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Abudosama
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 Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:08 pm Post subject: A Polite Sermon |
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A Polite Sermon
MATHEW 23 :33. You snakes and sons of snakes!
MATHEW 23 :13. You hypocrites!
MATHEW 12 :39. How evil and godless are the people of this day!
LUKE 12 :51. Do you suppose that I came to bring peace to the world? No, not peace, but division.
LUKE 12 :49- I came to set the earth on fire. And how I wish it were already kindled! |
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Steven Luotto
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| Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 3:18 pm Post subject: Old Kitaab |
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Ciao Abudosama,
I'm not religious... however.
In this corner you have a prophet who is nailed to the cross for our sins.
and in that corner:
...this other fellow who has 13 wives, raided caravans and ordered people to be crucified, chopped up in quarters.
The Legacy?
In this corner you have an old doddering pope calling for everyone to kiss and make up
and in that corner the Imam of Rome (biggest mosque in Europe) saying - and I quote:
"Oh Allah, help us annihilate the enemies of Islam. Oh Allah destroy their houses! Oh Allah make certain everywhere the victory of the Nation of Islam!"
So whatver's in that Al Kitaab of yours ain't working.
The Imam was a graduate from that famous school in Egypt, so I reckon he knows the old Kitaab better than you... and even if he don't, he's running the show in MY CITY...
You might also want to facture into the above consideration that the Imam of Italy's second city, Milan, was busted for Terrorism...
The Old Kitaab just ain't working |
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eruss
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 7:04 am Post subject: Re: Old Kitaab |
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| Steven Luotto wrote: | Ciao Abudosama,
I'm not religious... however.
In this corner you have a prophet who is nailed to the cross for our sins.
and in that corner:
...this other fellow who has 13 wives, raided caravans and ordered people to be crucified, chopped up in quarters.
The Legacy?
In this corner you have an old doddering pope calling for everyone to kiss and make up
and in that corner the Imam of Rome (biggest mosque in Europe) saying - and I quote:
"Oh Allah, help us annihilate the enemies of Islam. Oh Allah destroy their houses! Oh Allah make certain everywhere the victory of the Nation of Islam!"
So whatver's in that Al Kitaab of yours ain't working.
The Imam was a graduate from that famous school in Egypt, so I reckon he knows the old Kitaab better than you... and even if he don't, he's running the show in MY CITY...
You might also want to facture into the above consideration that the Imam of Italy's second city, Milan, was busted for Terrorism...
The Old Kitaab just ain't working |
In that same sermon Jesus called them "hypocrites". I think you just showed that beautifully. Thank you! |
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Steven Luotto
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 7:56 am Post subject: Ciao |
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I owe you a coffee Eruss
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Spinoza
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 10:05 am Post subject: Re: Ciao |
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| Steven Luotto wrote: | I'm sorry Eruss, I don't quite catch what you mean.
Do I have to be a Christian to say that Christianity is generally more peaceful than Islam? That parables travel better in time and place than injunctions?
That turn the other cheek Works better than "round 'em up wherever you find them?"
I don't see the hipocrisy.
Explain it to me. I'll even take the fire and brimstone.
Ciao |
I don't think he was talking of you. |
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DoctorNO
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 11:09 am Post subject: Re: A Polite Sermon |
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| Abudosama wrote: | A Polite Sermon
MATHEW 23 :33. You snakes and sons of snakes!
MATHEW 23 :13. You hypocrites!
MATHEW 12 :39. How evil and godless are the people of this day!
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nothing wrong with those. snake is a symbolic word for "betrayer".
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LUKE 12 :51. Do you suppose that I came to bring peace to the world? No, not peace, but division.
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nothing wrong with that either, just the truth. visionaries & prophets always cause divisions. people who listen & follow new revolutionary ideas always end up being persecuted. simple fact.
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LUKE 12 :49- I came to set the earth on fire. And how I wish it were already kindled! |
same as above.
so whats the big deal? |
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Abudosama
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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Steven Luotto
| Quote: | | In this corner you have a prophet who is nailed to the cross for our sins. |
You Stories?
The Legacy?
You are nailing Pops & Nuns. They creates hidden stories in the basements of churches and empty rooms.
| Quote: | and in that corner:
...this other fellow who has 13 wives, raided caravans and ordered people to be crucified, chopped up in quarters. |
IRANAIN's Research.
| Quote: | | In this corner you have an old doddering pope calling for everyone to kiss and make up |
The Legacy?
The sins had already excused now through Atom bombs on Japan, Daisy cutter on Afghan, Cluster bombs on Iraq. HURRAH we have been pardoned by god.
| Quote: | "Oh Allah, help us annihilate the enemies of Islam. Oh Allah destroy their houses! Oh Allah make certain everywhere the victory of the Nation of Islam!"
So whatver's in that Al Kitaab of yours ain't working. |
Show me this prase in Al-Kitaab?
| Quote: | | The Imam was a graduate from that famous school in Egypt, so I reckon he knows the old Kitaab better than you... and even if he don't, he's running the show in MY CITY... |
This is your assumptions he knew nothing Al-Kitaab (Kitaab Allah ) rather he got the knowledge of Kitaab Min doon Alllha ( book other tahn Allah)
| Quote: | | You might also want to facture into the above consideration that the Imam of Italy's second city, Milan, was busted for Terrorism... |
Allah has forbidden unjustified killing by any one muslim or non muslim. If a man have the mask of Imam of a mosque and he kill a person without justice He has the attribute of the Children of Israel ( not Jews) and punishment for him is:-
| Quote: | (Al-Kitaab- Ch:5 V:33)
The punishment of those who wage war ( by killing son(s) of Adams ) against Allah (Lord of The Universe) and His messenger (who deliver them to the clear sign against their mischievous act ): and spread mischief in the land is:
(1)- Execution or
(2)- Crucifixion
(3)- And cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides or
(4)- Exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world
(5)- And a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter. (5/33) |
DO your chritanity have any punishment for the murderer of 2nd World War, Clinton or Bush.
How many Atom Bomb you people have ?
| Quote: | | In this corner you have an old doddering pope calling for everyone to kiss and make up |
The Kiss of Death! 
LUKE 12 :49- I came to set the earth on fire. And how I wish it were already kindled!
The Legacy?
ABUDOSAMA |
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Steven Luotto
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 12:40 am Post subject: Oh Allah |
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| Quote: | | DO your chritanity have any punishment for the murderer of 2nd World War, Clinton or Bush.? |
The best punishment for the murderers of the second world war, is the peace we now take for granted. I can get into my car and drive all the way to Finland without a passport.
It's so sweet! I bet Uncle Adolph and Tio Benito are spinning in their graves like Moulinex blenders.
Not only have they been punished, they have been transcended. Ex Perpetrators and ex victims are the best of friends. The healing balm of reconciliation, inspired by the dominant Judeo-Christian Secular values has worked wonderfully creating our own happy Ummah.
But I imagine restrictions will start to creep in because of Islamic terrorism. Too many Imams stewing in victimization and rankling with hatred. Thanks to Islam, airport check-ins have become hell. Nail clips are considered possible weapons. Nike sports shoes need to be sniffed by specially trained dogs. Unfortunately security comes first. That's what happens when the Imam of Europe's biggest Mosque talks like Bin Laden and Hamas. It's what happens with your murderously confrontational religion. When savagery is preached in the name of justice.
A few days ago, the Roman Imam's sermon and the Meccan Quuttbas': "Oh Allah destroy our enemies" meant Yahoodi kiddies killed on a bus... Yesterday 50 Indians murdered out of the blue. It's the old Islamic kick start of the cycle of violence.
As for Punishing unworthy politicians, most Judeo-Christian- Secular countries have a thing called democracy. It works pretty well and a sight better than the satrapies, royal families, dictatorships that the Islam world has been able to express.
It is my opinion that all Mosques and Islamic centers in Darul Harb need to be monitored and at the first words of incitement to crime (crime as we see it, as defined by our law books) closed.
"Oh Allah bring triumph to the Hindu fighters in Kashmir and Bali and elsewhere in the world. Oh Allah, help us annihilate the enemies of Krishna. Oh Allah make certain everywhere the victory of the Hindu Nation!"
"Oh Allah bring triumph to the Christian fighters in Timor and Sudan and elsewhere in the world. Oh Allah, help us annihilate the enemies of Christ. Oh Allah make certain everywhere the victory of Jesus!"
"Oh Allah stay out of bloody politics! You've made a big mess of it in Darul Islam... We have become FAO, WHO and UNICEF basketcases, our economies are regressing, and we get funny looks at airports! Oh Allah, why is it that the people who pray to you are backward, tribalistic, unemployed, desperate and given to terrorism and mob violence? Why are your children dreaming of escape to the lands of technology and friendly women? Oh Allah why are we stuck with wife-beating, jehabs, Jiyza taxes, women of the right hand? |
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Spinoza
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 1:28 am Post subject: Re: Oh Allah |
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| Quote: | | Oh Allah stay out of bloody politics! You've made a big mess of it in Darul Islam... We have become FAO, WHO and UNICEF basketcases, our economies are regressing, and we get funny looks at airports! Oh Allah, why is it that the people who pray to you are backward, tribalistic, unemployed, desperate and given to terrorism and mob violence? Why are your children dreaming of escape to the lands of technology and friendly women? Oh Allah why are we stuck with wife-beating, jehabs, Jiyza taxes, women of the right hand? |
Bismillah hir Rahman nir Rahim,
Ya Allah, why did you allow the crusaders to land on the lamp amongst the stars (the moon) and why oh why is half our population illiterate. Ya Allah, why oh why are Muslims flocking to Dar-al-Harb, to find work, a home and build a future for their kids?
Ya Allah, most merciful most wise, why did you grant the Jews who cannot be trusted 158 nobel prizes...aren't we your humble slaves? Didn't we memorize the holy Quran which contains ALL knowledge? Why do we, the noble Muslims, only get 8 Nobel prizes (one of which was for mujahid Jasr Arafat) when we make up 1/5 of the worlds population whilst those nasty Jews (0,2% of the worlds population) got 158 Nobel prizes?
Ya Allah, we your humble servants ask for the booty you promised. Now that all our neighbours grew powerful and strong we cannot go a rape, pillage and loot them. Oh, lord of all worlds, creator of the pillars that keep the sky from falling on our heads, creator of man from clay, sperm and blood, why are your slaves so poor these days? Why is it that all the Arab countries combined have a lower GDP than the infidel nation of Spain?
Ya Allah, destroy their universities that educate their children! Ya Allah take down their centres of business, their school, their courthouses that ensure their prosperity. Ya Allah, annihilate free speech, annihilate their right to the pursuit of happiness while you slaves are still grovelling in the dirt. Make a hurricane destroy their cars, busses, factories, their high-ways, their super fast trains, their imaginary 'internet', their so called space programs, their research labs, their libraries. Lord of the night and prince of eternal darkness make burning rocks rain down upon their clean water supply, their efficient sewage systems, their clean airports, their irrigation, their healthy livestock and crops. Make them the slaves to the Muslims. Make them pay for being healthier, richer, stronger, better educated, and more free than the humble Muslims.
Ya Allah, destroy all the so called scientific evidence that supposedly shows that the Quran contains errors, that it is historically incorrect, that is has changed of time, that parts of it are lost, that parts have been plagiarised, the contradictions, the mathematical errors and Islam's pagan heritage. But please do keep in the parts of the Quran and the Sunna that allow us to drink camel urine, beat our wives, have sex with young girls and kill and enslave the unbelievers.
Ya Allah, please guide us on your way. Please keep us backwards for centuries to come, and destroy their knowledge which is like a thorn in our foot. Destroy their wealth which feels like burning acid thrown in our faces! Make their progress disappear, the progress which resembles the agony and hardship of being dug in a hole in the ground, tied up and being slowly killed by kafirs throwing rocks at us. Please Allah, the truth is hurting our brains, keep us far from it. We do not whish to live in the light, we want to serve you and you only. We want to rot in darkness because that is what you demand of us.
Ya Allah, most cruel of all Gods, the best of all deceivers, please let us follow the village idiot Mohammed, the stark raving lunatic from the Arabian Peninsula for ever en ever until the end of times. We praise you for ever and ever, most incomprehensible and carnal of all the imaginary friends.
Allahuakhbar! |
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l l
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 11:04 am Post subject: Re: A Polite Sermon |
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| Quote: | | [quote="Abudosama"]A Polite Sermon |
Your quotes are tidbits. Jews and Christians do not read the Bible literaly, unlike Muslims who read Quran literaly.
| Quote: | Aboudasama:
MATHEW 23 :33. You snakes and sons of snakes! |
Mathew 23:29 to 33
Hypocricy of scribes and Pharisees
29 Woe to you scribes and Pahrisees, you frauds! You erect tombs for the prophets and decorate the monuments of the saints. 30 You say, Had we lived in our forefathers' times we would not have joined them in shedding the prophets' blood. 31 Thus you show you are the sons of the prophets' murderes. 32 Now it is your turn: fill up the vessel measured out by your forefathers. 33 Viper's nest! Brood of serpents! how can you escape condemnation? 34 For this reason I shall send you prophets and wise men and scribes. Some you will kill and crucify, others you will flog in your synagogues and hunt down from city to city.
| Quote: | Aboudasama:
MATHEW 23 :13. You hypocrites! [b] |
Mathew 23:13 to 15
Hypocricy of scribes and Pharisees
13 Woe to you [b]scribes and Pharisees, you frauds. You shut the doors of the kingdom of God in men's faces, neither entering yourself nor admitting those who are trying to enter. 15 Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, you frauds! You travel over sea and land to make a single convert, but once he is converted you make the devil out of him twice as wicked as yourselves.
| Quote: | Aboudasama:
MATHEW 12 :39. [/b]How evil and godless are the people of this day! |
Mathew 12:38 to 39
The Sign of Jonah
38 Some of the scribes and Pharisees then spoke up, saying, "Teacher, we want to see you work some sign." 39 He answered." An evil and unfaithful is eager for a sign! No sign shall be given but that of the prophet Jonah.
| Quote: | Aboudasama:
LUKE 12 :51. Do you suppose that I came to bring peace to the world? No, not peace, but division.
LUKE 12 :49- I came to set the earth on fire. And how I wish it were already kindled! |
When a MUSLIM woman marries a Christian man, she gets killed.
That is not peace, it is division.
Muslims are responsible for murder and division.
When a Muslim man Becomes a Christian, he gets killed.
That is not peace, it is division.
Muslims are responsible for murder and division.
When Muslims blow up TWIN TOWERS, that is not peace, that is division.
When Muslims blow up busses filled with children in Israel because they are Judeo Christian, that is not peace that is division and fire.
And when our friends KuntiPutra, Simbaah, Nihang are full of rage at hearing Christian, that is not peace that is division.
And you know what. The Judeo Christians both believers and seculars have the unprecedent means and power to put an end to fire and conflict ignited by Islam and Muslims. They do not excercise the power because they are burdened by freedom of choice and conscience, two traits missing from Muslims who recite Quran each time they make deadly homicidal strike at Hindus, Christians and Jews and Buddhists in order that they get a quick trip Allah's paradise where 72 virgins specially trained by Allah in the art of carnal pleasures are waiting for the homicidal Muslims who are assured by the Islamic scholars of Al Azhar in Egypt that in Allah's paradise a Muslim has perpetual penis erection.
Shame on you Aboudosama!
best regards |
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Spinoza
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | And you know what. The Judeo Christians both believers and seculars have the unprecedent means and power to put an end to fire and conflict ignited by Islam and Muslims. They do not excercise the power because they are burdened by freedom of choice and conscience, two traits missing from Muslims who recite Quran each time they make deadly homicidal strike at Hindus, Christians and Jews and Buddhists in order that they get a quick trip Allah's paradise where 72 virgins specially trained by Allah in the art of carnal pleasures are waiting for the homicidal Muslims who are assured by the Islamic scholars of Al Azhar in Egypt that in Allah's paradise a Muslim has perpetual penis erection. |
That is SO true. Those nasty jews, their crusader friends and the atheist chinese would be able to wipe out each and every single muslim on earth in a matter of hours if not minutes. But they don't.
I wouldn't even want to know what this world would like like if OBL, the FIS, the GIA, Laskar Jihad, the Taliban or Abu Sajaf wielded such awesome power. |
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Abudosama
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:31 am Post subject: The OT has record who Put Fire and Division |
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| Quote: | | And you know what. The Judeo Christians both believers and seculars have the unprecedent means and power to put an end to fire and conflict ignited by Islam and Muslims. They do not excercise the power because they are burdened by freedom of choice and conscience, two traits missing from Muslims who recite Quran each time they make deadly homicidal strike at Hindus, Christians and Jews and Buddhists in order that they get a quick trip Allah's paradise where 72 virgins specially trained by Allah in the art of carnal pleasures are waiting for the homicidal Muslims who are assured by the Islamic scholars of Al Azhar in Egypt that in Allah's paradise a Muslim has perpetual penis erection. |
The OT has record who Put Fire and Division.
| Quote: | LUKE 12 :51. Do you suppose that I came to bring peace to the world? No, not peace, but division.
LUKE 12 :49- I came to set the earth on fire. And how I wish it were already kindled! |
That's Why he was crucified because of his Sins. By the people who donot want that Fire be ignited and division be made 
| Quote: | | Shame on you Aboudosama! |
For pointing out The Legacy! OF THE PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW THE CRUCIFIED MAN AND OBEY HIS ORDER 
| Quote: | | LUKE 12 :51. Do you suppose that I came to bring peace to the world? No, not peace, but division. |
Spirit :- SO MY SON DIVIDE, DIVIDE, DIVIDE THE WORD INTO MANY FACTIONS, HURRY UP AND DIVIDE, FOLLOW ME.
| Quote: | | LUKE 12 :49- I came to set the earth on fire. And how I wish it were already kindled! |
Spirit:- WITH THE HEALP OF NEPALM BOMB, ATOM BOMB, SMART BOMB, DAISY CUTTER BOB, NEUTRON BOMB, INVENT THESE ARSENAL AND SELL IT TO YOUR FOLLOWER THEY WILL SET THE EARTH ON FIRE, AND YOU MUST BACK THEM UP WITH DOLLERS, DO IT MY CHILDERN, DO IT IF YOU FOLLOW ME I AM THE CHRIST ON THE CROSS, CROSS MEAN FINISH THE HUMANITY, CROSS MEAN WRONG, CROSS MEAN CROSS THEM OUT WHO DO NOT FOLLOW MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, 
YOUR SECULARISM
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Abudosama
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 10:44 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | That is SO true. Those nasty jews, their crusader friends and the atheist chinese would be able to wipe out each and every single muslim on earth in a matter of hours if not minutes. But they don't. |
Who is terrorist Muslim or non-Muslim |
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Abudosama
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| Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | When a MUSLIM woman marries a Christian man, she gets killed.
That is not peace, it is division. |
 How many women are killed?
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5948
| Quote: | | My twenty-six year old daughter was recently targeted, recruited and converted to Islam by some people she met, and introduced to a man(the brother of one of her new "friends". They only met one time, and they became engaged. We stopped the sudden wedding with help from police. |
Muslims are responsible for murder and division.
| Quote: | When a Muslim man Becomes a Christian, he gets killed.
That is not peace, it is division.
Muslims are responsible for murder and division. |
Quote incidents?
| Quote: | When Muslims blow up TWIN TOWERS, that is not peace, that is division.
When Muslims blow up busses filled with children in Israel because they are Judeo Christian, that is not peace that is division and fire. |
Revange is human action not Muslim Action:-
Just tell me what punishment you suggest for a person who:-
1) - you are going to get medicine for your mother who is on death bed, and a pick pocket snatches away your only money.
2) - Enter in your house and forcibly take away every thing.
3) - Rape your sister.
4) - Kill your brother.
5) - maim your fathers hands or feets.
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Devon
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I want too say that I really appreciate people like Steven here who is a responsible Secularist........as a Christian, it does my heart good to see that there are people out there that can see the VAST difference between Christianity and the Cult of Islam..........and especially a person that doesn't believe in neither which makes it all the more impressive that you have the intellectual honesty and acuemen too see this!!
Kudos
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Abudosama
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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Devon
| Quote: | | there are people out there that can see the VAST difference between Christianity and the Cult of Islam |
YES I AGREE,
Christian has changed, altered book of Jesus, and do not follow it too.
| Quote: | | everybee acceped Yes, that is pretty bad. NO Jews or Christians follow Old Testament (Torah) law any more as far as I know (ie. their governments). |
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=114502#114502
Muslim Can not change The Book of Allah, beside they are following it.
See True follower are visiting The House of Allah in Necca, See an example of Peaceful gathering.
I am Insahallah will be performing my Isha prayer in The House of Allah tomorrow (16 Nov 2003 at 0800 p.m,
I will pray for all man kind for bringing the peace for the World and its all creatures, who all are being cold blood murder in atomic test blast, neotron test blast, nepalm test blast, and every arsenal, s test blast, By Terrorist Countries, following Christian Legacy.
| Quote: | LUKE 12 :51. Do you suppose that I came to bring peace to the world? No, not peace, but division.
LUKE 12 :49- I came to set the earth on fire. And how I wish it were already kindled! |
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