JESUS THE REVOLUTIONARY VERSUS MUHAMMAD AKA ALLAH (THE ANTIGOD) OF THE MUSLIMS

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  1. Vishal Kumar says:

    @Found the truth / A.H.

    You do not know much but throwing garbage.

    Krishna was a siddha, an adept, an accomplished performer of all life’s arts. And what he says in this siddha state, in this ultimate state of mind, may seem to you to be egoistic, but it is not. The difficulty is that Krishna has to use the same linguistic “I” as you do, but there is a tremendous difference in connotation between his “I” and yours. When you say “I” it means the one imprisoned inside your body, but when Krishna says it he means that which permeates the whole cosmos. Hence he has the courage to tell Arjuna, “Give up everything else and come to my feet.” If it were the same “I” as yours – a prisoner of the body – it would be impossible for him to say a thing like this. And Arjuna would have been hurt if Krishna’s “I” were as petty as yours. Arjuna would have immediately retorted, “What are you saying? Why on earth should I surrender to you?” Arjuna would have really been hurt, but he was not.

    Whenever someone speaks to another in the language of the ego, it creates an instant reaction in the ego of the other. When you say something in the words of the “I” of the ego, the other immediately begins to speak the same language. We are skilled in knowing the undertones of each other’s words, and we react sharply.

    But Krishna’s “I” is absolutely free of all traces of egoism, and for this reason he could call upon Arjuna to make a clean surrender to him. Here, “Surrender to me” really means “Surrender to the whole. Surrender to the primordial and mysterious energy that permeates the cosmos.”

    Egolessness comes to Buddha and Mahavira too, but it comes to them after long, hard struggle and toil. But it may not come to most of their followers, because on their paths it is the very last thing to come. So the followers may come to it or they may not. But egolessness comes first with Krishna; he begins where Buddha and Mahavira end. So one who chooses to go with Krishna has to have it at the very beginning. If he fails, there is no question of his going with Krishna.

    You can walk a long way in the company of Mahavira with your “I” intact, but with Krishna you have to drop your “I” with the first step; otherwise you are not going to go with him. Your “I” can find some accommodation with Mahavira, but none with Krishna. For Krishna the first step is the last; for Mahavira and Buddha the last step is the first. And it is important for you to bear this difference in mind, because it is a big difference, and a basic difference at that.

    It is really arduous to understand Krishna. It is easy to understand that a man should run away from the world if he wants to find peace, but it is really difficult to accept that one can find peace in the thick of the marketplace. It is understandable that a man can attain to purity of mind if he breaks away from his attachments, but it is really difficult to realize that one can remain unattached and innocent in the very midst of relationships and attachments, that one can remain calm and still live at the very center of the cyclone. There is no difficulty in accepting that the flame of a candle will remain steady and still in a place well secluded from winds and storms, but how can you believe that a candle can keep burning steadily even in the midst of raging storms and hurricanes? So it is difficult even for those who are close to Krishna to understand him.

    You cannot judge from the outside whether a man is wise or foolish because sometimes their acts may be the same.

    Krishna says in the Gita to Arjuna, “Fight, but fight with absolute surrender to God. Become a vehicle.” Now, to surrender means absolute awareness, otherwise you cannot surrender. Surrender means dropping the ego, and ego IS your unconsciousness. Krishna says, “Drop the ego and then leave it to God. Then let his will be done. Then whatsoever happens is good.”

    Arjuna argues. Again and again he brings new arguments and he says, “But to kill these people – innocent people, they have not done anything wrong – just for the kingdom to kill so many people, so much violence, so much murder, so much bloodshed…how can it be right? Rather than killing these people for the kingdom I would like to renounce and go to the forest and become a monk.”

    Now, if you just look from the outside, Arjuna seems to be more religious than Krishna. Arjuna seems to be more a Gandhian than Krishna. Krishna seems to be very dangerous. He is saying, “Drop all this nonsense of being a monk and escaping to the Himalayan caves. That is not for you. You leave everything to God. You don’t decide, you drop this deciding. You simply relax, be in a let-go, and let him descend in you and let him flow through you. Then, whatsoever happens…. If he wants to become a monk through you, he will become a monk. If he wants to become a warrior through you, he will become a warrior.”

    Arjuna seems to be more moralistic, puritanistic. Krishna seems to be totally different. Krishna is a Buddha, an awakened being. He is saying, “Don’t you decide. Out of your unconsciousness, whatsoever you decide is going to be wrong, because unconsciousness is wrong.”

    And the foolish person lives in unconsciousness. Even if he tries to do good, in fact he succeeds only in doing bad.

  2. A.H. says:

    “I TOLD YOU NOT TO ADDRESS ME AGAIN MULTIPLE TIMES ALREADY.”

    There is freedom of expression. BTW, you`re repeating the same things again and again.

    “USING “HINDU” (I.E., PAGAN) SYMBOLS DID NOT MAKE CHRISTIAN NAZI GERMANY “HINDU” OR ANYWHERE NEAR “HINDU”-SYMPATHIZERS.”

    We already know, the problem is that Nazi Germany found inspiration in hindu scriptures. Once these beliefs were practized outside India, it became a disaster that shocked the whole world. It was rampant.

    ” WHICH WAS DEFEATED BY ATHEIST SOVIET UNION IN THE EASTERN FRONT.”

    The Communists had, in the beginning of the 20th century, brutally overthrown the Russian monarchy. It was a christian nation Communism tried to eliminate christianity. It killed millions of people. However, at the end of the same century the atheistic Soviet Union fell apart. So Russia could easily pick up its christian roots again. In 2018 for example president Putin was inaugurated followed by a post-ceremony event, namely a prayer service. President Putin went to the Cathedral of the Annunciation, at the entrance to which Patriarch Kirill was waiting for him. They went inside together for worship. The prayer contains a request that God give entrants the president the strength and wisdom to run the country, creating it the world and a good organization.

    “AMERICA ENTERED THE WWII MUCH TOO LATE — TO SALVAGE GREAT BRITAIN AND FRANCE FROM CHRISTIAN NAZI GERMANY.”

    Great Britain was never occupied by Nazi Germany. Have ever heard of the Battle of Britain. Long before America declared war on Nazi Germany. You are distorting history.

    “AMERICA ALONE WAS NO MATCH FOR THE THIRD REICH.”
    America, Canada, Austalia and New-Zealand fought on different fronts: Western-Europe, North-Africa and the far East. Thanks to the allies, Western-Europe was never ruled bij the communists of the Soviet Union.

    “NOW, LET’S GET DOWN TO THE CURRENT BUSINESS.”

    Pissing off christians, muslims and jews, the hindus are “das Herrenvolk”
    .
    “IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO QUIT INDIA.”

    Your views on separation/segregation of people are compatible with your hindu scriptures, to keep the society pure, Where did Nazi Germany get this idea? Civilisations will come and go, the hindu civilisation is no exception.

    “GO TO PAKISTAN OR GO TO SAUDI ARABIA.”

    They will!

    “YOU HAVE BEEN SUCKING BLOOD OUT OF INDIAN “HINDUS” FOR TOO LONG.”

    India got Western knowledge and Western technology in return, meditation and yoga won`t help you progress to get rid of backwardness.

    “AND, MOST INDIAN “HINDUS” ARE STILL OBLIVIOUS ABOUT HISTORIC CHRISTIAN CRIMES ON MILLIONS OF NON-BELIEVERS.”

    So you have to tell them!

    “CONVERSION OF PAGAN TEMPLES INTO CHRISTIAN CHURCHES .”

    The Greek philosophers had already demolished the belief in pagan gods and pagan godessess. These temples became void. The christians however had problems with the Roman State religion, in which the Roman emperor had to be worshipped as god. The struggle lasted for almost four centuries.

  3. Vishal Kumar says:

    @Found the truth & Face the Truth

    Hope you boith will overcome on your ego, self. and will understand through below words

    I have heard about a Chinese emperor. He had two great painters in his court, and there was always rivalry. They were always fighting and competing, and it was almost impossible to decide who was the greater. Both were masters of their art. One day the emperor said, “Now you do one thing: you both paint on one theme so that it can be decided who is the greater. And the theme is ‘Rest’.”

    The first painter, of course, chose a very obvious subject: he painted a very silent lake, far away in the mountains, lone, still, not even a ripple on the surface. Just looking at that painting you would feel sleepy. The other painter tried something absolutely opposite: he painted a thundering waterfall.for miles the white foam of it.and just near the waterfall a very fragile, delicate birch tree, the branches bowing down, touching the foam, and on the birch the small nest of a robin, and the robin sitting on the nest, with closed eyes, almost wet. The first is a non-dynamic silence: more like death, less like life. The opposite doesn’t exist in it. The rest has no tension in it; the “rest” is more like absence than like presence. The second is a dynamic concept: “rest” – but not dead. It is alive, throbbing. The thunder, the waterfall, the tremendous activity, and the nest, and the robin sitting there, silent.

    Jesus is like the second painting, Buddha comes closer to the first painting. Of course it is very silent, but the opposite is missing – and without the opposite, music cannot be created. Buddha has a single note, he is not an orchestra. Jesus has opposite notes meeting, merging and creating a harmony, a symphony. Buddha is silent, without revolution. Jesus is silent, with a deep rebellion around him. This has to be remembered. Only then you will understand how to penetrate into his very heart. Why did Jesus become so significant, why did he appeal to so many people all through these centuries? – he has something of the wild in him. He is not a garden, he is a wilderness. He is raw, not refined. You touch him and you will know. You feel him and you will know. Buddha is very cultured, very refined. He has something of the court of a king. Jesus comes from a village, a carpenter’s son, uneducated, uncultured. He is like a wilderness:
    raw, but alive, rebellious. Hence, the appeal; hence he has touched millions of people’s hearts. You can understand him. He is more than you but you are in him. You cannot understand Buddha. He is more than you but you are not there. With Jesus a bridge exists.

    Now these sutras.
    And when he was come into his own country, he taught them in their synagogue, inasmuch that they were astonished, and said, “Whence hath this man this
    wisdom and these mighty works?”

    “Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not his mother called Mary? And his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?”

    “And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things? And they were offended in him.”

    Nobody was so much offended in Buddha, ever; nobody was so much offended in Lao Tzu, ever; nobody was offended, as people were offended with Jesus. Why? A Buddha is a faraway peak. If you cannot understand him, how can you be offended with him? If you cannot understand him, how can you argue with him? – he is so far away, so beyond. At the most, all you can do is to worship him. So Buddha was worshipped and Jesus crucified. Wherever Buddha moved nobody was offended in him. Either people could not understand him – but then you could not be offended – or people could understand him, but then they understood that he was the very essence of the Upanishads, the very incarnation of the Vedas. He is all essential tradition. There was no question of being offended in him

  4. Face_The_Truth says:

    THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED FOR CHRISTIAN MOTHERFUCKER FOUND_THE_TRUTH.

    VICTOR AND VICTORIA TRIMONDI ARE 2 CHRISTIAN CRIMINALS POSING AS HISTORY RESEARCHERS IN ORDER TO WHITEWASH HISTORIC CHRISTIAN CRIMES.

    THESE 2 WIDELY DISCREDITED CHRISTIAN CHARLATANS — NAMELY VICTOR AND VICTORIA TRIMONDI — ARE BEING CITED BY SCREEN-NAME CHRISTIAN MOTHERFUCKER FOUND_THE_TRUTH FOR WHITEWASHING GENOCIDE OF JEWS BY CHRISTIAN NAZI GERMANY IN 1940S.

    LINK

    http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/06/nazi-leaders-and-christianity/

  5. Face_The_Truth says:

    Nazi Leaders And Christianity
    By Mike Magee | 5 November 2003

    Germany before the war was among the most Christian nations in the world, just like the modern U.S. Two-thirds of the people were Protestant, the rest mainly Catholic, while 1½ percent were unbelievers, in a 1939 census. So, most Nazis must have been Christians like the general population, and few of them could have been atheists. The truth is that Adolf Hitler was an Austrian, and Austria, like Italy, was a predominantly Catholic country. He was himself a baptized Roman Catholic, a communicant, an altar boy, was confirmed as a “soldier of Christ”, and considered entering the priesthood. He regarded himself a Catholic, and said that Christ was his saviour. In 1941, he said to General Gerhart Engel: “I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so.”

    No top Nazi leaders had a liberal or atheistic family. Heinrich Himmler regularly attended Catholic services, but became increasingly obsessed with the “Aryans”, sending out parties to find Christian and Cathar relics like the Holy Grail and the Spear of Longinus. Even so, according to the head of the SD, Heinrich Himmler built the SS on Jesuit lines, especially their methods of psychological imprinting and conditioning. Adolf Hitler even called Heinrich Himmler “my Ignatius Loyola”. Goering, least ideological among top Nazis, sometimes endorsed and sometimes criticized both Protestant and Catholic traditions. Goebbels turned against Catholicism and toward a reformed “Aryan” faith. Adolf Hitler’s appointed ruler of Yugoslavia, A Pavelic, was a Croatian Catholic, who set about murdering Slavs, the Greek Orthodox Serbs. Catholic Pope Pius received Pavelic in private audience, thereby approving his regime, and remained silent about its nature.

    Careful Christian apologists like to argue that fascist Nazi eaders were not practising Christians. They are careful to add the word “practising” because they know full well that these men were mostly Christians without a doubt. Those immediately beneath Adolf Hitler were not devout or traditional Christians, but there is no firm evidence that any top Nazi was against religion. All the Nazi leaders were born, baptized, and raised Christian, mainly in authoritarian, pious Christian households where tolerance and democratic values were not valued. Adolf Hitler’s father was a non-believer, but his mother, whom he doted on, was a pious and devout Catholic. Other Catholic Nazis included Heinrich Himmler, Reinhard Heydrich, and Joseph Goebbels. The commandant of Auschwitz concentration camp, where Zyklon-B gas was first used to kill Jews, had strict Catholic parents. Hermann Goering had mixed Catholic-Protestant parentage, while Rudolf Hess, Martin Bormann, Albert Speer, and Adolf Eichmann had Protestant backgrounds. Martin Borman, rather lower in the early Nazi hierarchy, is the only well known Nazi who was against religion, and he was against it because he thought Naziism was more Christian than Christianity, saying in 1941: “The concepts of National Socialism and Christianity are irreconcilable… Our National Socialist ideology is far loftier than the concepts of Christianity, which in their essential points have been taken over from Jewry.”

    “Petty tyrants such as Richard Nixon, or more successful tyrants such as Adolf Hitler, have regarded themselves as exemplary Christians, an estimate their followers had no trouble accepting. Adolf Hitler’s religiosity — he was a Catholic until his death — is often glossed over, but it is critical in understanding his motivation.”

    — Anne Nicol Gaylor

    Since the Second World War, there has been a convention that the Nazis were driven either by atheism or by all sorts of sinister occult fancies. CHRISTIANS HAVE BEEN DESPERATE TO DISTANCE THEMSELVES FROM EUROPEAN FASCISM AND NAZISM. Yet “every tree is known by his own fruit,” said the Christian God (Lk 6:44), and European fascism was the fruit of Christianity. Christians were Nazis and took part in Nazi atrocities. Nazi practices pioneered by Catholics included the forced wearing of yellow markers, ghettoization, confiscation of Jewish property, and bans on inter-marriage with Christians. Martin Luther’s book, “On the Jews and Their Lies”, deploring Jews and implying they would be better exterminated, inspired many parts of Adolf Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” in which Adolf Hitler praised Martin Luther as a hero of the Germans.

    “It is impossible to publish Martin Luther’s treatise today… without noting how similar to his proposals were the actions of the National Socialist regime in Germany in the 1930’s and 1940’s.”

    — Chief U.S. translator of Martin Luther

    The myth of Nazi occultism was brought to public attention in the early 1960s through “The Dawn of Magic” by L. Pauwels and J. Bergier, though it was not the first such book. As Wolfgang von Weisl observed in 1933, occultism was popular in the early 30s, but no more popular than crazy cults are today in an age of U.S. Christian fundamentalism. The rise of spiritual fads and religious fundamentalism seem to go together as a litmus test of society’s disintegration into extremism.

    Mostly, the Nazi regime was hostile to the occult, and Hitler tried to dissociate Nazism from the occultism associated with some individual Nazi leaders, who enjoyed fads like astrology and Mesmerism. Rudolf Hess parachuted into Britain attempting to end the war in 1941. His failure was a propaganda failure for the Nazis who had to paint Rudolf Hess as a madman driven to treachery. The evidence they offered was his fancies for such as Homeopathy and astrology. They were popular fads then, just as they are for many still, but Rudolf Hess nevertheless, in his statement to the court in his trial at Nuremberg, said: “I shall some day stand before the judgement seat of the Eternal. I shall answer to Him. And, I know, he will judge me innocent.”

    It is no less than any Christian would say! And Rudolf Hess’s “treason” was then used to crack down on the occult movement. A decree of 1937 had outlawed the Masons, Theosophists, and so on, but it was not particularly implemented. After Rudolf Hess’s flight, it was! Hitler described astrologers as “riff raff”, and most Nazi leaders thought of them as superstitions that did no good for the “volk”. Police arrested occultists from spiritualists to astrologers, from faith healers to Anthroposophists, shoving them into work camps, along with Jews and communists, to make them free!

    Christians were not generally included in this purge except Christian Scientists. Richard Steigmann-Gall (The Holy Reich—Nazi Conceptions of Christianity, 1919-1945, 2003), has vigorously refuted the notion that Nazism was opposed to Christianity. Many Nazis believed their ideology was essentially Christian. Positive Christianity, as antisemitic, antiliberal, and anti-Marxist, immunized volk morality from lower influences. Earlier, Ernst Nolke (The Three Faces of Fascism, 1963) noted that, when Count Yorck von Wartenburg described fascism as including the elimination of the citizen’s “religious and moral obligations towards God”, he suited “Christian and conservative beliefs”. But Nolte thought it “hard to deny” that the churches in most European countries “encouraged fascism to a sometimes very considerable degree”. So, Wartenburg’s was another early attempt to get Christianity off the fascist hook.

    Judging from his “forgotten” library, T Ryback, (Atlantic Monthly 29:4, 2003), expressed ignorant but unwarranted surprise at Adolf Hitler’s interest in religion. Contemporaries confirm Adolf Hitler as a good Catholic Christian, as do contemporary photographs. He never left the Church, and the Church never excommunicated him, or even condemned him.

    Hitler biographer, John Toland, explained: “Still a member in good standing of the Church of Rome… he carried within him its teaching that the Jew was the killer of God… extermination could be done without a twinge of conscience… he was merely acting as the avenging hand of God.”

    LINK

    http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/06/nazi-leaders-and-christianity/

  6. A.H. says:

    “If German Christian Nazis were “Hindus” or “Hindu”-sympathizers, German Christian Nazis would have helped Indian “Hindu” revolutionaries with arms and logistics to destroy British Christian imperialists!”

    They were not “hindus” or “hindu”-sympathizers, but adopted hindu beliefs, When this beliefs were practised outside India it became a disaster that shook the world.

    “……the_Christian_MotherF**ker:”

    This is the way savages are debating. It is stone age talk.

  7. Vishal Kumar says:

    @Face_The_Truth / Found the Truth

    Can you think that a man who walks on water, a man who raises dead people back to life, a man who restores the eyes of the blind, the limbs of the crippled just by his touch, was not able even to carry the cross up the hill? Three times he fell – the cross was too heavy – and three times they gave him a good beating to get up again and carry the cross. And this is the prophet, the only begotten son of God!

    With Jesus the idea of service has come into existence: serve the poor. But why? In fact, logically, he said, “Blessed are the poor, for they shall inherit the kingdom of God.” If that is true, make more people poor. The rich people cannot enter into paradise. A camel can pass through the eye of a needle, but a rich man cannot enter into the gate of paradise. If that is the case, why serve the poor? If anybody needs service, it is the rich. Steal their money, make them poor, so they can inherit the kingdom of God.

    Poverty is perfectly right, according to Jesus’ own statements. It is good to be poor – according to Jesus – it is great to be poor.

    I hate poverty! And I hate Jesus for making such statements, consoling the poor and protecting the rich. It seems that Jesus is on the side of the poor.and what help has he given to the poor? And what help has Christianity given to the poor?

    Even in Christian countries there is immense poverty. Even in the richest country, America, there are three million people on the streets; in this cold winter they are dying. What are the Christians doing for those people? And they are Christians, but nobody is interested in them. They are already Christians, they will inherit the kingdom of God.

    And America goes on sending missionaries around the world to help the poor. Strange.. They cannot help their own poor because they are already Christian. So that is the criterion: service is meant to convert poor people, because just bread and butter and clothes and medicine will purchase them.

    Mohammedans used to do the conversion in a different way, a very short cut – by the sword. Either be a Mohammedan, or the sword is going to cut off your head. Because the Koran says, “The more you convert people to Mohammedanism, the more virtuous you are – and only Mohammedans will be saved,” so they are cutting off your head in service. They were trying hard to make you a Mohammedan, because that is the only way to reach to God – and you refused. “It is better for you to die than be a Hindu, a Christian, a Jew. Be born again and we will see. If not in this life, then in another life, you will be converted to Mohammedanism.”

    Their way was short, just a simple sword hanging over your neck. And they converted many; they are the second greatest religion. Christians have the most people, and the second most are Mohammedans.

    Christianity persuades people with a little sophistication. Mohammedans were absolutely in a hurry. Christians take time: they adopt orphans, they find leftover children in Calcutta. They bring them up, they give them education – but all for the purpose of increasing the power of Christianity. The whole earth has to be turned into a Christian world; then only people will be saved.

  8. Vishal Kumar says:

    @Found the Truth

    Rabiya is far more true than Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ’s statement is on a lower plane. Yes, it is good for people who have not even started searching, it is good for the kindergarten class.

    Those who have not started searching. For them it has to be said “Seek, search, knock” and for them a guarantee has to be given otherwise they will not seek – a guarantee that you “knock and it shall be opened up to you. Ask and it shall be given unto you.”
    Rabiya’s statement is pure Zen. She says, “Look, you fool, the door is open and it has always been open. And just by your asking and just by your shouting you are closing your eyes. It is only a question of opening your eyes – the door has always been open.”

    God has always been available.
    God is unconditionally available.
    When you seek to know it, you cannot see it.
    You cannot take hold of it,
    But you cannot lose it.

    See the beauty of this statement. You cannot take hold of it. If you want to possess God you will not be able to. God cannot be possessed.

    All that is great cannot be possessed and that is one of the most foolish things man goes on doing. We want to possess. You fall in love and then you want to possess, and by possessing you destroy love. Love is of the quality of God. Jesus has said it exactly – “Love is God.” If you really want to be in love don’t try to possess it. By possessing it you kill it, you poison it. You are so small and love is so great, how can you possess it? You can be possessed by it, true, but you cannot possess it. The smaller cannot possess the bigger. It is so simple but so difficult.

    When we love somebody we want to possess the love, we want to possess the beloved, the lover, we want to become completely dominant because we are afraid somebody may take it away. But before anybody takes it away it is gone. It is not there any more. The moment you start thinking of possessing, you have killed it. Now there is a dead thing, a corpse. The life has disappeared.

    Life cannot be possessed because life is God. Existence cannot be possessed because existence is God.

    You see a beautiful flower – a rose – on a bush, and you immediately take it away from the bush. You want to possess it. You have killed it. Now you put it in your buttonhole – it is a dead flower, it is a corpse, it is no more beautiful. How can a dead thing be beautiful? It is just a memory and it is fading. It was so alive on the bush, it was so beautiful on the bush. It was so young and so happy and there was dance in it and there was a song around it. You killed all. Now you are carrying a dead flower in your buttonhole.

    And this is what we are doing in everything. Whether it is beauty, love, God, we want to possess.

  9. Vishal Kumar says:

    @Found The Truth

    I had listen from a great sage that

    Mind is constantly projecting ¯ projecting itself. Your mind is constantly interfering with reality, giving it a color, shape and form which is not its own. Your mind never allows you to see that which is; it allows you to see only that which it wants to see.

    Meditation means putting the mind aside so that it no longer interferes with reality and you can see things as they are. Why does the mind interfere at all? ¯ because the mind is created by society. It is society’s agent within you; it is not in your service, remember! It is your mind but it is not in your service; it is in a conspiracy against you. It has been conditioned by society; society has implanted many things in it. It is your mind, but it no longer functions as a servant to you; it functions as a servant to society.

    If you are a Christian then it functions as an agent of the Christian church, if you are a Hindu then your mind is Hindu, if you are a Buddhist your mind is Buddhist. And reality is neither Christian nor Hindu nor Buddhist; reality is simply as it is. And you have to put these minds aside: the communist mind, the fascist mind, the Catholic mind, the Protestant mind….

    There are three thousand religions on the earth ¯ big religions and small religions and very small sects and sects within sects ¯ three thousand in all. So there exist three thousand minds, types of mind ¯ and reality is one, and God is one, and truth is one! Meditation means: put the mind aside and watch. The first step ¯ love yourself ¯ will help you tremendously. By loving yourself you will have destroyed much that society has implanted within you. You will have become freer from the society and its conditioning.

    And the second step is: watch ¯ just watch. Buddha does not say what has to be watched ¯ everything! Walking, watch your walking. Eating, watch your eating. Taking a shower, watch the water, the cold water falling on you, the touch of the water, the coldness, the shiver that goes through your spine ¯ watch everything, today, tomorrow, always.

    A moment finally comes when you can watch even your sleep. That is the ultimate in watching. The body goes to sleep and there is still a watcher awake, silently watching the body fast asleep. That is the ultimate in watching. Right now just the opposite is the case: your body is awake but you are asleep. Then you will be awake and your body will be asleep. The body needs rest but your consciousness needs no sleep. Your consciousness is consciousness; it is alertness, that is its very nature.

  10. Face_The_Truth says:

    WERE THE ANCIENT EGYPTIANS OR MAYANS PRACTICING SANATANA DHARMA?
    WERE THE ANCIENT GREEKS, ROMAN, NORSEMEN (VIKINGS ETC) PRACTICING SANATANA DHARMA?

    Based on the available historical records, neither ancient Egyptians nor the Mayans were practicing Sanatana Dharma.

    Although ancient Greeks had interlinks and inter-marriages with the people of Indus River civilization even after the time of “Hindu” Emperor Chandragupta Maurya, historians cannot say that the Greeks were following Sanatana Dharma exactly as practiced amongst the “Hindu” people of the Indian subcontinent.

    On the contrary, there is historical evidence that pre-Islamic Pagan Arabs had many of the statues similar to that of “Hindus” in Indian subcontinent.

    LINK

    http://www.stephen-knapp.com/recent_archeological_finds_confirming_Vedic_history.htm

    Iconoclastic zeal of Christianism and Islam DID NOT leave behind any trace of Pagans and Pagan heritages as all libraries and archives were burned to ashes.

    What Christianity did to Europe, Islam did that to Indian subcontinent.

    In the long run, Islam DID NOT win in Indian subcontinent just like the way Christianity DID NOT in Europe.

    But, Islam has a significant hold in Middle East as of writing this post.

    So, YES, we can use the term “Pagans” for ancient Egyptians, Mayans, ancient Greeks, pre-Christian Romans, NORSEMEN, VIKINGS, etc., etc. who were NOT believers of Jesus F**king Jew and fictitious Christian “God the Father”.

    For further clarification, today there are people such as Sikhs who DO NOT want to categorize themselves as practitioners of Sanatana Dharma, who rather want to emulate Islam to such extent that I have seen many Punjabi Sikh women or girls marrying Muslim men and happily eating cow-meat everyday.

    Pork is a very healthy, nutritious and tasty food as “Hindu” King Rama Chandra ate pork on multiple occasions!

    However, I have seen many “Hindu” people — OTHER THAN THOSE who are strict vegetarians like my Mom and Dad were — refuse to eat pork or take alcohol by following Islamic and Jewish religiosity of abstaining pork and alcohol.

    Islam says to its followers that, earthly life is not much of a deal since the real life for faithful Muslim men begins in fictitious Islamic paradise where faithful Muslim men will only drink milk and honey and will have non-stop sexual-intercourse with attractive females of very young age.

    With such a pleasure awaiting in fictitious Islamic paradise, faithful Muslim men on earth are no doubt willing to kill all non-believers if there is a chance!

    HOW IS SANATANA DHARMA DIFFERENT FROM PAGANISM?

    There is a book by renowned scholar Dr. Koenraad Elst named

    “Who is a Hindu?
    Hindu Revivalist Views of Animism, Buddhism, Sikhism and Other Offshoots of Hinduism”.

    LINK

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koenraad_Elst

    That book answers your above question in extensive details.

    You may find that book in your local libraries.

    But, just to satisfy your query as well as to avoid wasting my time, here let me say this:

    My wife is a woman; but, not all women in my city are my wives.

    Similarly, all practitioners of Sanatana Dharma can be classified as Pagans (i.e., Indian Pagans); but, not all Pagans all over the world can be classified as the practitioners of Sanatana Dharma as exemplified by Bhagwan Shri Krishna in Shrimad Bhagavad Gita.

    WHICH VEDAS HAVE MORAL CODES?

    Please read from the following LINK.

    https://www.himalayanacademy.com/media/books/code-of-conduct_ei/web/ch42.html

    IS HINDUISM OLDER THAN JUDAISM?

    Of course.

    Judaism was created by former slaves of ancient Egyptian Pharaohs during the later part of ancient Egyptian civilization, although original inhabitants of ancient Judea in Middle East were called “Jews” who were not practitioners of the barbarism of Moses the Egyptian!

    Moses the Egyptian changed everything by bringing in fictitious “Jehovah” as one and only jealous G-d of all Jews.

    Jews who revolted were beheaded, raped, and sold as sex-slaves by Moses the Egyptian.

    Similarly, original Pagan Arabs were not like today’s Muslims in Middle East.

    Muhammad the Arabian changed everything by transforming one out of 360 Pagan Arabian deities named “Allah” into fictitious Islamic “Allah” — just like Jewish “Jehovah” — as one and only true and jealous almighty Lord of all faithful Muslims.

    Pagan Arabs who revolted were beheaded, raped, and sold as sex-slaves by Muhammad the Arabian.

  11. Vishal Kumar says:

    @To all truth seekers

    Jesus is as much man as you are man, and you are as much God as Jesus is God. God and man are not two separate entities. Man is one of the forms of God’s expression in the world. Jesus is man and God, so are you. And to understand Jesus is to understand your own situation. And to love Jesus is to love your own being. To meditate on Jesus to meditate upon your own division, the gap that has come in your being between you and your own real self. To understand Jesus is to bridge that gap.

    Jesus has no privilege over you, neither has Buddha. Nobody is privileged, otherwise God would be unjust. Everybody has the same powers. In the eyes of God we are all equal. Inequality is our creation. In God’s eyes everyone is equal to everything else.

    The Jews were very disturbed because Jesus was claiming that he was God, or God’s son. For two thousand years Christians have been defending Jesus – that he was God, that he is God.

    And they have been trying to efface all the possibilities with which it can be proved that he is man. That’s why they say he was born out of a virgin mother – that is the beginning. So they deny his manhood, so he is not just like you; he is special. Even in his birth he is special. Then they try to make his life in such a way that no indications are left that he was human. He was very human, utterly human. He was a total man. He was not a perfectionist. When it was needed to be angry he became really angry. He threw the money-changers out of the temple and he said to them ‘What are you doing here in my Father’s home, in my Father’s temple? Get out from here!’ And he was in such a rage, that alone, single-handed, he threw many people outside.

    He loved people. He had friends, he mixed with people. He ate with people, drank with people, he moved with people. He lived like an ordinary man. He had no pretensions of being anything extraordinary. And even if something extraordinary happens, he always says ‘It is your faith that has performed the miracle. It is God’s mercy on you. It is something between you and your God.’ He does not even expect gratitude. Somebody is very grateful because a miracle has happened and he has been cured, and he wants to touch his feet and thank him, and he says ‘No.’ And the man says ‘You are a great man, you are so good!’ and Jesus says ‘Nobody is good except God. You thank him. Forget about me. It is your faith that has cured you, not I. And if you have to be thankful, you have to be thankful to God. Forget about me. Don’t allow me to be between you and your God.’

    That’s exactly what Buddha is reported to have said to his disciples ‘If you meet me on the way, kill me immediately. Never allow me to stand between you and the reality. Hold my hand as far as you are not capable of walking alone and on your own. The moment you are capable of walking alone and on your own, just forget about me. Go ahead. Then don’t cling to me. Then don’t try to remain a shadow of me. If you meet me on the way, kill me immediately!’ he says. That’s what Jesus goes on saying again and again ‘Forget about me. Let your thanks go directly to God. Who am I?’

    Christians have been trying to efface all traces of his humanity; so he is born out of the virgin Mary, a virgin mother, which is absolutely absurd. Then he lives a life in which all human traits are removed. Christians only talk about his miracles, not about his ordinary life. They are afraid. Christians say that Jesus never laughed! Now this seems to be the ultimate in stupidity. Jesus… and never laughed? Then who else can laugh? But laughter seems too human, too mundane: they cannot allow Jesus to laugh.

    But Jesus’ life is such that he must have been laughing. He must have been really laughing. He must have been a man of laughter, because he says again and again ‘Rejoice! Be merry! Celebrate!’ These words cannot come from d man who has never laughed. And a man who has never laughed, why should he go to parties? Why should he drink with people? Why should he be mixing with people? And he was a mixer. Every day, every night, he was moving with people. He was not secluded. He must have been really laughing, enjoying. But Christians say he never laughed.

    They have made his picture very sad-looking, long-faced, burdened. This is not possible! This is utterly wrong, because it goes against the basic realisation of a Christ, of a Buddha. Because a man who has attained to ultimate consciousness will be completely blissful, cheerful. His life will be a song and a dance. It will have the quality of flowers and stars. It can’t be sad. Why should he be sad? It is his Father’s world, it is his God’s world. Why should he be sad? He has come home. When is he going to be happy? If you are not happy by knowing God, then there is no possibility.

    Jesus looks so sad. He has been painted sad. He has been painted as ‘the Savior’. He has been painted as if he is carrying the burdens of everybody and sins of everybody. He forgives you! He does not carry your burden, he simply forgives you.

    This is a wrong standpoint, that he takes your burden upon himself. If it is not of worth, why should he take it upon himself? And if it is so valuable, why should he take it from you? He will put some more on you. No, he is not taking anybody’s burden, he is simply helping everybody to drop it. Because it is you who are holding and clinging to it, it is valueless. When he says you are forgiven, he says ‘Forget all about your sadnesses and forget all about hell. It is your Father’s world, and he is compassion and he is love. How can love punish you? How can love throw you in hell? How can love torture you? God is not a sadist!’

    And then Christians say: resurrection. Their whole Jesus depends on three things. First: a virgin birth; second: a non-laughing, non-enjoying monotonous, sad life of miracles; and third: resurrection. These are the three things that seem to be important to them, and these are all useless because they miss the whole point. The real Jesus is missed. This is a myth that Christians have created around him, and because of this myth the real Jesus is lost.

    I would like to tell you, he is a real man, an authentic man. He lived like a man, and he Loved living like a man. He lived in all the dimensions of manhood, and yet he is God.

    Now there are people, strange people… Just the other night I was reading a Christian theologian, T.L.J. Altizer. He holds that ‘God has ceased to be God in becoming a man, Jesus. The incarnation is the death of God in his divine being. In short, God is dead, and Jesus is his son.’ Altizer says that God died because he became Jesus.

    There are people who are against Jesus being the incarnation of God. They look like enemies, because they say how can God incarnate himself in such a small body? How can the infinite come into the finite? And how can the eternal enter time? They have their logic. How can the infinite be contained in a small body? It is not possible, because God is so great and Jesus is so small; they say it is not possible.

    Now look at the other side. Now this is a Christian theologian. He says: Forget about God, God died the day Jesus was born. He became Jesus. God exists no more, now Jesus is God.

    This is another extreme. First, the enemy does not allow God to incarnate because how can he incarnate? His logic is also the same; he denies Jesus’ Godhood. To oppose this man, people like Altizer are there. They are ready to kill God to make Jesus a perfect God. Now God has disappeared into Jesus, he lives no more.

    These are not the right ways to bridge: either ‘God has to die’ or ‘Jesus has not to be a God’.

    My understanding, my vision is totally different. God descends, not only in Jesus but in everybody. This incarnation is not only for once, it is an everyday incarnation. When a child is born to you, God is incarnated. When a seed sprouts, God is incarnated. When a sun is born, God is incarnated. When a flower blooms, God blooms. It is only God, there is nothing else. Existence is synonymous with God. And God can go on incarnating in millions and millions of forms. He remains inexhaustible, that’s what the Upanishads say. They say: You can take out of the perfect as much as you want, but the perfect remains the perfect. You can take it completely out of itself, and yet the whole remains behind intact. That is the meaning of the infinite.

    If you take something from the infinite and the infinite becomes a little less, then it was not infinite in the first place. The definition of the infinite is that you can take as much as you want, but you cannot exhaust it. God goes on being born, and remains unexhausted. And there are poor thinkers like Altizer, who think God was exhausted with Jesus. That too is a very, very cunning device, so nobody can be born any more as Christ. So no more Buddha, no more Mahavir – with Jesus God is finished, the doors are closed. God is dead because Jesus is there. God has become Jesus, so God cannot remain as God. To put the whole philosophy of Altizer in short, I would like to say, he is saying: God is dead, and Jesus is his son.

    The father need not die in the son, the father can give birth to many sons.

    You will be surprised, an ordinary father, a human father… How many sons can a human father give birth to, do you know? Millions. One single couple, if allowed time, can populate the whole world. That’s how it has happened… Adam and Eve, one single couple, and they have populated the whole world. One single seed, and the whole earth will become green, just time is needed. An ordinary man will have intercourse at least four thousand times in his life – ordinary, very ordinary. Those who go more into lave, they can make more – eight thousand, ten thousand or even more. But the normal average is intercourse four thousand times. In each single intercourse, do you know how many cells are released? Millions. And each single cell can become a human being. Multiply four thousand by millions… A single human father can give birth to the whole earth. What to say about the ultimate Father?

  12. Vishal Kumar says:

    @Just Asking

    What do you mean by “Sanatan Dharma”? What are characterisctics of Sanatan Dharma ?

  13. Just Asking says:

    Can someone answer these questions about Sanatana Dharma with the best of your knowledge?
    Were the ancient Egyptians or Mayans practicing Sanatana Dharma?
    Were the ancient Greeks, Roman, Norsemen (Vikings etc) practicing Sanatana Dharma?
    How is Sanatana Dharma different from Paganism?
    Which Vedas have moral codes?
    Is Hinduism older than Judaism?

  14. Just Asking says:

    I asked you questions because you claim Hinduism and Sanatana Dharma are not the same. I am sincerely asking you questions, because you and others claim Sanatana Dharma as true religion, but you seem to have difficulty in answering questions on Sanatana Dharma.

    In a world where there is no God, and where survival of the fittest and strongest is true as in the animal world then what Dictators and Despots like Hitler, Idi Amin, Mao, Stalin do is ok and justifiable. They did evil deeds but will never have a judgement served on them personally for their evil deeds at any point in afterlife because there is no afterlife and no God.

    In in a world where there is a divine system where at some point in life or afterlife you will get judgement for the harm or evil you have done to others either directly or indirectly by instigating, inciting people to do evil and hurtful deeds and that judgement is just another rebirth where you will be the sufferer of evil deeds. This worldview seems more unjust and just a recycle of good deeds and bad deeds wherein you need a continuous supply of bad people to do evil deeds on people (because the suffering people did bad things in their earlier life). This worldview I believe is Karma based and is just not justice.

    Also, a religion like Buddhism which believes in cycles of birth is again not logical because nobody remembers whether they were a butterfly or monkey in their last birth.

    In in a world where there is God or a divine system where at some point in life or afterlife you will get judgement for the harm or evil you have done to others either directly or indirectly by instigating, inciting people to do evil and hurtful deeds. This worldview seems more just than all the others mentioned above.

    Is there any other better justice system than this where criminals who go scot free in their present life on the earth are judged and made to pay for their sins by suffering punishment in Hell.

    Were the ancient Egyptians or Mayans practicing a version of Sanatana Dharma?

  15. Just Asking says:

    What karma did personally to Adolf Hitler?
    Nothing. Hitler committed suicide and did not suffer and escaped justice and escaped the so called karma police.

    What karma did personally to Stalin?
    Nothing. He killed millions but still remained dictator and got a state funeral and thus escaped justice and escaped the so called karma police.

    What karma did personally to Mao?
    Nothing. He killed millions of his own countrymen but got a state funeral and thus escaped justice and escaped the so called karma police.

    The effect of these guys decisions and actions is not karma but bloodshed and ruining of lives of other humans and damage to other actors and states.

    If these guys are suffering in hell then we can say that justice is being served (if not on this earth but in afterlife).
    But if there is no hell and no justice then these mass murderers have lived by the naturalist dogma of survival of the fittest which essentially says the Strong shall live and the weak shall die and be ruled over.

    Sanatana Dharma is not believing in rebirth, so there is no justice in next life also.

    Buddhism which believes in rebirth is also not giving justice because nobody can remember what we did in past lifes (To test this, just think hard “ do you remember who or what were you in last life”. Well if you don’t remember than rebirthing for paying for sins for retribution or karma is not really practical)

    We are left with the only just system which works is where the creator God judges us in our afterlife and we get into some sort of penal sentences or holy rewards.

  16. Vishal Kumar says:

    @Found the truth

    World greatest master / real God J. Krishna Murti used to say that you are in sleep, the day you will awake you will have no hatered for anyone. No Ego, No self. But only love. We are all one.

    There is a beautiful story about Chuang Tzu, a great mystic of China. One morning, sitting in his bed, he looked very sad. His disciples had never seen him so sad. And never after waking up had he remained in his bed, sitting. What had happened? Was he sick?

    They gathered around and asked him, “Master, what is the matter?” He said, “The matter is really difficult, I cannot solve it; perhaps you may be of some help. I will tell you what is the matter. In the night I dreamed that I had become a butterfly, and I was moving from one flower to another flower.”

    The disciples said, “This is nothing to be sad about. In dreams we all do strange things; and this is not a bad thing, to be a butterfly – colorful, beautiful, moving from one juicy flower to another juicy flower. Why are you so worried?”

    He said, “You have not heard the whole thing. The problem is, now I am awake and I am wondering whether Chuang Tzu dreamed that he is a butterfly, or now the butterfly has gone to sleep and is dreaming she is Chuang Tzu.”

    Both are possible. If Chuang Tzu can dream that he is a butterfly, what can’t a butterfly dream that she is a Chuang Tzu?

    The disciples remained silent; there was no answer to it. Chuang Tzu was pointing towards a certain phenomenon that all religions have been teaching – that everything is a dream. The butterfly is a dream, Chuang Tzu is a dream. Then what is real? The real is far away. And in this dream, don’t get disturbed. Whether you are a camel, or a donkey, or a monkey – it doesn’t matter. What matters is that you accept it without any resentment so that you can reach one day the real world of God.

  17. Found The Truth says:

    Dear Vishal,

    Did you know that India has the highest number of godmen and godwomen in the world? (Higher than all the godmen and godmen of the entire rest of the world). All of them claim to god, incarnation mostly of hindu gods and goddesses.

    This has been going on for thousands of years.
    Inspite of so many living gods in India, it is still a third world country.
    It has the highest population/percentage of people in slavery in the world.
    It has the highest amount/percentage of lepers in the world.
    It has the highest amount of AIDS and HIV cases in the world.
    It has the highest amount of child labor in the world.
    It has the highest amount of people under poverty in the world.
    And still ranks among the corrupt countries in the world.

    Just think Why????

    When you have pedophiles /scumbags / demons as gods and godmen, godwomen you cannot progress.
    Ramana Maharishi was a homosexual abuser, evil man and a supporter of Hitler.
    https://medium.com/@jguyler143/bhagavan-sri-ramana-maharshi-homosexual-abuser-5a1b5dc8a7d9

    By God’s grace, Christianity is slowly growing in India and with that the whole country will surely progress just as China, Nepal and South Korea are progressing because Christianity is increasing rapidly there

  18. Vishal Kumar says:

    @Found The Truth

    A man came to Ramana Maharshi and said, “I have come from very far, somewhere in Germany, and I have come to learn from you.” Ramana said, “Then you go elsewhere, because here we teach unlearning. Learning is not our way. You go elsewhere.”

    He may have been a German scholar, he may have known the Vedas, Upanishads, it may have been because of his learning that he became interested in Ramana. Reading the Upanishads, the desire arises to find a man who knows. Moving through the pages of the Vedas one becomes enchanted, charmed, magnetized, hypnotized. One starts seeking a man who is a seer of whom the Vedas talk, a man of the caliber of the seers of the Upanishads – a man who knows. He may have come because of the scriptures.

    But you don’t know the man who knows. He is always against scriptures. Scriptures may lead to him, but he will tell you to drop all scriptures. The ladder through which you have come – he will say, “Throw it! Now that you have reached me there is no need for Vedas and Upanishads and Korans; you drop them! Now I am here, alive.”

    Jesus says: I am truth, no need to bring scriptures here. Ramana said, “Then you go elsewhere, because here we teach unlearning. If you are ready to unlearn, be here. If you have come to learn more, then this is not the right place. Then go somewhere else – universities exist for learning. When you come to me, come to unlearn. This is a university for unlearning, a university to create no-mind, a university where whatsoever you know will be taken away.”

    All your knowledge has to be dropped so that you become knowing, so you get a perfection, a clarity, so that your eyes are not filled with theses, or theories, with prejudices, concepts; so your eyes have a clarity, an absolute clarity and transparency, so that you can see. The truth is already there. It has always been there.

    Ramana Maharshi says: self-knowledge is an easy thing the easiest thing there is. Because it is so close! It is already there, it has always been there. Just a look, just a turning-in, and you are no more a beggar, and you have attained to emperor hood, and you are enthroned, and you are crowned, and you are a king. Just a look within…. But this is what Sufis say. Ramana is a Sufi.

    I am using the word Sufi in the widest meaning of the word. Buddha is a Sufi, Jesus is a Sufi, Ramana is a Sufi. By Sufi, I mean one who is fed up with philosophies and has started searching for the real, who is no more satisfied with synthetic food and who searches for the real nourishment.

    Ramana says: Self-knowledge is as easy a thing as any – the easiest thing there is. But just in contrast to it, listen to this sentence from Immanuel Kant, a great philosopher: Metaphysics is a call to reason to undertake anew the most difficult of all tasks, namely that of self-knowledge.

    Philosophy makes it difficult, very difficult, almost impossible – because philosophy moves farther and farther away from it. To know about the self is not to know it, to know about God is not to know God – how can the ‘about’ be it? About and about…you go in circles. It becomes impossible.

    The more you become clever, cunning, calculating, about the about, the farther and farther you are led astray. It is not a question of knowing about the self: it is simply a question of knowing it, being aware; not a question of thinking about it, but of centering in it. Sitting silently in it, and it is revealed.

    Ramana is right, he has to be right – he knows. Immanuel Kant is not right, he cannot be right – he never came across it. Although he tried hard, he worked hard – he had one of the keenest intellects ever. His acumen cannot be doubted. His logic is perfect. But as far as his insight is concerned, he is blind.

    It is like a blind man thinking about light – it is bound to be impossible. How can a blind man think about light?

  19. Vishal Kumar says:

    @Found The Truth

    Be silent.
    Close your eyes.
    Feel the body to be completely frozen.
    Go inwards with your total energy, with a great urgency,
    as if this is the last moment of your life and you have to reach
    to the center and the source of your being.
    Deeper and deeper,
    your life center is also the center of the whole universe.
    It is from your life center that you are nourished by existence.
    Just watch the silence, the peace, the immense splendor of your being.
    You are the buddha when you are watching;
    the same mind when empty becomes the buddha.
    The buddha is nothing but an empty mirror –
    no judgment, just a watchfulness, a witnessing, and you have arrived.

  20. Face_The_Truth says:

    IF WE HAVE TAMAS TENDENCIES, THEN WE ARE BORN THIS WAY, SO WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR ACTIONS?

    If you have Tamas tendencies, then you better try to overcome it in your lifetime.

    And, please DO NOT include me in your generalized form of “WE”.

    Because, you are responsible for your acts — both knowingly and unknowingly.

    If I touch fire — either knowingly or unknowingly, it really doesn’t matter — my skin may get a severe burn.

    THE BAD ACTIONS OF HARMING OTHERS ARE DESTINED OR BOUND TO HAPPEN

    The word “Destiny” is often cited after the facts are known.

    Nobody at Harvard University said, William H. Gates, Jr., would become world’s richest man exactly at the moment when he just dropped out of Harvard.

    But, after several decades when William H. Gates, Jr., actually became world’s richest man, many imbeciles on earth cheerily claimed, William H. Gates, Jr., was DESTINED to be such and such and, that’s precisely why, William H. Gates, Jr., dropped out of Harvard during his undergraduate years!

    So, saying that “Everything is predetermined” doesn’t cut the fact that, one has to go to work today in order to put food on the table and pay for his/her family.

    While driving home from work, if my car collides with another vehicle and the driver of the other vehicle dies on the impact, there will be a lot of legal, social and familial consequences awaiting me.

    There is no way of getting away from one’s own Karma!

    WHAT KARMA POLICE DID TO EVIL PEOPLE LIKE HITLER OR STALIN OR MAO? HITLER DIED (BY SUICIDE AND DID NOT SUFFER?)

    Let’s look at Führer Adolf Hitler’s Karma first.

    The historic results of Führer Adolf Hitler’s anti-Semitism:

    More than 5 million Christians dead, including half a million German Christian civilians;

    130,000 more civilians murdered by the German Christian Nazi government;

    12 million German Christians were expelled from Eastern Europe — 2 million of whom died;

    Over 1 million German Christian women were raped by allied forces;

    Christian Germany divided into two countries for half a century — and the loss of a sense of self and reputation.

    STALIN LIVED A LONG LIFE AS A DICTATOR WITHOUT SUFFERING?

    Let’s look at Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin Karma:

    Soviet Union defeated Christian Nazi Germany.

    Soviet Union became militarily a counter-weight to American-British-French global military power.

    Putting so much importance on industrialization and simultaneous neglect for agriculture led to widespread famine.

    Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin lived his days as a paranoid freak until his death from hemorrhagic stroke.

    MAO LIVED A LONG LIFE AS A DICTATOR WITHOUT SUFFERING?

    Let’s look at Chairman Mao Zedong’s Karma:

    Founder of the People’s Republic of China as a great nation on earth!

    Destroying American-British Christian monopoly in military, trade and commerce in the Far East.

    WHEN THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS KARMA POLICE, WHO (WHICH ENTITY OR WHICH GOD?) IS SEEING THAT JUSTICE IS DONE AND THE GUILTY ARE PUNISHED?

    When America murders millions in Asia and South America and Middle East, you DO NOT name a single American dictator or president for punishment.

    When Jewish Prophet Moses the Egyptian murdered millions of Pagans and looted Pagan Lands and raped Pagan females of all ages, you did not ask for punishment of Jewish Prophet Moses the Egyptian!

    So, it seems that, you prefer selective punishment of your selected figures.

    World’s Muslims worship Muhammad the Arabian while world’s many non-Muslims want to punish him for his crimes against humanity in general and his crimes against Jews in particular.

    Karma Police DOES NOT do selective justice.

    When Muslims invaded various parts of Indian subcontinent at various times, many “Hindu” kings did not exterminate all Muslims from their territories.

    That (i.e., not exterminating all Muslims from their territories) was a bad Karma of those “Hindu” Kings.

    Due to that bad Karma, all “Hindu” civilians along with those “Hindu” Kings suffered for nearly 800 years of Islamic rule in various parts of Indian subcontinent.

    WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE HITLER, STALIN AND MAO WHEN THERE IS NO HELL ACCORDING TO SANATANA DHARMA[?]

    I already explained your issue(s) in the beginning of this post.

    So, please try to understand on your own.

    WHERE IS SAMSARA WHEN THERE IS NO REBIRTH IN SANATANA DHARMA?

    “Samsara” is the material world where we are born, where we dwell and where we will shed our mortal coil one day.

    “Re-birth” could mean a person of Tamas tendencies transforming him/herself into Sattvic tendencies!

    ARE THERE DEMONS IN SANATANA DHARMA?

    When your mind is in the gutter, you are a demon par excellence!

    WHO IS SELF? HOW CAN SELF BE AN AUTHORITY?

    That you will have to learn on your own with Tapasya and Sadhana.

    I cannot explain someone how milk — as a substance — actually tastes; because, that someone will have to find that out on his/her own.

    ARE YOU ARE SAYING THAT SANATANA DHARMA IS POT-POURI OF ALL RELIGIONS EXCEPT THE RELIGIONS OF CHRISTIANS, JEWS AND MUSLIMS?

    Judaism, Christianism and Islam masquerade as religions.

    Judaism, Christianism and Islam prosper by sucking blood out of non-believers.

    After killing all non-believer Pagans, Judaism, Christianism and Islam started killing each other as barbarism begets barbarism.

    Judaism, Christianism and Islam were established by looting non-believers lands and properties.

    THE ULTIMATE JUSTICE SYSTEM IS NOT CLEAR OR ABSENT IN SANATANA DHARMA

    When a White Christian Englishman killed a Brown-skin native Indian, the White Christian Englishman was set free by a White Christian judge!

    That’s called Christian justice par excellence.

    When a Sikh terrorist blew up an Air India commercial jetliner, Canadian Christian govt. refused to extradite the Sikh terrorist to Indian authorities.

    That’s called Christian justice par excellence!

    Sure, we the non-believers are being assured by the Christians that, the Final Judgment Day is coming when fictitious Christian “God the Father” will make the final judgment for eternity.

    Sure, we the non-believers are being assured by the Muslims that, the Final Judgment Day is coming very soon when fictitious Islamic “Allah” will make the final judgment by saving all faithful Muslims and condemning all non-Muslims for the crime of not believing in only true Allah and Allah’s last messenger.

  21. Vishal Kumar says:

    Existence is impartial, is impartial. It makes no difference between the enlightened and the unenlightened. Ramakrishna Paramhansa died of cancer; Maharishi Raman died of cancer; Gautam Buddha died of food poisoning; Mahavira died of diarrhoea; Jesus Christ died on the cross, existence did not come to help him.

    Existence is absolutely impartial. And it is good that it is impartial. Otherwise existence will also be divided in classes. There will be a hierarchy, that existence protects few people, does not protect few people; that will be ugly, this is perfectly beautiful that existence remains the same for the smallest blade of grass to the biggest star in the world.

  22. Vishal Kumar says:

    I think Ramkrishna Parmahanse was greatest master ever born on this planet.

    It is said about Ramkrishna that he was much too interested in food; in fact obsessed. That is very unlikely. Even his wife, Sharada, used to feel very embarrassed; because he was such a great saint, only with one flaw – and the flaw was that he was much too interested in food. He was interested so much that while he was giving satsang to his disciples, just in the middle he will say, ”Wait, I am coming,” and he will go to look into the kitchen, what is being cooked. He will just go there and ask, ”What is being prepared today?” and then will come back and start his satsang again.

    His closest disciples became worried. They said, ”This doesn’t look good, Paramhansa. And everything is so perfectly beautiful – never has there walked such a beautiful and perfect man – but this small thing, why can’t you drop it?” He will laugh and will not say anything.

    One day his wife Sharada insisted too much. He said, ”Okay, if you insist, I will tell. My prarabdha is finished; and I am just clinging with this food. If I drop that I am gone.” The wife could not believe this. It is very difficult for wives to believe in their own husbands – even if the husband is a Paramhansa it makes no difference. The wife must have thought that he is befooling, or he is trying to rationalize. Seeing that, Ramkrishna said, ”Look, I can see that you are not trusting me, but you will know. The day I am going to die, just three days before that day, three days before my death, I will not look at the food. You will bring my thali in, and I will start looking in another direction; then you can know that only three days more am I to be here.”

    That too was not believed; they forgot about it. Then, just three days before Ramkrishna died, he was resting, Sharada brought his thali, his food: he turned over, started looking at the other side. Suddenly the wife realized, remembered. The thali fell from her hands, she started crying.

    Ramkrishna said, ”Don’t cry now. Now my work is finished; I need not cling.” And exactly after three days he died.

    He was clinging in compassion, just trying to create a bondage with one chain. The imprisonment is gone; the prison has disappeared. Out of compassion he was trying to cling, to linger a little longer on this shore, to help those who had gathered around him. But it is difficult to understand a Paramhansa. It is difficult to understand a man who has become a siddha, a Buddha, one who has emptied all his sanchita, all accumulated karmas. It is very difficult. He has no gravitation, so Ramkrishna was clinging to a rock.

    The rock has gravitation. He was clinging to a rock so that he could linger on this earth a little longer. When you have samyama, a consciousness fully alert, you can see how much karma is left. It is exactly like when a physician comes and he sees and touches the pulse of a dying man, and he says, ”Not more than two, three hours.” What is he saying? By long experience he has come to know how the pulse beats when a person is going to die. Exactly that way, a man who is alert knows how much prarabdha is left – how much pulse – and he knows when he has to go.

  23. Vishal Kumar says:

    @Found The Truth

    Your mind is filled with garbage You can only throw on others. Though I do not know you. But I can say with surity you are not Indian. Think How I knew this?

  24. A.H. says:

    “I have this friend who calls me lot of expletives and uses a lot of profanity as he hates me.”

    It`s the `genuine` way of a religionist trying to promote and to impose his religion to others.

    “This reversal is not brought about by an outer baptism, but by an inner opening!”

    (Most) christians believe that this reversal of an inner opening is brought about by an outer sign (baptism), it`s

    free, they believe it is a gift (from God), no need for meditation or yoga.

    “It is the discovery and not the description which is significant. All sects of Sanãtana Dharma

    share this discovery in common, and have their starting point in it.”

    It does not mean or prove it is true even if all sects of SD share it. In fact, the real discoveries came

    from the Western Civilisation, which pushed India to it`s limits, after it became a part of the

    British (christian) Empire. SD despite it`s long existence could not do it.

    “my readers may like to read about the teachings of following individuals:”

    Only more opinions!

  25. Face_The_Truth says:

    SO FROM YOUR STATEMENTS WE CAN SAY THAT A DEAD PERSON DOESN’T HAVE GOD AND IS NOT GOD BUT A STONE HAS GOD AND IS GOD.

    No.

    My statements do not say that.

    Please re-read my previous post(s) again and again.

    A SKELETON HAS GOD OR IS GOD BUT A DEAD PERSON DOESN’T HAVE GOD AND IS NOT GOD. HOW IS IT POSSIBLE?

    Nowhere I talked about human or animal skeletons.

    I do not know what you are smoking while typing some gibberish!

    APART FROM BUDDHA, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE SUCCEEDED IN GETTING NIRVANA? DID OSHO RECEIVE NIRVANA?

    You will have to put these questions in front of a hardcore Buddhist — if you ever meet one.

    I am not a Buddhist and I do not subscribe Buddhist “Ahimsa”.

    HOW DO I KNOW WHAT I DID IN MY PAST LIFE? WAS I AN INSECT? WAS I A HUMAN?

    You tell me!

    I really do not know what you did in your past incarnation.

    Ramana Maharshi said:

    “Reincarnation exists only so long as there is ignorance. There is really no re-incarnation at all, either now or before. Nor will there be any hereafter. This is the truth.”

    LINK
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramana_Maharshi

    IF HUMAN IN PREVIOUS LIFE WHAT BAD KARMA /ACTIONS DID I DO? THERE IS NO WAY TO REMEMBER ANYTHING SO I CAN STILL REPEAT THE SAME BAD ACTIONS?

    If you are an individual with Tamas tendencies, then you will always tend to do bad things to harm others or to harm yourself.

    And, when you do bad or harmful things to others or to yourself, you will reap your bad harvest.

    Karma police will come after you!

    WHO IS MONITORING THE JUSTICE OF THE KARMA SYSTEM?

    Karma police!

    WHERE DOES THE BUCK STOP?

    Bucks will temporarily stop when you will be liberated from Tamas tendencies.

    Bucks will finally stop when your “Self” will be liberated from the bondage of “Samsara”.

    IS THERE NO DEVIL IN SANATANA DHARMA?

    Devil is you when you do harmful things to yourself or to others!

    You attain the state of God or Goddess when you do good to others without harming yourself or without harming others.

    WHO OR WHICH GURU OR GOD IS THE ULTIMATE RELIGIOUS AUTHORITY IN SANATANA DHARMA?

    The “Self” is the ultimate authority in Sanatana Dharma.

    ‘Firstly, Sanãtana Dharma says that the aspiration for Truth (Satyam), Goodness (Sivam), Beauty (Sundaram), and Power (Aisvarya) is inherent in every soul, everywhere, and at all times, like the physical hunger of the body for food and drink.

    The satisfaction of this spiritual aspiration is neither dependent upon, nor waits for, a particular prophet or revelation, as the physical hunger has never been dependent upon, or waited for, a particular pioneer in food production or a particular textbook of food technology!

    The soul of the spiritual seeker in all ages and among all races of mankind has soared upwards till it has found its true status in its own heights.

    Secondly, Sanãtana Dharma states that spiritual aspiration cannot come to rest till it overcomes all limitations of human nature, lower as well as higher, and emerges as master of one-self.

    Simultaneously, one emerges as master of the universe also because human nature, in all its dimensions, is a segment of Universal Nature.

    One arrives at the end of one’s spiritual quest only when, Buddha-like, one can say to oneself:

    “I have known whatever is to be known; there is nothing more to be known. I have attained whatever is to be attained; there is nothing more to be attained. I have done whatever is to be done; there is nothing more to be done.”

    This is the boundless bounty which flows from becoming a Buddha. This is the mighty meaning of becoming a Mahavira.

    Thirdly, Sanãtana Dharma promises this supreme fulfilment, this acme of attainment, to every being born in a world brimming with blind forces of Nature, ignorance, evil, suffering, disease, deprivation, and death.

    The path is summed up in three spiritual steps — self-exploration, self-purification, and self-transcendence.

    One has to travel inwards and upwards, and reverse the law of human nature in the raw which is outwards and downwards.

    This reversal is not brought about by an outer baptism, but by an inner opening!

    The very first perception of the earliest Hindu seers has been — yathã piNDe tathã brahmãNDe (as in the microcosm, so in the macrocosm), that is, the way to world-discovery is through self-discovery.

    The Upanishadic prescription, ãtmãnam viddhi (know thyself) is a variation on the same theme.

    It leads to the same attainment – aham brahmo’smi (I am Brahma), tat tvam asi (thou art That), and sah tadasti (he is That).

    It is a steep spiritual ascent at the end of which the Ãtman (Self) becomes Paramãtman (Supreme Self), and the PuruSa (Person) becomes PuruSottama (Superperson).

    In the language of Theism, man becomes God.

    Here there is no place for an almighty Jehovah or Allah, sitting outside and above the Cosmos, communicating with his creatures through the medium of a privileged historical person, and coercing them through a Holy Roman Emperor or an Amir-ul-Mu’minin to conform to a closed code of moral and social conduct.

    Here there is no place for a world-wide warfare between a “True One God” who has to be wooed and worshipped, and the “False Many Gods” who have to be disowned and destroyed.

    Here there is no command for Crusade or Jihãd by a Church or an Ummah for spreading the “only true creed” at the point of the sword.

    Nor is a metaphysical speculation of any sort relevant to this spiritual seeking which has an entirely and intensely practical purpose.

    The Buddha was so indifferent to metaphysical questions that most of the time he fell silent when he was faced with them.

    The Buddha always repudiated all metaphysical curiosities with the stern rebuke:

    “How will it avail you if you accept or reject this theoretical postulate or that? The problem is practical. There is all this suffering. The suffering has a cause. And whatever has a cause can be cured. I tell you of the cause, and also of the cure.”

    Patañjali systematised this curative prescription into a scientific discipline, the system of Yoga, locating all landmarks and signposts along the path in purely psychological terms, without reference to any metaphysical proposition.

    One is, therefore, free not to give any name to the “Self” which seeks the Truth.

    One is free not to accept the ontological language of Ãtman and Paramãtman, PuruSa and PuruSottama.

    One is free to describe the spiritual experience in cryptic aphorisms or sonorous songs, or to say that it is indescribable and fall silent.

    It is the discovery and not the description which is significant.

    All sects of Sanãtana Dharma share this discovery in common, and have their starting point in it.

    It is this spiritual centre of Hindu society which has been the watershed of many ways of worship, each with its own outer forms; many religious sects, each with its own private and public rituals; many shastras, each with its own language and metaphor; and many metaphysical points of view, each with its own ontology, epistemology, axiology, and ethics.

    They are like the streams of crystal clear water which spring from the same snow-clad Himalayan heights, which become many rivers as they meander through the plains with many villages, towns and ferries on their banks, and which merge in the same Great Ocean to become one wide spread of water once more.

    This is the basis of true universalism envisaged by Sanãtana Dharma.

    One is free to take a start according to one’s own individual stage of spiritual evolution and preparation (ãdhãra), and also free to follow along the curve of one’s own cultural moorings, one’s own individual inclination and aptitude (adhikãra).

    The pace of spiritual progress can be slow or fast, evolutional or revolutional, depending upon the drive towards divinity which one feels within oneself.

    One is free to choose this form of worship or that, this round of ritual or another, this religious sect or a different one, this philosophy or some other speculation.’

    To understand the principles of Sanatana Dharma, any of my readers may like to read about the teachings of following individuals:

    RAMANA MAHARSHI

    LINK

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramana_Maharshi

    RAMAKRISHNA PARAMAHANSA

    LINK

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramakrishna

    SWAMI DAYANANDA SARASWATI

    LINK

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dayananda_Saraswati

    SADHAK RAMPRASAD

    LINK

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramprasad_Sen

    CHAITANYA MAHAPRABHU

    LINK

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaitanya_Mahaprabhu

    ADI ACHARYA SHANKARA

    LINK

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shankaracharya

  26. Just Asking says:

    So from your statements we can say that a dead person doesn’t have God and is not God but a stone has God and is God.
    A skeleton has God or is God but a dead person doesn’t have God and is not God. How is it possible?

    Apart from Buddha, how many people have succeeded in getting Nirvana? Did Osho receive Nirvana?

    How do I know what I did in my past life? Was I an insect? Was I a human?

    If Human in previous life what bad karma /actions did I do? (There is no way to remember anything so I can still repeat the same bad actions?

    Who is monitoring the justice of the karma system?

    Where does the buck stop?

    Is there no devil in Sanatana Dharma?

    Who or which guru or God is the ultimate religious authority in Sanatana Dharma?

  27. Face_The_Truth says:

    WHO IS GOD ACCORDING TO SANATANA DHARMA?

    God or Goddess is the lifeforce in every living organism from higher evolution to the lower.

    A light-bulb does not illuminate anything until electricity runs through it.

    Similarly, if God or Goddess — in the form of lifeforce — is not present in the human body, that human corpse needs to be cremated.

    God or Goddess is also manifested in non-living matter!

    IS EVERY CREATURE THAT IS LIVING ALSO GOD?

    My previous answer actually answers this question.

    God or Goddess is the highest state that most humans do not attain in a lifetime.

    WHO CREATED THE [CONCEPT OF ] GOD [OR GODDESS] OF SANATANA DHARMA?

    One very short empirical answer is HUMANS.

    God or Goddess is enshrined in every human being.

    Just like a piece of cloud can hide the super-charger Sun from our eyes, although God or Goddess is enshrined in every human being, we apparently do not see Him or Her.

    “Self” realization allows humans to uncover the Sun from everlasting pieces of clouds!

    However, according to Samkhya philosophy of Sanatana Dharma, “…the universe as consisting of two realities, puruṣa (consciousness) and prakṛti (matter). Jiva (a living being) is that state in which puruṣa is bonded to prakṛti in some form.”

    LINK

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samkhya

    HOW IS SANATANA DHARMA DIFFERENT FROM BUDDHISM OR HINDUISM?

    Let’s first deal with Crown Prince Siddhartha Gautama who became a Buddha in his later life!

    While being a super royal by birth, Siddhartha Gautama renounced his everything in search of God or Goddess in his mid-life; but, found nothing (i.e., there is NO God in the universe).

    As a meditative Buddha, Siddhartha Gautama realized that, the ultimate goal of every human is not Heaven or God (Goddess), rather Nirvana.

    However, although Buddhism has NO God or Goddess, the irony of Siddhartha Gautama’s so-called “brand-new discovery” — in fact, Sanatana Dharma knew this state of mind millennia before Siddhartha Gautama was born – is:

    The followers of Siddhartha Gautama to this day worship him as God.

    Now, I come to your “Hinduism”.

    There is NO such thing on earth to be called “Hinduism”.

    The word “Hindu” is as alien as calling Native Americans “American Indians”.

    People who used to reside on the banks of the Indus River were called “Hindus” by foreigners millennia before the birth of Judaism, Christianism and Islam.

    LINK

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Maurya_Empire%2C_c.250_BCE_2.png

    Ultimately, people of all backgrounds — excluding Muslims and Christians and Jews — residing in Indian subcontinent are categorized by a label such as “Hindus” to this day.

    If you make a garland with many different flowers, there is a common thread that holds all the flowers together.

    Similarly, Sanatana Dharma was the common thread that held all kinds of “Hindus” together.

    However, as there are flowers in any garland that may fall off and someone can pick up those fallen flowers to make another new garland, there are also a number of isolated new versions such as Sikhism, Buddhism, Jainism, etc., etc., from Sanatana Dharma.

    During my decades in North America and Western Europe, I have come across dozens of Christians and Jews who have become sick and tired of Christian and Jewish falsehoods and barbarism and sought religious guidance or comments from me.

    And, I have said to everyone of them, please THINK.

    If we stop thinking, we are dead (as humans).

    Pagans were converted into the falsehoods of Christianism and Judaism.

    And, those Pagans who resisted were mercilessly massacred by Christians and Jews.

    After all Pagans were either decimated or converted, Christians and Jews started killing each other.

    Barbarism begets barbarism.

    Later on, Christianity’s immediate sibling Islam started killing both Christians and Jews.

    IS THERE ANY JUDGEMENT FOR EVIL PEOPLE WHO DIED IN SANATANA DHARMA?

    Sanatana Dharma says, when you die your body is dead; but, your “Self” is never dead.

    “Self” is indestructible, according to Sanatana Dharma.

    There is no “Evil People”; if you do bad “Karma”, you will reap bad harvest.

    If you do good (i.e., Sattvic) “Karma”, you will reap good harvest.

    The concept of “Final Judgment Day” from Judaism, Christianism and Islam are as barbaric as Judaism, Christianism and Islam are themselves.

    To understand the principles of Sanatana Dharma, any of my readers may like to read about the teachings of following individuals:

    RAMANA MAHARSHI

    LINK

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramana_Maharshi

    RAMAKRISHNA PARAMAHANSA

    LINK

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramakrishna

    SWAMI DAYANANDA SARASWATI

    LINK

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dayananda_Saraswati

    SADHAK RAMPRASAD

    LINK

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramprasad_Sen

    CHAITANYA MAHAPRABHU

    LINK

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaitanya_Mahaprabhu

    ADI ACHARYA SHANKARA

    LINK

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shankaracharya

  28. Just Asking says:

    Who is God according to Sanatana Dharma?
    Is every creature that is living also God?
    Who created the God of Sanatana Dharma
    How is Sanatana Dharma different from Buddhism or Hinduism?
    Is there any judgement for evil people who died in Sanatana Dharma?

  29. Face_The_Truth says:

    It is time for world’s Christians to abandon Christian falsehoods of 2000 years!

    LINK

    http://www.kyroot.com/

  30. Face_The_Truth says:

    ‘A Soviet diplomat arrived in the capital of a democratic country on a commercial mission on behalf of his government.

    The mission was to continue for several months, and the hotel in which the diplomat had to stay immediately on his arrival was rather expensive by Soviet standards.

    Next day, the Soviet diplomat approached the enquiry counter of the hotel and asked the lady in attendance, “Where can I find your Housing Committee?”

    The lady could not understand his question and asked him to elaborate.

    The Soviet diplomat explained, “You see, I cannot stay for long in this expensive place. I want to apply to the appropriate authority for allotment of adequate, but cheaper accommodation.”

    The lady picked up the telephone directory, opened it at a particular page, and told the diplomat, “Sorry, we have no such committee in this city or anywhere else in this country. You have to go to an estate agent who will show you all kinds of accommodation and negotiate for the one you approve of finally. The leading estate agents are listed on this page. You may phone to any one of them for an appointment.”

    The Soviet diplomat was visibly annoyed.

    He shoved aside the telephone directory and shot his next question, “And, where can I find your Food Committee?”

    The lady informed him that there was no such committee either.

    The Soviet diplomat was now furious. He shouted, “How and where, then, do I buy the food which I will need everyday? I must have the necessary permit.”

    The lady assured him patiently that he needed no permit, and that he could go into any of the hundreds of stores to buy whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted.

    By now the Soviet diplomat was in tantrums. He taunted, “I suppose you have no Transport Committee either?”

    The lady kept her cool and said with a smile, “Why, there are all those taxies standing and cruising all over this city. You can hire any one of them at any time of the day or night and go wherever you please.”

    The Soviet diplomat gave up in utter disgust.

    There was sadness writ large on his face.

    The Soviet diplomat shook his head several times and said to himself, “Very bad! Very bad indeed! There is no system in this country. It is a chaos all around. I feel lost.”’

    ‘A follower of closed creeds like Christianity and Islam finds himself in a similar situation when faced with the spiritual freedom that is Sanãtana Dharma.

    He discovers very soon that Sanãtana Dharma does not fit into any of the mental moulds to which he is wedded, and which he seeks in other systems of thought.

    He is most likely to shake his head in utter disgust and feel lost like our diplomat from a closed social system stationed in the metropolis of a free society.

    An encounter between a monotheist and an informed follower of Sanãtana Dharma is, therefore, sure to develop along similar lines.

    The first point in which the followers of closed creeds like Christianity and Islam take great pride is the historicity of the only saviour or the last prophet who was sent by or who received the “full and final revelation” from the “one and only true God.”

    The first question which such a faithful will put to a student of Sanãtana Dharma, therefore, is bound to be as follows:

    “Who is your only saviour or your last prophet? Where was he born and brought up? Where and when and before which apostles or companions did he teach, preach, and reveal?”

    A student of Sanãtana Dharma cannot but reply as follows:

    “The very concept of a historical saviour or prophet is foreign to Sanãtana Dharma. We do not concede the monopoly of spiritual truth or moral virtue to any historical person, howsoever great or highly honoured. Everyone has to be one’s own saviour, one’s own prophet. One has to discover the spiritual truths for one’s own self, if that truth has to have any meaning for one or any validity in one’s life. A truth discovered by someone else cannot become my truth unless I rediscover it for myself. Scriptures and spiritual teachers can be my aids and guides, and may help me in my search for truth. But the truth of which the scriptures speak or which the teachers expound cannot become a truth for me unless it comes alive in my own consciousness, and starts transforming my own life. Moreover, the very historicity in which you take pride is for us the hallmark of the ephemeral and the false. We reject a historical religion as pauruSeya prasthãna, idiosyncrasies of a particular person, no matter how you hail him. That which was born in history has also died in history. You are showing devotion to what is dead and gone.”

    Next, the followers of closed creeds like Christianity and Islam are mighty proud of being as Ahl-i-Kitãb or the People of the Book.

    They are sure that the “only true revelation” from the “one and only true god” is contained in the book (al-kitãb) which was compiled by the apostles of the only saviour or the companions of the last prophet, after the saviour or the prophet had passed away and could speak no more.

    They believe that nothing can be taken out from or added to this “book” which is supposed to contain the final truth for all time to come.

    Therefore, the second question which such a faithful will put to a follower of Sanãtana Dharma is as follows:

    “Which is the book in which you believe, or your al-kitãb?”

    A student of Sanãtana Dharma is sure to reply as follows:

    “What for do we need a book? The whole spiritual truth, every shastra, is secret in the human heart. Anyone, anywhere, at any time can have access to the spiritual realm provided one seeks for it sincerely, and prepares oneself for entering it. Many seers and saints have seen it in as many ways, spoken of it and in as many languages and by means of as many metaphors. The Vedas provide one version of it, the Jainãgama another, the TripiTaka yet another, and so on down to the latest Hindu saint such as Sri Ramakrishna, or the latest Hindu sage such as Raman Maharshi. Different sects of Sanãtana Dharma have collected the sayings and songs of different sages and saints in as many books which these sects cherish as their shastras. But these shastras are not at all what you describe as the book or al-kitãb, even by distant definition. Your creed will get lost for good if your the book or al-kitãb gets lost. The book or al-kitãb cannot be recovered because the person who preached it or to whom it was revealed is dead and gone. But Sanãtana Dharma will lose nothing if all its shastras are lost. All old shastras and many more can be recovered from inside the human heart, where all of them are ultimately enshrined.”

    By now the follower of a closed creed like Christianity and Islam is most likely to feel flabbergasted by what he has been brainwashed to regard as blasphemy.

    The third question which such a faithful will put to a student of Sanãtana Dharma is as follows:

    “You have no only saviour, no last prophet. You have no al-kitãb. How, then, do you know who is your one and only true god? How do you distinguish this one and only true god from the many false gods which abound all around you?”

    At this stage the student of Sanãtana Dharma will have to smile and say,

    “According to our spiritual tradition, testified by a long line of spiritual seekers, the way to God-discovery is through Self-discovery. As one proceeds on that inner voyage one sees spiritual truths in many forms. None of these forms is false. It is only one’s seeking which can falter and lead to one’s fall from the path of spiritual progress by insisting that this or that form alone is true. Sanãtana Dharma stands squarely for a human becoming God in the process of Self-discovery-Ãtman becoming Parmãtman, PuruSa becoming PuruSottama. This is the path of world-discovery as well. The deeper one dives into oneself, the faster one’s world gets divinised. One starts seeing God in every human being, in every animal, in every plant, in every stone. One feels free to worship God in any from or in all forms at the same time. One also feels free not to worship God at all, and to dwell within oneself in spiritual self-delight. Sanãtana Dharma, therefore, has no use for a God who makes himself known to mankind through the medium of a saviour or a prophet, or through the pages of al-kitãb or the book. Such a God must always remain external to us, and external to the world in which we live. Such a God does not permit humanhood to grow into Godhood, nor allows this world to get divinised. He has reserved all divinity for himself, and has nothing to spare for his creatures except an abject servitude to his arbitrary commandments conveyed through a saviour or a prophet chosen equally arbitrarily.”

    The follower of a closed creed like Christianity and Islam now shoots the last arrow in his armoury with what he believes to be deadly effect.

    He is sure to shout, “You have failed to win the favour of the only saviour or the last prophet by not living a life according to the final commandments of the one and only true God as revealed to his only son or his last prophet in al-kitab or the book.

    How will the only saviour or the last prophet intercede for you on the Day of Judgement, and save you from God’s wrath and eternal hell-fire? You cannot say in all seriousness that you are not interested in going to an eternal heaven full of fair maidens, flowing with milk and honey, and fanned by ever-fragrant breezes.”

    A student of Sanãtana Dharma will keep his cool and reply as follows:

    “Sanãtana Dharma is not so mean and miserly in deciding human destiny. It gives many lives to every creature. One can start anew from the point where one stopped in one’s previous life. And the process does not cease till a creature has attained perfection and achieved Godhood. Everyone is a bodhisattva destined to become the Buddha in the course of spiritual seeking. The journey is from darkness and bondage to light and freedom, and not from the sensual pleasures of this world to the sensual orgies of a high heaven. On the other hand, the only hell we know is neither situated outside ourselves, nor at the end of time. The hell is within us – in our greed and gluttony, in our hatreds and infatuations, in our self-righteousness and self-seeking, in our dark drives for power and domination, in our self-love and pursuit of pleasure. The only way out of this hell is through an awakening to the divinity within us, and through dispelling the darkness of ignorance in which we live our mundane lives. The favour or disfavour of a saviour or a prophet can neither catapult us into heaven, nor drag us down into hell. A saviour or prophet is absolutely irrelevant to the realm of spiritual progress or retrogression.”

    At this point the follower of a closed creed like Christianity and Islam is bound to give up in utter disgust.

    He is bound to exclaim, “Very bad! Very bad indeed! There is no system in your bewildered beliefs. It is a free for all. What is worse, it is blasphemy against the one and only true God, against the only saviour or the last prophet sent by Him, and against the only true revelation conveyed by Him through a mighty messenger.”’

  31. Vishal Kumar says:

    @A.H.

    J. Krishnamurti said “path of truth pathless”. In spritiual realm I also believe all words are fake. They are garbage if false in wrong hand and then these words deserve to be in dustbin. They may be from Jesus, Krishna, Buddha. There may be authority in matteral world matters. But in spritual world do not try to find authority. Words of Enlightened being are just pointer to that which is indescribable and this pointer has several mouth. Its depends on seeker how does he take the pointer. No word is final authority just pointer. That is why Buddha choose slience over speaking about indescribable. We have given many name to ths indescrible like God, Existence, Brahm, Self. etc.

  32. A.H. says:

    Vishal wrote:

    “Actually I was also very much amazed to see such stupid translation……”

    But what is it. The problem with Hinduism (Islam and Protestantism) is that there is no central (living) authority to correct/explain the translations/interpretations of its scriptures, an authority who has the final word to settle the dispute.

  33. Face_The_Truth says:

    In India, Christians tell financially poor “Hindus” that those “Hindus” are financially poor because of believing in FALSE “Hindu” Gods and “Hindu” Goddesses.

    And, if those financially poor “Hindus” convert to Christianism, their dire financial situations will improve!

    However, after conversion to Christianism, most of the newly converts do not see improvement in their financial condition(s).

    Then, Christians tell those newly converts to fight for their “Rights” which are not even included in the Indian Constitution such as free food, free housing, free education, “Affirmative Action” in government jobs, full-pension after retirement from government jobs, etc., etc.

    But, Indian government can only provide a very limited assistance as there are 1.5 billion people to provide for.

    Then, Christians tells everyone that, if the entire “Hindu” population do not quit their forefathers’ faith (i.e., Sanatana Dharma), India as a nation is doomed to failure!

    If you are tired of reading my above sentences, my dear readers, below I cite some significant accomplishments of Indian “Hindus”:

    1. India is now the fastest growing economy in the world! It was the second-fastest growing economy for the past 25 years, trailing the People’s Republic of China only.

    2. India got 1/15th of what PRC was getting in FDI and utilized those funds more efficiently.

    3. India has the 2nd highest number of billionaires in Asian continent.

    4. India has an economy that has a range and depth in all areas of commerce.

    5. India’s major trade partners are the USA, PRC, the EU, Japan, Israel… just to name a few!

    6. India gets 75% of all the IT contracts from world’s biggest IT market – the USA!

    7. “Hindu” India is one of 6 major space powers and has sent rockets and satellites into space and Geo-Stationary orbits for the past 30 years. India designs its own rockets and cryogenic engines and satellites (both civilian and military)…and is the only country among the 6 who has sent a probe to MARS the first time successfully!

    8. “Hindu” India is the only country that has produced Thorium-based fast-breeder nuclear reactors that produces more energy than what was put in…and they are coming online in the future.

    9. “Hindu” India today is world’s 6th largest economy.

    Vande mātaram
    Sujalāṃ suphalāṃ
    Malayajaśītalām
    Śasya śyāmalāṃ
    Mātaram
    Vande mātaram

    Śubhra jyotsnām
    Pulakita yāminīm
    Phoolla kusumita
    Droomadalaśobhinīm
    Suhāsinīṃ
    Sumadhuram bhāṣiṇīm
    Sukhadāṃ varadāṃ
    Mātaram
    Vande mātaram

  34. Vishal Kumar says:

    @Found The Truth

    Actually I was also very much amazed to see such stupid translation but we should acknolwedge that people exist in world who do everything to convert the whole people on this earth into a single Ideology. They defame other people History Hero by spreading lies about them, mistransaltion of their scriptures. This is done only converting the people. They believe only their faith is the best and rest are garbage. Only Jesus is the Best or Only Muhammad is best or Only Moses is best man ever came on the planet. Their mind are possossed with their Ideas and they are ready even to kill if you do not accept their idea. They are not ready to acknowledge other different ideas. They are mentally sick and needs mental treatment. Muslim ruled on India and broke thousands of temple because they believed only their beleif system is best and Christian came in India they also believed only their belief system is best and started people converted into their religion by hook or crook. It is was not for Jesus but to satisfy their ego. They said Krishna was rapist, Ram was criminal, Hanuman is monkey. You are stupid people you worship a monkey. Only jesus is best. They think after converting the people into Islam, Christianity they will get mental peace. But they are in trap of illussion. A sincer follower of anyone will not try to convert other. Even Idea of converting a foolish thing. Because we are all already one. It is game of Existence or say God every one seems different. . An enlightened person naver makes religion but show path which is easy according to him to realize oneness. Almost all things are similar of enlightened beings but due language barriers, culture impression, understanding they look different.

  35. Vishal Kumar says:

    @Found The Truth

    Do you know sanskrit language world most scientifict Hindu lanugage declared by scientist? I know sanskit and studied sanskrit till 12th standard in my school and transalation is correct and by the way Hindi 99% words come directly from sanskrit that is why I am familier with sanskrit words and Hindi is my mother tongue. And I discuss with Pandit Ji also, my senior and proffessor of Sanskrit launguage, he is master in sanskirt that he can communicae in sanskrit fluently. And I know my language much batter than a non-speaker of my language. And translation is accurate.

    अहस्ता यदपदी वर्धत कषाः शचीभिर्वेद्यानाम |
    शुष्णं परि परदक्षिणिद विश्वायवे नि शिश्नथः ||

    In this mantra,
    Kshaa = Earth (refer Nigantu 1.1)
    Ahastaa = without hands
    Apadee = without legs
    Vardhat = moves ahead
    Shushnam Pari = Around the sun
    Pradakshinit = revolves

    Thus meaniing comes
    “This earth is devoid of hands and legs, yet it moves ahead. All the objects over the earth also move with it. It moves around the sun.

  36. Found The Truth says:

    Dear Bro Vishal,

    Your translations are incorrect.
    The Rig Veda 10.22.14 verse
    अहस्ता यदपदी वर्धत कषाः शचीभिर्वेद्यानाम |
    शुष्णं परि परदक्षिणिद विश्वायवे नि शिश्नथः ||

    The writer distorted the translation as well as the meaning of this verse, it states that the Vedic god Indra after moving around the earth slew his enemies. This verse can also be interpreted as the Sun moves around the earth killing bacteria because Indra is sometime translated as Sun by scholars. The Arya Samaj commentary also doesn’t state anything like the earth moves ahead it only states that the earth devoid of hands and feet flourished and ‘You surrounding the earth forces the cloud to cause rain for the welfare of the people” readers can check the verses in aryasamajjamnagar.org.

    Rig Veda 10.149.1

    This verse is also mistranslated by the writer, the correct translation is,
    Rig Veda 10.149.1 सविता यन्त्रैः पर्थिवीमरम्णादस्कम्भने सविता दयामद्रंहत अश्वमिवाधुक्षद धुनिमन्तरिक्षमतूर्तेबद्धं सविता समुद्रम
    savitā yantraiḥ pṛthivīmaramṇādaskambhane savitā dyāmadṛṃhat |
    aśvamivādhukṣad dhunimantarikṣamatūrtebaddhaṃ savitā samudram ||
    Rig Veda 10.149.1 SAVITAR fixed the earth with bands to bind it…
    Maharshi Yaska writes,
    Nirukta 10.32 ”Savitr has fixed the earth with supports; Savitr has fastened heaven in unsupported space…”
    This passage from Nirukta makes it more clear which translation is correct.
    How can they claim that the earth moves around the sun according to Vedas when the Veda clearly states that the Earth is fixed and it’s the Sun which moves around the Earth. An Indian Scientist named Bhaskaracharya (1114-1185) wrote that the earth is immovable
    ”As heat is an inherent property of the Sun and of Fire, as cold of the Moon, fluidity of water, and hardness of stones, and as the air is volatile, so the earth is naturally immovable. For oh! the properties existing on things are wonderful.”-Siddhanta Shiromani Goladhyaaya of Bhaskaracharya, Bhuvankosh, Shloka 5

    Yajur Veda 33.43

    This verse is mistranslated by the writer, here is the correct translation,
    Yajur Veda 33.43 Throughout the dusky firmament advancing, laying to rest the immortal and the mortal, Borne on his golden chariot he cometh, Savitar, God, beholding living creatures.
    http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/wyv/wyvbk33.htm

    I also discovered some more sexual and murder acts by the Hindu gods recorded and also attested by Stella Kramisch in her other books.

    There are many Hindu groups who are mis-translating the Vedas to re-write history, sanitize Hinduism and show they were advanced civilization with examples of head-transplant (Ganesh who is actually an elephant and got a human body)
    You asked the below question

    Hindu were very advanced people. Thousands years old temple exist in India which is a surprise to every person. How much advanced their engineering at that time. Even today making such a grand temple is a tough task.

    If Ancient Hindus really were advanced in science and technology, how come they were a conquered land (defeated and ruled by British, Afghans, Mughals, Persians, Babylonians, Greek, Mongols, French, Portuguese) ?
    How come there is no archaeological evidence of their medical, scientific and war technology?

    There is no temple or indian monument or structure which is included in the “Seven wonders of the world” Google it and check yourself.. In the new wonders list they do include Taj Mahal ( but please know that it was built by the Mughals)
    If you look at the Pyramids in Egypt or Machu Pichu in Peru or the Great wall of china then you are in awe of the achievement?

    Only thing India stands out is the (Erotic temples of Khajuraho which depict the sex between different Hindu gods and goddesses and animals etc

    Also How come India lost war/territory to Pakistan, China etc.

    I do agree that now India as it is being secular is becoming a strong power but is still a third world country

    Jesus alone is the truth, the way and life

  37. Vishal Kumar says:

    @Found The Trut
    Dear Brother, you are telling lie. Because Vedic verse cleary says earth is moving and no where it is said earth is supported by four elephants. These are some evenglist who are spreading lie to convert Hindu into Christianity.

    Rig Veda 10.22.14 verse cleary says
    “This earth is devoid of hands and legs, yet it moves ahead. All the objects over the earth also move with it. It moves around the sun.

    In this mantra,
    Kshaa = Earth (refer Nigantu 1.1)
    Ahastaa = without hands
    Apadee = without legs
    Vardhat = moves ahead
    Shushnam Pari = Around the sun
    Pradakshinit = revolves

    Rig Veda 10.149.1
    “The sun has tied Earth and other planets through attraction and moves them around itself as if a trainer moves newly trained horses around itself holding their reins.”

    In this mantra,
    Savita = Sun
    Yantraih = through reins
    Prithiveem = Earth
    Aramnaat = Ties
    Dyaam Andahat = Other planets in sky as well
    Atoorte = Unbreakable
    Baddham = Holds
    Ashwam Iv Adhukshat = Like horses

    Yajur Veda 33.43
    “The sun moves in its own orbit in space taking along with itself the mortal bodies like earth through force of attraction.”

    What you wlll says about above verse. Are science not contaiend in them.?
    Hindu were very advanced people. Thousands years old temple exist in India which is a surprise to every person. How much advanced their engineering at that time. Even today making such a grand temple is a tough task.

  38. Face_The_Truth says:

    Correction to typographical errors:

    Dear readers,

    I often miss word(s) in my written sentences when I am typing fast.

    So, here are 2 corrections in my previous post.

    Because, Bhagwan Shri Krishna — Veda Vyāsa being the narrator of Shrimad Bhagavad Gita — DOES NOT seem like an individual who needed 1000 females for carnal pleasure!

    So, if there is a “Purana” that says in Sanskrit language about things that DO NOT correspond with the Dharmik character of Bhagwan Shri Krishna, the writer of that “Purana” — whoever he or SHE maybe — MUST BE seriously flawed.

  39. Face_The_Truth says:

    To Screen-Name Continuum:

    I DID NOT use the word “ONLY”.

    Please DO NOT put word in my writings.

    What I wrote was LEGALLY correct.

    For example, Bhagwan Shri Krishna stood for Dharma and destroyed Adharma.

    But, if a writer writes a fictitious story (e.g., a “Puranic” story) over 5000 years ago about Bhagwan Shri Krishna marrying 1000 females for sexual gratification, then that writer him/herself must either be seriously flawed person in his/her own life or that writer could just be a disgruntled person.

    There are lots of writers — including Sanskrit writers — who wrote false and fictitious stories about Bhagwan Shri Krishna; but, those false and fictitious stories were just false and fictitious.

    For another example, my father NEVER slept with any other woman except my mother.

    But, if a distant relative concocts a story of my father being promiscuous and womanizer, that concocted story must be just false and fictitious.

    Because, Bhagwan Shri Krishna — being the narrator of Srimad Bhagavad Gita — DOES NOT seem like an individual who needed 1000 females for carnal pleasure!

    So, if there is a “Purana” that says in Sanskrit language about things that do not correspond with the Dharmic character of Bhagwan Shri Krishna, that writer of that “Purana” — whoever he or maybe — MUST BE seriously flawed.

    I DID NOT say, there MUST be ONLY 3 possibilities.

    Sanatana Dharma DOES NOT have blasphemy laws.

    Early and medieval Christianism in Europe invented blasphemy laws in order to burn alive non-believers of Christian falsehoods and Christianism’s immediate sibling Islam still implements blasphemy laws in any Muslim-majority country.

    So, any writer can defame Bhagwan Shri Krishna’s character in any language in this world and that reflects the serious flaw in the character of that particular writer.

    My 3 mentioned possibilities were NOT intended for “End All” or “Be ALL”.

  40. Saket -the-Charvak says:

    I would appreciate if real debate or comparative study of various religion with that of Sanatan Dharm would have taken place,instead it is sad to see; people hear deliberately try to malign Sanatan Dharma only to project their false belief as the supreme one,in doing so they are harming humanity as whole.If any god say’s, “The earth is flat and is six thousand year old” then definitely he/it is not god,since man know the earth is not either flat nor is six thousand years old. Vedic Dharma/ Sanatan Sanskriti is repository of knowledge with human evolution. This evolved with the time and yug (Millennium).
    1.Since Dharma evolved and led humans from darkness to light from ignorance to knowledge. “tamso ma jyotirgamaya”. There was no other religion to compete So there is no name,no rules for bashing other religion. You can’t bash or criticize non existent.
    2. This is why it has more than 1400 scriptures on various topics helpful in material and spiritual life and this knowledge evolved with time.
    3. Ayurvda, Medicine, Vyakrna, Natyashashtra, state crafts, yagya hawan ritual, philosophy, astrology, Jyotish, poetics, sangita shastra, yoga, Veda,Vedanta, Puran, Mimansa to name a few. Books are available on every aspect of human brain can imagine in such a detail that only one book Mahabharat contains one lakh shlokas.
    4. In short Dharma is celebration of the diversity of Human knowledge.
    5. We as a layman only know about Dharma as a blind man knows about elephant after holding the tail of the elephant.
    6. Most of us are only able to know what we see on daily basis like nature and creation worship. And on the basis of this we criticize and appreciate dharma. But Dharma criticize none. Dharma don’t give scope for criticism but enlightenment.
    7. There is so much more to know. Since I am born in a Dharma followers family. Therefore I celebrate the diversity of human thoughts with ease. Dose not mean i know everything. But once you will know Dharma out of the set criteria of Abrahamic religion for Dharma. You will find nothing to criticize like a blind man holding an elephant tail and saying why he is made to hold a snake.
    8. For example when you see a survivor on discovery eating dead animal poo and pee either you appreciate or criticize this. But no one can deny that this human will survive the odd. And Dharma have a complete set of philosophy and practicing sect. However a little. To make sure that the human will survive the extreme. And Dharma. They will not die out because of the certain dogmas made by the so called civilized society or religion. 9. Religion ends at heaven and hell only but the Dharma gives to strive even beyond this. That’s Moksha complete liberation.
    10. Comparing Dharma with one book one prophet religion is not a good idea. Can only increase ignorance. So better study the world’s oldest surviving civilization based on Dharma yourself. सर्वे जना:सुखिनो भवन्तु. सर्वे सन्तु निराम्या:

  41. continuum says:

    Jesus is the only the truth, way and life.
    =========================================

    Jesus is the only the truth, way and life TO HELL FOR SURE…

    JUST ASSERTIONS DO NOT PROVE ANYTHING.

    Jeebus was born through adultery…

    Jeebus is incapable to even tolerate hunger, anger, thirst, fear, sorrow and even wept when his girl friend Mary Magda the prostitute was weeping, showing his emotional closeness to a prostitute. Jeebus was subject to all human emotions and weakness.

    Tell me why should we worship such a weakling?

    TO ADD TO THIS LIST, Jeebus was a deluded mentally retarded suicidal mentally unstable person…

    I would NOT consider jeebus as even normal human being, much less a strong human being. ONLY FOOLS CONSIDER SUCH WEAKLING AS some god.

    SUICIDAL THOUGHHTS ARE DUE TO MENTAL ILLNESS. HERE I WILL PROVE THROUGH GOOSE-PELS THAT ADULTERY BORN JEEBUS WAS SUICIDAL MENTAL RETARD.

    THE FOUNDATION OF CHRISTIANITY IS BASED ON SUICIDAL BEHAVIOR..Mamzer jeebus is a suicidal delusional mental retard…

    BOOK Title: “Suicide by Cop: Committing Suicide by Provoking Police to Shoot You”

    Authors: By Mark Lindsay, David Lester

    “Karin Andriolo (1998) has described a number of cultures in which people commit suicide by getting other to kill them…………*This method of committing suicide has been called indirect suicide, vicarious suicide, or masked suicide. Masked suicide is a public performance, and therefore, a public property.* The suicide conforms to the cultural norms and values and thus confirms them. *The suicidal person of this type also does not act impulsively, but rather seeks a cause, and the scenario offers solemnity, symbolism, and purpose. The ritual induces control and calmness in the suicide.*”

    WHAT JEEBUS DID IS INDIRECT SUICIDE AS PER ABOVE DEFINITION. INSTEAD OF SUICIDE BY COP, JEEBUS COMMITTED SUICIDE BY ROMAN SOLDIERS. The symbolism of jeebus’ death is sacrificial lamb, purpose is saving the world from sins…..Jeebus knew he will die and yet did not escape death….This is suicidal behavior clearly…

    GOSPEL VERSES AS EVIDENCE FOR JEEBUS PLANNING SUICIDE FOR LONG TIME

    John 10:15 Young’s Literal Translation

    according as the Father doth know me, and I know the Father, and my life I lay down for the sheep,

    John 10:11

    “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.

    John 10:17

    The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life–only to take it up again.

    John 10:18

    No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”

    THESE VERSES CLEARLY SHOW THAT JEEBUS WAS PLANNING INDIRECT SUICIDE THROUGH RITUAL SACRIFICE, SUICIDE BY ROMAN SOLDIERS. JEEBUS SIMPLY MASKED HIS SUICIDE WITH GRANDIOSE CLAIMS WHICH IS TYPICAL FOR PEOPLE WHO COMMIT INDIRECT SUICIDE.

    Now lets see if SUICIDAL RITUAL is consistent with the belief in a perfect almighty God.

    A perfect almighty God can be thought of to have the following attributes.

    1. Omniscience
    2. Absolute independence in any act
    3. No defects like human beings have jealousy or making mistakes or being a mental retard or one with mentl disorders.

    Being a perfect almighty God, He is

    1. Sole judge
    2. sole Jury
    3. Sole executioner of punishment and rewards.

    Being so, whom did this God want to convince to forgive his own creation through this ghastly bloody suicidal sacrifice of mamzer jeebus?

    Only Himself.

    So the christian claim is that a perfect almighty God, in order to convince Himself to forgive His own creation, sacrificed allegedly His so called son, the mamzer jeebus to save the humanity from His own judgment.

    Now, I am appalled as to why christians cannot see the stupidity of this claim.

    Here almighty God has to merely suspend His judgment in order to save humanity and yet He demands a suicidal torturous bloody sacrifice to save humanity. Is this God unable to forgive without bloody painful torturous sacrifices? What does it say about this God except He is a sadistic violent fellow. Hence this belief is inconsistent with a belief in a perfect almighty God.

    To trump it, christians believe that mamzer jeebus is also god Himself or equal person with god the father. This is even worse, for here one person of god is satisfied by a bloody suicidal ritual sacrifice of another person of god. Here, the persons of god is shown to be a sado-masochist.

    Sadomasochism is the giving or receiving pleasure from acts involving the receipt or infliction of pain or humiliation.

    Mamzer jeebus is definitely a sado-masochist, for he thinks his torturous death will save others and thereby receives pleasure or satisfaction.

    god the father is also another sado-masochist for he receives satisfaction by giving punishment and inflicting pain to god the son. Thus god the father forgives his own creation after being satisfied through infliting torturous pain and death to his son.

    CLEARLY, THE TRINITY OF CHRISTIANITY IS A SADO-MASOCHIST BUNCH OF THREE loonies…NOT LOGICALLY CONSISTENT WITH A BELIEF IN A PERFECT almighty God.

    HENCE MAMZER JEEBUS’ BELIEF AND CHRISTIAN BELIEF IS ILLOGICAL AND IMPOSSIBLE TO BE TRUE AS IT IS LOGICALLY INCONSISTENT. This proves christianity is a false belief based on suicidal delusional belief of a mental retard mamzer jeebus, it still remains a falsehood ONLY.

  42. continuum says:

    Face the untruth says,
    ==============================
    There are 3 distinct possibilities:
    Writers of those myriads of “Hindu” Puranas could have been many seriously flawed individuals in their personal lives FOR writing promiscuity and physical gratification in their written characters!

    Or, those writers of those myriads of “Hindu” Puranas could have been demonstrating 3 distinct human tendencies — such as Sattva, Rajas and Tamas — in their written works with colorful descriptions of this God is doing this and that Goddess is doing that.

    Or, the third possibility is, those writers of those myriads of “Hindu” Puranas were purely writing fictions out of pure devotion or out of pure disgruntlement by creating myths out of existing LEGENDS.
    ===============================

    Who told you there are ONLY 3 possibilities? JUST BECAUSE YOU DO NOT KNOW ANY OTHER POSSIBILITY AND LACK IMAGINATION, DOES IT MEAN OTHER POSSIBILITIES DOES NOT EXIST.

    HERE IS WHAT HINDU PURANAS THEMSELVES STATE…

    Padma Purana, Uttara-khanda, 236.18–21

    Satvika Puranas: (majority content is sAtvika with some tàmasã and Rajasa potions)

    “वैष्णवं नारदीयं च तथा भागवतं शुभम् । गारुडं च तथा पाद्मं वाराहं शुभदर्शने । सात्विकानि पुराणानि विज्ञेयानि शुभानि वै ।।

    “Vishnu Purana, Naradiya Puran, Padma Purana, Garuda Purana, Varaha Purana, Srimad Bhagavatam Purana (236.18)”

    Rajasa Puranas: (majority content is rajas with some tàmasã and sAtvika potions)

    ब्रह्माण्डं ब्रह्मवैवर्तं मार्कण्डेयं तथैव च । भविष्यं वामनं ब्राह्मं राजसानि निबोधत ।। Brahmanda Purana, Brahmavaivarta,

    Markandeya Purana, Bhavishya Purana, Vamana Purana, Brahma Purana (236.19)

    Tamasa Puranas : (majority content is tàmasã with some sAtvika and Rajasa potions)

    मात्सयं कौर्मं तथा लैङ्गम् शैवं स्कान्दं तथैव च । आग्नेयं च षडेतानि तामसानि निबोधत ।।

    “Matsya Purana, Kurma Purana, Linga Purana, Shiva Purana, Skanda Purana, Agni Purana (236.20)

    And it further says

    सात्विका मोक्षदाः प्रोक्ताः राजसा सर्वदा अशुभाः । तथैव तामसा देवि निरयप्राप्तिहेतवः ।। (प.पु. उत्तर 236.21)

    Among these puranas Satvika Puranas lead one to liberation, Rajasa Puranas leads to inauspicious results everywhere and tamasa puranas lead one to hell. (236.21)

    PURANAS ARE NOT REFLECTIONS OF PSYCHE OF SOME AUTHORS, THEY REFLECT PSYCHE OF souls OF THREE CATEGORIES WHO ARE ATTRACTED TO PARTICULAR PURANAS AS PER THEIR SOUL’S INTRINSIC NATURE.

    ONLY THOSE PORTIONS OF SATVIKA PURANAS ARE VALID WHICH AGREE WITH VEDAS. Majority OF RAJAS AND TAMAS puranas are NOT AUTHENTIC AS IT LEADS TO HELL AS PER Padma Purana.

    Garuda Purana mentions three-fold category of souls. Souls of such category get attracted to similar categories.

    upādhirdvividhaḥ proktaḥ svarūpo bāhya eva ca // GarP_3,2.19 //

    The distinguishing mark (of souls) are two-fold, intrinsic qualities (svarupo) and extrinsic qualities (bAhya)..

    bāhyopādhirlaye yāti muktāvanyasya saṃśthitiḥ /
    sarvopādhivi nāśe hi pratibiṃbaḥ kathaṃ bhavet // GarP_3,2.20 //

    The extrinsic qualities dissolve in Universal destruction (laya) and the intrinsic nature of souls (pratibimba) remains even in mukti, i.e. state of release from cycle of birth and death..If both disappear, how can souls (pratibimba) exist in mukti, if both intrinsic and extrinsic differences disappear.

    cidrūpākhyo hyupādhistu mokṣe yepyadhikāriṇaḥ /
    duḥ kharūpo hyupādhistu tamaso yedhikāriṇaḥ // GarP_3,2.21 //

    The distinguishing mark of souls that achieve salvation (moksha) is that of untainted happiness (cidrUpa) and that of the souls who go to hell is that of sorrow (duhkha)

    miśrarūpo hyupādhistu nityasaṃsāriṇāṃ mataḥ /
    bāhyopādhirliṅgadehaḥ sarveṣāṃ nātra saṃśayaḥ // GarP_3,2.22 //

    For the souls who are called nityasamsAri (prone to cycle of birth and death perpetually), their state is mixed (sorrow and happiness).

    The gross outer body (upAdir) and lingadeha (another body covering the soul) are external (bAhya) ones.

    CLEARLY THE PURANAS ARE WRITTEN FOR SOULS BELONGING TO RESPECTIVE CATEGORIES. AS Garuda Purana SAYS, THOSE WHO ARE UNQUALIFIED (Tamas and Rajas souls) AS YOU ARE are ATTRACTED TO RAJAS AND TAMAS PURANAS AND KEEP QUOTING IT.

  43. Face_The_Truth says:

    THIS MESSAGE IS FOR SCREEN-NAME CHRISTIAN MOTHER-FUCKER FOUND_THE_TRUTH:

    I AM NOT CONCEDING OR AGREEING WITH YOU CHRISTIAN MOTHER-FUCKER FOR ANYTHING.

    DO NOT TWIST MY SENTENCES, YOU CHRISTIAN MOTHER-FUCKER.

    WHEN PROF. STELLA KRAMRISCH WAS DESCRIBING “HINDU” PURANAS, SHE WAS TRANSLATING WORD BY WORD FROM SANSKRIT TO ENGLISH.

    THERE WAS NOTHING TO HIDE OR THERE WAS NO MATTER OF RIDICULE.

    LET’S FACE THE TRUTH:

    YOUR JESUS FUCKING JEW WAS NO “SON OF GOD”.

    DURING 150 YEARS OF BRITISH CHRISTIAN RULE OF INDIAN SUBCONTINENT, CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES TRIED THEIR UTMOST IN TRANSLATING THIS TEXT OR THAT TEXT INTO ENGLISH IN ORDER TO CONVERT INDIAN “HINDUS” TO CHRISTIANISM AND, YET CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES MISERABLY FAILED.

    YOU CHRISTIAN MOTHER-FUCKER WILL FAIL TOO.

    DO NOT ADDRESS ME AGAIN.

    DO NOT WRITE ANYTHING BY USING MY SCREEN-NAME, YOU CHRISTIAN MOTHER-FUCKER.

    INDIA IS SUFFERING BECAUSE OF NOT CLEANING OUT THE TRASH LIKE CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS WHO ARE STILL SUCKING OUT THE BLOOD OF “HINDUS”.

    DO NOT WRITE ANOTHER POST TOWARDS ME.

    YOU ARE KUTTAR BACCHA.

    YOU NEED A HEAVY BEATING WITH AN IRON-ROD IN ORDER TO BREAK EVERY MAJOR BONE IN YOUR BODY.

    AND, YOUR LAST SCREAMS WILL BE “I’M JESUS FUCKING JEW”…”I’M JESUS FUCKING JEW”…”I’M JESUS FUCKING JEW”…UNTIL YOUR LAST MOMENT.

  44. Found The Truth says:

    Dear Vishal,

    So, you can see that Face_the_truth is now conceding and agreeing with the below statement in his posts as to why the Hindu Puranas has despicable behavior mentioned and attributed to Hindu gods.

    Face_the_truth conceded that

    There are 3 distinct possibilities:
    Writers of those myriads of “Hindu” Puranas could have been many seriously flawed individuals in their personal lives FOR writing promiscuity and physical gratification in their written characters!

    Or, those writers of those myriads of “Hindu” Puranas could have been demonstrating 3 distinct human tendencies — such as Sattva, Rajas and Tamas — in their written works with colorful descriptions of this God is doing this and that Goddess is doing that.

    Or, the third possibility is, those writers of those myriads of “Hindu” Puranas were purely writing fictions out of pure devotion or out of pure disgruntlement by creating myths out of existing LEGENDS.

    In short, the above means

    The writers of the Hindu Puranas were mentally unstable or criminals in their personal life
    Or
    They were depicting the despicable acts of Gods and Goddesses in colorful details as per their mood
    Or
    They were writing fictions and creating myths (i.e. lying out of devotions)

    To summarize we can conclude that the Hindu Puranas and all the Hindu gods (Shiva, Vishnu, Brahma, Indra, Agni etc.) and goddesses and their activities are fictitious and written by insane men.

    Jesus is the only the truth, way and life.

  45. continuum says:

    The message of Christ is not – follow my teachings become a Christian or go to hell and damnation. This is an evil distortion and definitely not Moral Perfection. To condemn billions of Hindus, Buddhists, non – Christians to hell and damnation is frankly idiotic.
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    THERE IS NO DISTORTION HERE AT ALL. This is the fact according to evil bible.

    Matthew 10:28
    Chapter
    28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

    Matthew 13

    41 The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. 42 They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

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    Jesus never engaged in violence or retaliation against those who mocked and rejected his message. He never sent out assassins to seek vengeance and murder His critics.
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    Jeebus may not have reacted physically, but he wished for utter destruction of people who rejected them..

    Matthew 10

    14 And if anyone will not welcome you or heed your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town.

    15 Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.

    IT IS CLEAR THAT JEEBUS WAS NO DIFFERENT THAN TYPICAL ABRAHAMIC DESERT BARBARIAN FOLLOWERS WISHING FOR DESTRUCTION OF UNBELIEVERS. JEEBUS IS OBVIOUSLY TALKING ABOUT HELL…

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    Jesus never molested a child, raped or abused women, ordered raids to capture booty, owned slaves, kept sex slaves, sold women and children into slavery, formed armies to conquer towns and cities, engaged in massacres, beheaded captives, tortured and brutalized non-believers in His Messiah hood, called on the Angel Gabriel to wreak havoc against His enemies.
    ==========================

    Jeebus may NOT have wished for all these things, but surely worshipped a demonic god of Isaac Jacob and Abraham who approved all of these atrocities. There are many verses where jeebus quotes where he referred to the god of the old testament.

    THEN WHY DID JEEBUS DID NOT CRITICIZE ANYWHERE FOLLOWING VERSES OF BIBLE..

    Murder

    I Samuel – Chapter 15 (Genocide of suckling infants and even animals)

    3 Now, go, and you shall smite Amalek, and you shall utterly destroy all that is his, and you shall not have pity on him: and you shall slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.’ ”

    Permanent Slavery

    Leviticus – Chapter 25 (NON-ISRAELITE SLAVE IS PERMANENT SLAVE AND IS PASSED AS PROPERTY FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION)
    1 And the Lord spoke to Moses on Mount Sinai, saying
    ………………………
    44 Your male slave or female slave whom you may have from the nations that are around you, from them you may acquire a male slave or a female slave.
    45 And also from the children of the residents that live among you, from them you may acquire [slaves] and from their family that is with you whom they begot in your land, and they shall become your inheritance.
    46 You shall hold onto them as an inheritance for your children after you, as acquired property, and may thus have them serve you forever. But as for your brethren, the children of Israel, a man shall not work his brother with rigor.
    …………………………
    55 For the children of Israel are servants to Me; they are My servants, whom I took out of the land of Egypt. I am the Lord, your God.

    CLEARLY THESE RULES ARE GIVEN BY THE biblical demon god yahweh hIMSELF, just like the evil allah. LOOK AT VERSE 1 AT THE BEGINNING AND VERSE 55 AT THE END OF LEVITICUS CHAPTER 25 ABOVE. THIS IS CLEARLY COMMANDS FROM biblical god himself.

    No freedom of religion

    Idolaters to Be Put to Death

    Deuteronomy 13

    …8 you must not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity, and do not spare him or shield him.
    9 Instead, you must surely kill him. Your hand must be the first against him to put him to death, and then the hands of all the people.
    10 Stone him to death for trying to turn you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.…

    Division of humanity into believers and unbelievers based on religion

    Deuteronomy – Chapter 20

    10 When you approach a city to wage war against it, you shall propose peace to it.
    11 And it will be, if it responds to you with peace, and it opens up to you, then it will be, [that] all the people found therein shall become tributary to you, and they shall serve you.
    12 But if it does not make peace with you, and it wages war against you, you shall besiege it,
    13 and the Lord, your God, will deliver it into your hands, and you shall strike all its males with the edge of the sword.
    14 However, the women, the children, and the livestock, and all that is in the city, all its spoils you shall take for yourself, and you shall eat the spoils of your enemies, which the Lord, your God, has given you.
    15 Thus you shall do to all the cities that are very far from you, which are not of the cities of these nations.
    16. However, of these peoples’ cities, which the Lord, your God, gives you as an inheritance, you shall not allow any soul to live.
    17. Rather, you shall utterly destroy them: The Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivvites, and the Jebusites, as the Lord, your God, has commanded you.

    Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)

    Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. “Why have you let all the women live?” he demanded. “These are the very ones who followed Balaam’s advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD’s people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.

    Clearly Moses and God approves of rape of virgins.

    Child marriages with adults

    Numbers 31: (THIS IS NOT MARRIAGE BUT PEDOPHILIA AND RAPE all the same anyway)

    17 So now kill every male child, and every woman who can lie intimately with a man you shall kill.
    18 And all the young girls who have no experience of intimate relations with a man, you may keep alive for yourselves.

  46. continuum says:

    I believe he is doing this penis and vagina worship because he is misinformed by his elders who are following Santana Dharma (Hinduism) without knowing the meaning of the Sanskrit Vedas.
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    Idiot found the untruth,

    Do you now that this is a Jain tradition (the picture) and NOT Vedic traditions? I have already told this to you 1 or 2 years back.

    This is what Jains believe….that these people have given up lust completely…therefore Jains pay them respect.

    ===========================================
    You can see from the little excerpts in her book available on the internet how Hindu gods (Shiva, Brahma Vishnu, Rudra, Surya, Agni, Indra etc) have indulged in immoral and indecent sexual acts of adultery, fornication, homosexuality and bestiality. Instead of using expletives and profanity, please show why these obscene and immoral acts are done by these Hindu gods are why they are good for worship?
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    No matter how many times you repeat LIES, they do NOT become truth and truth do NOT become LIES.

    ALL YOUR SO CALLED INTERNET QUOTES WERE ALREADY SHOWN TO BE FALSE.

    ======================================
    Jesus is the truth, the way and life.
    =====================================

    In what way?

    Can you prove that your adultery born jeebus can save anybody? Your own belief says he died in a cross like a common criminal. Why?

    You fools claim that he died for our sins as ransom…..why? To whom did your jeebus pay this ransom? You claim to the father god…..who would ask for ransom but a criminal and a goon in terms of blood?

    A simple logic will tell you that jeebus dying to convince the 3 in one god is absolute nonsense and absurd. Can you answer this question logically?

  47. Vishal Kumar says:

    @Found The Truth .

    Dear you do not know much about Shiva. You have only borrowed false knowledge from here and there. Shiva was greatest master ever born according to me. Read :Vigyan Bhairav Tantra” in this book Shiva explained 112 ways to expore Jesushood exist within us. If you could able to understand just one way explained by Shiva in “Vigyan Bhairav Tantra” from that day you will not speak but Jesus speak within from you. Your words will be words of Jesus. Buddha explained about Vipsana but in actuall in was explained by Shiva long before Buddha. Shiva gave greatest treasure to world in form of 112 ways to get enlightenment.

    Out of these 112 meditation techniques

    ● Buddha followed only 1 technique out of this and reached the enlightenment.

    ● The entire Zen was born out of only 1 technique from this list.

  48. Face_The_Truth says:

    THIS MESSAGE IS FOR SCREEN-NAME CHRISTIAN_MOTHER-FUCKER_FOUND_THE_TRUTH:

    I AM NOT YOUR BROTHER.

    AND YOUR JESUS FUCKING JEW WAS NO “SON OF GOD”.

    I DO NOT NEED A SON OF A CHRISTIAN WHORE LIKE YOU TO BE MY BROTHER.

    DO NOT ADDRESS ME AGAIN.

    DO NOT WRITE ANYTHING BY USING MY SCREEN-NAME, YOU CHRISTIAN MOTHER-FUCKER.

    INDIA IS SUFFERING BECAUSE OF NOT CLEANING OUT THE TRASH LIKE CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS WHO ARE STILL SUCKING OUT THE BLOOD OF “HINDUS”.

    DO NOT WRITE ANOTHER POST TOWARDS ME.

    YOU ARE KUTTAR BACCHA.

    YOU NEED A HEAVY BEATING WITH AN IRON-ROD IN ORDER TO BREAK EVERY MAJOR BONE IN YOUR BODY.

    AND, YOUR LAST SCREAMS WILL BE “I’M JESUS FUCKING JEW”…”I’M JESUS FUCKING JEW”…”I’M JESUS FUCKING JEW”…UNTIL YOUR LAST BREATH.

  49. Found The Truth says:

    Dear Bro Face_the_Truth,

    Please calm down. We are all children of God.

    Jesus taught that we have to loving, forgiving and kind even to the people who hate us.
    So I will always refrain from using expletives. I also thank you for the reference of Stella Kramisch.

    You can see from the little excerpts in her book available on the internet how Hindu gods (Shiva, Brahma Vishnu, Rudra, Surya, Agni, Indra etc) have indulged in immoral and indecent sexual acts of adultery, fornication, homosexuality and bestiality. Instead of using expletives and profanity, please show why these obscene and immoral acts are done by these Hindu gods are why they are good for worship?

    The truth hurts but eventually you have to face the truth that these Hindu gods are not worthy of worship and is Satanic and so Sanatan Dharma is evil.

    Jesus is the truth, the way and life.

    Please watch this video

  50. Face_The_Truth says:

    THIS MESSAGE IS FOR SCREEN-NAME CHRISTIAN_MOTHER-FUCKER_FOUND_THE_TRUTH:

    I AM NOT YOUR BROTHER.

    AND YOUR JESUS FUCKING JEW WAS NO “SON OF GOD”.

    I DO NOT NEED A SON OF A CHRISTIAN WHORE LIKE YOU TO BE MY BROTHER.

    DO NOT ADDRESS ME AGAIN.

    DO NOT WRITE ANYTHING BY USING MY SCREEN-NAME, YOU CHRISTIAN MOTHER-FUCKER.

    INDIA IS SUFFERING BECAUSE OF NOT CLEANING OUT THE TRASH LIKE CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS WHO ARE STILL SUCKING OUT THE BLOOD OF “HINDUS”.

    DO NOT WRITE ANOTHER POST TOWARDS ME.

    YOU ARE KUTTAR BACCHA.

    YOU NEED A HEAVY BEATING WITH AN IRON-ROD IN ORDER TO BREAK EVERY MAJOR BONE IN YOUR BODY.

    AND, YOUR LAST SCREAMS WILL BE “I’M JESUS FUCKING JEW”…”I’M JESUS FUCKING JEW”…”I’M JESUS FUCKING JEW”…UNTIL YOUR LAST BREATH.

  51. Found The Truth says:

    Dear Bro Vishal,

    You are asking me a very good question below

    Why are your heart filled so much hate and envy that you get bothered if someone worship penis or vagina. Let them go whatever they do and stop this hatered for fellow beings.

    My answer is that if our brother Face_the_truth or anyone is worshipping penis or vagina, we have to tell them it is wrong. That penis of Shiva is not the creator. Moreover that penis of Shiva has done lot of adultery, fornication, homosexuality and bestiality even with bull (Nandi).

    We have love for Face_the_truth and all human beings and do not want them to face judgement from a Holy God and go to hell, so we have to advise him from doing dangerous and sinful things.

    I believe he is doing this penis and vagina worship because he is misinformed by his elders who are following Santana Dharma (Hinduism) without knowing the meaning of the Sanskrit Vedas.

    Please watch this video and then tell me do you think what these worshippers are doing is correct?

  52. Vishal Kumar says:

    @Found the Truth

    Dear Jesus is compassionate and filled with love. Jesus has not hatered, revenge for anyone. If Hindu worship Penis, vagina or cow etc Jesus will not punish them because Jesus has nothing to give except love and compassion. Why are your heart filled so much hate and envy that you get bothered if someone worship penis or vagina. Let them go whatever they do and stop this hatered for fellow beings. Great Kabir said heart filled with love and compassion is house of Jesus/God.

  53. Found The Truth says:

    Dear Bro Face_the_truth,

    You should not fear to face the truth when you have Found the truth. Please humbly accept the facts.

    Your own admired and acknowledged heroine Stella Kramisch who is a scholar on Vedas and in Sanskrit has written in her book “The Presence of Siva” the sexual acts of Hindu god Siva and the curses which caused his penis to fall down. Also her book mentions not to worship penis (lingam) as commanded by Indra. This has authenticated references from Rig Veda.

    Please see the reference here in her book below
    https://books.google.ca/books?id=O5BanndcIgUC&q=linga&source=gbs_word_cloud_r&cad=4#v=snippet&q=linga&f=false

    Also the reference to Hindu god Brahma having sex with his daughter
    https://books.google.ca/books?id=O5BanndcIgUC&q=linga&source=gbs_word_cloud_r&cad=4#v=onepage&q&f=false

    Please tell me where is Stella wrong in the above context?

  54. Face_The_Truth says:

    THIS MESSAGE IS FOR SCREEN-NAME FOUND_THE_TRUTH_CHRISTIAN_MOTHER-FUCKER :

    DO NOT ADDRESS ME AGAIN.

    DO NOT WRITE ANYTHING BY USING MY SCREEN-NAME, YOU CHRISTIAN MOTHER-FUCKER.

    INDIA IS SUFFERING BECAUSE OF NOT CLEANING OUT THE TRASH LIKE CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS WHO ARE STILL SUCKING OUT THE BLOOD OF “HINDUS”.

    DO NOT WRITE ANOTHER POST TOWARDS ME.

  55. Vishal Kumar says:

    @Found the Truth

    My dear you have two path to reach to the Jesus. Path of Kabir based on love and path of Budha based on disciplin in very aspect of life. Path of Budha is long journey but. Path of Kabir & Nanak to fill with love, compassion is easies way to reach Jesus. Kabir Himself said when your heart becomes pure you need not to find Jesus but Jusus will run behind you.

  56. Found The Truth says:

    Dear Bro Face_the_Truth,

    If you sincerely search for the truth then you will find it in Jesus.

    I would rather call you Brother as Christ said to love all i.e. even people who oppose you.

    When you have Christ in you then you will certainly feel love, peace, joy and compassion for everyone.

    Please watch this

  57. Face_The_Truth says:

    THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED FOR CHRISTIAN NAMED FOUND_THE_TRUTH:

    DO NOT ADDRESS ME AGAIN.

    DO NOT WRITE ANYTHING BY USING MY SCREEN-NAME, YOU CHRISTIAN.

    INDIA IS SUFFERING BECAUSE OF NOT CLEANING OUT THE TRASH LIKE CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS WHO ARE STILL SUCKING OUT THE BLOOD OF “HINDUS”.

    DO NOT WRITE ANOTHER POST TOWARDS ME.

    LINK

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murli_Manohar_Joshi

  58. Vishal Kumar says:

    @Found the Truth

    Dear leave your church, temple, mosque. The heart filled love, compassaion for fellow beings is church, mosque, temple. This heart is house of God or Jesus. These foolish people searching me (God) in church, mosque, and temples. Whoever searching God outside of their heart they can not find God in thousands of years

  59. Vishal Kumar says:

    @Found the Truth

    Dear I am the God. I, the God telling you abosolute truth. You must not doubt in my words. Jesus was God. Krishna Was God. Kabir Was God, Bulley Shah was the God, Moses was the God, Mansoor Was the God who said (Anal Haq), Vedic Rishi was God who said (Aham Brahmsmi). Stop thinking, watch thoughts I will decend in you. Light will ignite within from you. You will be the God. Only I am the True. All is my expension. I am the eternal. You are not seprate from me. We are one energy.

  60. Found The Truth says:

    Dear Bro Vishal,

    Jesus Was God. (True and Jesus is God forever)

    Nanak was God (False. Nanak was a man, maybe a good man but not god?)
    .
    Krishna Was the God (False. How can a sex maniac and rapist be god? All Hindu scriptures document his criminal activities)

    Mahavir was the God ( not true. May be a good man but he did not claim to be god)

    But you may be God in future (sorry I am a just a humble man and a creation and just a sinner like everyone else).

    There is nothing exist except God. (God exists forever i.e. eternally).

    Please note that God created us (humans) and we (humans) created other things. (God lets us choose whether we want eternal life or eternal damnation. For eternal life we need forgiveness for our sins and this is possible when we accept that Jesus died for our sins. Of course Jesus rose again)

    All human created creations (like computer, board, house, factory, plastic, stone etc will cease to exist at some time and can be destroyed)

    Word have their limitation.(true)

    Please watch this video

  61. Face_The_Truth says:

    Why do Muslims believe in the ideology of Islam and in the prophethood of rape-born Muhammad the Arabian?

    Muslim scholars and Muslim laymen will tell us that, the ideology of Islam was directly revealed to rape-born Muhammad the Arabian by fictitious Islamic Allah 1400 years ago so that the entire world’s people could become Muslims and live in perfect peace and Islamic harmony until the Qiyamat descends on earth when all faithful Muslims — both living and dead — would ascend Islamic paradise for eternal pleasure and comfort and happiness.

    Because, rape-born Muhammad the Arabian somehow knew that, the entire universe was coming to a rapid end very soon 1400 years ago!

    So, long after death on earth, in fictitious Islamic paradise, faithful Muslim men will only drink milk and honey and will have non-stop sexual intercourse with very young virgins who will be specially created by fictitious Islamic Allah for faithful Muslim men.

    However, world’s Muslim scholars and Muslim laymen will tell us that, because not all people of this world would become Muslims and would accept Islamic way of life (or lifestyle), there would always be deceit, immorality, warfare and war-crimes.

    World’s Muslim scholars and Muslim laymen will tell us that, rape-born Muhammad the Arabian never committed any violence and never started any battle, rather it was the Jews and Christians and Pagans who refused to accept the one and only true messenger’s eternal messages and, thereby, provoked rape-born Muhammad the Arabian to militarily defend the ideology of Islam from all non-believers (e.g., Jews and Christians and Pagans) 1400 years ago.

    Just like world’s Christians constantly tell us that, Christian idol Jesus the Homosexual was a sinless Jew, world’s Muslim scholars and Muslim laymen will constantly remind us that, rape-born Muhammad the Arabian was the most perfect man ever walked on earth!

    World’s Muslim scholars and Muslim laymen will tell us that, to this day fictitious Islamic Allah lives in Saudi Arabia while Saudi Arabia is the most important ally of American government in Middle East.

  62. Walter Sieruk says:

    It’s not actually a fitting title for Jesus to call Him a “Revolutionary.” after a,, Jesus had taught “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s ,and to God the things that are God’s.” Matthew 22:21.[N.K.J..V] That’s not the type of teaching that a ‘revolutionary” would teach.

    By great contrast the title of “Savor’ is very appropriate and fitting title for Jesus.,Luke 2:11.John 3:16-18. 14:6 Second Corinthians 5:21. First John 2:23. 5:20.

    Furthermore this above article is 100% right is in make in clear that the world “Islam” really means “submission”

    For it’s a good idea not to take at face value the claim that the word Islam means “peace.” For example, the ENCARTA WORLD ENGLISH DICTIONARY copyright 1999 defines Islam as “submission” based on the word “aslama” meaning “he surrendered.” Given the definition it’s an odd phenomenon that after about fourteen hundred years starting on September 12, 2001 the meaning changed from “submission” to “peace.” It’s very well known that if the police are questioning someone and he changes his story something is wrong. Nevertheless, when it comes to Islam no one gets suspicious of the change. The jihadists brag that they will win the war against the West by using the Western ignorance and naive gullible mindset on the subject of Islam against us. It seems that they do have some basis in that claim since so many Westerners are beguiled by the Muslim disinformation campaign.

  63. Walter Sieruk says:

    A reply about the false doctrine of Islam of the “paradise with many virgins” part one.

    Jihad suicide-homicide jihad bombers are as deluded as they was dangerous and murderous. For they must had actually believed by that by their murdering jihad bombing he was going to obtain for himself a paradise. The more fool them. For the Bible teaches that a murder “shall not inherit the kingdom of God. ” Galatians 5:21. In addition the falsehood of the story of the doctrine from the Koran, the Qu ‘ran, Sura 44:54. 55:56. 78:31, of a sexual /lust-filled paradise with many virgins, houris, in it for certain men Muslim men is a falsehood the is a story /doctrine is this also absurd. The Bible warns against listening to and believing in unproven, unfounded and far-fetched religious stories. No matter how enticing those religious story /doctrines may be . For the Bible warns against giving “heed to fables…” First Timothy 1:4. Furthermore, the Bible had predicted the coming of such false religious teachers, as those imams, who teaches other a story/doctrine of a lust-filled /lust-fill place for specific men. For the Bible reads “”For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but will after their own lust shall heap to themselves teachers ,having itching ears; and they shall turn their ears for the truth ,and shall be turned unto fables.” Second Timothy 4:3,4. [K.J.V.]

  64. Walter Sieruk says:

    A reply about the false doctrine of Islam of a “paradise with many virgins”, part two.

    An important question is “Why are the jihadist bombers, so very, delusional that they actually want to become human bombs? ” Some of the reasons are that such violent and deadly people are the outcome of the extreme brainwashing that is done in Islamic mind programming centers which are more widely known as mosques and madrasas, by the Muslim clerics, such as the imams and in some countries as Afghanistan and Iran also the mullahs. In those Islamic mind programming centers youth are thoroughly indoctrinated into believing in the Islamic doctrine from the Koran. as found in 44;54. 55:56. 78:31.., of a sexual/lust filled paradise with many virgins, houris, in it for the Muslim male who dies fighting for the cause of Islam in the jihad. First and foremost, those who come out of those places of extreme brainwash are so very warped, sick and deluded that they actually view such murderous bombing attacks as “martyrdom operations”

    Likewise, they are so very damaged that they have literally become dangerous to self and others. In addition, the Bible does warn about false teachers who ingrain a belief in a doctrine of a story of a /lustful/lust-filled place with much sex in it. For the Bible warns about false teachers, the Muslim clerics do fit this description, in Second Peter 2:18. Which reads “For they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh…” Furthermore, many a times a jihad –minded Muslim in his death recording talks about “the wedding with the virgins” that he will have after he becomes a “martyr.” Such a belief Jesus would denounce as being based on false doctrine and false teaching. For Jesus taught “Ye do err, not knowing the scripture, nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angles in heaven.” Mathew 22:29, 30. In contrast to the delusional Islamic pipe-dream of the jihadist in the Koranic story/doctrine of a place with virgins, Christians have the reality of Second Peter 1:16. Which reads “For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ…” [K.J.V.]

  65. Vishal Kumar says:

    @Found The truth

    Oh dear you are near the truth just one step away. Jesus was creator and Jesus was the creation. I have no doubt with your statement. Jesus was manifestation(transformation into creation) of creator. True, I agree. But you are missing the point. You believed in particular indiviuality. I do not say creator to existence. You give name to existence “The Jesus” some others gave name it God, Brahma, Allah etc. The moment we give it name we created a gap between existence and its manifestion into mortal world or say Jesus the creator or “Jesus the creation” son of God. Existence transform into creation. Many other said it other way like there is no creator but creativity. That is why Buddha and Mahavir silienced on the matter of God. How can a God say there is God who created him? This is absurd statement. But you are not God now. Jesus Was God. Nanak was God. Krishna Was the God. Mahavir was the God. But you may be God in future. There is nothing exist except God. Word have their limitation.

  66. A.H. says:

    Vishal wrote:

    “If Jesus was creator who was “son of God” born two thousand yeasr ago? Who was God and who was son of God? They are two?”

    Here below you you will find an early christian testamony namely the Athanasian Creed (third century) dealing with your question.

    Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith.

    Which faith unless every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly.

    And the catholic faith is this: that we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Essence.

    For there is one Person of the Father; another of the Son; and another of the Holy Ghost.

    But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one; the Glory equal, the Majesty coeternal.

    Such as the Father is; such is the Son; and such is the Holy Ghost.

    The Father uncreated; the Son uncreated; and the Holy Ghost uncreated.

    The Father unlimited; the Son unlimited; and the Holy Ghost unlimited.

    The Father eternal; the Son eternal; and the Holy Ghost eternal.

    And yet they are not three eternals; but one eternal.

    As also there are not three uncreated; nor three infinites, but one uncreated; and one infinite.

    So likewise the Father is Almighty; the Son Almighty; and the Holy Ghost Almighty.

    And yet they are not three Almighties; but one Almighty.

    So the Father is God; the Son is God; and the Holy Ghost is God.

    And yet they are not three Gods; but one God. So likewise the Father is Lord; the Son Lord; and the Holy Ghost Lord.

    And yet not three Lords; but one Lord.

    For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity; to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord; So are we forbidden by the catholic religion; to say, There are three Gods, or three Lords.

    The Father is made of none; neither created, nor begotten.

    The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created; but begotten.

    The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten; but proceeding.

    So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts.

    And in this Trinity none is before, or after another; none is greater, or less than another.

    But the whole three Persons are coeternal, and coequal.

    So that in all things, as aforesaid; the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped.

    He therefore that will be saved, let him thus think of the Trinity.

    Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation; that he also believe faithfully the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    For the right Faith is, that we believe and confess; that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man; God, of the Substance [Essence] of the Father; begotten before the worlds; and Man, of the Substance [Essence] of his Mother, born in the world.

    Perfect God; and perfect Man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting.

    Equal to the Father, as touching his Godhead; and inferior to the Father as touching his Manhood.

    Who although he is God and Man; yet he is not two, but one Christ. One; not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh; but by assumption of the Manhood into God.

    One altogether; not by confusion of Substance [Essence]; but by unity of Person.

    For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man; so God and Man is one Christ; Who suffered for our salvation; descended into hell; rose again the third day from the dead.

    He ascended into heaven, he sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty, from whence he will come to judge the living and the dead.

    At whose coming all men will rise again with their bodies; And shall give account for their own works.

    And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have done evil, into everlasting fire.

    This is the catholic faith; which except a man believe truly and firmly, he cannot be saved.

  67. Vishal Kumar says:

    @Found the Truth
    If Jesus was creator who was “son of God” born two thousand year before? Who was God and who was son of God? They are two? How creator became creation? Because if anything comes, grows and decays it is creation. Jesus also came, grew, and perished.

  68. Found The Truth says:

    Dear Bro Vishal,

    Jesus was the Creator.
    If you ask for the Holy Spirit of God to come into your life and show you the truth, it is Jesus who will answer and come into your life. Jesus is the only God who answers. Rest are idols, demons and pro-Satan.

    This is a testimony of Sri Acharya Dhanujaya Sastry (Formerly Hindu Priest at Tirumal Tirupathi Devasthanam (Temple)) whose all relatives are/were priests at other main Hindu Temples.

    He is well versed and educated in Sanskrit and the Vedas and he found that only Jesus Christ is God and is to be worshipped. Please go through the other parts of the videos also.

    May God bless you even as you search for the truth and truth will be found in Jesus only.

  69. Vishal Kumar says:

    @Found The Truth
    Jesus is creater or was creation?

  70. Found The Truth says:

    Dear Bro Vishal,
    All NDE’s (Near Death Experiences) have shown that we are all creations and NOT the Creator.

    Scientists have never been able to create any life in the lab and not even a one-celled life form however primitive like amoeba or paramecium) .

    Equating ourselves with the Creator (God/Jesus) is absurd and not logical. In fact it is the trick used by Satan to pull us away from the truth, way and life in Jesus as our God and Saviour.

    Why do great miracles happen only when you reach out for Jesus and use the name of Jesus and not other god’s names?

    Watch this testimony of a very devoted Santana dharma devotee for 20 plus years and how he found Jesus.

    Jesus is the only way, truth and life.

  71. Vishal Kumar says:

    Everyone is Jesus. Jesus was part of existence. Existence manifest iteself in different forms to experience hardships of mortal worlds. Buddha said if you become indifferent to mortal world pleasures you may recongize your true self being pure consciouness or (Jesus). Start witnessing your thougths and actions. Budha said you are not sinful by nature but only pure consciouness. If you indulge even in lustful activity just be witenss of your thoughts, do not say it is bad or good just be witness and transform will begin within you.

  72. Found The Truth says:

    Dear Bro Vishal,

    It is sometimes shocking to know the truth about these sins and crimes committed by hindu gods mentioned in their own holy books.

    Gang rape by Hindu supergods Vishnu (Krishna), shiva and Brahma of a pious holy woman.

    “One day the sage Atri (Brahma’s son) was performing tapas with his wife Anasuya. Brahma, Visnu, and Siva came and offered him a boon, but Atri remained silent, meditating. Then the three gods went to Anasuya. Siva had his linga (cock) in his hand, Visnu was full of erotic feeling, and Brahma was beside himself with desire, saying to Anasuya, ‘Make love with me or I will die.’ When she heard this coarse speech, Anasuya made no reply, for, although she feared the anger of the gods, she was true to her husband. But they were overcome with delusion, and they raped her by force.” — Bhavisya Purana 3:4:17:67-78.

    Hindu god Shiva had anal sex with another Hindu god Krishna (read Shiva penetrated Krishna ) and produced a super god Ayappa

    According to Hindu Guru Sri Sri Ravi shankar
    Homosexuality has never been considered a crime in Hindu culture. In fact, Lord Ayyappa was born of Hari-Hara (Vishnu & Shiva). It is not a crime in any Smriti. Everyone has male & female elements. According to their dominance, tendencies show up & may change. Nobody should face discrimination because of their sexual preferences. To be branded a criminal for this is absurd.
    https://www.facebook.com/SriSriRaviShankar/posts/10151832425787536

    Krishna married 16000 wives and then killed his descendants
    “One of Krishna’s wives asked Krishna to give her a son equal to the lord of the gods. Krishna performed asceticism for Siva, who granted him a son, Samba. Krishna took sixteen thousand maidens for his pleasure, and then, under the pretext of the Brahmins’ curse, he destroyed his own family and lived in Prabhasa. After living for a hundred and one years in Dwarka, where he had removed the sorrow of old age, he made the curse of the sages come true.”
    Hindu Holy Book reference— Linga Purana 1:69:71, 82-84.

    As per Mahabharata, Krishna had a total of 16108 wives, of which eight were his principle wives and they are Rukmini, Satyabhama, Jambavati, Kalindi, Mitravrinda, Nagnajiti, Bhadra and Lakshana. The other 16100 were more like his concubines. And remember, this was in addition to his sister, aunt and gopis.

    There is a common misconception among some Hindus that Lord Krishna had only one consort/wife, Radha, and these 16,000 gopis were just spiritual followers of this God. That is totally false. In fact, Lord Krishna got so many gopis & wives pregnant that he populated much of the earth with Yadus (Yadavas) and had to annihilate them later.

    In Holy Purans, Lord Brahma (also known as Viraj) harassed and raped his own 6 year old daughter Sarasvati (also known as Padma or Savitri or Satarupa). According to Hinduism, this act of pedophilia was the starting point of universe.

    Brahma later married Sarasvati and they lived together in a lotus for 100 years.
    They had a son Swayambhumaru.

    On seeing his beautiful daughter Padma (Sarasvati), Brahma was sexually excited. He wooed his daughter and wanted to copulate with her. How could a daughter give consent to her own father? Padma refused. Brahma could not give up his desire. He began to quote the Vedas to convince her that there was nothing wrong in having s3x with anyone, anytime, anywhere for the sake of giving birth to a child.
    Mathara Mupathya, susara Mupatithe, Puthrartheetha.
    Sagamarthi, Napathra loka, nasthee thath.
    Saravam paravo vindu ha, dasmath Puthrar tham.
    Matharam suransathee Rehathee

    Translation: For the sake of a child one can enjoy his own sister or daughter, without any sin attached to it.
    Wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/the-brihadaranyaka-upanishad/d/doc117939.html

  73. Vishal Kumar says:

    @Found the truth
    Your mouth is filled with garbage. And you spit only garbage. Krishna Statement were true statement if you have problem with the statement because of Krishna please replace here Krishna with Jesus.

    Jesus was true when he said “division of the society into four Varnas was made by him”, All people can not be warrier / professor in a society. Existence manifest itself in different modes. Some people energy flow in creativity, some people energy flow in gaining physical strenth, they are good for army, police etc. Its flow of energy in one’s which leades to his personality before the society

  74. Found The Truth says:

    Dear Bro Vishal,
    There are many ancient civilization and in them the ancient families did follow the trade and occupation of their fathers.
    Following trade in families could have extended into casteism may have been everywhere, but we know that casteism became rigid and is surviving and in fact thriving in India and among the Hindus in the diaspora.

    The reason is evil and demonic influence of the three Hindu super gods (read super demons) specially Krishna, Brahma and Shiva and the 330 million other gods (read demons) who committed many sinful acts.

    Shiva, Vishnu and Brahma between them have committed bestiality, rape, gang-rape, mass-murder, incest, homosexuality, casteism, adultery, fornication, robbery, burglary, kidnapping etc.

    In the West the demonic influence was wiped out by the influence of Christianity (strong Christian believers) so casteism did not stick for long.

  75. Vishal Kumar says:

    @Found the Truth

    Crux of all human problem ego, misunderstanding, makes defination of words suits one’s selfiness. India is anceint country. People were engaged in their inharited profession since centuries. As time passed profession became identical with castiesm. If one’s ancesstor were in indulge in loudary business. This loundary bussiness became his caste. it became hard for him to choose other profession. It divided society and created unrest and guilt for future generation because of their profession.

    Krishna was true when he said “division of the society into four Varnas was made by him”, All people can not be warrier / professor in a society. Existence manifest itself in different modes. Some people energy flow in creativity, some people energy flow in gaining physical strenth, they are good for army, police etc. Its flow of energy in one’s which leades to his personality before the society.

  76. Found The Truth says:

    Dear Anonymous,

    The worst exploitation of human labour which is prevalent in India even now and the religious justification for slavery aka casteism in India is because of this verses in Gita. Krishna says that he is the originator for caste system. Casteism is worse as it leads to exploitation, rape, murder and slavery of humans.

    Gita is alone responsible for India having the world’s largest slavery system in the world today.

    Chapter 4, Verse 13: of Gita

    “chātur-varṇyaḿ mayā sṛṣṭaḿ guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ |

    tasya kartāram api māḿ viddhy akartāram avyayam ||”

    “According to the three modes of material nature and the work associated with them, the four divisions of human society are created by Me. And although I am the creator of this system, you should know that I am yet the non-doer, being unchangeable.”

    So the claim is made that although Krishna says that the division of the society into four Varnas was made by him, he puts an emphasis on ‘guna-karma’, qualities and actions of individuals, past deeds.

  77. Found The Truth says:

    Also according to Professor Kedar Joshi

    3. Krishna is nothing short of a terrorist and the Gita is Hindu terrorism

    As per the Gita, a lot many modern women would be miscreants and thus would be on Krishna’s hit-list—threatened to death by him—since Krishna says that even women, vaisyas (i.e. merchants), sudras (i.e. low-level workers), or any people of sinful birth go to the highest goal, if they take his shelter; he further says that then how much more righteous brahmanas and devout King-sages!; which means that Krishna does not consider women to belong to the category of “righteous brahmanas”; so women are either unrighteous brahmanas or not brahmanas at all; if they are unrighteous brahmanas, they are unrighteous anyway, and if they are not brahmanas at all, then the women who do the works of brahmanas—e.g. the works of professional teachers—would be unrighteous, miscreants, for Krishna asks everyone from a division to do work only assigned for their division. It is in fact not only many of the modern women but people of other faiths too—people who do not believe in Krishna—such as atheists, Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc., that could be supposed to be threatened with death by Krishna. Krishna—especially for most of the modern people—is therefore nothing short of a terrorist; and the Bhagavad-gita is “Hindu terrorism”!

    This, of course, does not mean that anyone who preaches the Bhagavad-gita is necessarily a terrorist (or an accomplice of a terrorist), for they may be completely unaware of the terroristic message hidden in the Gita.

    https://www.boloji.com/articles/12148/the-satanic-verses-of-bhagavad-gita

  78. Found The Truth says:

    Dear Anonymous,

    The Bible tells about the history of man till the ministry of Jesus and beyond.
    So the history includes all violence and sins committed.

    Jesus preaches love, care, sacrifice, forgiveness, service, justice and demonstrated the same towards own and towards so-called enemies also. Krishna on the other hand in Gita espoused mass murder of own relatives for the settling of disputes.
    .
    According to Kedar Joshi

    Krishna alone is satanic (or evil)

    According to the Gita, it is Krishna who does everything, it is he who is responsible for every good as well as evil that exists in the world, and yet he proclaims to make it—the prospects of yoga—worse for evil people, asserts to annihilate miscreants, while contradictorily claiming to be the friend of every being. Krishna alone possesses free-will. Krishna alone creates delusion (or ignorance) and causes (unfathomable) suffering. Krishna—and Krishna alone—is evil.

    So, for example, the Gita in fact implies that it is Krishna who created Duryodhana, the Mahabharata’s arch-antagonist; it is Krishna who is the actual doer of each of his evil deeds; and it is Krishna, and only Krishna, who prearranged the dreadful Kurukshetra War.

    https://www.boloji.com/articles/12148/the-satanic-verses-of-bhagavad-gita

  79. Anonymous says:

    Which scripture does NOT advocate any of the following: Rape, hatred, slavery, female genital mutilation, murder, taking females captive, looting, injustice, inequality among humans, and animal killing?

    Only the Bhagavad-Gita.

    https://eternalreligion.org/the-seen-and-proven-god-is-only-one-lord-krishna/

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