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Should ISLAMIC AND BUDDHIST SOCIETIES LOOK TO INDIA?

 
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jihadjay



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 2:28 am    Post subject: Should ISLAMIC AND BUDDHIST SOCIETIES LOOK TO INDIA? Reply with quote

Should Islamic and Buddhist societies look to India?

Buddhism and Islam are based on equality (Islam, this solely applies to Muslims, for non-Muslims are not equal in Islamic law). YET IT IS HINDUISM WHICH ALLOWS DEMOCRACY AND RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.

If you concentrate on nations surrounding INDIA, it is clear that both Islamic societies and Buddhist societies are based on exclusion, and that non-followers of both faiths are persecuted. Also, Islamic and Buddhist nations are undemocratic and based on limited elites who rule.

YET INDIA IS A BEACON OF DEMOCRACY - and not only is religious freedom and democracy part of the NEW INDIA, but dalits have places reserved for them in government and, these POLICIES ARE MORE ENLIGHTENED THAN WESTERN POLICIES.

So should Islamic and Buddhist societies look to India and the Indian government?

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jihadjay



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2002 3:43 am    Post subject: Everyone must agree Reply with quote

Everyone must agree for once Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2003 4:29 am    Post subject: ANY VIEWS ON THIS? Reply with quote

Anyone with views on this topic?

For it is ironic that Hinduism, in which caste and many gods are part of its faith, is apparently modernizing, while mainly Islamic and Buddhist nations surrounding India are despotic and in chaos.

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Mullah Mo



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 1:30 pm    Post subject: Everyone must agree for once Reply with quote

Again you have missed the boat. Please don’t ever compare Islam and Buddhism again. Islam is a religion with a complete set of laws that governs the people.

Buddhism on the other hand has no political aims. All of the governments of these so-called Buddhist countries are either Socialist or Communist governments.

Every time you look like a fool. You must think first before you move Jay. Why do you put your self through this agony??
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Ari



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Everyone must agree for once Reply with quote

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Every time you look like a fool. You must think first before you move Jay. Why do you put your self through this agony??


Ummmm...lemme guess, mental illness??? Cool

Jihadjay, Buddhism is a personal religion, anyone can follow it or ignore it and only anyone is sincere enough in the acceptance and undertaking of Buddhist precepts can call himself a Buddhist. So your arguments go in the dustbin each and everytime. Plonk...!

And what happens with the despotic rules that Christian Africans have to endure in their countries in which the majority are Christians? And what about the poor Muslims who are excluded and persecuted by the barbaric Phillipino Christians? Wink Shouldn't they all look to India too??? Or does your brain defect cause it to only be able to see faults in Buddhism for no reason?? Cool


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 3:50 am    Post subject: More hatred Reply with quote

More hatred from a so-called Buddhist or humanist, well, nothing new, hey? Laughing Laughing

The point I was trying to make, was that unlike Islamic societies in this region and Buddhist societies in this region; it is clear that mainly Hindu India supports democracy and this nation is trying to modernize on the basis of justice and trying to eradicate cronyism and corruption.

Of course the Indian leadership needs to do a lot more, yet India could become a model in the region; for despite major ethnic and religious problems; it is clear that many sectors of India are dynamic.

India is a nation which is multi-ethnic and multi-religious, and like Malaysia under Islam; this land supports democracy and both nations are trying to help their citizens. Of course the colonial period means that this will take longer, but nations like India and Malaysia are dynamic, and both nations are role models for the region.

That is the point I was trying to make, and once more it should be noted that Buddhist societies on the whole could never become role models at this give time in history; for they are not only backward and preserve elitism, but Buddhism does not offer the masses hope.

Whatever you think about groups like the Islamic Brotherhood or Hindu RSS, it is clear that they both offer a social policy based on justice and tackling issues like poverty.

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Mullah Mo



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 9:21 pm    Post subject: Re: More hatred Reply with quote

jihadjay wrote:
More hatred from a so-called Buddhist or humanist, well, nothing new, hey?



Stop jocking Islam, they won’t pay you a dime for being a Christian.
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Nihang



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 3:10 am    Post subject: Re: More hatred Reply with quote

Mullah Mo wrote:



they won’t pay you a dime for being a Christian.


Yes they do! Much more than a dime is paid to become Christian in India. Sometimes polyester pants are distributed to win over illiterates in christendom. Jobs are doled out to poorest people to change their allegiace to Christianity. Every years hundreds of missionaries land in India with bibles and bags of dollars to buy new converts, the poorest and most vulnerable of the mankind.

I am glad Buddhist countries have seen through the Christian missionaries and have taken strong counter measures. That is why some Jihadjays hate Buddhist countries.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2003 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The communists are not inspired by Buddhism but on the contrary are trying to stamp out Buddhism. Buddhism is a very peaceful infact if I have a complain about Buddhism it is they become too soft for their own good. That is why former Buddhist countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan and Central Asia is Muslim today. But of course the Chinese and Japanese set a very good example of not neglecting martial arts. Now I dont mean to say one should hate the enemy. Loving the enemy is fine but love him and still fight him. Even guys like Osama have divinity in him, but that does not mean one should not fight him.

That is the only complaint I see in Buddhism. Or the particular brand of Buddhism practised in certain geographical locations.
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Vaishnav



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 12:19 pm    Post subject: re: Is Malaysia a model? Reply with quote

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India is a nation which is multi-ethnic and multi-religious, and like Malaysia under Islam; this land supports democracy and both nations are trying to help their citizens. Of course the colonial period means that this will take longer, but nations like India and Malaysia are dynamic, and both nations are role models for the region.


India has its problems, but it remains secular. Malaysia favours Bhumiputras the vast majority muslims and Malays are not permitted by law to be anything but Muslim.
2/3 of government jobs are reserved for them even though they are not a 2/3 majority. The reason put forward is that the chinese dominate the economy and the Malays are economically disadvantaged. Then what of the 8% mostly hindu Indians????

This is exclusion and double standards. I am not sure it is that great a role model.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 2:12 am    Post subject: VAISHNAV Reply with quote

VAISHNAV - thank you for your reply, and the same applies to others! Laughing Laughing

I agree that some problems may exist in Malaysia, however, on the whole this nation is dynamic and Islam, Christianity, Hindusim, Buddhism, and other faiths do have relative freedom, albeit with certain restrictions - yet the economy is dynamic and this nation is much more open and free than nearly all her regional nations.

If we look at India, and then her neighbours, for example Pakistan, Nepal, Myanmar, Bangladesh, and others, like China, then it is clear that democracy in India is a beackon in a region which is despotic - also, India is dynamic in many sectors, for example skilled workers in the Information Technology sector, developing future high tech aircraft, and other sectors - at the same time the mass media in India is very diverse and you have many fusions and ideas within India.

Therefore, India should be a role model and India should be given special economic aid and major regional organizations like ASEAN should focus on the India model -

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