Let The West Know Islam
Tariq Shah
I would like to bring to light a burning issue of Islamic extremism in Canada or in the west in general .I want every westerner to know about the Islam and its teachings.
Islam is the religion that teaches hatred and violence and intolerance, Since September 11, 2001, there have been over 14,205 terrorist attacks, resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians and a lot more injuries, throughout the world. The perpetrators of these attacks were not monsters; they were Muslims. Islamic terrorism is a new phenomenon; Islam owes its success to terrorism. The founder of Islam boasted, “I have been made victorious with terror”. Muslim jihadis are following the footsteps of their prophet who bragged, “I have been made victorious with terror”
Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand.” Abu Huraira added: Allah’s Apostle has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures (i.e. the Prophet did not benefit by them).
I being an Ex-mulsim ( now member of united church of Canada ) From my own personal observation I have seen and it is a proven fact Muslims are intolerant, supremacist, bullies, and violent. They are highly inflammable and can explode if they are not treated preferentially and with respect.
Islam is not a religion of peace. The proof is in the Quran, Islamic terrorism is inspired by Islamic teachings.
The Quran contains 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers with commands to chop off heads and fingers, and kill the infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called ‘hypocrites’ and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter. These verses are mostly open-ended, Here I quote a couple of them;
“O Prophet! Make war against the unbelievers [all non-Muslims] and the hypocrites and be merciless against them. Their home is hell, an evil refuge indeed.” (Koran, 9:73)
“When you meet the unbelievers in jihad [holy war], chop off their heads. And when you have brought them low, bind your prisoners rigorously. Then set them free or take ransom from them until the war is ended.” (Koran, 47:4)
“The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be to be killed or crucified, or to have their hands and feet chopped off on opposite sides, or to be expelled out of the land. Such will be their humiliation in the world, and in the next world they will face an awful horror.” (Koran, 5:33-34)
“When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet sin. So that Allah’s word is proven true against them, then we destroy them utterly.” (Koran, 17:16-17)
“In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones [all non-Muslims] one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell.. They will have been the ones to have lost.” (Koran, 8:37)
“How many were the populations we utterly destroyed because of their sins, setting up in their place other peoples.” (Koran, 21:11)
So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them.” Sura (9:5) –
Sura (47:4) – “So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners,”
“Remember Allah inspired the angels: I am with you. Give firmness to the believers. I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their fingertips off of them.” (Koran, 8:12)
Such teachings are deeply embedded in mind of a typical Muslim , when they come to west in search of greener pastures in different ways: By massive immigration ( either by high skilled migrant programs or education background to countries , like Canada, Australia, NZ ,UK) ,family class, asylum seekers , they bring this morbid mentality with themselves and once they manage to stand on feet they start undermining the western democracy. To me the most imminent threat are these highly educated and qualified professional personnel, who are more organized, knowledgeable than an illiterate Muslim extremist .
In Canada alone, in recent years there have been numerous cases of Muslim terrorist activities, most of the terrorists have either middle eastern or Pakistani background.
Apart from terrorist activities they have been cases of “honor killings” where a father/brother kills his own daughter/sister merely believing that she brought dishonor upon the family. Ironically the whole Islam revolves around honor and shame , In Islamic world is a cultural practice as well .In Countries like Pakistan , it is the highest , ,in the first quarter of 2008, officially 90 cases were reported, in actual it will be more than that. Interestingly the local politicians/government defend such heinous crimes and justify it under the cover of Islam.
Based on these factual accounts I only wish all the westerners to open their eyes and pay serious attention to the growing number of Muslim extremists and the teachings of Islam, the fountain-head of terrorism in today’s world and the greatest threat to the ideals of a free humanity.

Thank you Tariq Shah for your very insightful article.
Thank you ' antihuman' for Churchill's writing in his book "The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pp. 248-50" that you posted. What a great man he was even at the young age 24, how fortunate the world was to have such a great leader, and what a shame that Obama sent back to England a statue of Churchill's bust which had adorned the White House for years.
(Mind you from your post I don't believe that you are really 'antihuman' !!!)
And thanks to you, Truthseeker, for the eye opening comparisons you made in your post. Makes one to see beyond the surface. You know, in the history of creation God first created spiritual beings called angels, even before he created the physical universe ( See Job, Chapter 38:7 ). Who knows how many millions or billions or even more years before man came on the scene. Of the 3 archangels Lucifer ( later Satan ) was the greatest. As you mentioned, he wanted to be even greater than God. He rebelled and was expelled from his lofty position. What I like to point out is that this SATAN has been around for zillions of years, knows all the tricks, all the deceptive ways, and against such an experience man has no defense except for the WORD of GOD. Before Jesus started his ministry he went in the wilderness and fasted for 40 days. On 3 occasions Satan tried to tempt him, but each time Jesus rebuked him by saying " It is written…." and quoted Scriptures and Satan turned away.
Satan is cunning but can not stand to the mighty power of God. God still is on the thrown.
Amen.
I wonder what people would say about Christianity being a "religion of peace" if they were basing their understanding on what is written in the Bible… and how many Christians have – both in our history and in current times – used those texts to justify killing the other?
Both Islam and Christianity have texts in their sacred books that call for the death of those who are not us.
Both Islam and Christianity have had leaders who have used those texts to get what they want.
Both Islam and Christianity have had (and have) extremists who use those texts to create horror for others.
And, before people start suggesting that I'm a wicked unbeliever, I'm an active member of the same Christian denomination as Tariq (the original poster) – The United Church of Canada.
Christ's peace – r
Parviz, actually I had so many stupid one on ones with followers of islam that i have begun to think that since they claim to be for humanity then I, who am anti-Islam, must be really antihuman.. these fellows have made me go nuts..islam is the height of stupidity…yes, islam is stupid…and its followers are brainwashed zombies..just look at anjem choudhury talking in that video..so until islam is completely wiped out from the face of this earth, I will be anti-human..we both can't be true and humane…so if they are humane then I am anti-human..that's the idea…good for me that you think otherwise…
Ribbit
What is the United Church of Canada? In the US and Canada, there are more than 2,000 denominations, and they all claim to be the True Church. If you are a Follower of Christ, show me in the New Testament where Jesus Christ taught about calling for the deaths of others who are (not of us) as you say. Show me where in the New Testament that Jesus Christ taught that his followers use sacred texts to create "horrors" for others, and get what they want (as you say). Nowhere will you find such teachings – if you can, then show me.
When you refer to the Bible – you need to distinguish that the Old Testament is the Jewish Bible and was written for the Jews. The New Testament was written by Jesus Christ's Apostles (the Church) and was written for Christians. Nevertheless, both the Old and New Testaments complete the Bible as a whole.
In the New Testament, Jesus Christ clearly taught this:
If my (Jesus Christ's) servants were of this world, they would fight, but because they are NOT of this world, they do not fight.
So, your comment about Christians using sacred texts to justify killing the other is plain Wrong. That is not Jesus Christ's teachings – and those who follow Christ are Real Christians.
Also, throughout its history, the Roman Catholic Church have been notorious for killing others, and even killing True Followers of Jesus Christ (Real Christians). When you refer to Christians using sacred texts to justify killing the other, are you referring to the Roman Catholic Church, or Christians as a whole?
Dear Ribbit,
When you write about 'Christianity' and what is written in the Bible, I assume that you are talking in a generic form. Because if you look specifically, you find your statement not to be true. Not everyone who says I am Christian or a church member is actually a follower of Christ, they just give him a bad name.
Well, lets see what is in the heart of Jesus teaching? Lets look at, for example, The Sermon On The Mount, on which Christ following should be based on. You tell me where do you find violence, hatred, and all the things the so called " Christians " have done wrong, if they had followed them . Now, if they have gone against the teaching of Christ may be they should not be called Christians, but may be by some other name. May be the cult of ' whatever is hip ' !
Matthew 5
The Beatitudes
1Now when he saw the crowds, he went up on a mountainside and sat down. His disciples came to him, 2and he began to teach them saying:
3"Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
5Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
6Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
7Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
8Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
9Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called sons of God.
10Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
Salt and Light
13"You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men.
14"You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. 15Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. 16In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.
The Fulfillment of the Law
17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
Murder
21"You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not murder,[a] and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.' 22But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother[b]will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca,[c]' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.
23"Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother; then come and offer your gift.
25"Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still with him on the way, or he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. 26I tell you the truth, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.[d]
Adultery
27"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.'[e] 28But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.
Divorce
31"It has been said, 'Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.'[f] 32But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.
Oaths
33"Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not break your oath, but keep the oaths you have made to the Lord.' 34But I tell you, Do not swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God's throne; 35or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. 36And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. 37Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.
An Eye for an Eye
38"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.'[g] 39But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. 41If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. 42Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
Love for Enemies
43"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor[h] and hate your enemy.'44But I tell you: Love your enemies[i] and pray for those who persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that?47And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.======
Mr. Ribbit, where do you find a hint of aggression in Jesus' teachings ? where do find hate ? Jesus was pure LOVE and his deeds and actions were purely HOLY, Righteous, and had the exact qualities and attributes of God.
Jesus was clearly anti-religious. He hated those who pretended to be righteous. Jesus hated hypocrisy ( A Greek word meaning some one who hides behind a mask ). Jesus would condemn anyone, including the leaders of the Church or State who would harm the least of God's human creatures. When at the time of his arrest one of his followers took a sword and cut off an arresting officer's ear Jesus rebuked him and healed the soldiers ear. He told his disciple to put away your sword. Who ever uses the sword also perishes with the sword.
Mr. Ribbit, Jesus showed pure love. At his crucifixion he looked at them who nailed him to the cross and while in excruciating agony, just before his death, he said " Father forgive them for they know not what they do ".
As for his treatment of the religious leaders of the time, and the religious leaders of our own times, this is what he told them, and would say today:
Matthew 23:13-23 (New International Version)
13"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.[a]
15"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are.
16"Woe to you, blind guides! You say, 'If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.' 17You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred?18You also say, 'If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gift on it, he is bound by his oath.' 19You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20Therefore, he who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21And he who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. 22And he who swears by heaven swears by God's throne and by the one who sits on it.
23"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.
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In conclusion the Bible's teaching is much different to what your friend, Mr. Shah has written in the main article and correctly has quoted the Qur'an on the matters of war. Your statement that in Christianity similar things to Islam has been done is incorrect. Whereas Muslims correctly follow the teaching of their prophet, the so called Christians do not follow the teaching of Jesus.
Jesus said if you go in a house to proclaim me and they do not receive you shake the dust of your sandals, bless the home, go on your way. Islam says the world must accept Islam or else….
And that's what Ahmadinejad wrote in his 18 page letter to George Bush, and his 10 page letter to chancellor Angela Merkle, inviting them to become Muslims or …….
May The Lord's blessings be with you.
Parviz
Thank you for your comments – I agree with what you say.
God Bless you.
Parviz
Your comments are True – I have also commented to "Ribbit" about his/her comments being plain Wrong based upon Jesus Christ's teachings and what a real Christian is.
Truthseeker
Yes , I have read all your comments on this page and else where on FFI, and I am thankful for your insightful writings. May the Lord's blessing be with you not only as you shine the light of truth ( as your pen name implies ! ) on the darkness of Islam's teachings , but as you show an alternative path, that of Love to the readers . You seem to be a person with knowledge of Scripture, I therefore bring to your attention Apostle Paul's letter to the Corinthians, in 1 Corinthian 13, the chapter on Love, where he admonishes the Christians of Corinth to put Love above all things. In the last verse, as you well know, he says, "And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love."
May the Love of God shine through us even towards Muslims we know, as to bring about in them " A new man ". Jesus told Nicodemous that in order for him to enter the Kingdom Of God he had to be born again. Nicodemous did not grasp Jesus' meaning even when it was explained to him that ' He had to become a new creation, with a new set of thoughts, mind, soul, heart ' He had to change . that's what we need to pray for to happen to our Muslim relatives and friends.
I refuse to call them names with hatred, for the Bible says, " God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son that whoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life " . If that's God's attitude who am I to say differently. But we absolutely must declare evil evil, and expose it for what it is .
Thanks for your kind words.
TruthSeeker
I concluded that Allah is Lord of Hell Fire because of the last sentence of the verse.Notice that 'He' is in capital even though it's the 2nd word of the sentence.
Secondly,according to this ahadith,the Lord of hell created (bitter cold)snow,the icebergs,frost, frozen lakes,etc.
BTW
I do read the Qur'an but I advise you to read the Hadith also,to see how Muhammad received his verses.
Here's how he received sura 5 verse 33:
Sahih Abu Dawd (book 38,no.4357)
When the Apostle of Allah (pbuh) cut off (the hands & feet of) those who had stolen his camels & he had their eyes put out by fire (heated nails),Allah reprimanded him on that action and Allah,the Exalted,revealed:
"The punishment for those who wage war against Allah & His Apostle and strive with might & main for mischief through the land is execution or crucifixion."
A quote from the article: "They [muslims] are highly inflammable and can explode…"
Oh, I wish!
Okay, to be serious…
Antihuman: my thanks also for the Churchill quote, it is most enlightening.
You are also utterly right to separate the individual moslem from Islam in general. To be fair, I think most people here aer aware enough to "hate the sin, not the sinner" to quote a Christian aphorism, but it is something that "The West" in general needs t okeep to the for-front of its collective mind.
Ribbit: several others have already commented on your post #28014, which is a fairly typical "moral relativist" position. It also has the advantage of a surface plausibility.
However, there are a couple of points to be made.
The first (which has been well made above) is that te NT does not contain any verses that (unless you are really perverse in your interpretation) "call for the death of those who are not us".
Second (and this has not been pointed out previously) the verses that do speak in this way in the OT have an inbuilt context, which shows that they refer to specific peoples/cities/etc at a specific time. Whereas the Koranic verses have no such context supplied. You have to go to external sources (Hadith, Sirah) to try to find a context – and these texts are "disputed" in that muslims (of different traditions, fiqh schools, etc) argue over which are authorative or not.
Thus whilst both Bible OT and Koran contain verses "that call for the death of those who are not us" which gives your comment its surface plausibility, a deeper study (well, a reading of the OT actually) shows none of the 'God's word for all time' aspect of the Koranic verses.
Thus, when the Bible and the Koran are subjected to a fair reading, your comparison fails to stand up.
gREAT POST. ALLAH IS THE DEVIL SURA 3:54.
iSLAM HAS NEVER HAD PIECE. MUSLIMS KILLED EACH OTHER IF NOT THE RIGHT MUSLIM. SUNNIS KILL SHIA AND ALL HATE BLACK MUSLIMS OR ENSLAVE THEM. BLACKS NEED TO BE ENSLAVED IF THEY CONVERT TO A SLAVE RELIGION CALLED ISLAM. THEY ARE INSANE AND SHOULD NEVER COMPLAIN ABOUT AMERICAN SLAVERY, AS AMERICANS FREED BLACK, YET THE BLAME AND COMPLAIN AND THEN CONVERT BACK TO SLAVERY.LOOOOOOOOOOOL
Parviz
Thank you so much for your kind comments. You also appear to be well-versed and knowledgeable of scriptures. I love the Beatitudes of Jesus too! I agree with you when you said about shining the Light and Love of God to the muslims.
I believe that many muslims are controlled by a great fear planted in their hearts by their allah (or Muhammed, or both). Even when the Love of God is expressed and explained to them, they seem to be in
a kind of "spiritual spell" planted by their allah (or Muhammed, or both) and they just can't seem to shake it off (so to speak). It is as though they have a dark thick covering in their spirits, preventing them from seeing the Shining Light of Jesus Christ. What do you think?
God Bless You.
Dear Truthseeker,
You wrote : " I believe that many muslims are controlled by a great fear planted in their hearts by their allah (or Muhammed, or both). Even when the Love of God is expressed and explained to them, they seem to be in
a kind of “spiritual spell” planted by their allah (or Muhammed, or both) and they just can’t seem to shake it off (so to speak). It is as though they have a dark thick covering in their spirits, preventing them from seeing the Shining Light of Jesus Christ. What do you think? "
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Since you asked for my thoughts, without repeating myself, on another topic I gave several replies to a lady by pen name Sarah which reflects my thoughts . You can read them on the following link.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/10/12/in-islam-y…
Many of the folks who comment on FFI are Ex-Muslims who are now either agnostics or atheists. As you know Muslims are taught from early childhood that religions which do not have holy books are idolators. Of those which have Holy books, i.e. The Jews and Christians, their Holy books have been corrupted, and besides, the Christians have 3 Gods ! So there you have it. A person who leaves Islam has nowhere to turn to, so they become agnostics or atheists. In this day and age of science and experimentation it is much easier, hip and intellectual to claim that there is no God than believe that there is one. One can not show that there is a God by experimenting in some laboratory.
The Bible does not argue about it at all, it is not in the business of proving it . It states very matter of factly in it's very first book , Genesis, and in the very first verse that, " In the beginning God……. ". In the New Testament, John's gospel starts with, " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God….." . And we read in the book of Acts how the Apostle Paul "reasoned" with the Athenians about their " unknown god " and his very own, the" known God". He failed to convince them. I figure that if such a great Apostle was unable to convince the elite and intellectuals of Athens, who am I to try. Anyway, to try to prove or disprove God is futile ( At the end of this note I will post an article I found interesting ) . We don't see the wind but when we see trees bend to the east we say the wind is blowing from the west, and we believe that there is such thing called the wind. We don't see the heat from the sun, but we feel its warmth. So we don't see God who is Spirit, but in many of our lives we know that Spirit is in action, by faith. The disciples felt the Holy Spirit come upon them as a rushing wind.
I left Islam when I was 13. I was in an exclusive international boarding school in England and all the students where from every corner of the worlds, mostly the sons of very high people in their governments . We talked about our cultures , beliefs, and religions. To discuss and debate with some intelligence I started reading not only the Qur'an but other books, including the Bible. Between leaving Islam and being saved by God's Grace took 26 years, and now 30 years has gone by since then. In my old age I still get excited when I see the Love of God in operation.
Today I was reading Apostle Paul's letter to the Glatians, and was awe stricken by it's contrast to any of the saying of the Qur'an, and this is true with every scripture in the New Testament. This is Glatian 5 verses 13-15 " You, my brothers, were called to be free ( Jesus has set us free ). But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather serve one another in love. The entire law is summed up in a single command : " love your neighbor as yourself " . If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other ".
Now the article I mentioned:
Scientists in recent years have accumulated evidence showing that specific features in creation—Earth, in particular—must be extremely fine-tuned in order to support life.
One obvious example is the Earth’s distance from the sun. It is just right to keep temperatures here hospitable—somewhere between negative 30 degrees and 120 degrees Fahrenheit. If we were further away, we would freeze; if we were closer to the sun, we would roast.
Each year, we recognize more of these finely tuned features that allow for life here. In 1988, Dr. Hugh Ross’s team of astronomy researchers counted 15 features that had to bejust so for any life to survive. By 1991, they had counted two more. By 1995, they had come to see yet nine morefeatures that had to be exactly right. By 1998, the total number had risen to 34 features. Any significant change in any one of these conditions, and none of us would be here.
Of course, each of these features exponentially increases the improbability that life just happened to come about here without deliberate design. It makes it that much less likelythat all of this evolved by chance.
By 2001, this research team had found 41 features. By 2004, 77 features. By 2005, 93 features. By 2006, they’d come to recognize 140 features—all perfectly lined up so life can exist on this planet.
And these features must align precisely for any physical life to survive, even just a single-celled organism. For an advanced human civilization to exist, the features that scientists have realized must be in place are far, far more numerous. In Why the Universe Is the Way It Is, Dr. Ross says it would take “at least [10 to the 700th power] times more fine-tuning precision” for a high-tech civilization like ours than for just single-cell life that survives for 90 days or less. “To put this number [10 to the 700th power] into perspective, the total number of protons and neutrons in the entire observable universe amounts to [10 to the 79th power].”
Our planet is an incomprehensibly fine-tuned precision machine!
This is strong evidence that there had to be a Designer.
Did you realize that most of the universe in its present form is uninhabitable? It is too hot or too cold—too dense or too vacuous—too dark or too bright. It has too much radiation, or too few of the heavy elements required for life. Gravitational forces are too intense—environments are too unstable.
Scientists have come to recognize just how remarkable and fortuitous our cosmic location is. We are far enough from the center of the Milky Way so we’re not bombarded by radiation. We are nowhere near dangerous star clusters or quasars or nebulae. We are right next to this very stable star called the sun. A whole host of factors make our planet’s position just perfect. “Earth is quite a charmed planet,” wrote Peter Ward and Donald Brownlee in Rare Earth.
And it is “charmed” in more than just its location. Earth is 7,913.1 miles in diameter, and even though it just “floats in space,” it weighs about 6,000 million, million, million tons. Scientists have learned several reasons why this is the ideal size. For example, if it were smaller, an atmosphere would be impossible, like the planet Mercury. If it were larger, we couldn’t live in its atmosphere—it would be like Jupiter’s.
Humans need 27 elements to live: hydrogen, oxygen, carbon, calcium, iron, sodium, potassium and so on. Earth has just the right mix of all of them, with a rich abundance of rare but vital heavy elements in its core and sprinkled through its crust and mantle.
Earth’s distance from both the sun and the moon are also perfect to ensure it has a stable, predictable orbit with 24-hour days. Thus, the planet doesn’t get too hot or too cold; the entire surface of Earth is properly warmed and cooled every day. (If, for example, the sun were smaller and Earth had to be closer to it in order to receive enough warmth for life, the planet’s rotation would be dangerously affected by the sun’s gravity: The same side of Earth could be locked into facing the sun at all times—as the moon is to Earth—thus baking half the planet and freezing the other.)
Thanks to our single large moon (its mass compared to the Earth is an incredible 50 times greater than any other moon-planet combination we know of), Earth is tilted at a nice, gentle 23.5-degree angle. Planets that have no moons or a relatively small moon have a rotation axis that tilts very chaotically. Without our moon, Earth would experience catastrophic climate changes. But as it is, that tilt gives us predictable, pleasant seasonal changes that provide variety and facilitate annual food production all over the planet.
These are extraordinary features. Recognizing this, scientists have concocted elaborate explanations of how they all came about through indiscriminate natural forces over billions of years. But the book of Job provides a more plausible explanation.
Job was a great builder. In Job 38, God provided an extraordinary picture of a moment in the universe’s history: when He built the Earth.
“Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?declare, if thou hast understanding” (Job 38:4). Our planet didn’t come to inhabit its perfect place in the cosmos haphazardly. God says in this verse that He actively set the Earth in this precise location.
“Who determined [Earth’s] measurements?” God asked Job. “Surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it?” (verse 5, New King James Version). Our planet’s size and extraordinary elemental composition are not the product of arbitrary forces. They were measured and precisely surveyed—perfectly prepared to suit God’s purposes.
“Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof,” God continued (verse 6). The physical forces that anchor our planet and stabilize it, so crucial to its being able to host life, aren’t luck. Our Creator established them.
Everyone who sees that kind of meticulous and stunning handiwork should be shouting God’s praises!
After hearing God’s speech, Job was humbled. His appreciation for God’s creative genius and power multiplied, and his perspective on himself had shrunk to far more realistic proportions.
Today’s scientific revelations are telling us the same basic truths, confirming the biblical record. Surely we should be similarly awed and inspired. •
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May the Lord Bless you.
Parvis.
It strikes one as quite worrisome whenever it becomes apparent that a grown person subscribes to wishful thinking, as you left Islam due to your rational reasons, one would have thought you have decided to be an attentive and logical individual. you said god does not need to be proven, in that case, how do we know a true god? we have a huge number of god/gods and godheads who give promises of emancipation to the followers, could all those gods be true simply because we don't need to prove them? could it be your own god that doesn't need that proof? you said we can not see the wind but whenever we see the tree swaying to its effect, we say there goes the wind, is this a fitting counter argument to those who say they can not prove god? as you are a christian now, you surely understand the incompatible nature of the christian salvation with the Muslim's version, what if a Muslim throws the wind argument to you to prove his god?
The whole premises of atheism is grossly misunderstood by many, to an atheist, he/she lacks the proof of god, they see the similarity in both the early human tree gods and the monotheistic versions, to an atheist, god is not disproven but unproven, just because we lack the knowledge of our origins does not mean an-all merciful lord created us just to roast half of us in the lake of fire for all eternity, your wind analogy is a Deistic approach, if you can prove god's existence, you will have to also show how he belonged to Christianity otherwise you are just a Deist.
The biggest misconception the believers have on Atheist is that they think atheist don't wonder about the workings of the universe, we all do, but atheist just don't jump to conclusions without evidence, to most atheist, the world is not a close system like the holy books, everything is open to corrections and better understandings, this is why the holy books are replete with errors that could only be dodged or rationalised through huge acrobatics, somehow the fear instilled from childhood, fear of hell-fire controls the religious, not that they really have that faith, have a great one.
Dear BustedDivinity
Before responding to your comment I like to say that on these FFI web sites I have great respect for all types of points of views, and all different kinds of beliefs.
Secondly, I have had the position of Senior Researcher at several major pharmaceutical houses, have had a part in discovery of some important drugs, and all my life been spent in proving or disproving theories and hypothesis. I have received my education in top universities in England and in the USA. I say all this not to boast but to tell you that I am very familiar with proving or disproving assumptions. Please don't think that if someone accepts God by " faith " rather than by some scientific proof he is a moron. The greatest minds such as Sir Isaac Newton, the greatest scientist who ever lived, was a devout christian, and wrote more on the expositions of the Bible than on his scientific achievements. Although the laws of motion and universal gravitation became Newton's best-known discoveries, he warned against using them to view the Universe as a mere machine, as if akin to a great clock. He said, "Gravity explains the motions of the planets, but it cannot explain who set the planets in motion. God governs all things and knows all that is or can be done." Albert Einstein, seeing a wingless fly on his research note book, declared how helpless and hopeless he was in comparison to the almighty God, that even after cracking the secrets of the atom to make the atom bomb, and discovering the theory of relativity which still many don't understand fully, with all this knowledge, he couldn't attach a simple wing to a fly and cause him to fly away. So belief in God doesn't have to be the business of ignorant and stupid. Read the testimony of another great physicist Dr. Hugh Ross, who at the age of 17 became the director of the Canadian Observatory; http://www.reasons.org/dr-hugh-ross.html. I can give you dozens and dozens of great men of science who believed in God without as you say it " proving it ". Read the works of the great professor of classics C.S. Lewis, specially his book entitled " Mere Christianity "; or the books by the great heat surgeon Dr. Martyn Lloyed-Jones, and if you like read his book, " God The Father, God The Son and God The Holy Spirit", or his book on " Studies In The Sermon On The Mount ".
So, dear BustedDivinity, if you ever wished to take the Bible seriously, rather than a book for the simple minded, a book of myth, a book of fables, then I would be more than happy show you God not by my words but by the scriptures. For me to write more at this time is like blowing in the wind.
By the way, I said wind, it reminded me of your objection to my analogy. What I said was based on the Biblical sayings. Jesus used the analogy of wind in his parables, and also commanded his disciples to wait and not go out proclaiming him to the world till the Holy Spirit had come upon them. Then in Acts chapter 2, and verses 1-2 we read: "When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting." This was the Holy Spirit.
finally, read what Apostle paul said to the atheists and philosophers of Athens in the Book of Acts, Chapter 17 beginning with verse 16 , " While Paul was waiting for them in Athens, he was greatly distressed to see that the city was full of idols. So he reasoned in the synagogue with the Jews and the God-fearing Greeks, as well as in the marketplace day by day with those who happened to be there. A group of Epicurean and Stoic philosophers began to dispute with him. Some of them asked, "What is this babbler trying to say?" Others remarked, "He seems to be advocating foreign gods." They said this because Paul was preaching the good news about Jesus and the resurrection. Then they took him and brought him to a meeting of the Areopagus, where they said to him, "May we know what this new teaching is that you are presenting? You are bringing some strange ideas to our ears, and we want to know what they mean." (All the Athenians and the foreigners who lived there spent their time doing nothing but talking about and listening to the latest ideas.)
Paul then stood up in the meeting of the Areopagus and said: "Men of Athens! I see that in every way you are very religious. For as I walked around and looked carefully at your objects of worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: TO AN UNKNOWN GOD. Now what you worship as something unknown I am going to proclaim to you.
"The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands. And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything, because he himself gives all men life and breath and everything else. From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live. God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us. 'For in him we live and us. 'For move and have our being.' As some of your own poets have said, 'We are his offspring.'
"Therefore since we are God's offspring, we should not think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone—an image made by man's design and skill. In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men by raising him from the dead."
When they heard about the resurrection of the dead, some of them sneered, but others said, "We want to hear you again on this subject." At that, Paul left the Council. A few men became followers of Paul and believed. Among them was Dionysius, a member of the Areopagus, also a woman named Damaris, and a number of others.
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Finally, another quote from the Scriptures " Without faith it is impossible to please God ". faith=trust=believing in
Meaning we come to God in need of understanding , not saying God, I know everything, I am so wise, that if you don't prove yourself to me, then no dice. If we put all our wisdom together it will less than God's foolishness.
And please don't keep harping on hell. The story of the Bible is one of God's love affair with us whom he created. Don't ask me why He created us , He just did !! And we goofed royally !. We told Him we love ourselves more than we love You. He tried time and agin to show us His love, and we rejected Him. Finally, He, like a solder put on man's appearance and infiltrated the enemy's territory. You said how can we know God. He put on a fantastic show after show. Healed the illness of people. Opened their eyes from blindness so they could recognize Him. Opened their ears so they could hear His message. Forgave their sins. Showed authority over nature, silenced the winds and storms. Drove out demons. Raised people from dead. What that he did not do. Apostle John wrote at the end of his Gospel, John 21:25 , " Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written. "
May the Lord One God, over and above ALL things, bless you abundantly.
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If you had read and study the Bible and Quran (both Theology and Historical) you should know a HUGE difference between Islam and Christianity.
Oh seems the second enemy is coming up more in these threads…. read my name to know who he is
Truth is simple and explosive.It's there for all to feel, see, hear and die. Truth is that islam is a violent cult of cruel, brain dead, virulent, people with no civilisational sense or national loyalty.
Islam is not a religion of peace.The peacefull explosion carried out by the brain dead followers of allah the pimp and sadis t rapist mohammad has deafened and blinded the kafirs.The kafirs are being simply stupid to chant the islam means peace mantra on behalf of the cruel moslems.
Congratulations for seeing the truth and leaving that despicable cult.
Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance !!!??? ……………………………………………………………… Biggest joke ever made by muslim.
Islam will be destroyed. Islam will not conquer the world. Islam will be defeated. Islam is not a religion, but an evil organization. Islam converts and supporters will leave by the thousands, as they see and understand the real truth about islam and the horrible history of evil mo. You radical muslims are sick in your minds. Brain-washed beyond any help. You are dangerous to this planet in the solar system. Damn your religion of human pieces. To hell with you butchers. You are just evil cowards. And, to hell with anybody with any sense of humanity to protect or assist with these evil imposters of "peace" for any political gains in America. You political morons. You pathetic political swines for falling into a "trance" with these evil bastards. They are just using you political people for their stealth evil agendas. These evil muslims have no idea what love is or kindness or gentleness, just the love of brutal control and the spilling of blood. I quess when the Iranian lunitic leader launches their nukes of peace and love, maybe that is when islam wil die and be banished from existance on this planet.
Evil persons like evil. Hitler was an evil person and all agree on that. Muslims may say in front of camera , but behind they praise him a lot. As germans also despise Hitler and feel ashamed that such n evil was born in germany. Hitler liked Islam too much and knew that Islam although is brutal, but lacked intelligence and thus he invented nazism, which was actually a new koran as told by Churchill. Churchill knew that like nazism should be finished in the bud otherwise nazism will become a mass cult like Islam.
Unfortunately free world should identify this bigger evil and should use all means possible to finish islam or contain them to fixed areas.
I did a search on "Churchill and Islam" in google and came across this piece which I have the pleasure to share (copy – paste) with readers at FFI:
Churchill on Islam
Since politicians and neocons like to make themselves seem strong when responding to Muslim terrorism by joining themselves to the ghost of Winston Churchill, it would be appropriate to see what Churchill himself thought about Islam. This is from his 1899 book, The River War, written when he was 24 years old:
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.…A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities … but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome. [The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pp. 248-50.]
Please note that the Islam that Churchill is describing as inherently a slave system, as inherently presenting an ongoing threat to Europe, is not “radical” Islam, not “political” Islam, not “Islamo-fascism.” It is traditional, normative, orthodox Islam.
Yet the very people who rush to put on Churchill’s mantle would deny this truth. Imagine if one of the speakers at that Claremont Institute dinner, where the Winston Churchill award was given to Mark Steyn, had read aloud this passage of Churchill’s. The room would have fallen into an embarrassed silence. The speaker would be seen as having committed an unpardonable offense against propriety.
An Indian living in the West writes:
What a beautiful passage. Thanks for posting that.
There is more to this passage than meets the eye. Note how Churchill separates the individual qualities of some Muslims from the nature of the religion and sees how the perversity of the religion often destroys noble qualities among its adherents.
This is a point that cannot be repeated often enough. I grew up with Muslims. My first friend in life when I was barely five years old was the son of a Muslim neighbour and family friend. And I can recount countless instances of warmth, hospitality, civility and tremendous respect shown by individual Muslims (and Muslim families) towards my family.
Which is why the characterisation of all criticism of Islam as “hatred” for every individual Muslims is so absurd. When the West opposed Communism and when Conservatives criticised Communism day and night, they didn’t do so because they hated Russians. And the confrontation with Nazism was not because of a hatred for Germans as Germans. So why should honest criticism of Islam be seen as “hatred” for Muslims?
Because 99 percent of all Muslims are not White (certainly the ones settled in the West). Therefore, criticism is automatically verboten.
"Based on these factual accounts I only wish all the westerners to open their eyes and pay serious attention to the growing number of Muslim extremists and the teachings of Islam, the fountain-head of terrorism in today’s world and the greatest threat to the ideals of a free humanity."
I wish all westerners would get their heads out of the sand and start paying attention to this totalitarian and barbaric religion.
Muslims make a big claim that Islam means peace and those who do not agree with them, they will kill them and then the Muslims repeat Islam means peace even after they have blown bodies to pieces, literally millions of pieces!!
One of my biggest dillemas with Islam is that I don't know who's really Satan. Is it Muhammad or Allah?
Maybe Allah is the alter ego of Muhammad.
This Hadith shows that Allah & Satan is the same.(Allah is the Lord of Hell):
Sahih Bukhari (vol.4,book 54,no.482)
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said,"The (Hell) Fire complained to it's Lord saying,'O Lord! My different parts eat up each other.'So,He allowed it to take two breaths,one in the winter and the other in summer,and this is the reason for the severe heat & the bitter cold you find (in the weather)."
Santiago
It is the muslim god (ALLAH) who is actually SATAN, not Muhammed himself.
The Bible teaches that Satan wanted to take the place of the True God (the Creator) and become like Him (the Creator). In other words, SATAN wanted to be ALMIGHTY GOD. The muslims believe Allah is the True God (the Creator) .
Bible teaches that SATAN appears as an Angel of Light to deceive people. Quran teaches that ALLAH sent an angel (Gabriel – Jibril in Arabic) as an angel of light to Muhammed, but this Jibril was a Demon from SATAN.
Bible also teaches that SATAN was (and always will be) a Murderer from the beginning and goes around like a "roaring lion" destroying whoever he may devour – this ALLAH does the same thing using Jihadis to murder those who don't believe in Islam.
Bible teaches that SATAN is the Master Deceiver of mankind – Quran teaches that ALLAH is the Master Deceiver. The True God teaches that he can NEVER deceive people or lie, and that it is impossible for
Him to do so..
Bible teaches that SATAN misguides mankind – Quran teaches that ALLAH misguides whoever he wills.
Bible teaches that the True God is the Author and Giver of Life, and is no Respecter of Man (meaning He
views and regards all Mankind equally), and LOVES All persons who were ever born (as individuals).
Quran teaches that ALLAH tells Muhammed to "Kill and Smite" those who don't believe in him (Allah) and the religion (Islam). This Allah even incites muslims to kill his (Allah's) own worshippers (Believers in Islam) if they leave the religion. This leaves the muslims "TRAPPED" in Islam. What an awful predicament to be in. Fortunately, many many muslims are opening their eyes to these things and more, and are leaving Islam – very brave and courageous people.
Unfortunately, Muhammed was duped, deceived and misguided by this evil false god called "Allah" (SATAN) who sent a false angel who called himsel "Gabriel" who appeared as an angel of light to Muhammed to deceive him. Muhammed was evil because he was inspired by an evil god (Allah). Muhammed wasn't sure whether he was a Prophet or not, it was his wife (Khadijah) who confirmed to him that he was a Prophet. But, in Islam a woman's testimony is regarded as insufficient to that of a man's testimony, so can we believe Khadija? Also, No-One was with Muhammed in the caves to actually witness his claims about the angelic appearance.
ALLAH is none other than SATAN disguised as the True God (the Creator).
THINK: Sahih Bukhari (Vol 4, Book 54, No. 482) Allah's Apostle said "The (Hell) Fire complained to its Lord saying "O Lord, my different parts eat up each other. So, He allowed it to take two breaths, one in the winter, and the other in summer, and this is the reason for the severe heat and the bitter cold you find (in the weather)".
THINK: SATAN is Lord of Hell Fire – the TRUE GOD (the Creator) is LORD OF HEAVEN.
Seeing that SATAN is Lord of Hell Fire, Muhammed would HAVE TO KNOW who Hell Fire's Lord is, to actually say that "Hell Fire complained to its Lord". If Muhammed DID NOT KNOW who Hell Fire's Lord is, then how could he say that Hell Fire complained to its Lord?
Yes, you are right – the above Hadith spoken by Muhammed shows that SATAN and ALLAH are One and the Same Being.
We all live only once in this life on Earth – get knowledge and read both the Bible and the Quran to get the facts on this issue.