Muslim Men Preying on Western Women

Ali Sina

Ali Sina is the author of Understanding Muhammad and Muslims.

38 Responses

  1. Ra says:

    @Ali Sina, I believe by saying “Allah” you meant only the Muslim Allah of the Quran. Because there is a Muslim Allah/God and a Christian Allah/God of the Bible. The Muslim Allah/God is hate and the Christian Allah/God is love.
    Satan succeeded in confusing the world into believing that Allah is Muslim just as he succeeded in confusing the world into believing that Islam is the religion of peace. It is ingrained in the mind of many people that Allah is Muslim and that Islam is the religion of peace to the point that they would laugh at you if you say otherwise. Some people managed to understand that the word Allah simply means God but they continue to believe that Islam is the religion of peace. Other people managed to understand that Islam is not the religion of peace but they continue to believe that Allah is Muslim. So much confusion, isn’t it?
    In Indonesia they persecute the Christians because they pray to Allah and the world is baffled saying: “But why do these Christians pray to Allah?”, not understanding that Allah simply means God. It is so hard to change ingrained beliefs, isn’t it?

  2. Ali Sina says:

    @Muslim

    The fact that you think you worship supreme God does not make is so. Allah is not God. Allah is either Devil or the figment of the sick mind of a psychopath. Supreme God does not sent a mass murderer. a rapist and a pedophile as a prophet.
    Watch this testimony

  3. Former Muslim says:

    @Muslim
    ___________We Muslim believes that there is Supreme God_________

    Please tell me who are less supreme or lower God of yours? Has any existence of less supreme god or lower God? You believe in supreme God that means there must be existence of lower Gods also according belief.

    For Instance

    If I say, I believe in supreme Ali Sina, maintainer of faithfreedom website that means there are many Ali Sinas who are maintaining or running faithfreedom .org. other wise there will be no question of supreme Ali Sina / lower Ali Sina or less supreme Ali Sina.

    __________Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) introduced__________

    You did not answer how did you confirm Muhammad was a prophet. How he became prophet? What are the techniques and methods he followed to be prophet. Which is the path/ mechanism makes the one prophet? Had Muhmmad shared the same before his audience.

  4. Muslim says:

    @Former Muslim
    We Muslim believes that there is Supreme God above every one. If we worship supreme God then it is enough. We don’t have to worship any other thing.
    Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) introduced to the world this truth. He not only introduced the truth but he also defended himself and his followers from attacks. If you want to prove his defending as crime then you are wrong.
    I don’t know why you left Islam. May be you don’t believe in worshiping Supreme God.
    All Muslims follow and respect prophet Muhammad because they believe in worshiping Supreme God.

  5. Former Muslim says:

    @Muslim

    What a great irony a person like Ali Sina who loved Muslim so much and helping them to come out from darkness and evil abused badly by Muslims.

    Dear Bro, please open your mind. I understand it is greatest challenge for any human to question over his faith.

    Any person who associates ownself with God and claims exclusive right is greatest thug.

    Muhammad was thug he never shared the methods and techniques which made him prophet.

    What are methods your adopted to check the conformity of Muhammad claim of prophethood.

    if you are doctor, teacher, politician, engineer even saint then what is the mechanism you followed to be doctor, teacher, politician and engineer, saint.

  6. Ra says:

    @Muslim, You have a wrong impression, my friend, about Ali Sina. He loves Muslims more than anybody else. He wrote once that we should love Muslims like little babies doing pee on us. Would You love Christians like little babies doing pee on You?

  7. Ali Sina says:

    @Muslim,

    I showed you that the Quran is a book of hate and violence. I proved that Islam is idolatry leaving no stone unturned. I proved Islam is misogynistic from the words of Muhammad (the Quran and hadith). You said you would consult your Alim to get an answer. You got none. So clearly you are clinging to a lie. That would be no problem if Islam was not such a terrorist creed.

    As for hating Muslims, I don’t hate anyone. The road to heaven is through love not through hate. But I hate evil and Islam is the motherlode of evil.

    As for your saying that I hate the “Muslim fetus,” it just shows the absurdity of your Islamic mind. Islam is a creed. It is indoctrinated from parents to children. It is not transmitted genetically. A fetus does not have any religion.

    Yes I do have a political motive. I want to get rid of Islam and set the world freed from this curse of Devil. How did you find that out?

  8. Muslim says:

    @Ali Sina
    You are so irrationally Muslim hater that even the fetus in Muslim women womb is enemy to you. You would say that even the fetus is preying on western women. I am Muslim by myself and I don’t think the way you are projecting as Muslim thinks. You are completely wrong.

    I think you have some kind of political motive and you have lot of time and you get lot of donation to write all these irrational and inhuman (hate mongering) stories.

  9. soodi hatam says:

    MR ABAZAR VAHEDI IS AN AFGHAN MAN HE BEEN IN IRAN FOR STUDY RELIGION IN GHOM HE IS NOT IRANIAN

  10. Jers says:

    @Muslim

    heaven in the bible mention that road is made up of gold and there are precious diamonds, no more ocean or sea. other than that it’s a surprise from God. What so surprising in Quran heaven??? NOTHING!!! because everything what’s in the Quran heaven you can see also here on earth.

    Here are the following

    1) {GARDEN} Among Gardens and Springs;(Surah 44:52)Gardens of Eternity, whose doors will (ever) be open to them;Therein will they recline (at ease): Therein can they call (at pleasure) for fruit in abundance, and (delicious) drink;(Surah 38:50-51)

    2) {CARPET} They will recline on carpets, whose inner linings will be of rich brocade: the Fruit of the Gardens will be near (and easy of reach).[55: Ar-Rahman-54]

    3) {GOLD} For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow: they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade; they will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! how beautiful a couch to recline on! [18: Al-Kahf-31]

    4) {YOUTHS} And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls.(Surah 76:19)

    5) {RIVER OF WATER, WINE, ETC}
    (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)?(Surah 47:15)

    6) {GARMENTS} And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk.(Surah 76:12)

    7) {PLANTS AND MEAT} And We shall bestow on them, of fruit and meat, anything they shall desire. [52: At-Tur-22]And the flesh off owls, any that they may desire. [56: Al-Waqi’a-21]And grapes and nutritious plants, [80: Abasa-28]And olives and dates, [80: Abasa-29]In them will be Fruits, and dates and pomegranates: [55: Ar-Rahman-68]

    8) {SEX} So; and We shall join them to Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes.(Surah 44:54)Verily! The Muttaqun (pious – see V.2:2), will be in place of Security (Paradise). Among Gardens and Springs; Dressed in fine silk and (also) in thick silk, facing each other, So (it will be), and We shall marry them to Houris (female fair ones) with wide, lovely eyes. They will call therein for every kind of fruit in peace and security;-Quran 44: 51-55

  11. Ra says:

    @Ali Sina,
    Muslims have a powerful reason to cling to Islam and that is the transfer to Jews and Christians the sins of Muslims:
    “The Prophet said: ‘On the Day of Judgment many Muslims will appear carrying the burden of sins as big as mountains. Allah will forgive them for their sins, which He will place on Jews and Christians’. (Authentic Hadith)

  12. Ali Sina says:

    @Muslim
    “You are doing same mistake again in understanding Quran. These verse is released at the time of war. You should understand time and context when understanding verse.”

    Between you and I the one who has not read the Quran, the hadith and the sira and does not know the contexts of the verses is you. I explained before that the time of war is when a Muslims decides. Any peaceful day can be transformed into a day of war when a Muslim starts killing unarmed people.

    “If government of Iraq was secular. Then why saddam hussain was toppled down. Khulafa of Islam was appointed in democratic way. Islam is secularist religion. ISIS is formed due to war and lack of proper governance. Most of the muslims don’t support actions of taliban and ISIS.”

    Saddam was toppled because G.W. Bush thought he has weapons of mass destruction. He also thought that man aided the terrorists. Saddam was not toppled because of being a Muslim. He was toppled because he was perceived to be a threat to the region and America. American intelligence agencies and their policy makers are not infallible. They often commit terrible mistakes, and sometimes they are just evil, as is the case today with the present administration. Bush was ignorant of Islam and Muslim mind. He thought if he removes a dictator the Iraqis will establish a democratic government and everyone will live happily ever after. This may be true in the case of any country but not when the populace is Islamic. Muslims can only live peacefully when they are kept under the control, much like a ferocious animal in cage. If an animal cannot is kept in a cage, he is very peaceful. Let him out and that peaceful beast will start tearing apart the bystanders. Bush killed the jailor of Muslims. Saddam was a brute but the Iraqis deserved a brute like him. They proved that they don’t deserve democracy and can’t have it. So they make of Iraq what is today, hell on Earth.

    “Do you think all these Muslims are killing non Muslims ? Taliban and ISIS is formed due to lack of governance and war.”

    ISIS follows the Islam. Muslims are peaceful to the degree that their governments are not Islamic. Once the law of the land becomes 100% Islamic many of the so called peaceful Muslims become murderous beasts. Some people have violence tendencies. In civilized countries laws prevent violent people to act on their instinct. Violent people have no conscience. So we cannot rely on their self-control. Like animals, they respond to fear. Where the sharia is the law of the land, violent people find the law is on their side. They can kill, rape, murder and commit all sorts of crimes with impunity.

    During the time of Muhammad many Muslims loathed to go to war, to kill, to rape and to loot. Muhammad called them hypocrites and revealed numerous verses reviling them, saying they would go to hell for preferring to stay behind and not to fight.

    “You are lying again. Male chauvinism is global phenomenon. It is not dependent on religion.”

    Male chauvinism is universal phenomenon, but civilized cultures suppress it while Islam encourages it. What part of this is difficult for you to understand? As the result there is very little make chauvinism is left in the non-Muslim countries while it is rampant in Islamic countries. Weeds grow everywhere, but in manicured gardens they are uprooted regularly while in the forsaken fields they take over the whole land.

    “Quran clearly says that Allah will not be happy with the person divorcing his wife. Pious Muslim will not divorce his wife.”

    Muhammad did not encourage divorce but he made is damn to easy and prescribed abuse and beating. He left the hands of violent men open to beat their wives so much that the woman asks for divorce foregoing her alimony.

    “I will discuss this Hadith with Alim and get back to you. I don’t know the complete picture of what is situation when this Hadith was revealed.”

    The complete picture is given in the hadith. There is nothing more to add and if your Alim makes up a lie that does not exist in the hadith, it is a lie. If you ask him about this hadith, also ask him about these.

    Narrated ‘Ikrima:
    Rifa’a divorced his wife whereupon ‘AbdurRahman bin Az-Zubair Al-Qurazi married her. ‘Aisha said that the lady (came), wearing a green veil (and complained to her (Aisha) of her husband and showed her a green spot on her skin caused by beating). It was the habit of ladies to support each other, so when Allah’s Apostle came, ‘Aisha said, “I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!” When ‘AbdurRahman heard that his wife had gone to the Prophet, he came with his two sons from another wife. She said, “By Allah! I have done no wrong to him but he is impotent and is as useless to me as this,” holding and showing the fringe of her garment, ‘Abdur-Rahman said, “By Allah, O Allah’s Apostle! She has told a lie! I am very strong and can satisfy her but she is disobedient and wants to go back to Rifa’a.” Allah’s Apostle said, to her, “If that is your intention, then know that it is unlawful for you to remarry Rifa’a unless Abdur-Rahman has had sexual intercourse with you.” Then the Prophet saw two boys with ‘Abdur-Rahman and asked (him), “Are these your sons?” On that ‘AbdurRahman said, “Yes.” The Prophet said, “You claim what you claim (i.e.. that he is impotent)? But by Allah, these boys resemble him as a crow resembles a crow,” [Bukhari: 7: 72 :: Hadith 715 ]

    Since you are a Muslim and obviously your grasp of understanding is tenuous, let me explain the above clear hadith.
    A woman whose husband had divorced her and could not remarry without marring another man first and having sex with him, married ibn Zubair. Ibn Zubair decided to keep her. The woman who still loved her previous husband and had agreed to this humiliating situation so she could become lawful again to him was displeased. She did not like Ibn Zubair and wanted him to divorce her. But he wouldn’t. Instead he beat her until her body was as green as her garment.

    A Muslim woman cannot divorce her husband, except when he is impotent. So after being beaten savagely she went to Muhammad, and told him that her new husband, Ibn Zubairm is impotent. The fact that she was beaten was not ground for divorce. In fact as Umar narrated “The Prophet said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife. [Dawud: 11: 2142]

    So she claimed that Ibn Zubair is impotent. When Muhammad saw that Ibn Zubair had two sons, he dismissed her claim and sent her back to her abusive husband to beat her more.

    If you still think this man was a prophet of God you are sick in your head and I assure you hell is your abode. Paradise is not for stupid people who follow a monster as their prophet.

    I explained everything for you clearly. I showed you Islam is idolatry, I showed showed how the sura 47 which you found beautiful is actually very evil, and you still cling to Islam and making silly excuses for it. Bees are attracted to flower and flies to dung. You must have evil in your heart to find Islam attractive.

  13. Muslim says:

    @Ali Sina

    Not all Muslims kill non-Muslims either. But the Quran prescribes fighting. It says “Fighting is made mandatory for you, but you dislike it. You may not like something which is good for you and like something that is bad.” (2:216) The fact that not all Muslims follow the teachings of Muhammad and therefore don’t become murderous terrorists, does not mean Islam is peaceful. A true Muslim is one who beheads non-Muslim. That is what Muhammad ordered his followers to do. He said, “I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.” (8:12)

    You are doing same mistake again in understanding Quran. These verse is released at the time of war. You should understand time and context when understanding verse.

    All Muslims don’t do many things Muhammad told them to do, but that is no consolation. Christians and Yezidis lived in Iraq for centuries among Muslims. They were never free or equal but as long as they kept to themselves they were not killed, enslaved or raped. The little freedom that these minorities enjoyed in Iraq had nothing to do with Islam. It was because the governments were often secular and Muslims who tried to practice Islam killing the non-Muslims were punished. Once ISIS took over and established Islam as the law of the land, the Muslims in Iraq began beheading their Christian and Yezidi neighbors and raped their women.
    So please don’t come up with the deception that all Muslims are not terrorists. All true Muslims are terrorists. They just can’t do it. Give them the opportunity, as in the territories conquered by ISIS, Boko Haram the Taliban and suddenly the so called peaceful Muslims are transformed into murderous beasts overnight.

    If government of Iraq was secular. Then why saddam hussain was toppled down. Khulafa of Islam was appointed in democratic way. Islam is secularist religion. ISIS is formed due to war and lack of proper governance. Most of the muslims don’t support actions of taliban and ISIS.

    Following are countries with Muslim population.
    Saudi Arabia 100 %[27] (90–95% Sunni, 5–10% Shi’a[28])
    Maldives 100% (mostly Sunni)[29]
    Mauritania 100% (mostly Sunni)
    Turkey 99.8% (mostly Sunni)
    Somalia 99.8% (mostly Sunni)[30]
    Afghanistan ~99%[31] (mostly Sunni, 20% Shi’a)[32]
    Yemen 99.1% (99.9%) (65–70% Sunni, 30–35% Shi’a)
    Morocco 98.7% (mostly Sunni)
    Algeria 98.3%[33] (mostly Sunni)
    Iran 98% (mostly Shi’a)[34]
    Tunisia 98% (mostly Sunni)
    Comoros 98% (mostly Sunni)[35]
    Sudan 97%[36] (mostly Sunni)
    Libya 96.6% (99%)[37] (Sunni)
    Pakistan 96.4%[38] (85–90% Sunni, 10–15% Shi’a)[39]
    Iraq 95% (60–65% Shi’a, 33–40% Sunni)
    Djibouti 94% (mostly Sunni)[40]
    Niger 93% (mostly Sunni)[41]
    Bangladesh 89.4% (Sunni)[42]
    Egypt 89.3% (Sunni)[43]

    Do you think all these Muslims are killing non Muslims ? Taliban and ISIS is formed due to lack of governance and war.

    Islam is like HIV virus. It can remain dormant in its host until situation allows it to develop into full blown AIDS.

    Every Muslim is a potential wife beater. They often can’t do it. Sometimes they fear the non-Islamic law that may punish them. Sometimes they fear their sons or the brothers of their wife. Sometimes there is no reason to beat. And sometimes they are not violent by their nature. But when conditions are ripe, i.e. a Muslim is naturally an angry person and he does not fear any retribution from the state or from others, women are often beaten regularly with no recourse.

    You are lying again. Male chauvinism is global phenomenon. It is not dependent on religion.

    Not all Muslim men divorce their wives. Some don’t do it because there is no need for it. They like their wives. Some can’t do it easily because divorce is costly and they have to pay huge alimony. But those who live under Islamic law and can afford it, easily divorce their wives when they please. The woman’s right in Islam is not protected.

    Quran clearly says that Allah will not be happy with the person divorcing his wife. Pious Muslim will not divorce his wife.

    In fact Muhammad showed an easy way for Muslim men to divorce their wives and deny them their alimony. All they have to do is beat the poor wife so much that she begs him to divorce her and keep the alimony. Here is the hadith.

    “Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu’minin: Habibah daughter of Sahl was the wife of Thabit ibn Qays Shimmas He beat her and broke some of her part. So she came to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) after morning, and complained to him against her husband. The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) called on Thabit ibn Qays and said (to him): Take a part of her property and separate yourself from her. He asked: Is that right, Apostle of Allah? He said: Yes. He said: I have given her two gardens of mine as a dower, and they are already in her possession. The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Take them and separate yourself from her.” [Dawud :: Book 12 : Hadith 2220
    I will discuss this Hadith with Alim and get back to you. I don’t know the complete picture of what is situation when this Hadith was revealed.

  14. Ali Sina says:

    @Muslim
    Not all Muslims kill non-Muslims either. But the Quran prescribes fighting. It says “Fighting is made mandatory for you, but you dislike it. You may not like something which is good for you and like something that is bad.” (2:216) The fact that not all Muslims follow the teachings of Muhammad and therefore don’t become murderous terrorists, does not mean Islam is peaceful. A true Muslim is one who beheads non-Muslim. That is what Muhammad ordered his followers to do. He said, “I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.” (8:12)

    All Muslims don’t do many things Muhammad told them to do, but that is no consolation. Christians and Yezidis lived in Iraq for centuries among Muslims. They were never free or equal but as long as they kept to themselves they were not killed, enslaved or raped. The little freedom that these minorities enjoyed in Iraq had nothing to do with Islam. It was because the governments were often secular and Muslims who tried to practice Islam killing the non-Muslims were punished. Once ISIS took over and established Islam as the law of the land, the Muslims in Iraq began beheading their Christian and Yezidi neighbors and raped their women.

    So please don’t come up with the deception that all Muslims are not terrorists. All true Muslims are terrorists. They just can’t do it. Give them the opportunity, as in the territories conquered by ISIS, Boko Haram the Taliban and suddenly the so called peaceful Muslims are transformed into murderous beasts overnight.

    Islam is like HIV virus. It can remain dormant in its host until situation allows it to develop into full blown AIDS.

    Every Muslim is a potential wife beater. They often can’t do it. Sometimes they fear the non-Islamic law that may punish them. Sometimes they fear their sons or the brothers of their wife. Sometimes there is no reason to beat. And sometimes they are not violent by their nature. But when conditions are ripe, i.e. a Muslim is naturally an angry person and he does not fear any retribution from the state or from others, women are often beaten regularly with no recourse.

    Not all Muslim men divorce their wives. Some don’t do it because there is no need for it. They like their wives. Some can’t do it easily because divorce is costly and they have to pay huge alimony. But those who live under Islamic law and can afford it, easily divorce their wives when they please. The woman’s right in Islam is not protected.

    In fact Muhammad showed an easy way for Muslim men to divorce their wives and deny them their alimony. All they have to do is beat the poor wife so much that she begs him to divorce her and keep the alimony. Here is the hadith.

    “Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu’minin: Habibah daughter of Sahl was the wife of Thabit ibn Qays Shimmas He beat her and broke some of her part. So she came to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) after morning, and complained to him against her husband. The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) called on Thabit ibn Qays and said (to him): Take a part of her property and separate yourself from her. He asked: Is that right, Apostle of Allah? He said: Yes. He said: I have given her two gardens of mine as a dower, and they are already in her possession. The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Take them and separate yourself from her.” [Dawud :: Book 12 : Hadith 2220]

  15. Muslim says:

    @Ra
    Are you ex-muslim ?

  16. Ra says:

    @Muslim, How are You going to discus paradise when You don’t even understand two words in Arabic and when you’re supposed to read the Quran in Arabic and understand it?! You live in dhalal. You live in jahl. You are munafiq wa be’ss almasir.

  17. Muslim says:

    @Jers
    What is written about paradise in old testament ?
    What is written about paradise in Torah ?
    I am asking about it for information sake. I have never read this books by my self ?

  18. Muslim says:

    @Ra & @Jers
    I think we should discuss about paradise of all religion and then compare

    @Ra What is meant by Jazak Allahu khairan ?

  19. Ra says:

    @muslim, Jazak Allahu khairan, brother muslim. I was worried that there won’t be physical pleasure and everlasting nikah in Heaven.

  20. Jers says:

    @ Muslim
    you are mistaken about the paradise in the bible which in 3rd heaven, the explanation on the website you post is a retard answer

    I laugh how they answer with stupidity & inventing explanation … the bible interpret by itself

  21. Ra says:

    @Ali Sina, But You can’t deny the fact that Allah with His Infinite Wisdom knew how to use sex and the promise of sex, in this world and in the ever after, to lure people to flock to His religion.

  22. Muslim says:

    @Ali SIna
    If your grandfather divorced your grand mother it doesn’t mean that all Muslims are like that. Look at your father, did he divorce your mother ? No right !!!!

    My friend all Muslims are not like that. Most men divorce their wife because they are Male chauvinist. It is nothing to do with the religion.

    Why don’t you do a survey. Go to your local Mosque and collect information about martial life of 40 Muslims coming to prayer. Let us see how many people will fit in to the category of psychopath you have defined.

  23. Ali Sina says:

    @Muslim
    Muslims are psychopath to the degree that they follow Muhammad. My grandfather divorced his wife when he had a graduate son and married my grandmother, an orphan girl of 15 years of age. They had 4 children who survived. That marriage was anything but happy. My grandfather was not an insane man. I never saw him as he died when my mother was a child. But I read his poems. He was very intelligent man and a clear thinker.. In fact I believe his thinking was very similar to mine, with the exception that he believed in Muhammad. He saw nothing wrong in marrying a girl 35 years younger than himself. Why? Because his role mother did it. Good people can do very evil things when following an insane man as their prophet.

  24. Ali Sina says:

    @Ra
    Islamic paradise is never witnessed. No one ever came saying in heaven there are whores to service men. The heaven I am talking about is what everyone speak of. I did not come to it through logical reasoning. There is no way to for reason to discover such heaven. It must be seen to believed and there are countless people who saw it.

  25. Muslim says:

    @Ali Sina
    Do you want to say that all Muslims males on this earth as psychopaths ? It is insanity to attribute to every Muslim male as psychopath.
    If you don’t mind, I would like to ask you personal question.
    Do you think your father, grand father who gave you birth and were psychopaths because they were Muslims ? Did your grand father device you grand mother or father deceived your mother ? No Right !!! If they would have been deceiver or psychopaths then they would harass and kick their wife out. You would have not born if they were psychopaths.

    Open your mind…. Think Freely ;->

  26. Ra says:

    Interesting. But You must admit that the Muslim paradise is more fun with lots of houries to f..k all the time.

  27. Ali Sina says:

    @Ra,

    I just read a very interesting NDE story. You should read it.

    http://www.nderf.org/NDERF/NDE_Experiences/philip_s%27s_nde.htm

  28. Ali Sina says:

    No Ra, the only difference is that NDE is proven to be real experience. It is not hallucination. It is not based on belief. It happens to believers as well as unbelievers and it is observable.

    Also I don’t believe in everything the near death experiencers say. After all they are human and their experiences are limited. So they can interpret things erroneously. There is discrepancy between their reports. To really get a better understanding one has to read a lot of stories. I don’t watch them on Youtube anymore. Youtube is time consuming. Some people just ramble. I read them online from this site http://www.nderf.org/ I think anyone who reads a lot of them will become convinced. All religions and philosophies are theory. NDE goes to the source. It gives us a second hand view behind the curtain.

  29. Ra says:

    @muslim, According to the Quran, Allah (or more precisely Satan-disguised-as-Allah) is ‘the best of deceivers’. (3:54, 8:30)

  30. Ra says:

    You dismissed, and rightly so, most Bible’s stories as fairy tales. and you rejected wholesale, and rightly so, the Quran but You believe all the NDE stories, and with passion, to the point that You dismiss this world, the Earth, as a mirage?! The only explanation for that is that You spend too much time on Youtube.
    You are a peace loving man and You resemble Jeff Bridges in Starman.

  31. Ali Sina says:

    @Muslim. Wahedi’s conduct is psychopathic. Psychopaths exist everywhere. However, since Islam is founded by a psychopath, any Muslim who tries to emulate his prophet becomes a psychopath by shared psychosis. The insanity of Muhammad is inherited by his followers. Although this kind of behavior is an exception in the western culture, it is a norm among Muslims. Sane Muslims are exceptions to the norm.

  32. Muslim says:

    @Ali Sina
    Do you mean to say that this kind of flirting is done only by Muslim male and not from other religion ?
    Do you mean to say that thousands of male Muslims who married western women has left like Wahdi ?

  33. Ali Sina says:

    Oh yes Ra, several people said we choose our parents. In fact I even read that two souls decide to come to this world one preceding the other agreeing that the latter would come later as the child of the former. People even decide to come to this world and get married here. For example two persons get married, don’t get along and can’t resolve their problems. In the other world they realize they had to resolve their unsolved problems and request to come back again. Here they meet, remarry and try again.

    I don’t know what to believe anymore. The more you read the stranger it gets. It looks like things are very much planned while at the same time we are completely free. I wish I could wrap my head around this. The only way I can resolve it that we are the planners of our life. It is like choosing our own curriculum. It does not mean we will pass that lesson. So next time we choose the same curriculum and try it again. Some lessons have to be learned before we can move up to higher levels.

    After we evolve enough we may go to other planets where souls are more spiritually advanced. Earth is very violent. Everything is violent here. It is a dog eating dog world. Animals eat animals. Other animals eat plants, plants strangulate other plants. Some plants eat insects and humans kill for fun. In some very advanced planets none of this violence exists. Life is very different and much gentler. Living organisms get their energy directly from the sun and air, much like primitive plants on Earth, such as spirulina. Imagine planets where no one eats someone else, where there is no violence of any kind. Gosh I wish I could live in one such world. I can’t even imagine what they strive for. Life here is all about struggle for survival. What people struggle for where there is no violence, no war, no jealousy, no hate and none of the things we are so used to here. Surely it must be a very different kind of evolution. Earth can never be like that. There is only so much spiritual evolution possible in this planets.

    I don’t eat meat, but plants are also living and very much conscious. It may sound ridiculous to you but I often feel pain chopping vegetables or boiling sprouted legumes knowing I am destroying conscious beings. I wish to live in a world where i don’t have to destroy life for living. Now if you don’t tell anyone and don’t laugh, I pray for the souls of the veggies I consume and thank them. If only a year ago someone wrote such thing I would have said this guy is nuts.

  34. Ra says:

    NDE’ers say they saw themselves laying in bed, or the relatives in the waiting room, or that they saw light, or saw Jesus but nobody came back with the knowledge that we choose our parents.

  35. Ali Sina says:

    Hi Ra,

    This is what people who came back say. When the same thing is said by several people, especially those who had no such belief prior to their experience, I have to accept it as a possibility and when the number of such testimonies increases the probability of it being true also increases. It also fits into the general pattern. Many beliefs held in religious texts is not correct. I don’t know how much of the reality of the other world i know. Maybe 1% or maybe 0,00001% or maybe less. But the little that I understand makes sense and the stories are consistent. We choose our parents. This claim is repeated so many times by so many people that it would be unwise to dismiss it.

  36. Ra says:

    Dear Ali, I understand that you believe in NDE because of peoples testimonies but how did You arrive to the conclusion that we come to this world by our own free will? And that we choose our parents and our gender?!

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