “Free the cow right now.”
    “Who are you?” – shouts the butcher again.
    “You have one last chance.”
    “Who the hell are you to ask me? What can you do, filthy Kafir? I will kill your mother and eat it.” – butcher yells at youth.

    10 butchers from shops around surround the man. Daggers in their hands.
    “Am asking for last time.”- man warns.
    “Who are you, Kafir!”. The butcher picks his dagger to stab cow in neck. Starts yelling- Allahu Akbar – in Halal Islamic way, ignoring man’s warning.
    And then
    And then, there is flesh and blood on ground all of a sudden.
    No, it is not of cow.
    The butcher has been butchered.
    The warrior’s sword was unsheathed for a moment.
    Cow is free as the hands holding her were no more joined from arms.
    It was quick.
    Quicker than the butcher’s halal.
    Skullcap is displaced from butcher’s head. Now lying next to cut-hand on ground.
    Warrior’s Tilak on forehead is covered with bloodspill.
    Now butcher is moaning instead of cow.
    The mob is stunned.
    10 butchers surrounding the warrior turn into statues.
    The warrior speaks who he is: “I am Gorakhshak.”
    “No cow will be butchered here from now.”: he roars.
    “But, we butcher cows everyday. This is Islamic State. How the hell can we not kill the cow?” – Butchers murmur gently as they slowly retreat. And shout as they run away when they feel they are at safe distance from the Hindu sword. “Astagfirullah!”
    “Time has changed.”
    The hero gets on to horse sheathing the blood soaked sword.
    “The Sultan will get angry with you” – someone in the mob warns.
    “Which Sultan?” – warrior disappears.
    20 years later
    The Hindu King walks the same road on horse with hundreds of soldiers following.

    Same sword in hand.
    Sword that freed helpless cow from the butcher 20 years ago.
    But time has changed.
    It was not Allahu Akbar chants anymore.
    It was “Har Har Mahadev” this time.
    It was no more Shiva this time. It was Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj this time.
    Our pride. Our hero. Our inspiration.
    No matter who gets angry.
    Protect cow.
    Protect innocents.
    Protect humanity!

  47. Richard says:

    Chrsitianity doesn’t have revelations that suggest plundering, murdering etc.

    Not all Christians who arrived in India have behaved like this either.

    The earliest Christians to arrive in India were there by the end of the 1st century. Traditionally St Thomas is believed to have arrived in India as early as 52AD. They have lived peacefully there ever since – folowing the words of St Paul “so long as it lies with you, live at peace with all men.

    Please do not confuse the British who invaded India with Christians, they are all actually descendants of the Normans, who were in fact pagans who had not fully converted to Christianity and never really left their pagan plundering roots.

  48. Face_The_Truth says:

    Prof. Kanchan Chandra of New York University teaches Americans that “Hinduism” is the root of all existing economic and social problems of India.

    So, only if Indian “Hindus” have given up their forefathers’ faith(s) — which goes (go) back 10,000 years of human civilization — highly-paid academics like Professor Kanchan Chandra (Ph.D. 2000, Harvard Univ.) will be satisfied.

    Wealthy college-professors in America and Europe do not care what the actual history of Indian subcontinent was (is) as long as they continue to make more and more money by writing false historical angles in the guise of higher academic excellence to justify barbarian Muslim and Christian invaders’ over 1000 years of murder, plunder and rape of native “Hindu” people (i.e., Pagans) in Indian subcontinent.

    Professor Amartya Sen of Harvard University believes that Muslim and Christian invasions of Indian subcontinent were blessings for native “Hindu” people (i.e., Pagans).

    After all, Muslims and Christians were (are) followers of “truest religions” revealed by Jehovah or Allah or God himself whereas native “Hindu” people (i.e., Pagans) were (are) not fortunate to receive such revelation(s) to murder, plunder and rape non-believers!

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