Faith Freedom International

Susan · Joined: 06 Apr 2002 Posts: 2727 Location: none

Shayna, are you capable of carrying on a discourse in an intelligent manner? Or are you simply interested in heckling people with insults and obscenity?

If it's the latter reason then perhaps you'd be happier at killthekaffirs.com or some other such discussion forum.

Shayna · Joined: 01 Jul 2002 Posts: 8 Location: UK

Amir i have read the Qur'an, Arabic and English version! i never went to the mosque i was taught at home. i learnt everything from my Hajji/Hafiz father. so trust me i may not know everything but i know enough to be able to call myself a proud muslim.

how exactly was it 'liberating' to let go of the most beautiful thing in the world?

Shayna · Joined: 01 Jul 2002 Posts: 8 Location: UK

oh come on Susan - this is just gud ol' British humor!!

arifqurashi · Joined: 27 Feb 2002 Posts: 322

Mahavira · Joined: 02 Jun 2002 Posts: 76 Location: somewhere :)

Sam · Joined: 01 Jul 2002 Posts: 106

Shayna,

Hey, I heard the kafirs in the U.K. are sick and tired of Muslims living off the welfare system, beating their wives, and breeding like rats. So tell me - After I accept Muhammed (the fly guy with a 9 year old sex slave), would you want to "talak talak talak" your husband and his wives for greener grass this side of the Atlantic? I think you and I would make a great couple, I could take advantage of your poor self-esteem and questionable command of the English language by abusing you physically, emotionally and sexually, then saying the "Allah wants it this way". What do you say, luv?

Also, If you want I can get a great looking black veil for you, and even arrange for a female circumcision - but you probably are aready, no?

Well, let me know soon - I think you can provide the kind of fun I need before I get my 72 virgins and 8 boys (between you and me, I'm trading my 8 boys for 40 virgins, Dawood is really into young boys)

-Sam :D

Susan · Joined: 06 Apr 2002 Posts: 2727 Location: none

Dear Sam,

It doesn't help this forum in anyway when you return crude and insulting behavior with the same. How about a little civility?

We appreciate it so much :))))

Varanasi · Joined: 21 Aug 2002 Posts: 470

To those who convert to islam please come to Iran.

You are welcome here.

All those islam people living in kafir land are most welcome to Iran.

http://www.geocities.com/hammihanirani/crimes.html

Rim · Joined: 25 Oct 2002 Posts: 2 Location: Los Angeles

why do you have so much hate in your hearts against muslims?
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"Avant de liberer les hommes il faut liberer leurs esprits"

perfanalyst · Joined: 14 Feb 2002 Posts: 867

Why do you believe that we hate Muslims? Our efforts are focused on getting people to read the Quran and the hadiths. Isn't that you want too? When we complain about Muslims, we point out what actions we object to. Such as killing, raping, dealing drugs, pedophilia, imprisoning women for being raped, ... We don't make these things up, we cite many examples and show how these Muslims point to the Quran to justify their actions. Don't you also object to these things? We believe that Muslims are victims and we are searching for ways to help them.

ExHindu · Joined: 25 Feb 2002 Posts: 204 Location: USA

Ampbreia · Joined: 10 Oct 2002 Posts: 476 Location: U.S.A.

Islam is a formal Belief and any formal belief system requires the rejection of all information to the contrary of it, no matter how substantial it is. It is a very strong sort of mental programming that registers all questioning as outright attacks. They feel as though they will be condemned and burn in Hell for Eternity for even thinking about questions. Even if the "counter" information comes from the believer's core resource, e.g. the Koran, it will be filtered with such mental qualifications as "Oh that's just symbolism; it isn't meant to be taken literally," or "That can't mean what I think it does; I'm just not smart enough to understand," or, dangerously, "It's literally true but justified because God says so," or "The end justifies the means."

This is where these Muslims are coming from and why they don't hold up well in a debate. Instead, because their Belief is being challenged, they resort to insults, personal attacks, circular arguments, and eventual silence. I think most of us have been there before finally breaking free and allowing ourselves to question things fairly. Please be kind to those here who are still in chains; it is a kind of handicap for them. At least they are talking to us. That's something. Maybe they will eventually calm down and discourse with us in rational manner if no one of us lowers themselves to exchange insults with them. They cannot help their defensiveness. At least they are not hiding.

Ampbreia · Joined: 10 Oct 2002 Posts: 476 Location: U.S.A.

By the by, beards are required for men in strictly Islamic nations. When you asked Amir (was it?) if he was old enough to shave, it must have sounded either funny or threatening to him. The Taleban, for instance, was in the habit of cutting off the noses of men without beards, Muslim or not. I saw some pictures of this - by accident; it was pretty awful.