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Varanasi
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 Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 12:51 am Post subject: Dogma |
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You make a lot of false accusation without any knowledege of Buddhism.
Is there dogma in Biddhism?
Show the dogma from the relevent suttas of the Buddha.
We do not accept words from you. We are not interested in your opinion about Buddhism
The Buddha has taught his dharma 2,500 years ago.
Do not make false accusations like there is Buddhist dogma. Buddhism has no dogma like god's commandments that cannot be disputed.
Dogma exists in a god religion not in a no god religion like Buddhism.
Next time until and unless you can quote a whole sutta of the teachings of the Buddha your words remain as false accusations and cock and bull story.
I can say that Chritians are despotic like Ferdinand Marcos. Are not the regimes of Christian regimes of South America just as despotic. They are corrupt and drug sellers also. Are the Christian nations of South America democratic?
Was not South Africa under a Chrisyian white rule not practising apartheid? Was not Rodhesia a Christian nation not practising human rights under Ian Smith?
If you are so sincere about human rights all the Christian white man should be chased out of canada USA Australai NZ Bahamas the commonwealth countries of Africa. If not why not?
Do these lands belong to tho the Christians before?
Take your Christian bullshit out of the column. All you have are false accusation and fact twisting.
So can I say Christians like you hate Buddhists by coming to this website.Christian nations like America bomb Vietnam and create wsrs in Korea and Vietnam.
Christians create more wars from the Crusades to World War 1 and 2 anf the Korean Vietnam Irag Occupation of Afghanistan and more trouble all over the world.
Can I not say the same thing? |
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Varanasi
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| Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 1:13 am Post subject: Freewill |
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You said that the Christian god gives man freewill.
If so why did god parted the Red Sea and led the Jews out of Egypt.
Is that not interference?
If god can interfere why did god not interfere on Sep 11 and Oct 12.
Are there no 10 commandments? Can the commandments be broken? If the commandments cannot be broken is there freewill given to mankind?
If it can be broken why is it called commandments as god has given mankind freewill? |
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Varanasi
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| Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 1:17 am Post subject: Holy war |
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| Show the Buddhist website that calls for holy war. |
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Varanasi
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| Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 1:39 am Post subject: Christian jihad |
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It is people like you who gave Christianity a bad name.
You will find Christians intruding into Buddhist websites and Buddhist message boards .
Ghandi said" I would have been a Christian had it not been the Chritians"
You claim that Christianity practises democrecy. Why the saved and the damned? Is that democracy if people choose not to believe in Christ and be damned? Is that really a choice to be damned.
All the god religions are chosen or forsaken,saved and be damned beiliever or non believer. Is that not dividing mankind into enemity?
Of what use is a religion that deals with a supernatural entity and not about mankind itself?
Of what use is a religion that does not deal with life that is here and now but rather deals with a death that no one wver knows?
Is it not more important to deal with the happiness of life?
Has anyone come back from death to tell us that one is really saved?
Has anyone seen god?
If no then god is not relevent especially to this column. If yes show proof of god physically?
If god cannot be understood then we are not interested in god?
If god is something to be feared then I do not fear god as god is only the words of another man. If god is to be believed then I choose not to believe as it comes from another idiot who also has not seen god.
So to prove that your religion is a great religion show your god to us physically or I also challenge your god to create another moon by 31st December 2002.
If your god cannot create another moon by 31st December your god is a fake god . Youmust take your bulshit belief out of this column.
If I do not see your god physically or another moon by 31st December your god is an imaginery god who comes to this Buddhist column to create trouble for others.
OK Christian jihad.
If you keep on posting we will reply with nasty words about your god so much so that your god is nothing more that a dumb god that cannot reply to my nasty words. |
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no_to_islam
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| Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: Christian jihad |
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| Varanasi wrote: | Of what use is a religion that deals with a supernatural entity and not about mankind itself?
Of what use is a religion that does not deal with life that is here and now but rather deals with a death that no one wver knows?
Is it not more important to deal with the happiness of life?
Has anyone come back from death to tell us that one is really saved?
Has anyone seen god?
If no then god is not relevent especially to this column. If yes show proof of god physically?
If god cannot be understood then we are not interested in god?
If god is something to be feared then I do not fear god as god is only the words of another man. If god is to be believed then I choose not to believe as it comes from another idiot who also has not seen god.
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Great thought! Totally agree with you. Ancient Chinese philosopher like Confucius had been thinking about similar questions to yours. His opinion on afterlife/God was: never to bother about afterlife/god. Instead, he taught his students to concentrate only on their lives and practice all the virtues to serve mankind.
I don't think a lier like Jihadjay is intelectually capable to answer your mind-provoking questions. So far, what he/she has done is to flood the forum with blantant lies and twisted facts while evading all the logical arguments from the members.
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Varanasi
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| Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2002 12:15 am Post subject: Colonialism |
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Do not hide the fact that the cause or root of colonialism is evengelism or Christianity,
The problems caused by colonialism is caused by Christianity.
Buddhism is killed in Sri Lanka by the tacit support of the church. The church encourages the colonial government to favour those who convert to Christianity and leave out the Buddhists .
This is the same method used in Vietnam Phillipines Burma and other Asian countries.
Who gave the Christians the right to evemgelise others?
On the other hand it is the white Christians who converted to Buddhism who brought Buddhism to the west. It is not because Christians are tolerant.
On the contrary it is Christianity and the Christians who do not tolerate Buddhism
The church can only come behind the gun and governement. Not before,
Other than that it ihas no appeal |
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Varanasi
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| Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2002 12:22 am Post subject: Dogma |
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There is no dogma in Buddhism.
It is Christianty that is dogmatic. Saved or be damned.
It is the word of god that cannot be inquired upon.
There is no tolerance. Saved or be damned. Believe and you will be saved.
That is dogma.
Buddhism encourages free enquiry.
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/bps/news/essay09.html |
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Varanasi
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| Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2002 12:37 am Post subject: Despot |
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There are no despots in Buddhism. Buddhism is not politics nor control of the masses.
No one saves any one except oneself so where is the despot to be obeyed in Buddhism?
Christianity it is a personality based religion. One is saved by someone else. So the real despot is your god.
Your god needs to be praised,worshiped and petitioned such that your god's ego will expand until your god's arse explodes. Then will your god be happy.
It is Christianity that gives rise to so called saviours like David Koresh, Jim Jones, Sun Moon Yong and thousands of cults.Thosands die in their hands to save themselves from going to hell.
Every day Christian cults spring up in USA.
It is in Christianity that cults are formed from Luther, Wesley, Methodist, Calvin and numerous others.
The real despot are the pope,Sun Moon Yong and the bishops who force people to commit suicide in Africa,
So if people are brought to Buddhism it is to save them from the cult of Christianity and not be a slave to these despots.
It is only in Christianity that there are cults. Thousands of them. So Christianity is a cult. Not a religion.
Got the message?
http://ffrf.org/
It is better for Christianity to die than to let it flourish when it has caused colonialism, poverty, ignorance , wars, Spanish Inquisition Salem witch hunt and train people like you to come to this website and spread lies.
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Varanasi
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| Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2002 12:46 am Post subject: The world saved |
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The world will be saved when the last stone of the last church falls on the last clergy and the last Christian like jihad jay.
Then only will the world live in peace. |
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Varanasi
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| Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2002 1:05 am Post subject: Persecutuion |
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Buddhism teaches not preaches like Christianity.
Buddhism looks up to people not down on people .
So why is there persecution? |
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jihadjay
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| Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 1:30 pm Post subject: VARANASI |
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VARANASI - look what you have just said about Christianity and me; where do you get this hatred from, is it from being a Buddhist follower or admirer, or is it internal hatred.
You see, we have certain realities in this world, and one of these is the reality that Buddhist societies like Cambodia, Thailand, Sri Lanka, and Vietnam, all allow young children to be abused and these children are often sold by their parents, is this Buddhist love?
While nearly all mainly Buddhist societies are despotic and based on hatred of all minorities, why?
In Myanmar both Muslims and Christians have been forced to convert to Buddhism in order to live; while Christian converts in Laos despite only being 2% of the population are put in prison and persecuted.
Why, therefore, are Buddhist societies mainly despotic and based on massive inequality?
India is mainly Hindu and is democratic - Myanmar, Laos, Bhutan, Cambodia, and Vietnam are all mainly Buddhist and despotic, why?
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Gauge
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| Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2003 4:29 am Post subject: |
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Bhutan?!? Despotic?!? Are we talking about the same country?
Cambodia - Agrarian based communism led to despotism, not buddhism or Buddhist motivations
Vietnam - communist-capitalist conflict, not Buddhism or Buddhist motivated (remember the picture of the Buddhist monk on fire in protest?)
Burma - Military Junta, not Buddhism or Buddhist based.
How exactly are you laying the blame at Buddhisms door for the maladies of these countries?
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jihadjay
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| Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 5:42 am Post subject: GAUGE |
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GAUGE - in Bhutan converts to Christianity have been put in prison, while Nepali immigrants have often been put in camps and they are faced with mass discrimination.
My point about mainly Buddhist societies, or nations once influenced by Buddhism, is that they are nearly all either despotic or poor. Why?
For if Buddhism is based on enlightenment and freedom of thought, and given how old Buddhism is, then how could this be?
christianjihad@hotmail.com 
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In support of Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, and other minorities in India.
LONG LIVE CHRISTIAN NAGALAND - AND OPEN YOUR EYES TO RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION IN BUDDHIST COUNTRIES. |
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syamal
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| Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | in Bhutan converts to Christianity have been put in prison, while Nepali immigrants have often been put in camps and they are faced with mass discrimination |
You are right. Taliban is right. They destroyed Bamihan Budha
on behalf of you. Go and kiss Taliban. you are in delirium,
infected by Ganesh virus. You need urgent psychiatric evaluation.
SYAMAL |
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jihadjay
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| Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2003 12:31 pm Post subject: SYAMAL |
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SYAMAL - what are you talking about?
In Bhutan they do persecute Christians and Nepali migrants have been persecuted in Bhutan; anyone can check about this on the internet.
Also, my children go to Buddhist temples in Japan, and Shinto; therefore, why would I support the Taliban?
christianjihad@hotmail.com
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In support of Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, and other minorities in India.
LONG LIVE CHRISTIAN NAGALAND - AND OPEN YOUR EYES TO RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION IN BUDDHIST COUNTRIES. |
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Ari
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2003 7:00 am Post subject: Re: ROSHAN and PAGAN PROPHET - still in denial! |
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AND NO JUDEGEMENT TAKES PLACE - that is funny, so how do you escape the cycle of re-birth if not judged, ha-ha, cool, you are funny! |
Laugh as loud as you like jihadjay, if you keep seeing Eastern religions' notion of karma and reincarnation from your primitive monotheistic glasses, then you will never be able to fathom it. Karma is the law of nature, you sow what you breed, is it that difficult to understand?? There is no need of God to make this law works just like any law works IMPERSONALLY as it's supposed to!
And until then never think you can grasp the notion of enlightenment and the cessation of samsara, it's just beyond your level at the moment okay. 
| Quote: | | PAGAN PROPHET - you think JESUS is strange for coming back to life once - yet how many times have you been reincarnated, ha-ha, funny! |
Because the notion of Jesus coming back in the same look, same body, same everything is indeed funny and fairy-tale like. The Buddhist and Hindu reincarnation are far more sophisticated than that. Learn about their background philosophy first before making yourself a mock in this forum.
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ROSHAN - BUDDHISM AND HINDUISM IS WELCOMED IN THE WEST
SO NO CHRISTIAN NATIONS PERSECUTE BUDDHISTS
BUT BUDDHIST SOCIETIES PERSECUTE CHRISTIANS |
These so called "Christian nations" worked hard long ago to diminish the corrupt influence of the church that had caused a lot of miseries around the globe. These "Christian nations" base their governments on universal values of humanity and democracy which are actually very Buddhistic in nature if you check the Buddha's teachings. I'm not so sure about this so called "persecution" by Buddhists against Christians and Muslims. It's just not in the nature of Buddhism to inspire Buddhists to persecute anyone for religious belief. Sure, that happens in isolation but I'm sure there is a much deeper reason for this other than religious.
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Ari
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2003 7:31 am Post subject: Re: HMMM |
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AT LEAST I DO NOT PASTE PEOPLE AND WHAT THEY STATE - I WRITE WHAT I THINK and no need to PASTE like a child. |
Eh? 
What has quoting someone's statements for clarity in a discussion to do with being "like a child"????
| Quote: | JAPAN LIKE YOU STATED IS 90% Shinto, and also more than 70% BUDDHIST and I did state that this was due to fusion, but SHINTO is the dominant religion and the EMPEROR OF JAPAN WAS SEEN TO BEING LIKE A LIVING SHINTO DIETY IN THE PAST.
AND PROTESTANT CHRISTIANITY REVOLUTIONISED THE WORLD VIA SCIENCE, CAPITALISM, INNOVATION, INDIVIDUALISM, and it is rare to find a poor Protestant country. |
You know Jihadjay, you are ranting right and left and see no absurdity in your reasoning. How did protestant christianity do that for god's sake????
| Quote: | | NEARLY EVERY BUDDHIST NATION IS POOR - simple. |
Many have told you that Buddhism has nothing to do with their poverty. It's more about the fact that these countries are governed by military dictatorships and many other factors other than religion (like education, the fact that they are "young" states with political instability, etc). And you have to also look in their mental state to judge a people, they may be poor physically but they may be rich in other ways that few rich people are.
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JESUS WAS BORN A REFUGEE
JESUS NEVER HAD AN ARMY
JESUS SAVED THE PROSTITUTE
JESUS NEVER KILLED ANYONE or told people to kill anyone
JESUS HAD NO MATERIAL WEALTH
JESUS WAS PURE AND JUST TAUGHT LOVE
JESUS HELPED THE POOR
JESUS EVEN FORGAVE WHEN DYING |
Yes but chistianity is not necessarily related to Jesus's universal teachings. Christianity that we know today is based on the hatred of anything non-Christian just like Islam. Any religion that claims the only way to salvation is through its own sets of creed is fascist ok, nuff said. And Buddhism and Hinduism don't even belong to this kind fascism.
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Vaishnav
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2003 11:46 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | However, Christianity is 40% in South Korea; 10% in Vietnam; 11% in Myanmar; 8% in Sri Lanka; so that proves nothing. |
These figures are highly skewered with perhaps the exception of Sri Lanka and maybe Vietnam.
Today it is hard to call many western countries Christian, simply because the church has very limited support and the people are very nominally christian if chrsitian at all. Neverthless when chrsitianity had a stranglehold on Europe it could hardly have been considered tolerant society. We know that by the attitude towards Jews, Muslims and pagans.
There is no writing in Buddhism that advocates harm to others, there is no claim to Buddhism being the only path. Myanmar is not governed by Buddhist law, but by a dictatorship.
Chrisitianisation of western countries will not transofrm them into floursihing societies. Yes the missionaries may plough money in in an attempt to increase their flocks. Loof at the most chrsitianised nation in SE Asia, the Philippines. it is just as poor if not even worse of than many of its Buddhist and Muslim neighbours. |
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Mullah Mo
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| Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 10:03 pm Post subject: Re: PAGAN PROPHET and ROSHAN - very funny people! |
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| jihadjay wrote: |
I have told you about Bhutan, Sri Lanka, Laos, Vietnam, and the worst nation of them all Myanmar. So is it that your stupid statements are mere empty words, so just stick to this point!
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How much do you know about Burma. And stop calling Myanmar. It's Burma. Please tell me how much do you know Burma????
Then I will answer your qurstion. |
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Varanasi
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| Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 3:44 am Post subject: Persecutions |
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Do not forget about child abuse of innocent children by Christian clergy.
My foot, Buddhist persecute Christians.
The Christian religion is full of scandals and suicides con artists that it should be banned for the sake of human sanity.
Do not come here to play cry baby. |
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Varanasi
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