Islam and Christianity- A Pagan view -I

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  1. why? says:

    Thanks to the Passive Observer. This post of yours has exposed the falsehood of the Bible and consequently strengthens the argument of author that christianity is falsehood.

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    1. In contrast to Quran, we find angle Gabriel appears to Mary with greetings. “Do not afraid Mary, you have found favour with God (Luke 1:30)
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    Just like Quran makes up fairy tales, so does babble here. Only 2 of the 4 gospels even mentions so called “virgin birth” of jeebus. Even in these goose-pells this “god of babble” forgets to mention this “miracle” of impending pregnancy to Joseph ahead of time. Joseph decides to divorce Mary and then magically in his dream (NOT in reality) an angel appears to Joseph and informs him of his wife’s magical “virgin birth”.

    NOTE: Joseph gets only a dream of angel after he decides to divorce Mary, while ONLY Mary sees the angel in reality. Ain’t this a fishy story weaved by adulterous Mary.

    Thanks Passive observer for making this very clear about the adulterous birth of Jeebus..

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    2. Jesus’ Good News was written not by one but by four people. Three were Jews and one was a non-Jew Luke, a physician.
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    So we have got four different liars..err…writers of goose-pells to be exact….

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    3. About forty ordinary people were inspired to write the Bible from different places and in three languages. Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic.
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    No wonder babble is truly babble of 40 different primitive people with no idea of what constitutes spirituality.

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    4. Abraham was called from the Sumerian city state Ur around 4000 years ago. Sumerian civilization was considered one of the earliest civilizations.
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    and so what…..this is an ancient fairy tale

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    5. Important parts of the Bible is translated into 2,200 languages and sold more than a billion copies.
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    so what…..Lies and fairy tales can be translated in many languages.

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    6. Koran was revealed to Mohamad for 23 years. After 12 years of preaching less than hundred people accepted him as a prophet. Thereafter he has to take the sword. Whereas Jesus preached only for three years. Thousands of people attended to his sermons. It was reported that many were marvelled at his speech.
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    Truth is not known from the number of people following. If the number of people is high, the possibility it is wrong is very high. It is only a handful of people in reality know the truth. This is why well accomplished scientists are few in number. This does not mean Muhammad is right either. Truth or falsehood is known only through examination, logic, experimentation and direct evidence. Christianity and Islam entirely is pure falsehood as it fails simple logical arguments.

  2. Thanks to the unknown author. This article has increased the credibility of the Bible and consequently increased my faith.
    1. In contrast to Quran, we find angle Gabriel appears to Mary with greetings. “Do not afraid Mary, you have found favour with God (Luke 1:30)
    2. Jesus’ Good News was written not by one but by four people. Three were Jews and one was a non-Jew Luke, a physician.
    3. About forty ordinary people were inspired to write the Bible from different places and in three languages. Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic.
    4. Abraham was called from the Sumerian city state Ur around 4000 years ago. Sumerian civilization was considered one of the earliest civilizations.
    5. Important parts of the Bible is translated into 2,200 languages and sold more than a billion copies.
    6. Koran was revealed to Mohamad for 23 years. After 12 years of preaching less than hundred people accepted him as a prophet. Thereafter he has to take the sword. Whereas Jesus preached only for three years. Thousands of people attended to his sermons. It was reported that many were marvelled at his speech.

  3. I have read the Koran cover to cover. It is easy to understand why the book was not arranged in chronological order. The Prophet, from time to time, consulted a Christian/Jewish scripture or Christian/Jewish people and formed his own opinion. For instance, he sensed that Jesus should be a great prophet and therefore Allah would not have allowed Jesus to die on a cross. Why the Meccan versus were comparatively good? Because he wanted to attract the Christians and the Jews. When they rejected him as a prophet Mohammad became furious and his Medina versus were very harsh towards Christians and Jews. These things indicate that Mohammad was a fraud.

  4. Archpagan says:

    Deuteronomy [18.19.20].: He will speak to his chosen people through His chosen prophets : “I will tell him what to say, and he will tell the people everything I command. He will speak in my name, and I will punish anyone who refuses to obey him”.
    The above constitutes the summary of the three Abrahamic religions. There is nothing religious here, only self-serving declaration of mafiosi leader. Abrahamic Monotheism is devoid of any spirituality. It’s only a strategy to utilize the name of God to loot and rule over people. All people should be ashamed and change their mindsets.

  5. Face_The_Truth says:

    Typographical Correction In My Previous Post-Reply:

    Christians love Muslims because Christianity and Islam are similar RELIGIONS of falsehoods, blood and gore.

  6. why? says:

    Ron says: “Christianity which is founded upon the teachings of Jesus was NEVER violent when preached and practised by Jesus and the apostles and even now.”
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    This is absolute lies….whatever be the teachings of this adultery born mamzer jeebus, christianity has been extremely violent on non-believers right from the time of christianity achieved ascendancy in terms of political power. Ron, being a christian is a patent liar.

    http://markhumphrys.com/christianity.killings.html

    The history shows that christianity and jeebus’ teachings are everything about violence only. Jeebus himself differentiates between an unbeliever (as enemy and filthy dog) and a believer (as a friend). Not one place jeebus condemns the numerous genocidal wars against unbelievers in old testament, or slavery. ALl these shows that whore born mamzer jeebus supports slavery, genocide, looting, sexual slavery etc. found in old testament.

  7. Face_The_Truth says:

    “Christianity which is founded upon the teachings of Jesus was NEVER violent when preached and practised by Jesus and the apostles and even now.”

    The above is an absolutely false statement if one looks into and studies merely 2000 years of Christian history.

    In fact, Christian history is so full of physical violence that Christianity’s idol — a dead Jew on the Gibbet — is as bloody as hell and the bloody Jew on the cross is blindly worshiped by Christians to this day all over the world.

    Blood and gore are as symbolic to Christianity as beheading and rape of non-believers are absolutely essential in the faith of Islam.

    Christianity was only rivaled by Islam in the history of mankind in terms of the systematic and institutional utilization of bloody violence to force all Pagans into believing in falsehoods.

    Pagans disbelieved in Christianity and Islam; so, Christians and Muslims united in the bloody rampage to murder all Pagans during the middle age.

    Pagan-temples were (are) turned into churches and mosques by Christians and Muslims throughout our known history and to this day.

    Medieval Christians did not finish the Crusades against medieval Muslims; because, medieval Christians wanted medieval Muslims to murder all Pagans first as every drop of Pagan blood was needed to fulfill the bloody “Sacraments” of Christianity.

    Christians love Muslims because Christianity and Islam are similar regions of falsehoods, blood and gore.

    From the very outset, Christianity was bloody and Pagan-blood was drawn wantonly in order to spread Christian falsehoods while Pagan-arts, Pagan-philosophies, Pagan-science, and Pagan-structures were incorporated into the false-belief-systems of Christianity everywhere Christians went.

  8. Ron says:

    Christianity which is founded upon the teachings of Jesus was NEVER violent when preached and practised by Jesus and the apostles and even now.

    Christianity as preached and practices by Jesus is not imperialism and does not look towards territorial expansion. The wars by monarchies and during imperialism were political and sometimes used or sparked by religion which has NEVER been advocated by Jesus or his disciples.

    Jesus’ teachings were very clear: Bless those who curse you. Bless your enemies. Take care of the sick, widows, orphans, crippled, lame, blind, destitute, poor and needy

  9. If there is a religion of love in this world it is Christianity. Even today there are millions of NGOs working for the betterment of humanity, including the services of 700,000 nuns each like Mother Theresa. 85% of good works in this world are done by them. 820 out of 850 Nobel laureates are influenced by the Bible.
    I agree that Christianity was violent when it was in the grip of monarchies; and it is not so after the separation of the Church and the state.

  10. Ron says:

    The Bible is the written by men who were Holy Spirit inspired over 1600 years. They have been recorded by witnesses and is NOT written by God. The Ten Commandments have been written by God,

    You have forgotten to mention that even the story of Jesus is written by Mathew, Mark, Luke and John and sometimes the description of the events differs slightly but the crux is the same.

    Even now when one event is reported by different news channels you will find the description different.
    If it was a forgery on a grand scale then they would take every precaution and see that every description matches word for word.

    If there is a difference in level of reporting or numerical estimates it is understandable as it is NOT God who is writing it down.

    The quran on the other hand is supposed to be spoken verbatim by God.

  11. There are thousands of contradictions in the Bible – hundreds deal with mathematics. Read this full debate of William Campbell & Zakir Naik. You will see many errors in the Bible, contradictions, absurdities. http://www.faithfreedom.org/debates/NaikCampbellp9.htm

    It is mentioned in Ezra, Ch. No.2, Verse No.1, and Nehemiah, Ch. No.7, Verse No.6, the context that… ‘When the people returned from exile, from Babylon , when king Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon, when he released the men from Israel , they came back from captivity’ – and the list of the people are given. The list is given in Ezra, Ch. No.2, Verse No.2 to 63, and Nehemiah Ch. No.7, Verse No.7 up to 65; the list is given with the names as well as number of people released. In these 60 Verses there are no less than 18 contradictions in less than 60 Verses, of these two Chapters.

    The author of the Bible, presumed to be ‘Almighty God’, does not know simple addition. If you give this problem, even to a person who has passed elementary school, he will be able to get the right answer. If you add up all the 60 Verses, it is so easy. Almighty God did not know adding – Nauzubillah… if we presume, that this is the word of God. Why should an idolatrous pagan Hindu or Buddhist accept Christianity when he can see hundreds of errors in the Bible, which will not be committed even by learned men, not to talk of God?

    Further if we read, in Ezra Ch. No. 2, Verse No. 65, it says…There were 200 singing men and women – Nehemiah Ch. No. 7, Verse No. 67…‘There were 245 singing men and women.’ Were they 200 – or were they 245 singing men and women? Context is the same – A mathematical contradiction.

    It is mentioned in the 2nd Kings , Ch. No 24, Verse No 8, that…‘Jehoiachin was 18 years old, when he began to reign Jerusalem , and he reigned for 3 months and 10 days. 2nd Chronicles , Ch. No 36, Verse No 9, says that…‘Jehoiachin was 8 years old when he began to reign and he reigned for 3 months, 10 days. Was Jehoiachin 18 years when he began to reign, or was he 8 years old? Did he reign for 3 months, or did he reign for 3 months 10 days?

    Further it is mentioned in the 1st Kings , Ch. No 7, Verse No 26, that…‘In Solomon’s temple, in his molten sea, he had 2000 baths. In 2nd Chronicles , Ch. No 4, Verse No 5, he had 3000 baths. Did he have 2000 baths or did he have 3000 baths?

    Furthermore it is mentioned in the 1st Kings, Ch. No. 15, Verse No. 33, that… ‘Basha, he died in the 26th year of reign of Asa.’ And 2nd Chronicles Ch. No 16, Verse No 1, says that…‘Basha invaded Judah in the 36th years of the reign of Asa.’ How can Basha invade 10 years after his death? – It is unscientific

    There are errors in reporting the numbers in the Bible – clear proof that it is not the verbatim word of God.

    Bible says in Genesis Ch. No. 1 Verses No. 3 and 5,…‘Light was created on the first day.’ Genesis , Ch. , 1 Verses, 14 to 19… ‘The cause of light – stars and the sun, etc. was created on the fourth day’. How can the cause of light be created on the 4th day – later than the light which came into existence on the first day? – It is unscientific.

    Bible says Genesis, Ch. 1, Verses 9 to 13… ‘Earth was created on the 3rd day. How can you have a night and day without the earth? The day depends upon the rotation of the Earth Without the earth created, how can you have a night and day?

    Genesis , Ch. No. 1 Verses 9 to 13 says… ‘Earth was created on the third day.’ Genesis Ch. No. 1 Verses 14 to 19 says…‘The Sun and the Moon were created on the fourth day.’ Today science tells us… ‘Earth is part of the parent body… the sun.’ It cannot come into existence before the sun – It is unscientific.

    The Bible says in Genesis, Ch. No.1, Verse No. 11 to 13…‘The vegetation, the herbs the shrubs, the trees – they were created on the 3rd day And the Sun, Genesis, Ch. No. 1, Verses. 14 to 19, was created on the 4th day. How can the vegetation come into existence without sunlight, and how can they survive without sunlight?

    It is mentioned in the Bible, in the book of Hebrews, Ch. No.1 Verses No.10 and 11, and the book of Psalms, Ch. No.102, Verse No.25 and 26, that…‘Almighty God created the Heavens and the Earth, and they will perish.’ Exactly opposite is mentioned in the book of Ecclesiastics, Ch. No.1, Verse No.4, and the book of Psalms, Ch. No.78, Verse No.69, that… ‘The earth will abide forever.’ One has to be unscientific – Both cannot take place. The world cannot abide forever as well as perish – It is unscientific.

    How can any idolatrous pagan accept The Bible as the Word of God when it contains so many blunders? Remember, no book is written by God. If the Quran is not the word of God due to mistakes (more than 3000 mistakes) the same applies to the Bible. The books of Hindus, Sikhs are not not written by God, but are written by men. Once you accept this, you will learn to be more tolerant of others, particularly of pagans like Hindus.

  12. Ron says:

    The Bible is a collection of books (66) written by men and is Holy Spirit inspired.

    The Bible is not a science book, yet it is scientifically accurate. I am not aware of any scientific evidence that contradicts the Bible. We have listed statements on this page that are consistent with known scientific facts. Many of them were listed in the Bible hundreds or even thousands of years before being recorded elsewhere.

    The Bible is the ONLY scripture that says earth is spherical. It is the only scripture that starts from the creation of man till Jesus and beyond to the future.
    There are many but I am listing a few here.

    • The Bible described the shape of the earth centuries before people thought that the earth was spherical.
    Isaiah 40:22

    It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
    And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
    Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain,
    And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.
    The word translated “circle” here is the Hebrew word chuwg which is also translated “circuit,” or “compass” (depending on the context). That is, it indicates something spherical, rounded, or arched—not something that is flat or square.
    The book of Isaiah was written sometime between 740 and 680 BC. This is at least 300 years before Aristotle suggested that the earth might be a sphere in this book On the Heavens.
    Statements Consistent With Hydrology
    • The bible includes reasonably complete descriptions of the hydrologic cycle.[3]
    Psalm 135:7
    He causes the vapors to ascend from the ends of the earth;
    He makes lightning for the rain;
    He brings the wind out of His treasuries.

    Jeremiah 10:13
    When He utters His voice,
    There is a multitude of waters in the heavens:
    “And He causes the vapors to ascend from the ends of the earth.
    He makes lightning for the rain,
    He brings the wind out of His treasuries.”
    In these verses you can see several phases of the hydrologic cycle—the worldwide processes of evaporation, translation aloft by atmospheric circulation, condensation with electrical discharges, and precipitation.[1]
    Job 36:27-29
    For He draws up drops of water,
    Which distill as rain from the mist,
    Which the clouds drop down
    And pour abundantly on man.
    Indeed, can anyone understand the spreading of clouds,
    The thunder from His canopy?
    This simple verse has remarkable scientific insight. The drops of water which eventually pour down as rain first become vapor and then condense to tiny liquid water droplets in the clouds. These finally coalesce into drops large enough to overcome the updrafts that suspend them in the air.[1]
    • The Bible describes the recirculation of water.
    Ecclesiastes 1:7
    All the rivers run into the sea,
    Yet the sea is not full;
    To the place from which the rivers come,
    There they return again.

    Isaiah 55:10
    For as the rain comes down, and the snow from heaven,
    And do not return there,
    But water the earth,
    And make it bring forth and bud,
    That it may give seed to the sower
    And bread to the eater,

    • The Bible refers to the surprising amount of water that can be held as condensation in clouds.
    Job 26:8
    He binds up the water in His thick clouds,
    Yet the clouds are not broken under it.

    Job 37:11
    Also with moisture He saturates the thick clouds;
    He scatters His bright clouds.

    • Hydrothermal vents[4] are described in two books of the Bible written before 1400BC—more than 3,000 years before their discovery by science.
    Genesis 7:11
    In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

    Job 38:16
    Have you entered the springs of the sea?
    Or have you walked in search of the depths?
    This brings up an important historical note related to this topic. Many people are aware of the conflict between Galileo and the Roman Catholic Pope, Paul V. After publishing A Dialogue on the Two Principal Systems of the World, Galileo was summoned to Rome, where he was forced to renounce his findings. (At that time, “theologians” of the Roman Catholic Church maintained that the Earth was the center of the universe, and to assert otherwise was deemed heretical.)
    We could not find any place in the Bible that claims that the Earth is flat, or that it is the center of the universe. History shows that this conflict, which took place at the time of the Inquisition, was part of a power struggle. As a result, scientific and biblical knowledge became casualties—an effect we still feel to this day.

  13. @Ron, to prove Jesus as the only way to reach God, you should not give examples of conversions of some people to Christianity. There are many examples of conversions to Hinduism from Christianity (e.g. Margaret Noble who was the daughter of a Christian preacher, who converted to Hinduism and called herself Bhagini Nivedita i.e. Sister Nivedita), many of born Muslims converting to Hinduism in places like Palestine after realizing Krishna (ISKCON- International Society for Krishna Consciousness), born Muslims converting to Hinduism after rediscovering the Vedic heritage (e.g. Anwar Sheikh) etc, Muslims converting to Christianity especially in places in Africa and countries like Iran, and of course, Christians converting to Islam in Europe & USA. A report says that 1,00,000 White British, mainly girls have converted to Islam in UK till now.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1343954/100-000-Islam-converts-living-UK-White-women-keen-embrace-Muslim-faith.html

    You can see celebrities converting to Islam. Cassius Clay the boxer became Muhammad Ali, another basketball player of USA became Karim Abdul Jabbar, South African cricketer Wayne Parnell has also converted to Islam and many such instances. They do not show anything of the truth of any religion.

    If Christianity is true which you are trying to show, you should give evidence that the Bible is a Word of God. What is there in the Bible which proves by its contents that it is from God? What about the mistakes in the Bible- contradictions, and facts totally contrary to modern knowledge? Prove the truth of Christianity, giving examples of conversions of others doesn’t prove anything. A great scholar Sitaram Goel has written a book: “Why I became a Hindu” from a staunch anti-Hindu Communist which he once was. This converted ex-Communist turned out to be one of the greatest Hindu scholars in the 1980s and 1990s.

  14. Ron says:

    Typo: The Jaffna hospital massacre happened in 1987
    Typo: India lost some of its territory to Pakistan but gained some territory from Pakistan in 1965 (was stalemate).
    Also pls read

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquests_on_the_Indian_subcontinent

    Muslim conquests on the Indian subcontinent mainly took place from the 12th to the 16th centuries, though earlier Muslim conquests made limited inroads into modern Afghanistan and Pakistan as early as the time of the Rajput kingdoms in the 8th century. With the establishment of the Delhi Sultanate, Islam spread across large parts of the subcontinent. In 1204, Bakhtiar Khilji led the Muslim conquest of Bengal, marking the eastern-most expansion of Islam at the time.

    Prior to the rise of the Maratha Empire, which was followed by the conquest of India by the British East India Company, the Muslim Mughal Empire was able to annex or subjugate most of India’s kings. However, it was never able to conquer the kingdoms in upper reaches of the Himalayas such as the regions of today’s Himachal Pradesh, Uttarakhand, Sikkim, Nepal and Bhutan; the extreme south of India, such as Travancore and Tamil Nadu; and in the east, such as the Ahom kingdom in Assam.

    The British defeated and controlled not only the former Muslims captured/controlled areas but also subjugated the Hindu kings of Himachal Pradesh, Uttarakhand, Sikkim, Nepal (One-third of Nepal after the last Anglo-
    Gorka war) and Bhutan; the extreme south of India, such as Travancore and Tamil Nadu; and in the east, such as the Ahom kingdom in Assam.

  15. Face_The_Truth says:

    This message is for Ron_the_Christian:

    Then, now why don’t you LEAVE India and go and preach your Jesus Christ in Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Myanmar, Shri Lanka, Saudi Arabia, and the Islamic Republic of Iran instead?

  16. Ron says:

    Unknown Scholar you are reading from distorted pages of History.

    When you look at the map of present day India it is obvious that British captured more territory from Hindus than from Muslims. But when you look at undivided Indian sub-continent, you will see that British controlled Afghanistan, Pakistan, Kashmir, Bangladesh, Burma including the (Rohingya part of Burma), Maldives, Moorish Sri Lanka.

    You could travel these entire areas without a passport and use rupees or pounds during the British Colonial period.
    These formal Muslim areas were once ruled by Hindus and the population was mix of either Hindu/Buddhist/Sikh or Jain.

    It is fallacious to think that Hindus could stop Islam. India lost one-third of it areas during the first partition of 1947 and during the partition of Bengal in 1905. India further lost one-third of Kashmir to Pakistan in 1948. India lost some of its territory to Pakistan but gained some territory from Pakistan.

    India lost territory to China in 1962. In 1971 India defeated Pakistan and helped in liberating Bangladesh, but NEVER gained any territory in the end. (as India returned captured territory at Shimla talks).

    In 2015 Nepal gave China MFN (Most favored nation) status which never happened before in history as this land-locked country was protected and supplied by India. This was because India (BJP) tried to interfere and tried to make the new Nepalese constitution a Hindu constitution.

    The IPKF in Sri Lanka were forced to withdraw after IPKF did rapes and the Jaffna hospital massacre in 1967.
    Right now the situation in Kashmir has been the worst in history and it is a matter of time when Kashmir will separate or become part of Pakistan. All Hindus have run out of cowardice from the Kashmir valley. The only minority still there are Christians who are bravely doing evangelising and missionary work.

    Surprisingly this Indian Government is not stopping the Christian missionaries from carrying out welfare, social activities and evangelising in Kashmir. Maybe they know that it easier to deal with soft Christians then with Muslims who resort to violence easily.

  17. @Zakariya, You are free to believe any religion & in Jesus, but you are incorrect on facts when you say Hindus lost to Islam. Infact, it is the Hindus who resisted the onslaught of Arabs for over 2 centuries unlike regions West & North of Arabia, which succumbed immediately. It took over 570 years for Islam to gain a victory in heartland India (636-1206 AD). It took further 320 years before the Mughal empire could be established in 1526. It was only in 1600 that a stable empire could be established in India under the rule of Akbar which also perished after a century, within a decade of Aurangazeb’s death in 1707 AD. The Marathas, Rajputs, Jats and Sikhs (All Hindus, or at least non-Muslims) ended the Muslim rule in India. The Hindus were ultimately successful after the 1100+ year battle with Islam.

    The British captured most of India from the Hindus and only some parts from Muslims. For the true history, read this article. See the maps of India to see how much the Hindus reconquered.
    http://historyofmuslimattacks.blogspot.in/2013/02/islam-in-india-history.html

    The British have, as is usual for them, distorted history by calling the period of the Turkish rule in India as the Muslim Period (instead of Turkish Period) and claiming that they captured power from them. By the same logic the European period should also have been called as the Christian Period! Again most of the important conquests of the British of the cities of Delhi, Agra, Lahore and Peshawar, and the bulk of the territory were from Marathas, Sikhs and other non-Muslim rulers. Only the regions in Karnataka, Tamilnadu, Andhra, Bengal, Bihar, Sindh and middle and eastern Uttar Pradesh were captured from the Muslim rulers.

    But ultimately Hindus in spite of their valour could not prevent the Muslim invaders from running over India for some centuries. Many reasons can be given for this. The greatest fault lies in them not studying the scriptures and psychology of the invaders which would have given a clue to their behaviour. Hindus’ standards of ethical warfare were not reciprocated by the invaders. When they lost, they were magnanimously pardoned and allowed to go back. But they used the reprieve only to regroup and attack treacherously again. Hindus never understood that treachery was an intrinsic feature of their religion (Islam) practiced by no less a person than their prophet. Unfortunately this lacunae still persists even today. Hindus also always fought defensively that is only when they were attacked and then too it was each king for himself. Their intelligence was inadequate if not absent (except during the rule of Shivaji and his successors, the Maratha rulers from 1664 to 1818, and during the Vijaynagar empire (1336-1565 AD), both of which kept strong intelligence) and the enemy could always spring an element of surprise leaving no time for the rulers to equip themselves adequately. The Hindus also lacked skills of military organisation, a forte of Muslims. Never did the Hindu rulers, even after convincing victories adopt an aggressive posture and take the trouble of uniting their forces and drive out the invaders once for all from the subcontinent and then fortifying the borders. Other shortcomings were excess of superstition, lack of adequate espionage and not keeping the military machine up-to-date.

    In modern times, the Hindus lost to Islam in the 20th century, were unable to prevent partition and lost a large territory in Pakistan & Bangladesh. That was due to supporting incompetent and failed leaders like Gandhi who said on record on 6 April 1947: “If the Muslims want to kill us all, we should face death bravely” [CWMG Vol. 94 page 249] He also sat on fast onto death to make Indian Govt give Rs 550 million, half the treasury to Pakistan in 1947 even after Pakistan attacked Kashmir. He did this with the hope of getting the Noble Prize for Peace. Hindus’ failure in the 20th century doesn’t make Islam or Christianity as true or Hinduism as reprehensible. Hindus also won 1965 & 1971 wars against Pakistan. As a matter of fact, Europe is losing to Islam with Muslims dominating, imposing Shariah laws on the locals. Even in USA, they are regularly killing now, like Orlondo shootings and other bombings. Hindus have a far better experience of dealing with Islam. They have been much more successful in dealing with it in Kashmir.

  18. Zakariya says:

    Islam has eaten Hinduism. Sliced India into three pieces (India, Pakistan and Bangladesh). Hinduism was unable to defend Islam and end it. It submitted to Islam and still is in submission. Muslims are increasing in India each day. And Hindus are decreasing in Muslim dominated Bangladesh and already none in Pakistan. Only Christianity can STOP Islam. The Crusaders, 1000 years ago, forced Islam out from Europe and saved today’s time. Otherwise, it would have been a Muslim States of America and Muslim Union (EU?) at this time when we are talking democracy and freedom of speech and what not. I am not a Catholic and I have disagreement with many of their teachings. But, I am against division of Christians. Catholic belief in Jesus as God and the ‘only’ saviour and so do I. This is where ‘all Christians’ are one.

    Christ is the ‘only’ way. My God Jesus Christ has ordered me to ‘love’ my neighbours and even my enemies. So, I ‘should not’ hate Muslims and Hindus although they blaspheme about my Lord everyday in their life knowingly and unknowingly.

    I know and confident that when needed only the Christians will save the humanity. None atheist, no humanist or any Hindus or Buddhist will fight and are fighting the Islam, only Christians are. In the next crusade with Islam, the Christians will go and fight and will die to save the humanity again from the demons so that after the war is over the atheist, humanist, new ages, Hindus and Buddhists etc. can sit together with snacks and coffees and teas under the bright sunlight in peace and ‘discuss’ their ideologies and brain-storm and bash Christ and Christianity. Why not?

    Off course, Christ is God, he died for my sins in the cross and he resurrected. Anyone disagree with this is wrong.

  19. Face_The_Truth says:

    Every literate Christian should read the following books in order to understand Christianity very properly in historical contexts.

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    William Benjamin Smith, “Ecce Deus: Studies of Primitive Christianity”, London, 1912

    l. Gordon Rylands, “Did Jesus Ever Live?”, Watts & Co., London, 1929

    Will Durant, “The Story of Civilization, Part III, Caesar and Christ”, Fourth Printing, New York, 1944

    Paul Johnson, “A History of Christianity”, Penguin Books, London, 1978

    Michael Arnhem, “Is Christianity True?”, London, 1984

    Ian Wilson, “Jesus: The Evidence”, Pan Books, 1985

    George Albert Wells, “Did Jesus Exist?”, Second Edition, London, 1986

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    LINK

    http://www.drabruzzi.com/ZINDLER-JESUS.PDF

    LINK

    https://orphicplatonism.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/jesus-christ-an-artifice-for-aggression-by-sita-ram-goel.pdf

  20. Walter Sieruk says:

    In classical work of ancient Greek literature, by Plato, entitled THE APOLOGY OF SOCRATES it in written that Socrates had said that “An unexamined life is not worth living.” Likewise, in may also be said that “An unexamined religion is not worth believing in.” This is said about all religions. Yet to be specific, in this case, the topic is about the religion of Islam. Furthermore, one man who was as a former a Muslim and had lived in one of the Islamic nations of the Middle East but now he is Christian and an American citizen had explained in a book he wrote that “Driving into depths of the word of reasoned thinking and research in Islamic societies has always been costly. Some Muslim who have done this have even been excluded from their social rights and even sentenced to death.” [1]

    [1] ISLAM AND THE SON OF GOD by Daniel Shayesteh page 70.

  21. Walter Sieruk says:

    The Greek philosopher Plato is one of the contributors to Western Civilization. He may shed some light into the subject of those people who are shackled in the chains and darkness of Islamic thought. In Plato’s REPUBLIC he gave an allegory of a cave where “the condition of men living in a sort of cavernous chamber…Here they have been from childhood, chained by leg and also by the neck, so that they cannot move and see only what is in front of them.” This can fit into what the Imams do in the mosques and how they brainwash the young people in the madrassa’s by always programming Islamic doctrine into their victims and not exposing them to other worldviews. Furthermore, even in Islamic tradition when Muslims have their newborn child the father whispers words of the Quran into the infants ear so that that Quran verses are the first thing the newborn person hears. This programming process takes place all their lives. These are some of the chains that keep them bound in a mosque [cave]. The chains do not let them reach out for dialectic reasoning and let them examine the evidence both for as well as against, or even question whether Muhammad was a true prophet of God or not, and if the Quran is a hoax or not. As the chains and darkness of the cave blinds and holds the prisoners back from reality, so Islamic propaganda holds back the cognition to reason with the question if Islam is true or not. They are forbidden from even thinking to question Islam. Furthermore, if a Muslim by some miracle wakes up to the truth about Islam, it would be like the man in Plato’s cave allegory who was released from his chains and taken outside to the real world. At first direct light would be painful and disorienting, it would take some time for him to understand what the truth is all about, he even might cling to the shadows and still for a time believe some of the illusions to be real. But he would finally come to know “what he had formerly seen was meaningless illusion.” And that was “what passed for wisdom in his former dwelling-place.”And that the other cave prisoners also needed to see the light [the truth] for he “was sorry for them.” and he would re-enter the cave just to rescue them. Nevertheless, the cave prisoners wouldn’t understand and “if they could lay hand on the man who was trying to set them free.” And if they could “they would kill him.” Likewise, when someone escapes from the shackles of Islam, those still in the darkness of this religion would not understand and if possible kill him for leaving Islam, and even more so if he were to try to enlighten them about the truth about Islam. For these people in Islam are chained to an empty imitation of truth and godliness.

  22. Richard says:

    The author seems very aware of the faults Christianity of the West in the second millennium but perhaps has overlooked the Christianity of the East and of the first millennium. The so called “modern non-violent Christianity” is actually less so than the original nonviolent Christianity.

    Please read this article to get an insight into the true core of Christianity in its first thousand years. St Isaac makes quite a contrast with Mohammed – even thought they were almost contemporaries.

    http://www.wacom2017.org/sites/wacom2017.org/IMG/pdf/Bishop_Hilarion_Alfeyev.pdf

    The violence of Roman Catholicism and later protestantism – often against each other – is an aberration from the middle years of the faith.

  23. Walter Sieruk says:

    This above article starts with is a sentence that, in part,reads about “people who have blind faith…” My two first postings information was given from men who are Christians who studied Islam along with a relevant Bible verse. In contrast this posting is from intelligent men form American history who were not Christians. They ,nevertheless, still had wisdom about “people who have blind faith.” Which is explained in the following essay.

    Concerning the subject of Islamic suicide/homicide – bombers /attackers: They are so thoroughly brainwashed and deluded that they actually think of their murderous actions as “martyrdom operations.” This jihad evil and madness is based on the Koranic doctrine, 9:111. , of a far-fetched and nonsensical doctrine of a sex- filled paradise with many virgins, hours, in it for the use only the jihadist/Muslim male who dies as a “martyr” fighting for the cause of Islam. This weird religious/Islamic teaching is found contained the Koran in 44:56. .55:56. 78:31. This bizarre and odd, irrational Koranic doctrine is not open, to the jihadist, to inquiry, questioning. logic or reason. So this blind unreasoning kind of “faith” in the Koran is a reminder that Thomas Jefferson had written. “Man, once surrendering his reason, has no remaining guard against absurdities the most monstrous, and like a ship without a rudder, is the sport of every wind. With such persons, gullibility, which they call faith, takes helm from the hand of reason and the mind becomes a wreck.” Likewise, Benjamin Franklin had printed in POOR RICHARD’S ALMANACK something which may apply to this topic. For Mr. Franklin had printed “The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason.”

  24. Walter Sieruk says:

    On the topic of Islam and its god Allah and the links of the two with paganism . The following does apply.

    The God of the Bible is not really Allah the god of Islam. To explain, through the passing of time it has become widely accepted that the word “Allah” is just the Arabic word for God. This started when truth compromising Bible “translators” substituted the word Allah where the word God should have had been uses in the Arabic translation of the Bible. Furthermore, in the glossary in the book ASSASSINS! By Dr. Haha Lung it defines Allah as the “Pre-Islamic Lunar god : the god of Islam. “ Likewise, in the book entitled INSIDE ISLAM by a former Muslim who is now a Christian, Reza F. Safa on pages 22, 23 it reads “In pre-Islamic times both Allah –worship and Baal-worship involved the worship of the sun, the moon and the stars which h defines them as astral religions. [Which are condemned in the Bible, Second Kings 23:5] The crescent moon, which was the symbol of moon worship, is also the symbol of Islam.” In conclusion the Islamic god, Allah, is not the God of the Bible.

    The words in brackets are my own. In addition other some other books that expose this little known truths are WHO IS THIS ALLAH ? by G..J.O.. Moshay also UNVEILING ISLAM by Ergun Mehmet caner and Emir Fethi Caner and THE ISLAMIC INVASION by Robert Morey . There is also PHILISTINE by Ramon Bennett

  25. Walter Sieruk says:

    First, In the Bible it gives the account of the Prophet Elijah declared “If the Lord is God, follow Him; but if Baal be ,then follow him.” First Kings 18:21.[N.K.J.V.] In other words follow one of the other. Not both.
    Second, many people say that the God of the Bible and the god of Islam are one the same. Is the majority always right? That’s not always the case. As an example the Christian pastor and scholar, Michael Youssef, who is also an Arab in his book entitled JESUS, JIHAD AND PEACE on page 69 informs the reader that “The name Allah comes from pre-Islamic times, and it corresponds to the Babylonian mane Bel or Baal. According to the Middle East scholar E.M. Wherry, pre-Islamic Arabs worshiped gods they called Allah. Both pre-Islamic Allah-worship and Baal –worship involved worship of the sun, the moon and the stars, which is why they are called astral religions. The crescent moon, the symbol of pagan moon worship, is also the symbol of Islam. It is printed on flags of many Islamic countries and placed atop minarets and mosques.” Likewise, a former Muslim who is now a Christian, Dr. Daniel Shayesteh, who used to live in the Middle East but now he lives in America . In his book ISLAM AND THE SON OF GOD. On pages 7,8. Reads “Allah is the generic term for God in many Middle –Eastern cultures. Allah is identified as one of the 360 or so idols worshiped by the Arabian people for centuries before Muhammad was born. Many do not know that Allah was the good god of the Arabians. This explains the crescent moon found on minarets and mosques and the flags of Muslim nations. .. .Historic writings also identify Allah with Baal.” It’s also worth mentioning that the Bible condemns such astral religions. As in, for example, Second Kings 23:5.
    Therefore, now in modern times, it may be rightly said “If Yahweh Lord of the Bible , be the one True God follow Him. Yet if Allah the lord of Islam be the one true god then follow him.” The case is very clear cut.

  26. No Pointing says:

    If you accept Jesus is Lord God in your heart, He will send you the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit will bring your soul to God’s paradise after you die.

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