Islamic Ramadan Begins, Blood Keeps Flowing
Lee Jay Walker
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The period of Ramadan is meant to be a holy period for Muslims and this applies to fasting and other things. However, in reality Ramadan is just another month for Islamists and daily killings take place. Therefore, why do Islamists keep on terrorizing during the so-called holy period of Ramadan?
After all, shortly before the run-up to Ramadan in 2009 you have the usual Islamic carnage of terrorism, sectarian violence, and so forth. This applies to many people being killed in Sunni-Shia related issues in Yemen; inter Sunni Muslim fighting in Somalia; inter Sunni Muslim deaths in Pakistan; and the daily carnage in Afghanistan and Iraq continues.
Yet after only a few days of the new Ramadan period in 2009 it is abundantly clear that Islamists are bent on killing both fellow Muslims and non-Muslims.
In my article titled “USA appeases Islam under President Obama” I rebuke Obama openly for manipulating reality. The current ongoing violence is yet another example of the bloodthirsty nature of radical Islam and I would argue, of Islam itself, but I will come back to this later.
I stated in my article about Obama that “In the world of Obama he states that the rituals of Ramadan “remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.” Therefore, what “justice” and “tolerance” is Obama talking about?”
If we look at events before Ramadan and during Ramadan, then it is abundantly clear that even during the holy month of Islam that the blood keeps on flowing.
Therefore, why so much violence during Ramadan? Or is the question pointless given the nature of Islam itself when we focus on the Hadiths and the Koran?
Before focusing on both these two questions, it is important to state that I am talking about the tenets of Islam and not ordinary Muslims. After all, much of the current Sunni Islamic violence is aimed at fellow Muslims and I would argue that Muslims are the first victims of Islam because they are regulated by laws which infringe on their civil liberty.
Remember, if a Zoroastrian converts to Christianity in Iran or the other way around, then the individual is free to do so or at the very least they will not suffer for leaving their past religion. However, if a Muslim converts to Christianity or Buddhism in Iran then they face either death or prison.
Therefore, complete mind control is being used against Muslims in order to maintain their allegiance to the Islamic faith. After all, apostates in Saudi Arabia and Somalia face death, and honour killings, persecution or alienation of former Muslims is taking place throughout the world.
Of course, in all other areas of Islam it is clear that non-Muslims are at a major disadvantage or they face complete annihilation, just like Buddhists and Hindus who were annihilated in Afghanistan in past history.
This applies to the very nature of Islam itself because Islamic Sharia law discriminates against all non-Muslims. For can any Muslim person state where Islamic Sharia law allows Muslims to freely leave Islam or where non-Muslims have equality in Islamic Sharia law?
Even today, in 2009, you have 7 Islamic nations which support the death penalty for leaving the Islamic faith and of course these nations are based on Islamic Sharia law and enforcing dhimmitude on all non-Muslims. Therefore, is this hatred a natural dimension to the worldview of Islamic radicalism or should I say radical Islamic fascism?
Remember, in nations like Saudi Arabia, the sizeable non-Muslim migrant population isn’t allowed to build one single Buddhist temple, Christian church or Hindu temple. Therefore, we are not seeing mutual respect or justice, like Obama states, in the land of Mecca and Medina. On the contrary, we are seeing regulated hatred towards non-Muslims via Islamic Sharia law and complete mind control of Muslims because they face death if they desire to leave Islam in Saudi Arabia.
Therefore, where does all this hatred come from? Alas, it is clear to many where this inspired hatred comes from but of course this does not mean that the majority of Muslims are violent, of course not; Muslims are mere individuals just like atheists, Buddhists, Christians, Hindus, and so forth.
However, Muslims have strict guidelines to follow and if a Muslim is to follow the guidelines of the Hadiths, the Koran, and Islamic Sharia law completely; then the outcome is obvious to Islamists because this means the implementation of laws which infringe on the rights of non-Muslims and limits the freedom of moderate Muslims.
If we return to Ramadan and why Islamists continue to kill during this so-called holy period then I would state that it is because of the nature of Islam itself.
Mohammed stated to (Koran 9:29) “Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.”
Of course apologists or liberals will gloss over this statement and countless others; however, for Islamists or normal Muslim religious leaders in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, and many other nations, they firmly believe that it is their duty to Islamize the nation state and then to spread Islamization and to install a new Islamic caliphate where the nation state is unimportant.
Despite this, in history it is clear that Islam was never united because divisions soon engulfed Islam and early Muslim rulers were often killed by Muslims. However, from the very outset of Islam it was clear that violence was part and parcel of the Muslim faith because Mohammed ordered attacks against Jews and Pagans.
It is clear that Mohammed did not support the concepts of either the Buddha or Jesus. After all, the Buddha and Jesus were not interested about military power or state sanctioned control and they never ordered the killings of others or inflicted violence towards others.
Mohammed, however, states the following:
“O Prophet! Make war against the unbelievers [all non-Muslims] and the hypocrites and be merciless against them. Their home is hell, an evil refuge indeed.” (Koran, 9:73)
“When you meet the unbelievers in jihad [holy war], chop off their heads. And when you have brought them low, bind your prisoners rigorously. Then set them free or take ransom from them until the war is ended.” (Koran, 47:4)
“The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be to be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and genitals cut off, or to be expelled out of the land. Such will be their humiliation in the world, and in the next world they will face an awful horror.” (Koran, 5:33-34)
“When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet sin. So that Allah’s word is proven true against them, then we destroy them utterly.” (Koran, 17:16-17)
“In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones [all non-Muslims] one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell. They will have been the ones to have lost.” (Koran, 8:37)
“How many were the populations we utterly destroyed because of their sins, setting up in their place other peoples.” (Koran, 21:11)
“Remember Allah inspired the angels: I am with you. Give firmness to the believers. I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their fingertips off of them.” (Koran, 8:12)
Qur’an-(5:51): “O you who believe! Do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people. ”
Qur’an-(9:5): “But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, And seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent (accept Islam) and establish regular prayers and practices regular charity then open the way for them; for God is oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.”
These statements by Mohammed also show how he changed because when he was weak he spoke about compassion, however, once he obtained power his true message changed and in many ways, this is the danger of the stealth jihad which is implemented via propaganda.
However, it is vital to remember that Islamists, be they clerics in Saudi Arabia who are inciting violence towards all apostates and non-Muslims; or if an Islamist like Osama Bin Laden; they are abiding by the Koran, the Hadiths, and Islamic Sharia law.
Apologists and liberals will point out that other holy books have negative passages or passages which incite hatred; and this is partly true, however, it is clear that all religions reform themselves and in the 21st century the message of hatred is still strong in Islam.
More worrying, is that Islam is not a mere religion, it is a way of life and which supports the supremacy of Muslims over non-Muslims. Islam is a fusion of faith, indoctrination, a legal system based on discrimination towards non-Muslims, authoritarianism, and the theory of dhimmitude; and Islam is a religion which rewards Muslims for fighting against non-Muslims.
Even during Ramadan it is clear that war is sanctioned and Mohammed himself prepared Muslims for war during this so-called holy month; therefore, the current massacres and killings are an ongoing tradition in Islam with roots in Mohammed and his teachings and deeds.
Maulana Noor Muhammad, a spokesman for the Islamic organization Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam which is based in Pakistan, stated Muhammad often undertook battles during Ramadan.
He continued that “In such pious times, participate in jihad and continue the support to the mujahideen.” “Nowadays, infidel forces want to destroy Islam and the Koranic orders. The fight [against the infidels] is not the responsibility of Taliban and Arab mujahedeen alone; rather it is the responsibility of the entire Ummah [Muslim world].’’
Given this, the ongoing persecution of all non-Muslims is still being implemented in the cradle of Islam, Saudi Arabia, and this hatred is also being enforced in many other mainly Islamic nations.
Today, just like the 7th century, Islam is still killing apostates or persecuting them. Today, just like in the 7th century, Muslims are still waging wars against non-Muslims in countless numbers of nations. Today, just like the 7th century, Muslim fanatics are still killing fellow Muslims who are deemed to be not Muslim enough.
The apologists will keep on making excuses; however, it is clear that in many parts of the Islamic dominated world, that hatred still dictates. Therefore, in 2009, just like in the 7th century, non-Muslims still suffer enormous persecution and some Islamists are still dreaming of spreading Islam by the sword or by propaganda.
Anyone who doubts this threat should focus on Saudi Arabia because in the land of Mecca and Medina they still support killing apostates, persecuting all non-Muslims, persecuting Shia Muslims, and exporting this hatred to many nations.
Posted by Lee Jay Walker
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To Busted Divinity
You said:
Great piece, I wonder how any sincere human will not be ridicule allah/Mohammad after reading the verse: 5:33-34, how can a merciful creator with powers to do all things fail to find a better way to issue threats but resort to some form of pornographic torture, the verse says ‘have their genitals cut’ I don’t believe in any monotheistic or other common deities, but any god worthy of his salts won’t be that much of a jerk.
I say:
The verse you refer to is as follows:
"The punishment of those who wage war against God and His Apostle, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter; Except for those who repent before they fall into your power: in that case, know that God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. (The Noble Quran, 5:33-34)"
Now please let me know exactly WHERE God said cut their genitals?
Thanks.
Kabirlaw
Muslims beheaded 900 Jews in Yathrib and then renamed Yathrib Medina, during which time Muhammad and his thugs raided the caravan of 1000 people on their way to do Ramadan, unarmed and Muhammad was armed and had planned to rob them. Muslims cut the genitals off of over 100 million Africans in the Eastern Slave trade and killed all over 12. Allah said by any mean necessary. allah is the DEVIL, the greatest liar, schemer, deceiver and he braged about it in quran 3:54. Bible called the DEVIL deceiver in 98 Ce when Revelation 12:9 was written by John.
I request the custodian of holy mosques in the sacred land of Saudi Arabia to allow building of Churches / Temples of other faith in your country. Other countries should not allow Muslims to build Mosques anywhere in the world unless Saudi Arabia allows Prayer house of other faiths in their country. This request even applies to all the gulf countries. When you deny freedom of faith in your country, how dare you are allowed to build your Mosques wherever you wanted.
I wouldn't say that Ramadan is just another month for killing – it is THE month for killing. Think about it, the Islamofacists get 70 times the reward for killing the kaafirs because Allah is Most Merciful – or so Islam dictates. After all, doesn't Ramadan involve an increase in terrorist atrocities? The great Dr. Sina enlightens us in this passage:
"It is important, in studying Islam, to note the call to prayer was also the call to war. Muslim's riots and hooliganism always initiate from the mosques after they offer their prayers. They are most vicious during the holy month of Ramadan and on Fridays." (Sina, "Understanding Muhammad," p. 51)
I'm sorry if it doesn't seem like I read the passage properly. I just wanted to clarify a point of misunderstanding.
Kabirlaw
The verse in the article described a deranged man's method of punishment, cutting off of hands and legs from a certain direction can't be godly sanctioned, you could be right that genitals won't be cut,or the article writer might have a reason for that translation, however, more barbaric threats which insults the merciful nature of any decent human being have been made by Allah, in sura 22:19-22, god promised 'pouring of boiling fluid down human heads whereby that which is in their bellies and skins too will be melted' Imagine this torture, all the parts of human body melting away, this is worst than cutting off of parts, still people will follow the maniac who came with such a message.
Another torture method by Mohammad could be found in Bukhari vol 4, no. 3018, after the camel urine medicine was prescribed by Mohammad, the sick people reportedly got better and killed one of their escorts at the same time stole their camels, when they were captured, the prophet ordered their limbs chopped off and later a glowing red hot nail was driven into their eyes and they were hauled on rocky surface to die slow from over exposure to sun.
Dismemberment, disembowelment, decapitation and general mutilation stories in Islam made any horrid torture story attributable to Islam, if a woman's leg will be tied to two horses for ripping apart what inhumanity story won't we accept from Islam? One doesn't even need these torture stories to be an apostate, the sheer contradictions, scientific and historical blunders, the need for faith and disregard for evidence are enough to make any sincere Muslim an apostate.
I can't believe you guys actually believed this crap! What are you, brain dead yourselves?
…Man, people can't even tell this a lie/distortion of facts when they read it with their OWN EYES.
Although aya 5.33 only requires cutting of hands and feet of infidels but I bet Allah does reward if a muslim cuts the genitals of an infidel in addition to his hands and feet on his own to get extra credit.The true muslims who attacked Bombay last November did just that and cut and mutilated the genitals of the jewsih woman they killed after raping her and also cut the genitals of her husband aftershooting him complying ayas 9.5(slay the infidels) 4.3,4.24,23.5, 33.50 and 70.30(have sex with the captured women).
During partition in 1947 it was the favourite activity of true muslim ruffians to cut the genitals of hindus and Sikhs men after killing them.a and cut the breasts of their women after raping them.
Hindu,
"When you deny freedom of faith in your country, how dare you are allowed to build your Mosques wherever you wanted."
Hmm, let me guess, it's allah's will. Conquering all nation to sharia law. This type of double standard is nothing new from brain dead muslims. You can have mosques in italy, but you can't have churches in saudi (hell) arabia. You can have mosques in India, but you can't have temples in saudi barbaria and other islamic countries. And yet they feel nothing about it and go on complaining about themselves, disgusting isn't it?
Cutting hands and feets are allah's will. A barbaric god indeed. Cutting genitals is a part of islamic history, it was born from various interpretations.
"Although aya 5.33 only requires cutting of hands and feet of infidels but I bet Allah does reward if a muslim cuts the genitals of an infidel in addition to his hands and feet on his own to get extra credit.The true muslims who attacked Bombay last November did just that and cut and mutilated the genitals of the jewsih woman they killed after raping her and also cut the genitals of her husband aftershooting him complying ayas 9.5(slay the infidels) 4.3,4.24,23.5, 33.50 and 70.30(have sex with the captured women).
During partition in 1947 it was the favourite activity of true muslim ruffians to cut the genitals of hindus and Sikhs men after killing them.a and cut the breasts of their women after raping them."
Eeewww, Mohammed. your post was revealing. Don't forget allah the barbarian god also ordered muslim to cut infidels's fingers. What a yakuza he is.
Moslem skunks deserve all the punishments that the pimp allah wants infidels to sufer.The stupid skunks deserve the worst. The worst of the two legged animals are moslem skunks.
To All Y'all
Some punishments you have described are punishments that will take place in hell and are not prescribed as punishments on earth. Every religion's concept of hell is a horrendous one and we all know that Hell is a despciable and evil abode – Islam is no different in this.
However, you are talking about the mutilation of people's bodies. Muslims were the first victims of mutilation of the dead at the baddle of Uhud. Even then, when the Prophet, in his anger (because his own uncle's dead body had been mutilated by the pagan Arabs), stated that he would mutilate (I think it was two or ten for each Muslim mutilated) Allah revealed that Muslims should not retaliate and mutilate bodies like the pagans.
Mutilation refers to disfiguring the bodies of the dead as a means of exacting revenge. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) forbade mutilating the enemy corpses in war time, and his Companions (may Allah be pleased with all of them) followed his example in this.
However, some jurists hold that there is an exception, which is that Muslims are permitted to mutilate the dead only in retaliation for what was done to their dead (see above).
The Muslim scholar Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi states:
“Throughout human history, many transgressions have been practiced in war time. Mutilating the dead is one of these transgressions. Mutilation refers to taking revenge on an enemy by disfiguring his body, especially by violently removing a part of it. It may even involve removing from the corpse an organ such as the heart or the liver as a means of further satisfying one's thirst for revenge.
During the Battle of Uhud, the polytheists killed about 70 Muslims and mutilated some of their corpses. It was even said that Hind bint `Utbah, Abu Sufyan's wife, cut the abdomen of the Prophet's uncle Hamzah after he was killed, took out his liver, and tried to eat it to take revenge on him for killing her father earlier at the Battle of Badr. Abu Sufyan, who was the leader of the polytheists at the Battle of Uhud, shouted to the Muslims after the end of the battle, “You will find that some of your dead have been mutilated. I would like you to know that this has been done without my knowledge, yet it does not cause me harm.” (Reported by Al-Bukhari)
As for the attitude of Islam towards the issue of mutilation, it absolutely forbids mutilating the dead, [even if they are non-Muslims]. This is proved by many hadiths to that effect.
For example, it was reported on the authority of Buraydah (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) would say to the leaders of the Muslim army: “Fight in Allah's cause. Do not misappropriate (the booty), do not breach the covenants(s) [that you hold with others], and do not mutilate the dead.” (Reported by Muslim)
The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) was also reported to have said: “The noblest in the field of war are the people of faith.” (Reported by Abu Dawud) Nobility in the field of war here refers mainly to disinclining from mutilating the corpses of the enemy. This means that mutilation is against the dictates of faith in Islam.
Al-Hajaj ibn `Umran, a righteous successor, reported: A slave belonging to my father ran away, and he swore that if he found the slave, he would cut his hand off. He wanted me to ask for him about the lawfulness of his oath. I went to Samurah ibn Jundab [a companion of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him)] and asked him about that. He (Samurah) said, “The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) would encourage us to give in charity and forbid us to distort others' bodies.” (Reported by Abu Dawud)
Bearing in mind this Islamic teaching, Muslims in general believe that the corpses of the dead are inviolable. Hence, throughout the battles the Muslims fought, they did not mutilate the corpses of their enemies.
During the wars that broke out against the enemies of Islam after the Prophet's death, the Rightly-Guided Caliphs expressed utter opposition to being sent the heads of the enemy leaders whom the Muslims had beheaded in the course of the battles as a proof of the Muslims' having achieved victory in the war.
In this regard, it was reported that during the caliphate of Abu Bakr As-Siddiq (may Allah be pleased with him), `Abdullah ibn `Amir brought the head of one of the Roman leaders to Abu Bakr (may Allah be pleased with him) [to show him that the Muslims had achieved overwhelming victory over the Romans]. Abu Bakr (may Allah be pleased with him) denounced such an act. Upon that Ibn `Amir said, “O Caliph, they (that is, the Romans) do the same with us.” Abu Bakr (may Allah be pleased with him) replied angrily, “Do you follow in the footsteps of the Romans and Persians?” Then, Abu Bakr (may Allah be pleased with him), giving a general order to the Muslims, said, “From now on, no head of an enemy is to be sent to me. It is sufficient to write me a message [to inform me of victory].”
Let's contemplate this noble attitude of Abu Bakr (may Allah be pleased with him). He denounced Ibn `Amir's act and regarded it an imitation of a Roman and Persian tradition. This is to say, Muslims, by virtue of the noble teachings of their religion, are supposed to be followed by others, not to be followers of them.
It was also reported that some other time Abu Bakr (may Allah be pleased with him) was sent an enemy head. He said about the Muslims who had sent him the head that they had transgressed.
Abu Bakr (may Allah be pleased with him) was also reported to have said about such an act, “Do not bring filth to the city of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him).”
However, some jurists said that Muslims are permitted to mutilate the dead in war time only in case of retaliation, that is, as a means of taking vengeance for their mutilated dead.
To Raisin Head
You said:
allah is the DEVIL, the greatest liar, schemer, deceiver and he braged about it in quran 3:54. Bible called the DEVIL deceiver in 98 Ce when Revelation 12:9 was written by John.
I say:
Here is the verse you always talk about.
Surah 3:54
And (the unbelievers) plotted and planned, and Allah too planned, and the best of planners is Allah.
Now how does that equate with what you have just said above. For the sake of completeness Allah says the following about the Devil:
Truly Satan is an enemy to you. So treat him as an enemy, by being obedient to Allah and do not obey him. His followers will be the inhabitants of the hell, the fierce Fire.
(Did I not make a contract with you, tribe of Adam, not to worship Satan, who truly is an outright enemy to you, but to worship Me? That is a straight path. He has led numerous people among you into error. Why did you not use your intellect?) (Ya-Sin 36:60-62)
(We created you and then formed you and then We said to the angels, “Prostrate before Adam,” and they prostrated—except for Iblis. He was not among those who prostrated. He (Allah) said, “What prevented you from prostrating when I commanded you to?” He (Satan) replied, “I am better than him. You created me from fire and You created him from clay.” He (Allah) said, “Descend from Heaven. It is not for you to be arrogant in it. So get out! You are one of the abased.” He (Satan) said, “Grant me a reprieve until the day they are raised up.” He (Allah) said, “You are one of the reprieved.” He (Satan) said, “By Your misguidance of me, I will lie in ambush for them on Your straight path. Then I will come at them, from in front of them and behind them, from their right and from their left. You will not find most of them thankful.” He (Allah) said, “Get out of it, reviled and driven out. As for those of them who follow you, I will fill up Hell with every one of you.) (Al-A`raf 7:11-18)
((Allah said): “I will fill up Hell with you and every one of them who follows you.”) (Saad 38:85)
(He (Satan) said, “My Lord, because You misled me, I will make things on the earth seem good to them and I will mislead them all, every one of them, except Your servants among them who are sincere.) (Al-Hijr 15:39-40)
(He has no authority over those who believe and put their trust in their Lord. He only has authority over those who take him as a friend and associate others with Allah.) (An-Nahl 16:99-100)
Mankind! Eat what is good and lawful on the earth. And do not follow in the footsteps of Satan. He truly is an outright enemy to you. He only commands you to do evil and indecent acts and to say about Allah what you do not know.) (Al-Baqarah 2:168-169)
(Satan threatens you with poverty and enjoins you to be niggardly, and Allah promises you forgiveness from Himself and abundance; and Allah is Ample-giving, Knowing.) (Al-Baqarah 2:268)
(If only they had humbled themselves when Our violent force came upon them! However, their hearts were hard and Satan made what they were doing seem attractive to them.) (Al-An`am 6:43)
Now, Raisin Head, all of the above begs the question, WHY IS SATAN CURSING HIMSELF AND WARNING MANKIND FROM HIMSELF? Care to comment?
Peace.
Now tell me how Allah is the devil?
To Busted Divinity
The Million Dollar Question that YOU and ALI SINA fail to ask yourselves is this:
"What authority or access to knowledge do you have which allows you to dictate what God is and what God is not, how He is and how He is not?"
What authority or knowledge do you have?
What authority does allah the pimp have on me to compel me to believe in the pimp? I hasten to add that my free will and rational brain does not permit me to either respect the pimp and the rapist nor does it allow me to respect the followers of the rapist pedophile and pimp allah.Make no mistakes about it.Only the stupidest of the stupid follow the pimp and the pedophile rapist.
The stupid pimp who can not add fractions and who thought the sun sets in a large muddy pond can not be the god at all.Not even fit to be a dog this pimp allah.
What authority do pedo bastard mo had to make a god look like a pimp and a gangster?
"The stupid pimp who can not add fractions and who thought the sun sets in a large muddy pond can not be the god at all.Not even fit to be a dog this pimp allah."
About that i remembered the bastard mo mentioned that the sun rests under allah's throne and asks allah's permission to come back in the morning. Only a barbarian could come up with such a verse
We don't have any authority/access on god's knowledge or how god should behave, we don't even have the slightest evidence of your god, now I contend that you also don't have none of that type of knowledge, your delusion and confusion point is where you define allah as the only possible answer to our present reality without having a physical/concrete evidence, you are essentially a closed system.
One is free to call Hitler a cold blooded mass murderer because he acted like one, now Mohammad's mercilessness tops the chart, since Mohammad got so much blood on his hands without a shred of evidence to prove a god sanction on those killings, we take it that Mohammad was sadistic and represents no supernatural deity, we only ridicule ur god's lack of compassion as an attempt to show you how unrealistic it is for a mere human to have more positive feelings than a supposed creator whose mercy knows no bounds.
Wow, BustedDivinity, my compliments and thank you for what you just posted!
Especially about the lack of evidence-part. Darwinists, atheists do not say they have any authority on God-matters. They do not need to, do they? All they ask for is credible evidence for extraordinary claims. The claims scientists make they try to back up with evidence. They are perfectly prepared to give up any theory that is discredited and replaced by a better one. About thuth-seeking; the Muslims make the extraordinary claims, so the burden of proof is on them, we FFI-visitors just have to examine and judge what they present us with.
You are right; we only say; For arguments sake, if you are right about what you say about Muhammad and Allah, then we still see a lot of contradictions. So we don't say we have authority there, we just say it for argument's sake.
But, just as I do not agree with the Christians, but would like very much to leave them alone, because we Darwinists can do business with them, they treat us equal and fair. But FFI and its sister-sites, they inform us how supremacist a part of Muslims behave, primarily in the Islamic countries, but sometimes even in Europe-America-Canada-Australia. And the vast majority of Muslims is silent about this.
THAT is why they get this avalanche of articles about bad behavior, connection of that with Quran-Hadith, yes, vehement, highly insulting comments and reactions. But it is not directed against the whole of Islam, not against the beneficial, beautiful version of Islam that Kabirlaw and LondonSpirit paint. Only against the Supremacists who oppress minorities, women and who threathen democracy.
Sorry, I forgot to say; just as I would like very much to leave the Christians, with whom I disagree, alone, I would also like it very much to leave the Muslims alone, but for what FFI & sisters inform us about Supremacist Muslims.
Got ya Demsci.
We all will love to leave them alone, but it just doesn't work, I listened to a pastor who strongly favors relying on god to cure diseases, if not for the separation of state and religion, we would have been the products of the dark age
The moslems think and act as though all non moslems are stupider than moslems.That's where the problem starts.The second problem is all moslems are not just plain stupid, but extremely stupid and arrogant.They are unaware that they stupid just complicates the issue more.
Take the few cretins who come here and keep supporting the pimp allah and the rapist mohammad.They are innately stupid and so can not see any logic in the arguement that allah is a pimp.Pimp is one who takes money to supply whores.Allah supplies whores in heavne in return for killing in his name!
To PK
Errrr, Ok then, you got me, I'm stupid because you say I am.
To Busted Divinity
You missed my point completely.
If you are using certain actions and behaviour of the Prophet Muhammad and concepts like Jihad to refute that there is a God or that islam is untrue then you have subconsciously pre-supposed a notion of God (i.e. something that he can't be like) in order to charge Muhammad with being an impostor.
You may not like to admit it, but you or Ali Sina, or me or any Muslim, nobody has any authority or access to the Divine to define what God is and what he is not or What he is like or what he is unlike (unless of course a Messenger is sent by the Divine, who preaches to mankind, is scrutinised, tried and tested by men, is attacked, persecuted, shunned, ostracised, waged war against, conspired against and agaisnt ALL odds he manages to be successful and the message of islam reaches all four corners of the earth).
It was because of this problem that Ali Sina actually adopted the concept of the "Golden Rule" as part of his ill conceived argument which is an age old philosophy that has grevious flaws. Even then though the main concept is present in islam.
Kebirilewd a.k.a the coward,
"Messenger is sent by the Divine, who preaches to mankind, is scrutinised, tried and tested by men, is attacked, persecuted, shunned, ostracised, waged war against, conspired against and agaisnt ALL odds he manages to be successful and the message of islam reaches all four corners of the earth".
"Messenger is sent by the Divine" – selfish assumption, not proven.
"Scrutinized" – failed to prove anything, fake science.
"Tried and tested" – Never, islam's favourite solution was assassinations and wars.
"Attacked, shunned, waged war, bla..bla…" – foolish assumption, look who's started it in the first place.
"agaisnt ALL odds" – again foolish assumption. I can say the same for the jews, christians, atheists, democracy, english language, USA, real science, hindu civilizations, etc.
"the message of islam reaches all four corners of the earth" – Islamic terror too reach all corner of the earths. "All corner of the earths" is pathetic lie. Around 80 % of the population of this world is non muslim. No islam in East asian countries and south america
Pedo bastard mo never knew anything about the notion of god. Only a fool who can't see that.
It has been claimed that the Quran forbids torture/mutilation of Kafirs,then why were the Indian POWs of the recent Kargil war tortured to death and why were their bodies so mutilated that even their families had trouble recognising them.
Why did the terrorists mutilate the jewish couple in Mumbai.The transcripts of their conversations with their handlers in Pakistan reveal that they used religion as the basis for their terror.
Kabir don't forget we still have a debate to continue.
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[...] Islamic Ramadan Begins, Blood Keeps Flowing | Faithfreedom.org [...]
[...] Islamic Ramadan Begins, Blood Keeps Flowing | Faithfreedom.org [...]
[...] Islamic Ramadan Begins, Blood Keeps Flowing | Faithfreedom.org [...]
[...] Islamic Ramadan Begins, Blood Keeps Flowing | Faithfreedom.org [...]
Ramadan was celebrated by Muhammad and his thugs as a unit when he robbed meccans on the way to Mecca to do Ramadan, their day, not Muslims day.
Parents hack daughter, her lover to death http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/india/Par…
N-Guage , What else we can expect from brain dead people.
See this news :
A 80 year saudi muslim marries a 10 year child.
Religious sanction is there.
Hell with islam, what a horrible child abuse.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,543060,00.htm…
the reason muslims fanatics and terrorist increase their jihad and love to kill and be killed is, according to the master terror book{QURAAN}that the gates of islamic heaven are wide open 24/7 in the month of so called holy ramadan,visas are not required for entery to meet their 72 sharmoota,sharmoota is arabic for whores,so right now muhammad and allah are busy pimping and serving beer and peanuts,so please let them kill each other ,ask me if i care,happy ramadan..welcome to hell
Great piece, I wonder how any sincere human will not be ridicule allah/Mohammad after reading the verse: 5:33-34, how can a merciful creator with powers to do all things fail to find a better way to issue threats but resort to some form of pornographic torture, the verse says 'have their genitals cut' I don't believe in any monotheistic or other common deities, but any god worthy of his salts won't be that much of a jerk.
The problem with these demented religious folks is they consider any government that is trying to educate the people on secular values of democracy as an enemy that is waging war against them, be it logical or physical, the article says it all, the killer has been unleashed since the 7th century.
While brain dead muslims suffer from hunger and thirst during fast Mo was known to indulge in feating and and sex during fasting.
Excellent article.
Allah, the patron god of all terrorists, is pleased by the spilling of blood. Therefore why should there be a truce during any month, let alone during Ramadan – the month of killing, unless it is only to re-arm?
To Kabirlaw
Since you believe that we human have no authority to determine and judge what God is or what God is not, then, what make you accept the existence of this God? It sounds dubious, isnt it? If you pointed out the creation as the evidence, that's a very subjective approach and you already set determination and rules for this God to exist, isnt it? A little bit of circular reasoning with twisted agenda. A "Pascal Wager" argument indeed.
Of course you failed to refute Dr Ali Sina with regards of his assessment of "Prophet" Muhammad. He does not fabricate lies out of thin air, but furnished with solid proofs derived from the earliest Islamic sources.
As far as Golden Rule is concerned, can you please cite the flaws in it? It functions as a gauge that human determine what is right and what is wrong.
The greatest flaws of Islam is that it's based on a twisted morality, twisted sense of justice and double standards. Islam states that whoever has Iman will gain entry to paradise no matter how big or great his or her sins are. This implied that a person without Imaan who is moral and doing service to humanity will still go to hell while a crook thief or wife beater will go to paradise if he has a mote of Imaan in his heart, isnt it?
This is a violation of all mercy, an insult to humanity and human wisdom. No wonder you put forward the limitation of "Dont ask what God is or God is not" as a shield. Because you can detect the problem but your mind prevented you from "think out of the box" lest you committed excessive in questioning God, isnt it?
Here I provide examples about "Prophet" Muhammad disrespecting Golden Rule: "Muslims can only have 4 wifes, but he can have more than dozen wives", "He enslaved others through wars and raids but he never tolerate those who want to raid or enslave him", He maltreated Saudah, threatening to divorce her due to her unattractiveness as a result of old age, but he never allowed Ali to marry somebody else lest this will hurt his daughter, Fatima", many more.
Even if there's flaw within the application of Golden Rule itself, "Prophet" Muhammad failed by any standard due to the violations of the rule that he conveniently committed.
Humanity is but one family.
Pascal wager is nothing more than a desperate attempt for someone who can't even prove his version of truth. Since there are so many religions and gods with each other claiming to be the truth, thus pascal wager is useless argument.