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S.D.
Joined: 11 Apr 2003 Posts: 5
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 11:22 am Post subject: Noam Chomsky--Too Much Credit? |
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Many refer to him as the intellect we all “love to hate” or the guy many would “love to know more about”. Noam Chomsky, has been labeled everything from a communist to the envisionist of a better "way of life" which some people actually say someone like Christ would have preferred! Actually, where in the world today can we see an example of a "Noam Chomsky model" of society?
I like many, was raised in the West. I have a slightly Capitalist nature in my bones. I have trouble seeing any other way to run the business world. Yet, there are times I see the true nature of the beast at work. For example: I am part of a Union and know that the reason I have "a union" is because the people obviously voted one in. What does this say to you? That the company has perhaps failed the worker? How come some companies need no unions yet people, are happy? I guess the point is unions emerge when a company has failed the worker.
More importantly, I would like to hear from you folks here on this forum! What do you think of Noam Chomsky in general?
For example why does the USA aka Uncle Sam, bother to trade with Saudi for oil? Why not just take it from them. Since I’m no American activist—I am Canadian and I gather from your posts that neither are you, then I assume we both know the USA has some real nasty skeletons in their closet--True Apathy
Yet what I’m driving at is, if there is a true clash of civilizations or religions, then why does not the USA hit Saudi? Perhaps there is no clash of faith after all and the USA is not so pro-Christian as people think?
Also, Noam Chomsky is known to give support to the Palestinians over Israel. Now I know this is due to politics like the illegal building of housing complexes on Palestinian lands etc but Noam tends to stay away from any religious aspect part of any discussions--in fact he tends to avoid religion completely! Now I know most "so-called intellects tend to avoid religious discussions because they often find the subject just too silly or taboo.
My second question to you all is: do you feel Noam Chomsky has been granted too much praise, as an authority figure and do you believe he has supported any religious or political power in any in-direct way which we should be overly concerned about?
Please post your thoughts here: 
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Jack

Joined: 09 Aug 2002 Posts: 278
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Useful Idiot,
Smart Person Stupid,
His acute sense of moral responsiblity strikes me as whinning.
His self loathing of the US slides into paronia.
His Academic residence borders on hypocrisy. He's like the protestors at the G-8's. Who has the time or money to fly around the world and trash city after city.
Noam gets to sit in his ivory tower and throw rocks at everyone and just to prove he's fair he even rips on the Intellectuals.
At some point you would have figured he would have moved to France?
Ararchist/Libertarian socialist? Whinney Academic? Its just depends on your world view.
The dangerous problems with Noam and his like is that they are so stuck in "oppostional" mode that completely miss the point on alot of issues.
Beyond that it is his generations inability to take responsibility for what happened after Vietnam. Dig through the posts here written by "Nomad".
Maybe the US checked communism in Cuba, SE Asia and Central America.
The question which the US always has to answer is do we go?
American Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korea, SE Asia, The Cold War, Middle East.
Noam doesn't have to answer the really tough questions its a luxury he has.
In his interviews regarding 9/11 he plugs the events into his world view.
The US. is bad. The US trained Bin Laden, Muslims are oppressed, supporting Israel is a crime, etc etc.
Again with the myopic, leftitest, socialist view of the world.
Whats funny is if you read enough of his stuff it starts to sound like a 17 year old in high school. Righteous and pious but not necessarily well thought out true or correct.
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S.D.
Joined: 11 Apr 2003 Posts: 5
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Good point Jack!
It seems to me, the Noam Chomsky "idea" of society is very hard to come by. In fact Noam Chomsky mentioned once "how it all depends on what type of society you want". It’s the stuff of fairy tales, no doubt.
Now, do all people really have the same sewage systems available? I mean do farmers have or even need a flush toilet? Chomsky seems to feel we all should no matter what, even if the farmer says no, he’d rather use a hole in the gound.
I mean it’s kind of nice to want the guys next door to have the same, say Medicare as you or sewage but unfortunately in Canada, that same and fair Medicare has begun to waste! We all get the same lousy service
I will dig through the posts here written by "Nomad".
Cheers,
S.D.
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bread Guest
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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Noam Chomsky is a hypocrite. He was saying for ages that if USA and the WEST really did care about moralyty and democracy, they would first of all impose such values against their clients. When USA did that against Serbia, Iraq, Afghanistan and Haity, (to give just a few examples) Chonsky instead of applauding this, goes to 180 degrees and CONDEMNS this morality, international law based policy and calls it imperialism.
That this is the exact same thing Chomsky advocated for 3-4 decades it doesnt matter to this cameleon. He is always in opposition, even to his avowed principles for 3-4 decades. If he HIMSELF is not put in charge of his brain child policy, Chomsky throws a tantrum and accuses in vitriolic terms those who in a way are implementing HIS dream foreign policy ideals.
Go figure. The drugs and sex parties destroyed this guys brain. He still enjoys adulation, but the subdstance of his work is not really what it used to be. Also, bear in mind, that since Chomsky condemns a US policy which mirrors his own recomandations of 3-4 decades, it in effect is nullifying his entire work up to now.
Inconsistency? Or the true nature of the man coming out?
Either way, he is tainted and negated by his own words.
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everybee
Joined: 03 May 2003 Posts: 858
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:52 am Post subject: |
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For example why does the USA aka Uncle Sam, bother to trade with Saudi for oil? Why not just take it from them. Since I’m no American activist—I am Canadian and I gather from your posts that neither are you, then I assume we both know the USA has some real nasty skeletons in their closet. Yet what I’m driving at is, if there is a true clash of civilizations or religions, then why does not the USA hit Saudi? Perhaps there is no clash of faith after all and the USA is not so pro-Christian as people think?
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For a supposedly peaceful country, Canada sure is helping people build nuclear weapons. Why doesn't Canada invade Saudi Arabia?
http://www.ccnr.org/myth_1.html
http://www.ccnr.org/myth_2.html#ind
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/1995/213/213p20.htm
This is a good article about Chomsky.
http://exile.ru/129/129070001.html |
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S.D.
Joined: 11 Apr 2003 Posts: 5
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 12:42 am Post subject: |
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"Mission Complete"
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everybee
Joined: 03 May 2003 Posts: 858
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 6:18 am Post subject: |
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Another thing, Canada stole land from the Native Americans just like every other country in North and South America.
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S.D.
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 10:52 am Post subject: |
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