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Amiroo
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 Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 9:53 am Post subject: Was Buhha an Iranian?? |
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He seems to be from where is today Afghanistan or Samarkand, the Heart Land of Iranian curture 3000 years ago.
Could it be that he was Iranian too?
Would he have been influenced by Zarathustra or is it the other way round? |
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Spinoza
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 10:03 am Post subject: Re: Was Buhha an Iranian?? |
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| Amiroo wrote: | He seems to be from where is today Afghanistan or Samarkand, the Heart Land of Iranian curture 3000 years ago.
Could it be that he was Iranian too?
Would he have been influenced by Zarathustra or is it the other way round? |
I don't think so...he was from NE India wasn't he? |
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Amiroo
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 10:08 am Post subject: NE of India, not NE India |
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That's my point, he seems to have been from NE of India, not within India itself.
Places like Bamian in Afghanistan and further north where never part of India and Vedic culture.
So, off hand, though it doesn't matter what his ethnic and racial heritage was, he seems very much an Iranian. |
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Spinoza
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 10:15 am Post subject: Re: NE of India, not NE India |
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| Amiroo wrote: | | That's my point, he seems to have been from NE of India, not within India itself. |
NE, of india is near Nepal, Buthan etc. Aghanistan and Iran are to the WEST not to the east.
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Places like Bamian in Afghanistan and further north where never part of India and Vedic culture. |
Yes.
| Quote: | | So, off hand, though it doesn't matter what his ethnic and racial heritage was, he seems very much an Iranian. |
Well, he wasn't. Unless Iran stretched all the way to Myanmar. |
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Amiroo
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 10:38 am Post subject: I meant NW, not NE |
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Sorry my mistake, I meant NW, not NE.
Though I know some Indian literature state that he was from NE, near Nepal, I have also seen sources that claim this is not correct or not proven and he was more likely to be from the same place Zardosht was from, North Afghanistan.
Don't know really. Any idea where the proof comes that he was from Nepal area? Legend, or Archeology? |
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Spinoza
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: I meant NW, not NE |
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| Amiroo wrote: | Sorry my mistake, I meant NW, not NE.
Though I know some Indian literature state that he was from NE, near Nepal, I have also seen sources that claim this is not correct or not proven and he was more likely to be from the same place Zardosht was from, North Afghanistan.
Don't know really. Any idea where the proof comes that he was from Nepal area? Legend, or Archeology? |
I have no clue. Though the language used to write down his sayings might reveal this...or his name....I think it is generally acceted he's from the nw...some sri-lankans stole pieces of some sacred tree and a part of his tooth from over there...
but I could be very wrong...ask mr. google? |
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R_Nelson
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Mullah Mo
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 5:15 pm Post subject: Re: Was Buhha an Iranian?? |
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| Amiroo wrote: | He seems to be from where is today Afghanistan or Samarkand, the Heart Land of Iranian curture 3000 years ago.
Could it be that he was Iranian too?
Would he have been influenced by Zarathustra or is it the other way round? |
I’ve read some materials concerning Zarathustran. I think it’s a wonderful religion. It’s deep and mysterious. It resembles a lot to the Eastern religions or philosophies. That’s my opinion at lease.
Here’s an example of some of the stuff I’ve read.
The first few sentences on a website said:
We have studied the politics and battles, the Kings and conquests of the Persians. We have spent little time on their inner life of the mind. What was it that moved Cyrus to those unprecedented acts of compassion and understanding? Why did he exercise so much tolerance when dealing with those whom he had conquered. Part of the answer is to be found in the religion of the Persian prophet Zarathustra.
http://www.worldhistory1a.homestead.com/zarathustra.html
The circle in the center of the figure represents the soul of the individual, given wings to represent its upward quest for enlightenment. There are five layers of feathers, representing the five gathas, the five divisions of the day, and the five senses. The two curved legs on either side of the circle represent the opposing forces of Spenta Mainyu (Good Mind) and Angra Mainyu (Evil Mind), which pull and tear at the soul. To move toward Spenta Mainyu, the soul is given a rudder, represented by the tail. Here there are three layers of feathers, signifying the three Asha: Humata (Good Thoughts), Hukhta (Good Words), and Hvarasta (Good Deeds), which enable the soul to progress towards its goal. The figure in the center (representing the individual) holds a circular ring, which symbolizes the cycle of rebirth through which the soul is purified in order to obtain frasho-kereti, or ultimate union with Ahura Mazda.
http://www.zoroaster.net/indexe.htm
How beautiful was that?? Muslims told me they worship fire but when I started studying it, I fuond out it was a total lie. Like all the other lies they’ve told. To compare this religion with Islam is like comparing gold with dirt.
When I hear Muslims talk bad about Zarathustran, I think about this saying a famous Eastern teacher said. “It is as a man would look up and spit at the heaven – the spittle does not soil the heaven, but it comes back and defiles his own person.”
I guess the Arabian export doesn’t have what it takes to cut the butter….lol.. |
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Vaishnav
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| Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 5:58 am Post subject: re: |
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Buddha was born In What is now Eastern Nepal near the border with India, the place being Lumbini.
He was born into the Sakhya clan. That is the generally accepted history. I do not think he was Iranian. Perhaps the Sakhyas had origins there, but there is no evidence to suggest so. Alot of ancient Indian History (or any where in the world) is pretty vague. |
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rohitas
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