Allah the moon god
My main body of work has focused on the origins of religious ideology dating back thousands of years. For the past several millennia, there have been two main religious groups predominant in much of the world: One that significantly represents sun worship, and another that revolves largely around moon worship.
As I demonstrate in my books, the main solar religions/cults thriving today are Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism, while Judaism and Islam are lunar. (Buddhism follows a largely lunar calendar, but its main character and many of its doctrines and traditions are solar.) I have brought forth thousands of pages of serious, well-documented research to support these contentions of a nature-worshipping or astrotheological origin of much religious thought in currency from antiquity to today.
Although Islam is presented as a “new, divine revelation” straight from God, in reality many of its tenets and traditions – as well as some of its main characters – possess lunar characteristics and attributes. Many millions of people are familiar with the Islamic logo of the crescent moon and star, a prominent and obvious reflection of Islam’s lunar origins and aspects. Why did Islam’s creators and shapers decide upon such a blatant symbol of moon worship and astrotheology? (The term “astrotheology” represents the reverence for and worship of the celestial bodies, including sun, moon, planets, stars and constellations found around the world for thousands of years.)
Allah as moon god
Over the centuries, there has been a huge debate within the field of Islamic studies about the nature of the Koranic god, Allah. In the Koran/Quran, Allah is depicted as speaking repeatedly and directly to Mohammed, revealing that “he” has a distinct personality, even though Muslims may claim him to be an aloof and “pure” spirit. Moreover, it is contended that this god was simply one of many in pre-Islamic Pagan Arab culture, appearing in a pantheon, for example, in the shrine at Mecca, which, it is alleged, was established by the biblical patriarch Abraham. Abraham himself can be shown to have astrotheological underpinnings, but that is another story.
In any event, it is claimed by a number of scholars that Allah was a moon god – indeed, according to some “he” was Allat, the moon goddess:
“[Allah:] Late Islamic masculinization of the Arabian Goddess, Al-Lat or Al-Ilat – the Allatu of the Babylonians–formerly worshipped at the Kaaba in Mecca. It has been shown that ‘the Allah of Islam’ was a male transformation of ‘the primitive lunar deity of Arabia.’ Her ancient symbol the crescent moon still appears on Islamic flags, even though modern Moslems no longer admit any feminine symbolism whatever connected with the wholly patriarchal Allah.”
The contention of Allah as originally a Pagan moon god has been hotly debated, with the total denial of such a notion by Muslim apologists, who redirect our attention to the fact that in the Koran Allah is depicted as the creator of the moon, rather than the lunar orb itself. Another fact will remain, however, that such a distinction is often made even within patently obvious astrotheological religions such as the sun-worshipping cults of old: In the solar religions, the god (or goddess) is both the solar disc and the power behind it.
Ditto with lunar cults, such as within the Egyptian religion, as concerns Osiris, who is lunar, representing the light in the moon, as well as the night sun, the Nile, water and so on. Yet, he is also the life and power behind all natural phenomena, just like so many other deities, including those of the Jewish and Arab tribes, i.e., Yahweh and Allah respectively. In this regard, then, Allah is little different from these other gods.
What all of this exploration reveals is that “Allah” as depicted in the Koran is not the God of the cosmos but yet another cultural artifact – one of thousands of deities from around the world – created this time through the minds of not Chinese people, not Indians or Europeans but Arabs of the 7th century, fierce desert dwellers living in primitive conditions.
Islam is a lunar cult
Among many other evidences that can be put forth as concerns Islam essentially representing a Pagan lunar cult looms largely the Muslim calendar, which is undeniably lunar. As many know, the dates of certain holidays such as Ramadan are dependent on phases of the moon, and some seem to be wholesale readaptations of previous Pagan lunar holidays. One of these pre-Islamic Pagan holidays still celebrated by Muslims may be the observance of Chaand Rat or “Moon Night,” celebrated in 2010 on the new moon of September, the 8th. The astrotheological nature of this fest, which revealed itself nicely to me while I was creating my astrotheology calendar, becomes obvious when one considers that “Chandra” is the name of the Hindu moon god. Factoring in the ubiquitous ancient nature-worshipping religion, logic would dictate that “Chaand Rat” is in reality a remnant of the Pagan moon-worshipping cult.
In the ancient world in several places, a deep schism formed over the millennia between the nomadic, desert lunar cults and settled, agricultural solar cults. The solar cult or “day sky” people established villages, towns and cities based on agricultural knowledge that included the movements of the sun. The lunar/stellar cult or “night sky” people spent much time traveling during the coolness of the night, moving by the stars and following the phases of the moon. Over the thousands of years, these two distinct cultures have clashed mightily.
Long before Islam, desert nomadic, lunar cult/night sky people would hide in the hills and wait until nightfall, thereupon descending into the solar settlements, slaughtering the men, women and children, except for the war booty of virgins, and looting, pillaging and destroying the village. The bloody chronicle of the Old Testament – reflecting the violent, genocidal Israelite conquest and destruction of Canaan – serves as evidence of this brutal and predatory development. One solar settlement after another fell to the stealthy lunar cultists led by Moses, Joshua and others. This night-sky conquering behavior was not only continued into Islamic times but also essentially codified in and validated by the Koran.
Today, the whole world represents the rich, plump and juicy settlement waiting to be invaded, plundered and destroyed by stealthy lunar cultists lurking in the hills. The sooner we all understand these ancient and ongoing dynamics, the better off the world will be.
Sources & Further Reading
The Moslem Conquest of India
The Roots of Islam
Astrotheology of the Ancients
The 2010 Astrotheology Calendar
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allah was just a simple ‘idol’, among the many idols in pre-islamic arabia. Muhammed was arrogant and cant tolerate other 360 idols and so attacked and broke the idols. He was just a lunatic and made his personal favourite idol famous. Infact, there is a doubt that all koran was actually what he told. actually koran which is now present is having ideas of muhammed, abu bakar, salman farsi, uthman. Infact uthman changed, added, deleted and finalized the final version based on his personal wish. koran and hadiths is the result of many criminals, obviously muhammed was the kingpin.
omg, did you fail to pass second grade? coz in my country, even second graders are educated enough to know better. you are saying that an arabian goddess knew everything that has happened before and that is to happen in the future, that this 'goddess' created a mathematical sequence of verse that not a single human being to this date has come even close to replication, that this 'goddess' knew the layers of ocean thousands of years ago when scientists only discovered it about 60 yrs ago, and this goddess has transformed into male version and transferred all knowledge of science, past and present, to a person (Prophet Muhammad, may peace be upon him), whose validity is that fact that he neither knew how to read or write and hence, he could not have made this up?
And whta do you mean Allah is the force behind natural phenomena liek Jewish and Arabic tribes? Are you even aware who Arabic people are, and what their religion is? And Jewish also believe in teh same God as does Christians. And both Jesus and Moses among the line of prophets sent by Allah. The difference between them and Prophet Muhammad is that previous Prophets have been sent with miracles whereas Prophet Muhammad has been the Divine Inspiration. The faith of Islam is that people worship nobody but Allah, which means no worshipin symbols, objects or human beings. Absolutely worship nobody but Allah.
The reason that Ramadan is followed according the phases of moon is because, in the past when there was no calendar, the moon phase indicated the number of days. That is common sense. LOL. lunar calendar has nothing to do with worshiping moon just as watching evening star for navigation did not have anything to do with worshiping star. Just as ancient people counted angle of shadow to tell the hours of the day because there were no clocks, so was the phases of moon tracked to count number of days. The sun was not as its shape does not change, dont know if you had the time to notice…………..
And dude, one of the major work of Prophet Muhammad was to eliminate pagan worshiping which was prevalent among middle eastern people before Islam was introduced.
If you dont have the knowledge of facts, it is better to stay quiet than to say the wrong. May Allah bless you.
I'm sorry that you did not enjoy my article. Please see this extensive article showing my contentions about Allah and Arab moon worship to be soundly based.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/01/21/was-allah-…
Anyone with such an interest and passion about the subject would likely want to read such fascinating information and to learn about their history of the ideology they follow so strongly.
If I were a passionate follower of a religion, I would want to know its true origins – not the fables I had been spoonfed since birth. Such knowledge is the only reasonable path.
If we study history , the we can see arabia was peaceful before muhammed created a mentaly sick cult. Also just see the enlightened ex-muslims like wafa sultan, nonie darwish etc. When arabs will leave islam, then they will be very peaceful and create a marvellous civilization. Till then just see news and watch the death and barbarism in islam infected areas. Islam was revived by nazism, facism and raise of immoral western policians. Oil etc is just an excuse. If all countries put just 1 % of money spend on oil to research alternate source of energy , then within 5-6 years oil will be a waste thing, the whole middle east will be like afghanistan.
Response to Acharya S/D.M. Murdock Comment ID #28889
Acharya : You’ve made a number of erroneous statements. In order to understand what I am saying about Christianity and the rest, you would actually need to study the subject. I have provided thousands of pages of fascinating FACTS about the ancient world dating back many thousands of years. Anyone curious about the planet and human creation will want to read my works for the interesting information I have dug up, at times with great difficulty.
My response: So, you assumed I didn’t study the subject before I made the comment. That seems a bit arrogant, isn’t it? I checked your website before making my comment and realized your energy of writing books was somewhat concentrated on Christianity for some weird reason and not Islam. One of your books shows the chronological order of how Christianity was supposed to be a variant species which evolved from the ancient Egyptian religion. Of course I’ve heard about the same accusations before from the Muslims and Atheists and I have checked the sources. Maybe you can give me a better link because I can’t seem to find it in the internet unless of course it comes from Muslim and Atheist links. All I can see from non-biased sources is the ancient Egyptian religion explaining the way it is in which it has nothing to do with Christianity.
Acharya : I certainly do not “distort” anything, as you would know if you had actually read any of my work in this regard, which is cited by thousands of footnotes from respectable sources.
My response: I’m sorry if I said presumptuously that you distort your writings, but like I said above, I read the history of ancient Egyptian religion but can’t seem to find where you got all your ideas and link Christianity to ancient Egyptian religion. I wish I could read all your books but I have many books in mind I wanted to buy and read and for now your books are not in my priority list. Besides I only have limited income. I’ll check the library if they have your books.
Acharya : Have you ever written a book? Do you really wonder why I haven’t written many more books? It is very difficult, grueling, time-consuming work. As concerns Islam, would you feel comfortable writing a deep expose on Islam? If so, please feel free to do so. See how it goes with your printer, for example, and distributor. And we wonder why people are speaking out about Islam?
My response: I have never written a book but I’m in the process of writing a book about Islam in which nobody has ever written before. I know it’s not comfortable talking about Islam but someone’s got to do it. We have enough cowardice in the world and that’s how Islam thrives. You should know this as an expert in religion. I don’t really know how the world is going to react to what I’m writing. Hopefully I won’t get killed in the process. I’m not a good writer though and my English is limited but I’ll try my best.
Acharya : Your “mouthpiece of satan” libel is a sign of what religious fanaticism does to the mind. It is ugly. You also make a mistake in calling me an “atheist,” as I do not use that label. You may wish to read my articles about atheism in my Freethought Examiner column.
My response: I said what I said because I know the nature of satan and how he manipulates human minds and hearts. It is in satan’s favor to lure mankind to think that he doesn’t exist and at the same time lure the Muslims that he is God. For you writing books after books against Christianity makes Muslims smile the way satan smiles in their hearts. You, for not believing his existence, can never see this. I used not to believe in the existence of satan when I was an atheist and at the same time see Islam as the same religion as Christianity. I didn’t really despise any religion at all until 9-11 happened and brought me to a realization to study Islam and to know Islam to the core since then. Islam brought me to read the Bible to a different perspective and I saw that the Bible is not just a religious book but a summary of the entire existence of mankind. When I was an atheist I used to think science is the reason why I don’t believe in God of the Bible but now I realized the Bible is the science of God and the Bible is the only way to understand the nature of God. There is no other way, no matter how much we interpret and use human logic like the Chinese and the Hindus have been doing for generations, we cannot by our own means comprehend God without the Bible. When Jesus Christ said he is the only way to God, he said it because he is the Bible. From the first page to the last, the whole Bible is about Jesus Christ.
I don’t really know what you call yourself but for me you’re just another variation of an atheist. You seem to find comfort hanging in the balance between beliefs but there is no such thing. Either you believe in the existence of God or not. Don’t be afraid. God is not going to strike you with lightning if you don’t believe he exists.
Despite this I feel empathy towards your position that so many vicious attacks coming from all directions are hurled towards you and that includes my knee-jerk reaction against you. I really am sorry for what I did.
if allah for every one for every ppl why the need kooba? and all should visit arabia… even if u follow in north pole. since this religion boasts much about science and technology…. there is something unscientific with this.
growing beard like moh make me spiritually enlightened. Thank god he didnt roam naked… imagine 1.5 /2 billion naked men around
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Acharya S/D.M. Murdock WROTE: Sorry, mate, but where in my article does it state that this symbol – which YOU claim is the “Islamic flag” – is in the Koran or hadith?
ANSWER: Wait you quote the following ''Many millions of people are familiar with the Islamic logo of the crescent moon and star, a prominent and obvious reflection of Islam’s lunar origins''
You have already made the assumption here the islam has luner origions BY SAYING ''a prominent and obvious reflection of Islam’s lunar origins''. Dont try and beat around the bush. Like i said that flag was adopted by ottoman turk who came centuries after muhammed (pbuh). Research again mate.
And you further went on to say
'' Why did Islam’s creators and shapers decide upon such a blatant symbol of moon worship and astrotheology? (The term “astrotheology” represents the reverence for and worship of the celestial bodies, including sun, moon, planets, stars and constellations found around the world for thousands of years.)''
Again you made assumption that muhammed chose the moon as a symbol ''Why did Islam’s creators and shapers decide upon such a blatant symbol of moon worship and astrotheology?''
So to me and any other person it would assume that you think that islam adopted the moon crescent and the star.
If you had been a good researcher you would know that we only use the moon for one prior reason which is to know the month of the year. That is the only reason we use it. There is no form of worship or anything else.
Your research isd just copy and paste from robert moyes comment of Allah as a moon god. PATHETIC
Acharya S/D.M. Murdock you keep mentioning that you have facts. You have no facts whatsoever. Your clearly deluded with only assumptions and nothing more than that.
You presented a link to another forum, which is
http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/01/21/was-allah-…
And yet again in this link all you present is assumptions and not facts. I will go through it with you.
Acharya S/D.M. Murdock WROTE: Through Moon, Sun, Stars, Planets, Animals, wells, trees, stones, caves, springs, and other natural objects man could make contact with the deity. At Mekka, “Allah”
ANSWER: Let me give you quran view about this:
"And from among His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Do not bow down (prostrate) to the sun nor to the moon, but only bow down (prostrate) to "Allah" Who created them, if you (really) worship Him."
[Noble Quran 41:37
Couldnt you imagine the fact that maybe as islam is a part of the abrahamic religion, abraham also used the word Allah. And maybe over time people went from monothesim to paganism but they still held the rank that allah is god, but than created images and other gods along side him.
Look at the story of moses, how he showed them so many miracles and yet the jews diverted from the true path and created other gods from their own hands and gave them its own name.
YOU WROTE: Arabs used to give their children names such as—Abdullah (slave of Allah). Clean proof was the fact that, Muhammad’s father’s name was “Abdullah”. Logical analogy here is—had there been no “Allah” in pre-Islamic Arab, there could be no Abdullah or slave of Allah in Arabia.
ANSWER: That is not a logical assumption but a stupid assumption. Allah has been used by moses, abraham and all the other prophets of the world.
Jesus says in the bible using aramic:
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Which if translated from aramic to arabic. reference : http://www.usislam.org/46hisname.htm
Now if jesus used the word eli than what did the other prophets use. So the word allah could have been passed down generations as the supremem god, but overtime association was made to god and other gods were formed, but Allah held its rank.
YOU WROTE: C) Even today, in the entire Arab World, not only Muslims but all other non-Muslim (Jews, Christians, Sabians, Bahai, an atheist etc.) Arabs says—“Ya Allah” as the expression of surprise or unhappiness/sorrow.
ANSWER: Another illogical fallacy. Stupid with no proof of where it originated.
In regards to your other comments. Yes allah does swear by the moon and other things. But why?
Allah swears on his creations to show his power and bring the attention of the people to that specific creation and its significance to people. For example, the sun. Its significance to live in this planet and the delicate balance it sustains to provide a variety of human need is partly proven but more and more to be discovered. If you see any thing God has sworn upon, take a closer look. It will stand the proof of God's existance by itself.
It is not because of what you say. You go on further to say that worshipping the moon was popular. But i already gave you a verse from the quran saying not to worship moon. So that contradicts your claim straight away.
Your research is nonsense. Your not using FACTS like you state. Your using theories, your using peoples say and nothing else.
Please clarify whether you are talking about Al-Laha or Al-Lat. Being a scholar you must know that there is a difference of chalk and cheese between the both. We are here to defame Islam and not arabic history.
Most of the muslims, have a personal version of islam. Symbolism is very important and islam's best symbol is 'sword'. The allah is protected by sword. See the flags of pure islamists and Saudi Arabia. allah, koran , islam needs 'Force' or 'sword' to protect. The moment muslims become 'peaceful' , it will fall. History proves this. islam is an unintelligent cult also. Hitler knew that, so he needed 'muslim fanaticism; and nazism brain, to succeed.
If you see history Hitler used a corrupted 'swastika' symbol which is actually a hindu/buddhism symbol meaning peace and tranquility.
Jews use a symbol 'star of david', while hindus has a name called 'Tantra' and means good omen.
Chandra and Surya are Sanskrit words for Lunar and Solar. Both has origins in Indo-iranian areas and were settled and good dynasties.
Arabs before islam were peaceful except for few bad practices, and after de-islamization it will be very peaceful. Islam is not the logical conclusion of some lunar or moon cultist groups.
Notice that in the Islamic symbol,the moon is bigger than the star.Obviously,the muslims who invented this symbol had know idea that a star is bigger than the moon.Neither did they know that the sun is a star & one of the smallest, but still much larger than the moon.
Who can blame them?
Allah failed to foresee that the universal Islamic symbol is also a major scientific blunder.
SANTIAGO: ARE you stupid. The cresecent and star is an invention by muslims which came centuries after the prophet muhammed. Islam has no symbol. During the battles a plain white and black flags were raised. No symbol on them whatsoever.
What could that possibly mean. Cant you people grasp the fact that the only reason we use the moon is to determin the day and month per calendar year. Is that so hard to grasp.
And SANTIAGO the only reason you see a star and crescent, because if you look up at the sky when there is a cresecent you sometimes see a very bright star in between. It has no scientific relation.
Hi Guys, Is there a Possibility to blow up The moon to pieces . SO that these Nuts will not know when Ramadhan will come, EID will come etc. They will fight among themselves and perish. For the rest of us , poets will have problem in writing lyrics , (Honeymoon – We will have to say just Honey) , We will not be able show our children Moon and make them eat etc. But it is OK. , May be this is one way to eradicate this cult from this world.
There is no way you have come close to proving that Jesus Christ was not a historical person. You have zero proof. Your only proof is that there are no RELIABLE witnesses. In fact, there were four testaments to the personage of Jesus Christ. More if you can the letters of the apostle. For you to claim that Jesus is a Sun God myth is laughable. You have an obvious bias which you purport to be fact. You can't invent history to your liking.
Santiago , You are Mad, You have no Islamic scientific knowledge . Sun and Moon orbits the earth. (Alla has commanded them to do) . You are not able to go near sun does't mean Sun is bigger than Moon – Moon is cold and sun is hot that is all. Please read Qurand and hadiths and get more knowledge. ALLAH the pimp Knows all and the Pedo MO is his messenger. Do not bring irrelevant scientific truths in religion , we will make sure you will be proved wrong – some how !!! and we will say you are wrong and continue to say the same thing. – Do not mess with Brain dead Mussies . It is a warning to you, IF ALLA commands me to behead you for telling the truth – I will certainly come after you to get 72+28 .
TRUE Muslim.
"Today, the whole world represents the rich, plump and juicy settlement waiting to be invaded, plundered and destroyed by stealthy lunar cultists lurking in the hills. The sooner we all understand these ancient and ongoing dynamics, the better off the world will be."
Goodness the lunar cultists are lurking in the hills waiting to rape and pillar our villages. We must do something. I know what we should do. We can round them and tie them to a stake and burn them!!
Once again from my detractors I see little more than inaccuracies and personal attacks. For example:
"You presented a link to another forum, which is
http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/01/21/was-allah-…
"And yet again in this link all you present is assumptions and not facts. I will go through it with you. "
It is not "another forum." It is an article on this website – and I did not write it, so the rest of what you are saying is false. That article is very well document, not just "assumptions and not facts." Have you actually studied this subject, or are you simply a trained Muslim apologist parrot?
"Your research isd just copy and paste from robert moyes comment of Allah as a moon god. PATHETIC"
Actually, no, it's not. I've never even read "robert moyes," whoever that is. What is "pathetic" is your constant inaccuracies and rude remarks – thank you for yet another display of obnoxious Muslim fanaticism.
To the one who claims to know the "mind of Satan," I suggest you stop playing with Satan's mind, it may rub off on you. Apparently unlike you, I don't have a personal relationship with Satan and have no interest in what could possibly be in his mind, if he even existed. Chalking something up to "Satan" simply because it disagrees with your conditioning is simply wrong, period. And such thinking belongs to the Dark Ages. But thanks for the apology for your kneejerk reaction. It's rather abrogated by your previous comments insulting my intelligence about God and your chosen cult. I was born into Christianity, I know it well, and I also know that its god is not THE god of the cosmos but a fictional account. It's high time for humanity to move beyond these infantile perceptions of reality. Cheers.
Arp,
You are trying to get 72+28. Oh no. Ok, you are brutal but, at least, you should be sympathetic to your poor assssss. Those 28 would prove to be lethal for you dear.
My darling, Acharya S/D.M. Murdock , This what I read exactly (don't remember which book), how idiotic Hindus were defeated in War with Islamic Animals.
Long before Islam, desert nomadic, lunar cult/night sky people would hide in the hills and wait until nightfall, thereupon descending into the solar settlements, slaughtering the men, women and children, except for the war booty of virgins, and looting, pillaging and destroying the village. The bloody chronicle of the Old Testament – reflecting the violent, genocidal Israelite conquest and destruction of Canaan – serves as evidence of this brutal and predatory development. One solar settlement after another fell to the stealthy lunar cultists led by Moses, Joshua and others. This night-sky conquering behavior was not only continued into Islamic times but also essentially codified in and validated by the Koran.
Allah was actually the moon goddess called Al-Lat.
Remember how MoHamMad split the moon?
MoHamMad killed the moon goddess Al-Lat when he split the moon.
Al-Lat was dead and MoHamMad "resurrected" the dead goddess and created a he Allah!!
This Allah is "All Merciful" and sending most Muslima to the Hell Fire to serve the kafir.
hindsight,
Very good, nice idea. You identified the pagan wisdom in act of Mo. Nice post man.
Acharya S/D.M. Murdock your supposed to be a researcher. You posted an article from another section of this website. OK you never wrote it but you published it on this article because you felt it was a good article and something that we should look into if we have an open mind. Your quote exactly is :
''Anyone with such an interest and passion about the subject would likely want to read such fascinating information and to learn about their history of the ideology they follow so strongly''
In reference to the other article. Hence since you did quote this you belive it to be right. Now if you researched on this subject alone you would know that it was robert morey who brought about this idea of allah the moon god and associated that moon god to allah of islam. And the author of that article even referenced his book:
4. Dr. Robert Morey, 1996 Research and Education Foundation.
But if you are aware this theory has been rebuttaled many times. And now i say to you. If you have interest and passion about this subject visit:
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/Al…
HINDSIGHT WROTE: Allah was actually the moon goddess called Al-Lat.
Remember how MoHamMad split the moon?
MoHamMad killed the moon goddess Al-Lat when he split the moon.
Al-Lat was dead and MoHamMad “resurrected” the dead goddess and created a he Allah!!
This Allah is “All Merciful” and sending most Muslima to the Hell Fire to serve the kafir.
ANSWER: You people make me laugh. Oh my god. hahahahaha. Lets hear it where did you get this piece of information from?> i am dying to know
I tell you what obama is an alien in disguise. will you belive me
londonspirit – IS it a real Islamic rebuttal , or a rebuttal with real facts?
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Few of the Reasons Allah is the Devil dressed like God (Wolf in Sheep skin)!
-Allah is supposed to be all good and forgiving (A trick to attract new converts), but in actuality he orders killing of people (No forgiveness) even for burning a book accidently which was written by humans in his name and is full of contradicting dualities.
-Allah and His messenger Muhammad, promoted killing of other humans (God’s Creations, why would God do that, if he is righteous!) to convert them to Islam. Almost most original Muslims were converted by force and deceit, their language and heritage was thrown away!
-Allah and His messenger Muhammad, promoted Slavery of Women and Children, after they killed their husbands and fathers.
-Allah’s House is in the Middle of hot desert, which is like Hell on earth, Hot, dusty and worst possible place one could have erected a house. Yet he wants all Muslims go there, suffer in heat and then kill animals for no reason to sacrifice for his pleasure!
-Allah said do not lie, but ok to lie to Non-Muslims (Contradicting Duality, only Devil does that)
-Allah said do not cheat, but Ok to cheat Non-Muslims
-Allah said if you are Muslim and convert to any religion, other Muslims shall Kill you, but if you’re a Muslim and cornered by non-Muslims, you can tell them you are not a Muslim!!
-Allah said do not break your promise, but you can break your promise with Non-Muslims or your enemies, after you have even promised under the name of Allah.
-Allah said if someone burns Quran you should kill them (why would the God be worried about burning his books, he can make Millions more copies, Only Devil will kill, because he cannot stand it)!
-Allah’s heaven has only Arabic as the official spoken language!! What happened when Arabic was not a spoken language and all of those people around the world lived and die?
-Allah’s heaven is full of false materialistic promises (lies), since heaven is not a materialistic place and its spiritual with Ghosts in it(There are NO virgin spirits/Ghosts, because virginity is not needed there, there is no Sex, since Sex is physical, ..). So people are given false promises!
-Allah Messenger father died before he was born (Why would Allah allow that)
-Allah Messenger Mother died few years after Muhammad was born (Why would Allah Allow that)
-Muhammad grew up in a place which Sex with kids, animals, exchange of wives, drinking, gambling was the norm. He must have been abused sexually as a child, since his behavior as an adult is similar to serial killers of today which have been abused during their childhood. Why would Allah allow his messenger to be in that situation, if he was not the devil???
-Allah said women have to cover themselves (why they were not born with one?), but when they go to Hajj and every man is almost naked (no underwear allowed, only a thin cloth around them), the women should wear something simple, do not cover their face and feet. Which creates a huge sexual tension for both man and women that is indescribable, if you were born as a Muslim in a Muslim country and its restrictions. You have to try it to feel it!! Just walk around with no underwear, a thin cloth around you in the streets in close proximity of unknown men and women! It is a Toga Party!
-Islam is about brotherhood and equality, but few Muslims have everything and 99 percent have nothing!! That is brotherhood and equality under Devils’ law!
-Only a fully contradicting doctrine, could be the work of the Devil himself.. I am sorry!! Look at how miserable are all the Muslim Nations!
[...] Quotes from the Koran A Call to the Muslims of the World The Massacres of the Khilafah ‘Islam is a Religion of Peace’ Allah the Moon God [...]
Acharya S/D.M. Murdock WROTE: Many millions of people are familiar with the Islamic logo of the crescent moon and star, a prominent and obvious reflection of Islam’s lunar origins and aspects. Why did Islam’s creators and shapers decide upon such a blatant symbol of moon worship and astrotheology? (The term “astrotheology” represents the reverence for and worship of the celestial bodies, including sun, moon, planets, stars and constellations found around the world for thousands of years.)
ANSWER: Mate what kind of researcher are you? where in hadith or quran does it say that the islamic flag is a cresenct with a star.
During the battles and war, the islamic army had solid black or white flags, with no representation what so ever. It wasn't until the Ottoman Empire that the crescent moon and star (star and crescent) became affiliated with the Muslim world. Legend holds that the founder of the Ottoman Empire, Osman I, had a dream in which the crescent moon stretched from one end of the earth to the other. Taking this as a good omen, he chose to keep the crescent and make it the symbol of his dynasty.
Acharya S/D.M. Murdock WROTE:In any event, it is claimed by a number of scholars that Allah was a moon god – indeed, according to some “he” was Allat, the moon goddess:
ANSWER: Show proof of one scholar saying that. you research is based Robert Morey's sayings, which has been refutted many times by better archelogical evidence:
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/Al…
"Mate what kind of researcher are you? where in hadith or quran does it say that the islamic flag is a cresenct with a star."
Sorry, mate, but where in my article does it state that this symbol – which YOU claim is the "Islamic flag" – is in the Koran or hadith? You have just kicked up a cloud of obfuscation. If you have a problem with this ISLAMIC symbol, as you yourself have called it, I suggest you take it up with the Islamists who use it. I'm sure they will enjoy your criticism.
I already provided you with a quotation from ONE scholar who said that. You will have to follow the link to my article, "The Roots of Islam" in order to find out who that is. Allah as a moon god certainly has not been debunked, as I show here. I know that Muslim apologists want us all to believe that idea, but it is not logical or supported by the facts.
It's funny how she calls Christianity a solar religion. LOL. I advice people before or after reading her book about Christianity, read a little bit about the religion of ancient Egyptians and see how much a person has to distort and omit to make historical facts fit into his/her books just like how the false prophet Muhammad had to distort and omit written scriptures to make the Judeo-Christian religion fit into his Quran.
Other than this, I agree with the pagan origin of Islam. I just wonder why all her books are concentrated in supposedly exposing the Christian faith and no single book exposing Islam? Which religion is more dangerous and needs more attention as we speak? It is very weird why atheists seem to think Christianity is more than a threat to them. I wonder what would happen to them if they live in an Islamic society and write such books exposing Islam? Can they at least thank the Christians for not decapitating their heads off for writing such provocative books? They don't say thanks because they know we don't do such things like the Muslims do. Furthermore, it's amazing how Muslims use the same supposedly facts from her books to attack Christianity. She's basically being used by satan to give Muslims more fire-power to attack the Judeo-Christian faith and more credit to their satanic religion Islam.
I'm not going to say to people not to read her books but atheists need support as well for their belief just like the Muslims. Atheists need people like her. But at least here in FFI, it's always good to see atheists unafraid to expose Islam for a change.
You've made a number of erroneous statements. In order to understand what I am saying about Christianity and the rest, you would actually need to study the subject. I have provided thousands of pages of fascinating FACTS about the ancient world dating back many thousands of years. Anyone curious about the planet and human creation will want to read my works for the interesting information I have dug up, at times with great difficulty.
I certainly do not "distort" anything, as you would know if you had actually read any of my work in this regard, which is cited by thousands of footnotes from respectable sources.
Have you ever written a book? Do you really wonder why I haven't written many more books? It is very difficult, grueling, time-consuming work.
As concerns Islam, would you feel comfortable writing a deep expose on Islam? If so, please feel free to do so. See how it goes with your printer, for example, and distributor. And we wonder why people are speaking out about Islam?
Your "mouthpiece of satan" libel is a sign of what religious fanaticism does to the mind. It is ugly.
You also make a mistake in calling me an "atheist," as I do not use that label. You may wish to read my articles about atheism in my Freethought Examiner column.
http://www.examiner.com/x-17009-Freethought-Exami…
Cheers.
"Today, the whole world represents the rich, plump and juicy settlement waiting to be invaded, plundered and destroyed by stealthy lunar cultists lurking in the hills. The sooner we all understand these ancient and ongoing dynamics, the better off the world will be".
Really? You mean a bit like Israel and the other neo-colonial powers in the West are subjugating the poorer nations, sucking them dry and spitting them out in pieces. But of course, that would be "hate speech" wouldn't it?
I like a quote I have read recently by Richard C Cook. It is appropriate here.
"The bookkeeper's trick of creating money out of thin air, charging interest for its use, then forcing it down the throats of weaker nations by threat of violence, is what has allowed the Anglo-American empire, since the founding of the Bank of England in 1696, gradually to conquer the world". Why do you not investigate this outrage? Maybe as it is not strictly applicable to Islam?
Why are you disguising your rampant racism under the very thin veil of this Islamic commentary? Please, get off your box on the Islamophobia thing. Just go back to making up stuff about Christianity. At least that sounded scholarly!
Freedomfighter 67
She is referring to the Roman sun god as Roman christianity not the Christianity of Jesus but Constantine.
Roman served the sin god Saternalia before Christianity became the state religion, much unlike what Jesus taught. Her birth was december 25 and constantine made it Jesus birth to make all Roman serve the same day as holy.
Anyone who is complaining about my omissions may take it upon himself to create a suitable occupation for himself instead of harassing others and libeling them with epithets. Of course, that would take COURAGE instead of the simple ability to smear people.
Your radical and irrational hatred has blinded you to important facts in my writing, such as:
"Long before Islam, desert nomadic, lunar cult/night sky people would hide in the hills and wait until nightfall, thereupon descending into the solar settlements, slaughtering the men, women and children, except for the war booty of virgins, and looting, pillaging and destroying the village. The bloody chronicle of the Old Testament – reflecting the violent, genocidal Israelite conquest and destruction of Canaan – serves as evidence of this brutal and predatory development. One solar settlement after another fell to the stealthy lunar cultists led by Moses, Joshua and others. This night-sky conquering behavior was not only continued into Islamic times but also essentially codified in and validated by the Koran."
Apparently, in your viewpoint it is perfectly fine to condemn the Israelites, as I have done here, but please do not say anything about Islam's hideously violent record.
I sincerely hope you enjoy the dhimmitude you are creating for yourself.
Your accusations are completely incorrect and unfounded. Though you may attempt to present a coherent and logical argument, all your claims are simple assumptions and accusations. As far as I am concerned, this is an article filled with bias and hate. Prior to making blanket statements about a topic you clearly know nothing about, I strongly suggest you check your facts.
In order to understand my FACTS, you would have to study the subject in depth, rather than relying on poorly informed kneejerk reactions. I can demonstrate every single one of my contentions with citations using primary sources and artifacts dating from ancient times.
Your argument consists of little but hyperbole and denial of facts.
And may God have mercy on you all, including the Author – Amen! Hahhahaha Hahahahaha Hahaha.
I guess you're somewhat right about your article, but I did my own research too and I find that Allah is more like Zeus-like Sky God than Moon God. Am I wrong?
LondonSpirit
"…the only reason you see a star & a crescent ,is because you look up at the sky…"
You've just proved my point.
This is exactly how the Quran & Hadith were written.It was written from (dark age) man's perspective of the universe,hence all the scientific blunders.
Oh Allah,I believe you truly are the Great Humiliator & you keep on proving this point by continuing to keep your brain dead slaves ignorant.
HindSight
I get why you write MoHamMad like this:
You're saying that Mo(prophet) was a Mad pig(Ham).