Introducing The Holy Quran – by Eric Allen Bell

Eric Allen Bell

Eric Allen Bell is a writer, filmmaker and Media Consultant, presently living in New York, NY. While making a documentary about the construction of a 53,000 square foot mega mosque in Murfreesboro, TN he attempted to expose “Islamophobia”. Once he stated that Islam was the biggest threat to human rights in the world today, he was banned from the writing Daily Kos and MichaelMoore.com, after LoonWatch.com created a petition to silence him. His article, “The High Price of Telling the Truth About Islam” has been widely circulated and has caused several Liberals to rethink how they look at the Religion of Peace. CHECK OUT MY BLOG AT: http://www.EricAllenBell.com

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  1. continuum says:

    Ron says:
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    He died for our sins.
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    continued….

    Now, I am appalled as to why christians cannot see the stupidity of this claim.

    Here almighty God has to merely suspend His judgment in order to save humanity and yet He demands a suicidal torturous bloody sacrifice to save humanity. Is this God unable to forgive without bloody painful torturous sacrifices? What does it say about this God except He is a sadistic violent fellow. Hence this belief is inconsistent with a belief in a perfect almighty God.

    To trump it, christians believe that mamzer jeebus is also god Himself or equal person with god the father. This is even worse, for here one person of god is satisfied by a bloody suicidal ritual sacrifice of another person of god. Here, the persons of god is shown to be a sado-masochist.

    Sadomasochism is the giving or receiving pleasure from acts involving the receipt or infliction of pain or humiliation.

    Mamzer jeebus is definitely a sado-masochist, for he thinks his torturous death will save others and thereby receives pleasure or satisfaction.

    god the father is also another sado-masochist for he receives satisfaction by giving punishment and inflicting pain to god the son. Thus god the father forgives his own creation after being satisfied through infliting torturous pain and death to his son.

    CLEARLY, THE TRINITY OF CHRISTIANITY IS A SADO-MASOCHIST BUNCH OF THREE…NOT LOGICALLY CONSISTENT WITH A BELIEF IN A PERFECT almighty God.

    HENCE MAMZER JEEBUS’ BELIEF AND CHRISTIAN BELIEF IS ILLOGICAL AND IMPOSSIBLE TO BE TRUE AS IT IS LOGICALLY INCONSISTENT. This proves christianity is a false belief based on suicidal delusional belief of a mental retard mamzer jeebus and no matter how many so called witnesses Ron posts, it still remains a falsehood ONLY.

  2. continuum says:

    Ron says:
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    He died for our sins.
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    THE FOUNDATION OF CHRISTIANITY IS BASED ON SUICIDAL BEHAVIOR..Mamzer jeebus is a suicidal delusional mental retard…

    BOOK Title: “Suicide by Cop: Committing Suicide by Provoking Police to Shoot You”

    Authors: By Mark Lindsay, David Lester

    “Karin Andriolo (1998) has described a number of cultures in which people commit suicide by getting other to kill them…………**This method of committing suicide has been called indirect suicide, vicarious suicide, or masked suicide. Masked suicide is a public performance, and therefore, a public property.** The suicide conforms to the cultural norms and values and thus confirms them. **The suicidal person of this type also does not act impulsively, but rather seeks a cause, and the scenario offers solemnity, symbolism, and purpose. The ritual induces control and calmness in the suicide.**”

    WHAT JEEBUS DID IS INDIRECT SUICIDE AS PER ABOVE DEFINITION. INSTEAD OF SUICIDE BY COP, JEEBUS COMMITTED SUICIDE BY ROMAN SOLDIERS. The symbolism of jeebus’ death is sacrificial lamb, purpose is saving the world from sins…..Jeebus knew he will die and yet did not escape death….This is suicidal behavior clearly…

    GOSPEL VERSES AS EVIDENCE FOR JEEBUS PLANNING SUICIDE FOR LONG TIME

    John 10:15 Young’s Literal Translation

    according as the Father doth know me, and I know the Father, and my life I lay down for the sheep,

    John 10:11

    “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.

    John 10:17

    The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life–only to take it up again.

    John 10:18

    No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”

    THESE VERSES CLEARLY SHOW THAT JEEBUS WAS PLANNING INDIRECT SUICIDE THROUGH RITUAL SACRIFICE, SUICIDE BY ROMAN SOLDIERS. JEEBUS SIMPLY MASKED HIS SUICIDE WITH GRANDIOSE CLAIMS WHICH IS TYPICAL FOR PEOPLE WHO COMMIT INDIRECT SUICIDE.

    Now lets see if SUICIDAL RITUAL is consistent with the belief in a perfect almighty God.

    A perfect almighty God can be though of to have the following attributes.

    1. Omniscience
    2. Absolute independence in any act
    3. No defects like human beings have jealousy or making mistakes or being a mental retard or one with mentl disorders.

    Being a perfect almighty God, He is

    1. Sole judge
    2. sole Jury
    3. Sole executioner of punishment and rewards.

    Being so, whom did this God want to convince to forgive his own creation through this ghastly bloody suicidal sacrifice of mamzer jeebus?

    Only Himself.

    So the christian claim is that a perfect almighty God, in order to convince Himself to forgive His own creation, sacrificed allegedly His so called son, the mamzer jeebus to save the humanity from His own judgment.

    Now, I am appalled as to why christians cannot see the stupidity of this…

  3. continuum says:

    Ron says:
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    He died for our sins.
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    Mamzer jeebus’ suicidal death cannot pay for anybody’s sins, including the sins of mamzer jeebus himself. Mamzer jeebus dies in vain for the following reasons..

    1. Mamzer jeebus is sinful himself, because

    a.) as noted before he is born through adultery…see my arguments in support of this position below. A mamzer is sinful as per ur own bible..

    A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
    — Deuteronomy 23:2

    b.) Mamzer jeebus has laid the seeds of hatred against Jews and non-believers and is responsible for all the genocide carried out by christians against Jews and non-believers throughout history through inquisition etc. Again see my post below in support of my argument.

    Hence, a sinful person, like mamzer jeebus, cannot help other sinners, just like a person fallen in a deep well cannot hope to save others fallen in other deep wells.

    2.It is illogical to claim that suicide by somebody can help anybody. Mamzer jeebus, out of delusion that he is son of some demon god, imagined his death would save somebody. This is a delusional mental retard.

    The christian theory is that mamzer jeebus is almighty god. Hence, in this christian framework, mamzer jeebus is the sole judge, jury and executor. Whom does almighty god need to convince to forgive his creation, except himself? Under this assumption (making an ass out of people), jeebus accepted suicidal torture on himself (suicide by Roman soldiers) in order to convince himself to forgive his own creation. Why would an almighty god kill himself in order to convince himself to forgive his own creation? This is the height insanity….No sane man can believe in this sort absurd foolish suicidal god theories.

    he christian theory is that mamzer jeebus is almighty god. Hence mamzer jeebus is the sole judge, jury and executor. Whom does almighty god need to convince to forgive his creation, except himself? Under this assumption (making an ass out of people), jeebus accepted suicidal torture on himself (suicide by Roman soldiers) in order to convince himself to forgive his own creation. Why would an almighty god kill himself in order to convince himself to forgive his own creation? This is the height insanity….No sane man can believe in this sort absurd foolish theories.

  4. continuum says:

    Ron says:
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    You will NEVER find any evil in the teachings of Jesus.
    Jesus NEVER sinned. Period.
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    2. Second, mamzer Jeebus was born in sin through adulterous SEXUAL INTERCOURSE of Mary, jeebus’ mother.

    1. Mamzer jeebus has 9 months gestation period like any other normal child. Why would God who allegedly made adulterous mary pegnant miraculously could not do miracle of making 9 month gestation period disappear? This is a valid question. Why only conception is miraculous, while there are no other miracles in gestation period or mamzer jeebus’ actual birth process?

    Clearly human sperm is involved in conception of adulterous mary leading to her 9 month gestation period for only human sperm leads to 9 months gestation period. This is clear pointer to adultery of mary and illicit borth of jeebus.

    2. Why angels appeared ONLY to Mary face to face and informed her about her conception? Clearly mary weaved a story to hde her illicit sexual contacts..

    3. Why angels did not appear to Joseph earlier and inform him about Mary’s pregnancy? It is after Joseph’s decision to divorce adulterous mary did angels appear ONLY in a dream (NOT face to face)? Why? These claims are clearly suspicious. Joseph simply lied to hide illicit sexual intercourse of mary in order to avoid stoning.

    All the above points clearly show that mamzer jeebus was born through adultery ONLY. Only demonic natured souls are born through adultery and even your bible agrees that a mamzer is sinful.

    A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
    — Deuteronomy 23:2

  5. continuum says:

    Ron says:
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    You will NEVER find any evil in the teachings of Jesus.
    Jesus NEVER sinned. Period.
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    1. On the contrary, it is demonic bastard hypocrite jeebus who laid the seeds of anti-semitism (sowing seeds of hatred against jews, example of evil) and is responsible for all the genocide committed (evil again, his teachings against Jews as sons of satan lead to genocide of jews for last 2000 years) against Jews in history.

    Demon son jeebus calls Jews as sons of devil, sowing seeds of Jew hatred…..name calling…

    “Ye are of your father the devil and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And I say the truth, why do you not believe me? He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God” (John 8.43-47)

    Jeebus wishes death and torture for his enemies, the jews…Bastard jeebus wishes eternal hell for jews….so much for love…

    “The children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” (Matthew 8.12)

    Bastard Jeebus calls Jews as the murderers of prophets, just like QURAN CALLS the Jews

    “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets and stonest them that are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold your house is left unto you desolate.” (Matthew 23.37,38) Then answered all the people (Jews) and said, “His blood be on us and on our children” (Matthew 27:25). 1 “But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you to councils, and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten” (Mark 13.9)

    “Why then have you killed the Prophets of Allah aforetime, if you indeed have been believers?” Quran. 2:91

    2. Second, mamzer Jeebus was born in sin through adulterous SEXUAL INTERCOURSE of Mary, jeebus’ mother.

    1. Mamzer jeebus has 9 months gestation period like any other normal child. Why would God who allegedly made adulterous mary pegnant miraculously could not do miracle of making 9 month gestation period disappear? This is a valid question. Why only conception is miraculous, while there are no other miracles in gestation period or mamzer jeebus’ actual birth process?

    Clearly human sperm is involved in conception of adulterous mary leading to her 9 month gestation period for only human sperm leads to 9 months gestation period. This is clear pointer to adultery of mary and illicit borth of jeebus.

    2. Why angels appeared ONLY to Mary face to face and informed her about her conception? Clearly mary weaved a story to hde her illicit sexual contacts..

    3…

  6. continuum says:

    Ron,

    Your dirty pious lies on Lord Krishna has been already disproved from Hindu scriptural references. No matter how many times you quote these lies, it won’t work…

    Ron says:
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    There is a difference between forgiveness and judgement. Jesus said to forgive your enemies and bless and love those who hate and hurt you.
    This does not mean that the perpetrator of crime does not get judgement in afterlife.
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    Your pious christian LIES cannot stand logical reasoning. How is “forgiveness” different from “judgment (NOTE my correct spelling, it ain’t “judgement”)”. Aren’t you some third world idiot who does not know ow to spell correctly?

    You forgive somebody after judging and determining that person’s actions being wrong. There is forgiveness only after judging somebody’s actions and character.

    So if you take a court as an example, a judge may find a person guilty of a crime and may “forgive” that person from legal punishment, if the crime was committed under extenuating circumstances, like killing a person for self-protection. An example would a murderous rapist invading a woman’s house and the woman shot the rapist dead to protect herself.

    So it is clear that forgiveness comes only after judgment. One who judges souls for eternal hell, he/she/it is most definitely NOT forgiving in any way.

    If mamzer jeebus asked the victims (his followers) themselves to forgive wrong doers or perpetrators, then why could mamzer jeebus not forgive the perpetrators? Mamzer jeebus wants his followers to forgive others, but he himself will judge harshly and punish eternally perpetrators.

    You just confirmed that YOUR BASTARD mAN-gOD JEEBUS is nothing but a certified HYPOCRITE…

  7. Face_The_Truth says:

    This message is for Ron_the_Christian_M*****F*****:

    STOP LYING YOU CHRISTIAN MOTH**F**KER.

    I KNOW YOUR CHRISTIAN HISTORY.

  8. Ron says:

    There is a difference between forgiveness and judgement.

    Jesus said to forgive your enemies and bless and love those who hate and hurt you.
    This does not mean that the perpetrator of crime does not get judgement in afterlife.
    Following Jesus’s words ensure that the Christian (person who follows Christ) who forgives and blesses his enemies is assured of heaven in afterlife. The enemy who has been forgiven by the Christian even after perpetrating/dishing out hate/torture sometimes sees the truth of Christ and comes to the saving grace of Jesus. His sins are forgiven and he is now a new creation (born-again spiritually but not a natural rebirth) in Christ.
    You will NEVER find any evil in the teachings of Jesus.
    Jesus NEVER sinned. Period. He died for our sins. When you accept Jesus then this revelation becomes clear to you.
    Watch how Dr. Suresh Ramachandran a staunch Hindu who hated Christ and Christianity came to Christ.

  9. Face_The_Truth says:

    This message is for Continuum:

    The most obvious — as well as irritating — aspect about Ron_the_Christian_M*****F***** is he lies again and again — even after being caught in his non-stop Christian lies when you point out each and every time!

    Non-believers of Christianism already know that Christianism is based on one historical lie after another and if there’s no lie there’s no Christianism.

    Christians pretend that they are messengers of love and non-believers are people of hate!

    But, if you study any devout Christian mindset deeply, you will realize the opposite is true in reality.

    Christians are motivated by greed, perversion, and knowingly spreading falsehoods of their fictitious belief system.

    Plus, Christians make friendship with Muslims for having similar ideological backgrounds and history of conversions of non-believers!

    Medieval Christians did not finish the Crusades in order to allow medieval Muslims to murder all Pagans in Asian continent who did not subscribe either to Christianism or to Islamism during middle ages.

    However, diabolical Christian geo-political plans during medieval time backfired when medieval Muslims started attacking their Christian host-countries as well as for the utter extinguishment of diabolical Christian strategy of murdering all Pagans in Asian continent due to the very surprising or comet-like appearance of a Pagan war-lord named Genghis Haan who slaughtered medieval Muslims on a grand scale on the medieval world stage.

    When Christian Church was a political power, Christian Church did not treat non-believers mercifully; but, when Christian Church lost its political power, Christian Church has turned into a giant propaganda machine by whitewashing its bloody, gory, genocidal history!

    Apparently, in spite of all historical evidences, it is quite unfortunate to say that there are enough $uckers out there all over the world who will fall for either Christianism or Islamism in every minute.

  10. Ron says:

    Oh! and lets not forget Lord shiva who not only had sex with his mount – the nandi bull but also went on to have gay sex with his god buddy lord Vishnu getting him pregnant. Lord Vishnu then gave birth to a son named Ayappa from his “back thighs” i.e. his arse

    Is this love, sex, lust or perversion
    According to Dr Ambedkar this is perversion.

    – Daily.bhaskar.com/news/JM-shocking-fact-lord-vishnu-had-given-birth-to-lord-shivas-son-4441311-PHO.html

    – Dailyo.in/politics/why-all-good-indians-must-embrace-their-homosexual-heritage/story/1/4704.html

  11. Ron says:

    When Hindus were practising, enforcing and defending Sati the British commander General Sir Charles James Napier – British Army’s Commander-in-Chief in India:

    “Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs.”

    •En.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_James_Napier

  12. Ron says:

    Prasanto Mukherjee left Hinduism when his following questions were not answered.

    It is claimed that it was narrated by Krishna to Arjun during the battle of kuruckchetra when Krishna and Arjun were dodging the arrows coming at them and Arjun was aiming his arrows at the Kovrovs, 100 sons of blind Dharitrashtra and Gandhari.
    How could you accept that a couple could have 100 kids. It would mean a pregnant grand old woman in 90s walking on crutches giving birth. Biologically ABSURD Further, all the babies were male. Statistically ABSURD.
    Any one believing in Veracity of Gita should buy lottery ticket as that would be a sure bet. Lastly, if you were reading a printed copy of Gita then it must have to be printed after invention of the printing press in the 15th century which requires a written manuscript for type setting, a first step necessary for printing.

    Who provided the written manuscript? How was it verified for “reliability and accuracy” since there is no original manuscript available? Mahabharatha is claimed to have been narrated by Rishi Vyas. Since he could not find a human being he narrated to fictional writer Ganesha to write with his tusk.
    Where is this priceless manuscript preserved. Has any one seen it.

    Personally, you do not have to be concerned but you could help your family and friends to think with their brain switch flipped ON (Open and critical mindset).

    This is about lust or love?

    Lord Krishna – the sex addict
    As per Mahabharata, Krishna had a total of 16108 wives, of which eight were his principle wives and they are Rukmini, Satyabhama, Jambavati, Kalindi, Mitravrinda, Nagnajiti, Bhadra and Lakshana. The other 16100 were more like his concubines.

    All this is in addition to Radha, his uncle’s wife and the gopi’s (low caste milk maidens or Sudra cow-herdesses) whose clothes he used to steal while they took a bath in in river Jamuna. The Gita, a Holy Book of the Hindus, quotes that when these bathing low caste girls begged for the return of their clothes. Lord Krishna would demand that they come out of the water with their hands raised instead of covering their bodies.

  13. continuum says:

    Jesus was a False Prophet by Rachel-Esther bat-Avraham

  14. continuum says:

    Ron,

    You claim Hindu gods are demons….But I have shown many times with evidence that jeebus is born through adultery with logical reasoning and evidence from bible itself.

    1. Mamzer jeebus has 9 months gestation period like any other normal child. Why would God who allegedly made adulterous mary pegnant miraculously could not do miracle of making 9 month gestation period disappear? This is a valid question. Why only conception is miraculous, while there are no other miracles in gestation period or mamzer jeebus’ actual birth process?

    Clearly human sperm is involved in conception of adulterous mary leading to her 9 month gestation period for only human sperm leads to 9 months gestation period. This is clear pointer to adultery of mary and illicit borth of jeebus.

    2. Why angels appeared ONLY to Mary face to face and informed her about her conception? Clearly mary weaved a story to hde her illicit sexual contacts..

    3. Why angels did not appear to Joseph earlier and inform him about Mary’s pregnancy? It is after Joseph’s decision to divorce adulterous mary did angels appear ONLY in a dream (NOT face to face)? Why? These claims are clearly suspicious. Joseph simply lied to hide illicit sexual intercourse of mary in order to avoid stoning.

    All the above points clearly show that mamzer jeebus was born through adultery ONLY. Only demonic natured souls are born through adultery and even your bible agrees that a mamzer is sinful.

    A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
    — Deuteronomy 23:2

    Clearly, your jeebus is a sinful being born in sin through adultery of his mother mary. Demonic creatures are born through adultery just like demon mamzer jeebus, for the nature of demons is filth and garbage.

  15. continuum says:

    Mahabhartha shows Shri Krishna’s body is spiritual

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m05/m05131.htm

    After Vidura had said this, Kesava, that slayer of hostile divisions, endued with great energy, addressed Dhritarashtra’s son, Duryodhana, and said, ‘From delusion, O Suyodhana, thou regardest me to be alone, and it is for this, O thou of little understanding, that thou seekest to make me a captive after vanquishing me by violence. Here, however, are all the Pandavas and all the Vrishnis and Andhakas. Here are all the Adityas, the Rudras, and the Vasus, with all the great Rishis. Saying this Kesava, that slayer of hostile heroes burst out into a loud laughter. **And as the high-souled Sauri laughed, from His body, that resembled a blazing fire, issued myriads of gods, each of lightning effulgence, and not bigger than the thumb. And on his forehead appeared Brahman, and on his breast Rudra. And on his arms appeared the regents of the world, and from his mouth issued Agni, the Adityas, the Sadhyas, the Vasus, the Aswins, the Marutas, with Indra, and the Viswedevas. And myriads of Yakshas, and the Gandharvas, and Rakshasas also, of the same measure and form, issued thence.** And from his two arms issued Sankarshana and Dhananjaya. And Arjuna stood on his right, bow in hand, and Rama stood on his left, armed with the plough. And behind him stood Bhima, and Yudhishthira, and the two sons of Madri, and before him were all the Andhakas and the Vrishnis with Pradyumna and other chiefs bearing mighty weapons upraised. And on his diverse arms were seen the conch, the discus, the mace, the bow called Saranga, the plough, the javelin, the Nandaka, and every other weapon, all shining with effulgence, and upraised for striking. And from his eyes and nose and ears and every part of his body, issued fierce sparks of fire mixed with smoke. And from the pores of his body issued sparks of fire like unto the rays of the sun. And beholding that awful form of the high-souled Kesava, all the kings closed their eyes with affrighted hearts, except Drona, and Bhishma, and Vidura, endued with great intelligence, greatly blessed Sanjaya, and the Rishis, possessed of wealth of asceticism, for the divine Janardana gave unto them this divine sight on the occasion. And beholding in the (Kuru) court that highly wonderful sight, celestial drums beat (in the sky) and a floral shower fell (upon him). And the whole Earth trembled (at the time) and the oceans were agitated. And, O bull of the Bharata’s race, all the denizens of the earth were filled with great wonder. Then that tiger among men, that chastiser of foes, withdrew that divine and highly wonderful, and extremely varied and auspicious form.
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    This event from Mahabharatha clearly shows Lord Krishna does possess human body at all. So your claims or understanding about Hindu teachings is completely wrong. None of the events in Mahabharatha talk about any sexual event with respect to…

  16. continuum says:

    Ron says:
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    Both Krishna and Mohammed had and taught lust (not love).
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    Your claim is Lord Krishna taught lust. Where did He teach this? All His teachings in Bhagavad Gita are opposite, namely control of senses. So your comparison to Muhammad is nonsense..

    If you claim Lord Krishna had sex with many females, Mahabharatha teachings oppose this claim on two points.

    Frist, Lord Krishna does NOT possess material body like a human being. This is made clear in Mahabharatha. Spiritual beings cannot be said to have sex.

    Second, birth of children from Gods and Vedic God in Mahabharatha is clearly said to be due to other than sexual methods, without any gestation period (unlike your bastard jeebus who had 9 months gestation period).

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/mbs/mbs15038.htm

    Book 15: Chapter 38

    21 santi deva nikāyāś ca saṃkalpāñ janayanti ye
    vācā dṛṣṭyā tathā sparśāt saṃgharṣeṇeti pañcadhā

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m15/m15030.htm

    The deities are possessed of (Yoga) puissance. They are able to penetrate human bodies. 1 There are deities. They beget (offspring) by thought alone. By word, by sight, by touch, and by sexual union, also, they beget children. These are the five methods.

    This is why Karna’s birth or the birth of five brothers or birth of Vedavyasa or birth of Pandu, Dhritarashtra, Draupati, Drishtadymna, Balarama and last but not least the apparent birth of Shri Krishna Himself do NOT have sexual union as the cause of their births. Sons of Shri Krishna also were created by His powers alone.

    As per Mahabharatha Krishna’s body is NOT made of matter and is without deterioration

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m05/m05130.htm

    He is the maker of everything but is himself made by none. He is the Cause of all power. Whatever Sauri wisheth, he accomplisheth without any effort. Knowest thou not sinless Govinda, of terrible prowess and incapable of deterioration? This one, resembling an angry snake of virulent poison, is the never-ending source of energy. In seeking to use violence towards Krishna, endued with mighty arms and unwearied by exertion, thou wilt, with all thy followers, perish like an insect failing into fire.

    Mahabhartha shows Shri Krishna’s body is spiritual

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m05/m05131.htm

    After Vidura had said this, Kesava, that slayer of hostile divisions, endued with great energy, addressed Dhritarashtra’s son, Duryodhana, and said, ‘From delusion, O Suyodhana, thou regardest me to be alone, and it is for this, O thou of little understanding, that thou seekest to make me a captive after vanquishing me by violence. Here, however, are all the Pandavas and all the Vrishnis and Andhakas. Here are all the Adityas, the Rudras, and the Vasus, with all the great Rishis. Saying this Kesava, that slayer of hostile heroes burst out into a loud laughter. And as the high-souled Sauri laughed,…

  17. continuum says:

    Attack them viciously with words and physically with weapons as Krishna or Mohammed. Both Mohammed and Krishna never taught unconditional forgiveness and love.
    …………………………………………
    Krishna killed Sishupal for using profanity 100 times.
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    IT IS ALREADY CLEARLY SEEN THAT BASTARD JEEBUS DOES NOT HOLD UNCONDITIONAL FORGIVENESS AS YOU CLAIM. CLEARLY MAMZER JEEBUS WISHED ETERNAL HELL FOR THOSE WHO REJECTED HIS TEACHINGS, MUCH LESS THOSE WHO ABUSED HIM.

    Now lets see the case of Lord Krishna.Ron, first of all you should know the teachings of Hinduism before you bark like a dog of dirty suicidal mamzer jeebus.

    Sishupala was cursed to be born as enemy of God Krishna by sages for misbehavor with them, while in reality Sishupala was devotee of Lord Krishna. Lord Krishna descended in human form to relieve sishupala and Dantavakra out of their curses and killing them was relief for them form their curse. Sishupala using bad words has double meaning, one that apparently appears as insults, while inner meaning is purely praises for Lord Krishna. When He finished, Lord krishna releaved Sishupala from their curse to be born human and as enemy of Lord Krishna.

  18. continuum says:

    Jesus on the contrary taught unconditional forgiveness, love and compassion.

    But I say unto you, love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
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    Clearly this is absolute lies…..The bastard jeebus born through adultery could not tolerate even the people who rejected his stupid teachings and denied to accept his delusional status as “son of demon-god” showing jeebus is a hypocrite, one who teaches one thing and does another thing.

    Lets see how much this illicitly born bastard jeebus sowed the seeds of anti-semitism…so much for so called forgiveness…

    Demon son jeebus calls Jews as sons of devil, sowing seeds of Jew hatred…..name calling…

    “Ye are of your father the devil and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And I say the truth, why do you not believe me? He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God” (John 8.43-47)

    Jeebus wishes death and torture for his enemies, the jews…Bastard jeebus wishes eternal hell for jews….so much for love…

    “The children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” (Matthew 8.12)

    Bastard Jeebus calls Jews as the murderers of prophets, just like QURAN CALLS the Jews

    “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets and stonest them that are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold your house is left unto you desolate.” (Matthew 23.37,38) Then answered all the people (Jews) and said, “His blood be on us and on our children” (Matthew 27:25). 1 “But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you to councils, and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten” (Mark 13.9)

    “Why then have you killed the Prophets of Allah aforetime, if you indeed have been believers?” Quran. 2:91

    =================================

    WHERE IS THE SO CALLED LOVE AND FORGIVENESS OF BASTARD JEEBUS RON?

    Matthew 10

    14 And if anyone will not welcome you or heed your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town.

    15 Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.

    IN THE ABOVE VERSES, the adultery born bastard jeebus shows his real heart, where he wishes eternal hell for those who do not accept his demonic teachings that he is son of OT demon-god. Clearly, bastard jeebus is a hypocrite, who teaches one thing for others and holds unlimited hatred for those who do not accept him.

  19. Ron says:

    The Financial Times declared that despite tremendous persecution Christianity is growing in China and that within a decade and half ( i.e. 15 years) China will be largest Christian country in the world!!!

    Christianity has always grown faster when it has been persecuted. The Bible is the largest selling book in China.

    And when a nation accepts Christianity, it is blessed. We have seen China having the fastest growth rate in its economy.

    The Gospel will reach the ends of the world. You just cannot stop it!!!

    Jesus is the way, the truth and life.

  20. Ron says:

    When people use profanity and foul-mouth to you then you have choices to respond.
    Attack them viciously with words and physically with weapons as Krishna or Mohammed. Both Mohammed and Krishna never taught unconditional forgiveness and love. Both Krishna and Mohammed had and taught lust (not love).
    Krishna killed Sishupal for using profanity 100 times. Mohamed killed Abu Afak for using slander in poetry etc.
    Jesus on the contrary taught unconditional forgiveness, love and compassion.
    Jesus forgives those whom He knew would betray him. Jesus forgives those who tortured him.
    Jesus Christ loves “FACE THE TRUTH” though he hates Christ & Christians. Christ said in Mathew 5:44
    But I say unto you, love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
    Even in Luke 6: 27-28 Jesus said to Love Your Enemies.
    27But to those of you who will listen, I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.
    That is why it is very important to follow Jesus who is The Truth, The Way and The Life.
    Watch this Hindu who became a Christian when he realised that Hindu gods were really demons.
    He got healing only from Jesus when he left worshiping these false gods.

  21. I’m not a Christian. You assume much.

  22. Face_The_Truth says:

    This message is for Ron_the_Christian_Moth**F**ker:

    What you or your Christian forefathers did to non-believers for 2000 years should be done to you and to your Christian family-members.

    As Christian_Moth**F**kers like yourself peeled the flesh from the bones of non-believers (e.g., “Hindus”), non-believers (e.g., “Hindus”) should do the same to you Christian_Moth**F**kers.

    And, then you Christian_Moth**F**ker will be free from your Christian sins and will f**k around no more!

    http://www.kyroot.com/

    JESUS WAS NOT THE JEWISH MESSIAH

    Christians claim that Jesus was the promised Jewish messiah, or savior, and the Gospel authors went out of their way to portray Jesus as such, often referring to the messianic prophecies of the Old Testament.

    But there is a huge problem with this — scripturally literate Jews have rejected this concept for 2000 years and for many good reasons!

    All of the following would have to happen before someone can be acknowledged as the foretold Jewish messiah:

    The Jewish messiah must be of the tribe of Judah and a descendant of King David and King Solomon.

    The New Testament scriptures confirm that Jesus DID NOT have a birth father, and thus could NOT fulfill this requirement.

    The temple in Jerusalem will be rebuilt.

    The temple was destroyed 38 years after Jesus’s death and has NOT been rebuilt.

    There will be worldwide peace and a complete end to war.

    Wars have only increased since the birth of Christianity.

    [For examples, Romans indiscriminately massacred Jews during war in 66 A.D.

    Muhammad the Arabian bastard and Muhammad’s Islamic followers have massacred Jews from from 7th century A.D. and to this day.

    Christian Nazis indiscriminately massacred Jews during World War II.]

    The Jewish messiah will reign as a king, with all Jews observing the Jewish commandments.

    Jesus never reigned as a king and all Jews DO NOT observe the commandments.

    The messiah is to rule when all the people of the world acknowledge and worship the one true Jewish God (i.e., Jehovah).

    That has not happened.

    There will be an in-gathering of Jews to Israel.

    This has begun to happen, but has not been completed.

    Christians claim that Jesus will fulfill all of these requirements when Jesus returns!

    But, Jewish people consider this Christian claim to be an admission that Jesus failed to fulfill the Messianic criteria.

    The fact that Jesus is a failed messiah destroys the credibility of Christianity.

    It creates a disconnect between the Old Testament God (i.e., Jehovah) and the God of Christianity, but Jesus himself worshiped the Old Testament God (i.e., Jehovah).

    Therefore, Christianity can only be true if Jesus had been the Jewish messiah and was universally accepted as such.

    http://www.kyroot.com/

  23. Ron says:

    Jesus Christ loves “FACE THE TRUTH” though he hates Christ & Christians. Christ said in Mathew 5:44
    But I say unto you, love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.

    Even in Luke 6: 27-28 Jesus said to Love Your Enemies.
    27But to those of you who will listen, I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.

    We can see the hate in FACE THE TRUTH and his ilk specially through his writings, profanity, shouting (large caps).

    My reading of him is that he has been indoctrinated with hate right from an early age. He has the propensity to commit genocide (if he gets help of the state apparatus and political machinery) against Christians, Muslims and Communists in that order (because this is what right wing Hindu fundamentalists teach and perpetrate in the garb of nationalism and patriotism.).

    He is not able to discern between truth and lies. He needs help but he doesn’t know it. He needs love. He needs a Saviour. We pray that may God bless him with discernment, love and peace so that he may realise that Jesus is the way, the truth and life.

    Dr Amod Kumar had a similar thinking and disliked Christ, Christianity and was brainwashed into thinking that Christians are out to change the demographic of India by forced conversions. He delinked from the hate groups like RSS.

    He realised that Christians are NEVER forced to accept Christ, Baptism is NEVER forced. You are NEVER bribed to become a Christian. You are always free to leave.

    It is the teachings of Jesus which taught genuine love, peace, forgiveness, healing, caring, sharing, compassion and salvation which bring people to Jesus.

    Watch this testimony even as we bless our Brother FACE THE TRUTH and his cohorts with peace even as he realises the truth sooner or later that Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation.

  24. Face_The_Truth says:

    [Ron_the_Christian_Moth**F**ker wrote AGAIN:
    Why believe in Jesus?
    1) It was foretold in the Bible that he (Messiah) would be born of a virgin, born in Bethlehem, do miracles, die and rise again. Plus, there are many more prophecies not mentioned here due to lack of space.]

    DO ALL READERS AT FAITHFREEDOM.ORG WEBSITE REALIZE THAT RON_THE_CHRISTIAN_MOTH**F**KER HAS AN INCURABLE DISEASE CALLED CHRISTIANISM???

    HOW MANY MORE TIMES OTHERS HAVE TO MENTION AND REPLY WITH RECORDED HISTORY AS WELL AS CONTEMPORARY JEWISH SOURCES THAT JESUS F**KING CHRIST WAS NO MESSIAH, ACCORDING TO EXISTING JEWISH SCRIPTURES???

    JEWS KNEW 2000 YEARS AGO THAT, JESUS F**KING CHRIST WAS NO SON OF GOD.

    2000 YEARS AGO, JEWS KNEW THAT JESUS F**KING CHRIST WAS NO JEWISH MESSIAH AS DESCRIBED IN JEWISH LITERATURE.

    CHRISTIANISM’S NEW TESTAMENT WAS (AND IS) NOTHING BUT FORGERIES AND FALSEHOODS THROUGH AND THROUGH.

    RON_THE_CHRISTIAN_MOTH**F**KER’S DISEASE IS INCURABLE AND, AS SUCH, ONLY DEATH CAN RELIEVE RON_THE_CHRISTIAN_MOTH**F**KER FROM THE DISEASE OF CHRISTIANISM.

  25. Ron says:

    Continued from previous post…

    25) The AIDS homes in the third world countries have been started only Christian NGO’s and other religions have not even tried to do it.

    26) Christians have founded have founded the most humanitarian service organizations in the world!!!
    (Even if you put all the other religions combined they do not equal to what Christian organizations have done)
    examples:
    YMCA,
    Red Cross,
    Habitat,
    Shelters,
    Leprosy missions,
    World vision,
    Salvation Army,
    RSPCA
    Alcoholics Anonymous
    Amnesty International

    27.One of the largest international literacy organizations in the world, SIL International, brings literacy to thousands of the world’s poorest language communities. No other organization has had anywhere near the impact SIL has on world literacy in minority groups. “Without doubt, SIL is the world’s leading agency doing literacy work among minority peoples.” Dr. H. S. Bhola, Professor of Education Indiana University.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIL_International

    28. Kindernothilfe (KNH) is a charity organization and was founded in 1959 by a group of Christians in Duisburg, Germany, in order to help needy children in India. Over time, it has become one of the largest Christian organizations in Europe for children’s aid.
    Today it supports more than 580,000 children and young people in 28 countries in Africa, Asia, Latin America and Eastern Europe. KNH aims to give needy children in the poorest countries of the world a chance to a good start in life.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kindernothilfe
    29. Tiny Hands International (THI) is a Christian nonprofit organization dedicated to helping orphaned and abandoned children and fighting sex trafficking in South Asia. Tiny Hands operates through national non-governmental organizations (NGOs) in Nepal, Bangladesh, and India.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiny_Hands_International

    Because Christ was an epitome of love, peace, forgiveness, healing and grace, His teachings have the most positive impact despite attempts by anti-Christians to denigrate Him.

    But we have to follow Christ and know that we cannot win Muslims by hate, we can only win them by love of Christ. Also, there will be non-Christians who will spew venom but we can only win them by love of Christ.

    They may not believe in Christ and may hate Christ and at the same time deny Christ existed or call Him evil but we should know that Christ loves them and even died for them also.

  26. @Face_The_Truth
    When I asked some crazy Christians about your fresh thinking on the verse “Slaves”1 PETER 2:18-21, they responded that 2000 years ago “slave’ was the term used in the Middle East when someone was engaged to do work on payment. Something like “Coolie” in India. This slave is not to be confused with African slaves in America. Communists use the term Bourgeois and proletariat. The expressions change over time. “Underdeveloped countries” was corrected by Jawaharlal Nehru as “Developing countries”. “Mentally retarded people” is now changed as “Intellectually disabled people”

    Anyhow I love you “Face-the-truth” and your intellectual brilliance in finding fault with the 2000 year old usage of the term. I think you are going to bring Christianity upside down. That is a lovely thing to do.

  27. Ron says:

    Why believe in Jesus?
    1) It was foretold in the Bible that he (Messiah) would be born of a virgin, born in Bethlehem, do miracles, die and rise again. Plus, there are many more prophecies not mentioned here due to lack of space.
    2) Almost 4.5 billion of the world’s 7 billion believe in one or some of the points of Jesus i.e. he is Son of God, Prophet or Holy one of God, Divine or Incarnation of God etc.
    3) The Bible is the largest selling book in the world since Printing Presses were invented.
    4) Jesus’ life story, ministry and words in the New Testament (part of the Bible) is the largest selling and the largest translated book in the world and also in most countries.
    5) The Bible alone sells more than all other religious scriptures combined every year.
    6) More books have been written about Jesus than of any other historical personality in the world.
    7) The Bible is the highest downloaded book in the whole world.
    8) The Bible sells more every year than in the year before right since the invention of the printing press.
    9) The Bible and the New Testament continue to be translated in other scripted languages.
    10) The Bible was banned in USSR (for 70 yrs.) and China (still banned) and yet is still the largest selling book in Russia and China.
    11) Bible is the only religious scripture taken and read on the moon, space ships etc.
    12) Bible is the only religious scripture available in English Braille and in other languages of Braille.
    13) The Bible is available in audio, video and other electronic formats and still sells more than other religious scripture or atheistic narratives.
    14) Majority of NDE cases have reported encounter with Jesus in Heaven (Many of them were non-Christians)
    15) Most charity in the world is done by Christians (Majority of charity receivers are
    non-Christians)
    16) Most first adoptions (first child adoption) is done by Christians. (Muslims do the least adoptions)
    17) Most second adoptions (second Child adoption) is done overwhelmingly the Christians.
    18) Eighty percent of fostering of children worldwide is done by Christians.
    19) Ninety percent of leprosy homes in the world even in non-Christian countries is run by Christians (though the inmates/patients are overwhelmingly non-Christian)
    20) Ninety percent of the AIDS homes all over the world are run by Christians. (though the inmates/patients are overwhelmingly non-Christian)
    21) Seventy percent of the orphanages in the world are run by Christians.
    22) Seventy percent of the free hospitals in the world are run by Christians.
    23) If you are from the third world and have received free vaccinations for polio, small pox, TB etc. then be grateful it was donated by Christians.
    24.) Eradication of leprosy (rampant in the non-Christian world specially in India, Nepal, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka, Burma where the inmates are non-Christians) has been taken up Christian NGOs.
    25) The AIDS homes in the third world countries have been started only…

  28. madfijian says:

    This is to screen name Walter and Passive observer. It is fair to say from the posts below that you have been owned by face-the- truth. There is simply no logical arguments to be had that would make the 3 Monotheistic faiths make any sense whatsoever. The fact that you are having to explain and try and find positive interpretations to suit your narratives of the gospels is enough indication to a curious skeptical mind that there is something fundamentally wrong with the faith that you have and the books that were purportedly written by folks who were inspired by a perfect God. A book written by God would have no errors no contradictions and most certainly no barbarism, hate and violence. If you still cant see this than seriously you are beyond reason and any hope. I would strongly suggest getting your hands on those books that face-the-truth references. If you truly have an open mind you should esquire further. The evidence against religion in general is mounting day by day. All you need to do is to learn with an open mind and the truth will set you free.

  29. Face_The_Truth says:

    “Do not commit adultery” was an instruction to barbarian Jews, barbarian Christians, and barbarian Muslims who were used to polygamy all the time and so your Christian false God admonished Jews, Christians, and Muslims for having sexual interactions outside of marriages while saying nothing about eradicating polygamy and sex-slavery.

    And, these sorts of barbarian commandments were well suited for barbarian Jews, barbarian Christians and barbarian Muslims of Middle East.

    No matter how much more you try, your Christianism in its core has nothing to do with either spirituality or divineness.

  30. Walter Sieruk says:

    To Face-the-truth, to answer your objection to my last message that “polygamy is wrong and is not sanction by God.” First , as explain before the only reason the do tolerate that custom of polygamy which both King David and then latter King Solomon was because it was such an entrenched tradition in the ancient Middle East that God allow it but did do approve of it For that specific time and place. Not in or for the future . regarding new information. is about slavery and the Bible. Slavery was tolerated by God and not because God approved of it but slavery was another fully entrenched tradition in the ancient Middle East. Yet not in in future times slavery should be put into practice. As for Christians who say “God never changes in His Nature.” They are right. God does not change in His Holy Nature. Nevertheless, some ,not all , of His rules and laws regarding human behavior do change. For example,a chance is in human action is no more Sabbath keeping. Not it Sunday worship not Saturday rest. Something that did not chance is “Do not commit adultery “

  31. Face_The_Truth says:

    This message is for screen-name Passive_Observer:

    [I incline to think that you are one of the foremost thinkers of our time. I appreciate your sharp intellect, wisdom and understanding.]

    I DO NOT THINK I AM THAT GOOD A THINKER; OTHERWISE, I COULD HAVE WRITTEN ANY OF THE FOLLOWING BOOKS ON MY OWN.

    ====================================================================

    William Benjamin Smith, “Ecce Deus: Studies of Primitive Christianity”, London, 1912

    l. Gordon Rylands, “Did Jesus Ever Live?”, Watts & Co., London, 1929

    William James Durant, “The Story of Civilization, Part III, Caesar and Christ”, Fourth Printing, New York, 1944

    Paul Johnson, “A History of Christianity”, Penguin Books, London, 1978

    Michael Thomas Walter Arnheim, “Is Christianity True?”, London, 1984

    George Albert Wells, “Did Jesus Exist?”, Second Edition, London, 1986

    Daniel Edwin Barker, “Losing Faith in Faith: From Preacher to Atheist”, Fourth Printing, Freedom From Religion Foundation, Inc., USA, 2003

    ====================================================================

    [Your power of conviction penetrates the 4000 years of history.]

    NO, MY POWER OF THINKING AND CONVICTION GOES BACK 10,000 YEARS OF HUMAN CIVILIZATION ON EARTH.

    HUMAN CIVILIZATION DID NOT BEGIN WITH THE BIRTHS OF JESUS F**KING CHRIST OR MUHAMMAD THE ARABIAN BASTARD.

    IN FACT, SHRIMAD BHAGAVAD GITA CAME INTO ITS CURRENT WRITTEN FORM 3000 YEARS BEFORE JESUS F**KING CHRIST WAS EVEN BORN.

    SO, IT IS APPARENT THAT, SANATANA DHARMA IS MUCH MUCH OLDER.

    [Even after 2000 years, the 2300 million foolish Christians could not understand the grain of truth you have shown.]

    YOU CAN AWAKE SOMEONE WHO IS ACTUALLY SLEEPING.

    BUT, YOU CANNOT AWAKE SOMEONE WHO IS PRETENDING TO BE ASLEEP.

    [The funniest thing is that there are more than 630 Nobel laureates among these foolish Christians, not to mention the Pope, Cardinals, 4000 Bishops 1,000,000 priests and preachers and 700,000 nuns. I asked some of these foolish Christians about your new and fresh thinking on the Bible. They were astonished at the insight you have brought to the world.]

    IT DOESN’T MATTER WHETHER SOMEONE IS A NOBEL LAUREATE OR A MERE LAYMAN WHEN IT COMES TO FREE-THINKING.

    TRUTH REMAINS TO BE TRUTH AND FALSEHOOD REMAINS TO BE FALSEHOODS.

    EVEN IF BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA SAYS THINGS THAT ARE DEEMED TO BE FALSE AND HARMFUL, THEN BHAGWAN SHRI KRISHNA MUST BE REJECTED.

  32. Face_The_Truth says:

    This message is for screen-name Passive_Observer:

    [They said you were 99% correct.]

    FOR NOT GIVING ME 100 OUT OF 100, PLEASE LET ME GIVE THEM 1 OUT OF 100 HERE.

    http://www.kyroot.com/

    UNJUST CHRISTIAN PUNISHMENT IS A “BLESSING”

    The following piece of divine “brilliance” is located in the New Testament:

    ====================================================================
    1 PETER 2:18-21

    “Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. For it is commendable if someone bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because they are conscious of God. But how is it to your credit if you receive a beating for doing wrong and endure it? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God. To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps.”

    ====================================================================

    The first problem with this Christian scripture is that it condones slavery, which we should all know that a real God would condemn.

    But it goes much further and says that being beaten for doing nothing wrong is something that God would appreciate.

    All this does is to encourage slaves, and presumably non-slaves as well, to accept unjustified rough treatment without complaint or defense.

    It also gives tacit license to slave-owners as well as others in positions of authority to mistreat their underlings.

    So, the real question is how could such an immoral, unethical, misguided, barbaric, unreasonable, absurd, cruel, inhuman, and uncivilized scripture make it into the “Super Holy” Bible?

    Much less in the supposedly more sensible and humane New Testament?

    The answer is simple — a super-natural God had nothing to do with it.

    http://www.kyroot.com/

  33. @Face_The_Truth
    I incline to think that you are one of the foremost thinkers of our time. I appreciate your sharp intellect, wisdom and understanding. Your power of conviction penetrates the 4000 years of history. Even after 2000 years, the 2300 million foolish Christians could not understand the grain of truth you have shown. The funniest thing is that there are more than 630 Nobel laureates among these foolish Christians, not to mention the Pope, Cardinals, 4000 Bishops 1,000,000 priests and preachers and 700,000 nuns.
    I asked some of these foolish Christians about your new and fresh thinking on the Bible. They were astonished at the insight you have brought to the world. They said you were 99% correct. The slight difference is that 4000 years ago the aboriginal, tribal and feudal societies were much worse than the 21st century Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc. So God had to be tough with them. He had the necessity to assert His status and power on idolatry. Nonetheless, He sent Jesus at the right time to refine the ancient laws for the new generation of people.

    I asked them what these refinement of laws were. They replied me to read Mathew chapter 5,6 &7. They stressed these refinement of laws that define the separation of Old and New Testaments. A few of Jesus’ statements are as follows:-

    “You have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
    22) But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire”.

    27) “You have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
    28) But I say unto you, That whosoever looked on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart”.

    “You have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
    39) But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.”

    In my final analysis I have found that you are correct. Please continue your good work.
    By the way there is a secret warning to these foolish Christians at Mathew 22:14

  34. Face_The_Truth says:

    Walter Sieruk wrote: Polygamy is not sanctioned by [the] God [world’s Christians worship].

    I THINK YOU ARE TRYING HARD TO LEGITIMIZE YOUR ILLEGITIMATE AS WELL AS FALSE CHRISTIAN GOD IN EXACTLY THE SAME WAY WORLD’S MUSLIMS TRY EXTREMELY HARD — TO THE POINT OF MURDERING NON-BELIEVERS — IN ORDER TO LEGITIMIZE FALSE ISLAMIC ALLAH WHO, WORLD’S MUSLIMS BELIEVE, LIVES IN SAUDI ARABIA.

    http://www.kyroot.com/

    CHRISTIAN GOD SUPPORTS SEX SLAVERY, ARRANGED MARRIAGES, AND POLYGAMY

    Christians often claim that if we just return to the morality of the Bible, all will be well.

    This is ludicrous!

    Just one example is needed to show the folly of such a Christian claim.

    Consider EXODUS 21:7-11:

    “If a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, then he shall let her be bought back again; but he has no power to sell her to foreigners, since he has wronged her by no longer wanting her after marrying her. And if he arranges an engagement between a Hebrew slave girl and his son, then he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but must treat her as a daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing, or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three things, then she may leave freely without any payment.”

    Here in the “holy” Christian book allegedly inspired by Christian God, we see that Christian God supports the idea that women are the property of men, that a man can sell his daughter into slavery, that the buyer can arrange a marriage for her, and that the man can take on additional wives.

    What do Christians say about this?

    Usually that, the Old Testament doesn’t count.

    If that’s the case, then world’s Christians should remove the Old Testament from their Bibles.

    But even that, Christians should not be allowed to get away with this charade — the God of the Old Testament is the same God that world’s Christians worship.

    Christians are fond of saying that morality and what is right or wrong doesn’t change because Christian God doesn’t change!

    Christians broadcast the idea that morality does not change over time and therefore claim, for example, that homosexuality cannot ever be accepted because it is clearly considered an abomination in the “Super Holy” Bible.

    Given that, then world’s Christians should still be able to sell their daughters into slavery as well as practice polygamy because Christian God doesn’t change, and it is STILL IN THE BIBLE.

    http://www.kyroot.com/

  35. Walter Sieruk says:

    To Face- the-Truth, First ,on the subject of Mormonism you are correct that the Book of Mormon Totally lacks archaeological confirmation. Furthermore , I own hard paperback the Book of Mormon and during the times I have read through its chapters it comes across to me as not only a fake “scripture” but a poorly written one at that. It even contains much plagiarism . As for example the plagiarism of the Sermon on the Mount . To make this even more absurd the Book of Mormon “jesus’ speaks the exact words ,as in word by word. As a poor imitation of the real Jesus of the Bible ,K.J.V.. The point is no one making the same sermon or speech in exact the same way , using exactly the specific words . An obviously plagiarism and an unconscionable method of space filling the the farce of book ,The Book of Mormon. For those and many other reasons the religion of Mormonism is a pseudo -christian cult.
    Second , it has been said the Joseph Smith was a second type of Muhammad. To give only a few of the many reason as to why that was said are as follows After all, both men claimed to be prophets of God. They both claimed to have met an angle. They both ending up giving the world a extra -Biblical “revelation” [“scripture”] The religions they both started denies the Biblical doctrine of the Trinity. They both engaged in polygamy. Moreover , in the light of the Bible they are both false prophets, Isaiah 8:20. Mathew 7:15. First John 4:1. Second Timothy 3:16.
    Getting back to the polygamy of Islam and Mormonism, the following might be in interest to a few people. Maybe ? Polygamy is not sanctioned by God. For example God gave Adam one wife. Furthermore, in the New Testament Jesus taught “For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife…” Jesus said “wife.” Not “wives” Mathew 19:5. [K.J.V.] Likewise, in First Timothy 3:2. In instructs “A bishop the must be blameless, the husband on one wife.” Here again it’s “one wife” Nevertheless, there are some people who will act as apologists for polygamy by say the king David of Israel and then later his son ,who became King Solomon of Israel did practice polygamy. Such people aren’t taking into account both the time and place. For the only reason that God did tolerate this tradition was not because it was right or that He approved of it. It was because this practice of having many wives was such an entrenched custom in the ancient Middle East that God allowed it for the above mentioned Kings of Israel. This does not mean that this custom, of polygamy, was to keep on going in other times and places.

  36. Face_The_Truth says:

    http://www.kyroot.com/

    CHRISTIANISM = MORMONISM = ISLAMISM = JUDAISM = SEMITIC MONOTHEISM

    In the early 19th Century A.D., Joseph Smith claimed to have been visited by God the Father and the Son and was told by them that all of the existing Christian churches were false and that Joseph Smith would be tasked to restore the true Gospel.

    Joseph Smith wrote a book, “The Book of Mormon”, that claimed that a tribe of Israelites traveled to the Americas by boat several centuries before Jesus was born.

    “The Book of Mormon” discussed wars between two factions of these settlers, the (good and light-skinned ) Nephites and the (bad and dark-skinned) Lamanites.

    Ultimately, the Lamanites massacred the Nephites and became the ancestors of the American natives (Indians).

    Subsequent research has convincingly shown that the history of “The Book of Mormon” is fictional.

    The American natives originated in Eastern Asia, and no archaeological evidence has been found to validate the battles that were discussed in the book.

    Additionally, “The Book of Mormon” contains a large number of anachronisms regarding animals and industries that did not locally exist at the time.

    Joseph Smith also surreptitiously practiced polygamy and polyamory, marrying teenagers as young as 14 — when Joseph Smith was around 37 — as well as the WIVES OF LIVING HUSBANDS who Joseph Smith had conveniently sent away on proselytizing missions.

    http://mormonthink.com/personalstories/jeremy-runnells.htm

    So, what does this Mormonism have to do with Christianity or Islam?

    Mormonism has grown to be a successful church with about 10 million active members — including high-ranking American politicians — despite the obvious problems surrounding Mormonism’s origins, the lack of authenticity of its scriptures, the implausibility of a God that would abandon all of the other Christian churches, and the foolishness of choosing a conman and sex addict (i.e., Joseph Smith) as the divine agent or God’s messenger for restoring Christian God’s church to the earth.

    That a false religion could succeed in 19th Century America means that a false faith could much more easily have flourished in the First Century A.D. and beyond.

    The experience of Mormonism suggests that any argument claiming evidence for Christianity or Islam based on the number of adherents is null and void.

    http://www.kyroot.com/

  37. Walter Sieruk says:

    A claim by Islamic scholars as well as jihadists is that no one can produce something as beautiful as the Quran in the way the words are arranged and thus it can only be of God. This claim should be answered.
    First, all someone has to do is examine some of the great works of literature to fine much written beauty. Such as the Greek epic poet Homer with his Iliad and Odyssey and then Virgil who produced the Aeneid has beauty. Even one of the non-Bible books in the Apocrypha called The Song of Three Children is also very beautiful. Thus just because someone sees a work that is written in great beauty doesn’t mean it’s inspired by God.
    Second, the scholar Edward Gibbon wrote after an examination of the Quran that it is an “incoherent jumble of fable and precept and declamation which seldom excites a sentiment or an idea, sometimes craws in the dust and is sometimes lost in the clouds…” The writer Thomas Carlyle wrote the Quran is “A wearisome jumble, crude, incondite [with] endless iterations [and] longwindedness…” Likewise, the philosopher David Hume was NOT favorably impressed after reading the Quran.
    [Source of the three scholars mentioned – Secrets of The Koran: Revealing Insight Into Islam’s Holy Book .56,66, by Don Richardson]

    Furthermore, the following should be taken into consideration.

    Of course the Muslim who reads the Quran will see great beauty in the way the words are arranged. This is, in part, because of the power of suggestion after being told so many times that the Quran is so beautifully written. That’s an old brainwashing method, repeating and being told that same thing again and again. Since he or she is always being told the same lie will end up believing that lie. In addition to that, the Imams try to discourage their people from reading other works, such as the Bible, so then they don’t have much or anything to compare or contrast the Quran with. Of course there are some Muslim’s that do read other works, but they are exceptions and they read other things only after they were already brainwashed by the Imams. In short, the Muslims can’t read the Quran objectively because their Imams have programmed them to have a strong bias towards it.

  38. Walter Sieruk says:

    For a more full understanding of the actual nature of the Koran a person need to look back in time before the coming of Muhammad and then the Koran. Back to the First Century AD which was the time of early Christian church. For the Early Christian Church had and now in modern times the Christian church still has the Gospel of Christ, First Corinthians 15:1-4. Much later, in time, came Muhammad and he gave much information, that many believe to be divine, some of which is said to have been obtained from an angle from heaven. This information was written down on different objects and things Those written words in different objects was then compiled together and then eventually went into the composition of what is now called the Koran, As some also call it the Qur’an. The Koran is actually, that is in reality, another gospel, apart and greatly different from the Gospel of the Christian Church. Such a thing was predicted in the Bible. For the Bible does warn about those who will come and offer to people another gospel other than the one shown above, First Corinthians 15:1-4. For it is warned about any other “gospel” in the Bible. For it is written in the Bible “Though we or an angle from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so I say now again, if any man preaches any other gospel unto you than ye have received, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:8, 9. [K.J.V.] Therefore, the Koran is the result of the deception of a false prophet, Mathew 7:15., who may have come in contact with a fallen angle, a demon, So the imams and mullahs who preach it a truth to other are accused of and by God.

  39. Walter Sieruk says:

    A very important question: “Is the Quran the Word of God or is it a fabrication of a man. Thus, is the Quran the truth or a fiction and a hoax ?” The jihadists use many verses from the Quran as the main source of justification for their violence, mayhem and murders. As found in For example, 4:89. 5:33. 9:5,111,123. 47:4. The answer is clearly given on pages 145 through 157 in THE ISLAMIC INVASION by Robert Morey in which he wrote a section on the Quran with its self-contradictions. Just two of the many he cited are the following “The Quran differs on whether a day is a thousand years or fifty thousand years in God’s sight’ and “Who was first to believe? Abraham or Moses [Sura 6:14 versus 7:143]? The above is inconsistent and illogical. Further, Morey wrote about “The fact that Judaism and Christianity broke up into different sects was used in the Quran to prove that they are not of God [Suras 30:20-32. 42:13, 14]. Yet Islam has broken up into many warring sects and therefore cannot be true if the Quran is right.” Moreover, Morey in his book shows many more contradictions and absurdities in the Quran, there are and how Muhammad incorporated extra Biblical and Jewish folklore along with pre-Islamic Arabian myth and parts of Zoroastrian and Hindu stories into the Quran. Furthermore, the Muslims claim that “the Quran is the direct, literal word of God unmodified in any way by the Prophet who uttered them at the bidding of God.” Nevertheless, in the book UNVEILING ISLAM by Ergun Mehmet and Eethi Caner has shown that the Quran was modified in the following account on pages 45. “Muhammad felt the need to improve on the words of Allah, since he changed Allah’s wisdom for his own on several occasions. A hadith tells of the nonchalant emendations of Muhammad:’ On a number of occasions he [a scribe] had, with the Prophet’s consent changed the closing words of verses. For example, when the prophet had said ‘God is mighty and wise ‘ Adbollah b. Abi Sarh suggested writing down ‘Knowing and wise’ and the Prophet answered that there was no objection. Having observed a succession of changes of this type, Adbollah renounced Islam on the grounds that revelations, if from God could not be changed at the prompting of a scribe such as himself. After his apostasy he went to Mecca and joined the Qorayshites.’ Other writers reveal that later Muhammad and his people did go war with the Qorayshites and he personally killed Abdollah. Obviously Abdollah knew too much and Muhammad wanted Abdollah’s knowledge to die with him.” In conclusion, the Quran is not only a fiction, it’s also a hoax.

  40. Walter Sieruk says:

    To Face- The -truth, To give over the information you keyboarded .To quote again Matthew 7:15-20. In which Jesus taught “Watch out for false prophets . They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them .” Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise ,every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit.Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus by their fruit you will recognize them.” [N.I.V.] First, that some religious leaders of Christendom in worldly power in a corrupt , unbiblical men made counterfeit church have used,abuses and twisted the Words of Jesus for their own advancement and then burn people alive for having different beliefs. This is wrong and those unsaved churchmen will on judgement day have to answer before the God of the Bible, for their evil. as seen in Romans 14;12. The old saying is true which is that “Evil is always looking for an excuse” Those evil churchmen found their excuse in Matthew 7:19 by misusing the teaching of Jesus. Second , to be even more clear on this. When Jesus taught “By their fruit you will recognize them.” This may be seen in both Islam and the Roman Catholic Church. As for Islam the founder and prophet of Islam, Muhammad, gave the information the was written down on different things and then later complied and went into composition of the Koran, or as others call Islam’s ‘Holy book” the Qu ‘ran. The point is the fruit of the Koran was and is the brutal cruel murderous violence of the jihad. As the Koran teaches,for example, in Sura 5:33, 9:5, 111,123 .47:4 Therefore Islam with its Koran is a bad fruit and Muhammad with his starting Islam is thus one of the false prophets Jesus warned about in Matthew 7:15. So Muhammad is now been thrown into fire [hell] Furthermore, as for the Roman Catholic Church which had the papacy and its very foundation . To look at history the fruit of the papacy was the brutal ,cruel murderous violence of the Crusades and the Inquisition. So the fruit of the papacy is bad and the papacy is just as much of a hoax as the Koran and all the popes a false “Christen” leaders and after they died they all ,including John Paul II , had been thrown into fire [hell] This is not an easy message to post . nevertheless the truth need to be made known. This was not posted withe intention to offend and upset but to enlighten and inform. More information about the little known truth about the Roman Catholic Church and the papacy may be found at the site http://www.theconversioncenter.com

  41. Miguel says:

    You have to include the Sira (the story of Muhammad) and hadith (the traditions of Muhammad) to fully understand Islam. The koran by itself is actually written when muhammad was in Mecca and only preached the religion of islam and only converted 150 arabs. It was religion he preached and it was peaceful. After he was made to leave mecca h e went to medina where he became a political and military leader and preached violance and by the swird converted over 10,000 arabs per year for 9 years. The later verses of the koran, the violant verses are the most recent and are what is to be followed and adhered to. The later supercede the earlier. Islam is not oeaceful and wont be until al the people of the earth submit to islam.

  42. Face_The_Truth says:

    http://www.kyroot.com/

    THE “SUPER HOLY” BIBLE USED TO JUSTIFY BURNING HERETICS

    In Matthew 7:15-20, we read:

    “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.”

    These and similar verses in Luke and John were used for centuries to justify burning at the stake persons who didn’t believe that Jesus was the son of God.

    The number of people burned for heresy is unknown, but the following website produces an estimated number during a period of intense burning:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_burning

    Estimates of how many were executed on behest of the Spanish Inquisition have been offered from early on; historian Hernando del Pulgar (1436 — c. 1492) estimated that 2,000 people were burned at the stake between 1478 and 1490.

    Estimates range from 30,000 to 50,000 burnt at the stake (alive or not) at the behest of the Spanish Inquisition during its 300 years of activity have previously been given and are still to be found in popular books.

    Christian apologists will try to explain this atrocity on the idea that these executioners were not ‘real Christians’.

    But when your “sacred” scripture has your lord and savior making statement like the one above and also condemning non-believers to eternal hell-fire, can you blame these vigilantes for carrying out what to them was a “sacred” mission?

    It’s hard to believe that a real God would stand by as his followers torture non-believers, or for that matter, say things or else allow unscrupulous authors to put words in God’s mouth that incite the act of burning people alive.

    http://www.kyroot.com/

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