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Islam's powerful message of Love and Tolerance
* according to islam-qa.com, one of the most visited, most refered-to and most popular islamic question & answer sites *
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Islam's powerful message of Love & Tolerance - 1
Question #38125: Iftaar with non-Muslims
http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=38125&dgn=4
| Quote: | Question :
Is it haram to have iftar with non muslims like hindu,christian.etc...?.
Answer :
Praise be to Allaah.
It is permissible to have iftaar with non-Muslims if there is a shar’i reason for doing so, such as calling them to the true religion, or softening their hearts towards Islam, etc, which are what is hoped for if they come and eat iftaar at the tables set up for communal iftaar, as happens in some countries. But if it is done just to be friendly towards them and enjoy their company, this is a dangerous matter, because the principle of al-wala' wa'l-bara' (befriending the believers and showing enmity towards the disbelievers) is one of the basic principles of Islam, and one of the most important duties of the believers. ...
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Islam's powerful message of Love & Tolerance - 2
Question #2322: Is wearing jeans imitating the kuffaar?
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Is wearing jeans considered imitating the kuffar or is it
ok?
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Praise be to Allaah.
...... The scholars also made an exception concerning Muslims wearing the distinctive clothes of the kuffaar when living in daar al-harb (non-Muslim countries which are at war with Muslims) or for purposes which will benefit the Muslims. Shaykh al-Islaam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
"When a Muslim is living in a non-Muslim land (whether or not it is hostile to Islam), he is not expected to differ from them (the kuffaar) in his outward appearance, because of the harm that may result (from dressing as a Muslim). It is preferable, even obligatory, for a man to look like them sometimes, if that will achieve some religious purpose such as calling them to Islam, finding out their secrets in order to tell the Muslims about them, repelling their harm from the Muslims, and other worthwhile aims. But in the Muslim lands where Allaah has caused His religion to prevail, and where the kuffaar are in an inferior position and are paying jizyah (taxes paid by non-Muslims living under an Islamic government), it is obligatory for Muslims to look different from the kuffaar." (Iqtidaa' al-Siraat al-Mustaqeem, 1/418).
It is clear from the above that jeans are not clothes that are characteristic of the kuffaar or worn only by them, so they are not haraam. However, it is more befitting for the Muslim to try to wear distinctive Islamic dress wherever he is, in obedience to the way of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). The Muslim should feel in his heart that he hates the kuffaar and the way they look and behave. This hatred will motivate him to avoid looking like them at all in the way he dresses or in other ways. Do you not see that a person who despises a people or tribe, or people from a certain country, will hate to dress like them, especially if they are poor. As Shaykh al-Islam (Ibn Taymiyah) said: "Looking like them in external appearance indicates that one loves them in one's heart, and vice versa." And Allaah knows best.
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Islam's powerful message of Love & Tolerance - 3
Question #27211: Should he go back and live in a kaafir country?
http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=27211&dgn=4
| Quote: | ... There are two basic conditions which must be met before staying in kaafir countries:
The first condition is: that the person must be secure in his religious commitment, so that he has enough knowledge, faith and will power to ensure that he will adhere firmly to his religion and beware of deviating or going astray, and that he has an attitude of enmity and hatred of the kaafirs and will not befriend them and love them, for befriending them and loving them are things that contradicts faith.
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Islam's powerful message of Love & Tolerance - 4
Question #11793: Being friends with non-Muslims
http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=11793&dgn=4
| Quote: | .... Even if they give you some of your rights by treating you nicely, they do not give Allaah His rights and they do not give the Qur’aan its rights and they do not give our Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) his rights. The rights of Allaah and His Book and His Prophet are more important than our personal rights. Remember this, for this is one of the things that will help you to hate them and regard them as enemies until they believe in Allaah alone, as mentioned in the aayah quoted above ...
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Islam's powerful message of Love & Tolerance - 5
Question #2179: Clarification of the important rule: it is haraam to take kaafirs as close friends and protectors
http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=2179&dgn=4
| Quote: | .... It is also forbidden to honour them, give them titles of respect, initiate greetings to them, give them the best seats in gatherings, and give way to them in the street.
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Do not be the first to greet a Jew or a Christian (do not initiate the greeting), and if you meet one of them in the street, then push him to the narrowest part of the way.” ....
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Islam's powerful message of Love & Tolerance - 6
Question #43322: Who are the Naasibis and what is the ruling on them?
http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=43322&dgn=4
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With regard to the ruling on the Khaarijis – who have a similar mentality to the Shi’ah and added to that hatred of the Sahaabah, regarding the one who commits a major sin as a kaafir, and other kinds of bid’ah – there is some difference of opinion among the scholars. Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said:
The ummah is agreed on condemning of the Khaarijis and regarding them as having gone astray, but they dispute as to whether they are to be regarded as kaafirs. There are two well-known views in the Madhhabs of Maalik and Ahmad. In the madhhab of al-Shaafa’i there is also a dispute as to whether they are kaafirs. Hence there are two views in the madhhab of Ahmad.
The first is that they are wrongdoers, and the second is that they are kaafirs like the apostates, so it is permissible to kill them first, to kill those taken prisoner, and to pursue those who run away. If possible they should be asked to repent as in the case of apostates: if they repent all well and good, otherwise they are to be executed.
Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 28/518.
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Islam's powerful message of Love & Tolerance - 7
Question #182: Ruling on loving non-Muslims
http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=182&dgn=4
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As for your statement: "I deeply love my girlfriend's parents even though they rejected our religion," by Allah it is extremely astonishing how a Muslim man that believes in Allah and the last day can love people who are non-believers that don't believe in Allah and the last day and don't forbid what Allah forbids and don't practice the religion of truth and also refuse the religion of Islam??! Is this not a clear violation of Allah's statement in the Qur'an in surat al-Mujadlilah 58:22 (interpretation of the meaning):
"You will not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, making friendship with and loving those who oppose Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad- Peace and Blessings of Allah be Upon Him), even if they are their fathers or their sons or their kindred…"
We are not saying to you curse them or pick up arms against them; however, it is obligatory upon you to abhor them for their disbelief and their denial of the Lord of the worlds and to hate the invalid and untruthful religion that they are practicing. On the other hand, there is no objection for you to treat them with kindness—while disliking them in your heart—and to be amicable towards them so that perhaps Allah will guide them through you. You will find no conflict or contradiction between these two ideas if you consider them carefully. ....
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Question #23325: Making friends with a kaafir woman
http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=23325&dgn=3&
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Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan said: There is nothing wrong with visiting kaafirs in order to call them to Islam. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) visited his paternal uncle Abu Taalib when he was dying and called him to Islam, and he visited the Jewish boy and called him to Islam.
But visiting kaafirs in order to have a good time with them is not permitted, because it is obligatory to hate them and shun them. ...
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Islam's powerful message of Love & Tolerance - 9
Question #26139: A brief look at the beliefs of the Druze
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Can you give me a brief idea about the beliefs of the Druze? What is the Islamic ruling concerning them?
Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.
..... Shaykh al-Islam also said, refuting the ideas of some sects of Druze:
The fact that these groups are kaafirs is something concerning which there is no dispute among the Muslims. Rather whoever doubts that they are kaafirs is a kaafir like them. They do not have a status like that of the People of the Book or of the mushrikeen, rather they are misguided kaafirs and it is not permissible to eat their food, their women may be taken captive and their wealth may be confiscated. They are heretics and apostates whose repentance cannot be accepted, rather they should be killed wherever they are found, and they may be cursed because of what they are. It is not permissible to employ them as guards and gatekeepers. Their scholars and leaders must be killed, lest they lead others astray. It is haraam to sleep with them in their houses or to be friends with them, or to walk with them or to attend their funerals, if their death is announced. It is haraam for the Muslim authorities to neglect to carry out the hadd punishment that Allaah has enjoined by whatever means they see fit. And Allaah is the One Whose help we seek and in Whom we put our trust.
From the fatwas of the Standing Committee for Academic Research and Issuing Fatwas.
Majallat al-Buhooth al-Islamiyyah, 36/85-89.
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| could someone please tell me what "iftar", "haram", & "shar'i" means? |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 2:08 pm Post subject: Nice psots CroMagnon |
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Very infomative posts Indeed mr CroMagnon 
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iftar: meal served at the end of the day during Ramadan, to break the day's fast. Literally, "breakfast."
haram: forbidden, prohibited / sanctuary, a sacred territory (cf. harem: section of a house set apart for the women of the family in a Muslim home)
shar'i: according to islamic law/sharia
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I've been thinking about this for awhile. If haram means the same as forbidden and sanctuary, doesn't this mean that the sanctuary is forbidden to the people? Which means, they shouldn't be making Hajj?   |
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| Ibn Rushd wrote: | | I've been thinking about this for awhile. If haram means the same as forbidden and sanctuary, doesn't this mean that the sanctuary is forbidden to the people? Which means, they shouldn't be making Hajj? |
Actually, Ibn Rushd,
in all old religions the sacred and the forbideen were both taboo and veiled in mystery. Sacredness was a powerful thing and you can still see vestiges of it. Thus although Kaaba is sacred and ``holy``, only some initiated were allowed in and only at certain time intervals, and only to clean inside etc. (im talking of the inside of the Kaaba) So while pilgrims (Hajis) are ordered to circle around it on the outside, the inside was forbidden to all but a handful.
Consider it like the Jewish temple. PEople were enjoined to come make scrifices, but the inner sactum was only for the high priest. And only certain people were allowed to be in contact with the arck of covenant, etc.
But speaking of Hajj (and Umrah), its funny, but it is all resting on the pillar of the Hadjar, or the black stone. No stone, no pilgrimage. No pilgrimage, no Islam. Thus no stone, no Islam. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 5:38 pm Post subject: Muhammad's Black Slave Anjasha -- the Camel Driver |
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 Farside's Memory Verse of the Day - October 31, 2003
Today, let's celebrate Muhammad's BLACK SLAVE Anjasha  who was a camel driver.
Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah's Apostle was on a journey and he had a BLACK SLAVE called Anjasha, and he was driving the camels (very fast, and there were women riding on those camels). Allah's Apostle said, "Waihaka (May Allah be merciful to you), O Anjasha! Drive slowly (the camels) with the glass vessels (women)!" Source - Sahih Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 73, Number 182 source 1 . source 2 . source 3
For members of FFI for whom English  is a second language this would be a great verse to memorize and recite before going to bed. 
Let's dedicate the first day of Ramadan to Muhammad's BLACK SLAVE Anjasha.
From the Farside 
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Islam's powerful message of Love & Tolerance - 10
* according to Riyad-us-Saliheen, "a collection of hadith - compiled by Al-Imam Abu Zakariya Yahya bin Sharaf an-Nawawi ad-Dimashqi - concerning our day-to-day life, and is of high volume for every muslim. One of the traditional reference books used for centuries. The well known Imam an-Nawawi is by the majority of scholars considered one of the biggest scholars in the whole history of Islam."
{see: http://www.zahra.dk/Riyad-us-Saliheen.htm}
From:
Riyad-us-Saliheen:
The book of Miscellany - Chapter 49
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/hadeeth/riyad/00/chap049.htm
Compiled By Al-Imam Abu Zakariya Yahya bin Sharaf An-Nawawi Ad-Dimashqi
| Quote: | 390. `Abdullah bin `Umar (May Allah be pleased with them) reported: Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "I have been commanded (by Allah) to fight people until they testify that there is no true god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and perform Salat and pay Zakat. If they do so, they will have protection of their blood and property from me except when justified by Islam, and then account is left to Allah".
[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].
Commentary: This Hadith brings out the following .... points:
1. The objective of Jihad. This objective warrants that one must struggle against Kufr (disbelief) and Shirk (polytheism) and the worship of falsehood in all its forms. Jihad has to continue until this objective is achieved. This contention is supported by a Hadith, to the effect that Jihad will continue till the Day of Resurrection. In this Hadith the word (An-Nas) translated above as "people" stands for the polytheists and idolaters. The reason being that other Nasus (pl. of Nass, meaning `text') confirm the exemption of Ahl-ul-Kitab (people of the Scriptures) from it subject to the condition that they agree to pay Jizyah (dues imposed by Islam on the people of the Book living under the protection of an Islamic state) and submit to the Muslim rule.
The Arab pagans have only the choice to either embrace Islam or face war.
In the latter case, it is incumbent on the Muslims to wage Jihad against them to wipe out Kufr and Shirk and raise the banner of Tauhid everywhere.
This Hadith strongly refutes the people who distort the Islamic concept of Jihad and hold that Islam preaches defensive war only. It is an apologetic approach because defensive war has to be fought in any case by every nation and country. Thus, it is a compulsion and needs no justification. The real distinction of Islam lies in its enjoining Muslims to wage war for upholding the truth besides fighting for their own defense.
The domination of Kufr, Shirk and falsehood is darkness, heresy and tyranny, and the objective of Islam is to purge the world of all these evils. It aims at liberating man from the worship of man, set them on the path of worship of Allah, and to provide a just and equitable society to mankind.
Wherever in the world there is tyranny, ignorance and heresy, Muslims are bound to fight such evils and finish them by means of Jihad. |
Translation: offensive wars are justified (or even obligatory), with the purpose of 'liberating' mankind from un-islamic religions, views and thoughts (or: destroying un-islamic religions, views and thoughts among the non-muslims).
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Islam's powerful message of Love & Tolerance - 11
Muslim student associations on U.S. and U.K. University sponsored websites are admitting and propagating the agressive Islamic view that organizing jihad and using force against non-muslim countries that oppose islamic teachings is legitimate and even obligatory:
Website of The Muslim Students Association at the University of Southern California (MSA-USC):
The duties and responsibilities of the Khalifa
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/politics/khalifa.html#duties
| Quote: | The Khilafa is a fard kifaya {obligatory} on the ummah.
The duties and responsibilities of the Khalifa
The Khalifa of the Muslim ummah must strive to:
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5. Defend the rights of Muslims abroad, and to see to it that Islam can spread freely in non-Muslim lands (including the use of force).
6. Organize jihad against any non-Muslim government which prevents Muslim da'wah from entering its land. ... |
The same article is found on [url=http://www.google.com/search?q=%22+freely+in+non-Muslim+lands+(including+the+use+of+force).%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&filter=0]these sites[/url] (google search)
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* according to understanding-islam.com *
An Incident related to the Life of the Prophet (pbuh)
http://www.understanding-islam.com/related/text.asp?type=question&qid=1768
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"The Qur'an tells us that Muhammad (sws) was not only a Prophet (nabi) but also a messenger (Rasu'l) of Allah.
The Qur'an tells us that when Allah sends His messenger in a people, these people are not allowed to live on Allah's earth if they reject the messenger.
It tells us that these people are given time in which to make up their minds and to present all their objections against the messenger (Rasu'l). It tells us that when the Al-knowing Allah decides that these people have been given adequate time and that they are now absolutely clear of the truthfulness of the messenger and thus are not left with any excuse for their rejection but still are persistent in their rejection then Allah directs his prophet to migrate from the area and then he destroys all those who have rejected his messenger.
The Qur'an refers to the peoples (nations of the messengers of old - Noah, Hood, Lot, Shoaib, Saaleh and Moses (pbuh)- and narrates the result of their rejection. It declares to the direct addressees of Muhammad (sws) that if they don't accept the message of Allah's messenger (Muhammad) their fate shall be no different from those nations that have gone before them. (Surah al-Qamar the whole Surah especially verse no 43-45)
In short the Qur'an says it is the unalterable law of Allah that when he sends his messenger in a people, these particular people are left with no option but to accept his message or to face the punishment of death and sometimes complete annihilation. "
"The Qur'an goes further to tell us how this punishment was implemented on the polytheists from among the direct addressees of the Prophet (sws).
It tells us that although the previous nations of the messengers of Allah were annihilated because of their rejection through (apparently) natural calamities the companions of Muhammad (sws) because Allah has given them rule in a land (Medina) shall fight the rejecters and through these believers shall Allah implement his punishment (al_Tauba 9:14-16).
It directs them that the Mushrikeen should be killed without any exception. They should only be allowed to live if they accept Islam (al-Taubah 9:5). On the other hand, it also directs them that the Jews and the Christians (because they weren't polytheists I.e. Mushrikeen) even if they don't enter the folds of Islam, they may be allowed to live if they accept to live under the Muslim rule and agree to pay the Jizyah (Al-Taubah 9:29).
Thus the Prophet (sws) sent his messenger who declared at the time of Hajj that no one from among the rejecting polytheists shall be allowed to live after the prohibited months, if he does not accept Islam.
As a result of this declaration, most of the people who previously were polytheists, accepted Islam and thus the punishment of Allah was avoided." |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2003 10:34 am Post subject: Muhammad's slave tailor |
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 Farside’s Memory Verse of the Day – November 1, 2003
 Today, let’s recognize that Muhammad’s SLAVE tailor  played an important part in maintaining the clothes of the prophet.
Narrated Anas: Allah's Apostle went to his SLAVE tailor, and he was offered gourd of which he started eating.  I have loved to eat gourd since I saw Allah's Apostle eating it. Source -- Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 65, Number 344 source 1 . source 2
Muhammad’s SLAVE tailor should become an international symbol for the garment unions around the world. 
From the Farside  P. S. Don’t forget to commit the verse to memory.
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New Topic to Discuss: WE MUST HATE KAFERS!
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New Topic to Discuss: WE MUST HATE KAFERS!
I was listening to a tape by our great IMAM Shiekh Salman Alodah may allah save him from all evil and he said: ( If you go among Muslim people in the west or anywhere in the world the general opinion is that you should not have any hatred in your heart against kafers.....etc)
Then he quoted his opinion .... the opinion every single Muslim must believe!! Do you know what it is?!?
Must we hate kafers((non-Muslims)) heart wise or not?
I did not say go blow up their buidlings or hurt or harm them physically or terrorize them mentally or halt calling them to Islam... my question here is a simple and clear question about the belief of the heart towards ALL KAFER(non-Muslim)...
MUST WE HATE THEM? OR LOVE THEM? OR MAYBE JUST PUT IT ON NEUTRAL?
Please quote proof from the Koran, Sunnah and sayings of scholars for any opinion you have so that we may all benefit.
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(7/8/00 4:56 pm)
Re: New Topic to Discuss: WE MUST HATE KAFERS!
I do not think Islam promotes hatred of anyone.
We were ordered to love animals, and we all know the hadis about the women who was bad but entered heaven by giving water to a dog and another who entered hell for refusing to allow a cat to leave a room that had no water or food.
If that is how we must love animals then loving kafer should be the same if not a step higher.
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Abu abdullah
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(7/8/00 8:56 pm)
Re: New topic to discuss: We must hate kafers!
as salamu 'aliakum
alhamdulilah was slaatu was salaam 'alaa rasoolilah
This is one of the most important things for a person. In fact it is crucial that one has the right belief about this matter lest one becomes a disbeliever.
I will post the answer of Shaykh saleh al-Munajjid regarding this question so that it will be clear to those who are confused.
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so it becomes clear as to the position of a muslim towards the kuffar. There can be no love, friendship, alliance, etc. with them (kuffar)
was salam
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ALSALAFIYAT
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(7/8/00 10:20 pm)
Re: New topic to discuss: We must hate kafers!
A'salaam alakium warahmatallah
WE must not show no love or support or even respect to the kuffar. Allah said in the Qur'an:
"You see many of them turning in the friendship to the disbelievers, evil indeed are (theworks) which their souls have sent forward before them(with the result) that Allah's wrath is o them, and in torment will abide. If only they had believed in Allah, in the Messenger of Allah,and in what is revealedto him.Never would they have taken them for friends and protectors, but most of them are rebellious wrongdoers."---5:81-82--
Allah also said : "YOu will not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last day, loving those who oppose Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers,sons, brothers, or relatives."--58:22--
We must hate those who oppose Allah and His Messenger-sallaalaahu'alaihi wa salaam-
The Islamic Belief System obligates us to love the people of Tawheed and hate the people of Shirk.
Allah forbade the believer from supporting the Kuffar,even if the Kuffar are relatives. Allah said in the Qur'an:
"O you who beLieve! Do not take your fathers and your brothers as Awliyaa, if they love disbelief(Kufur) instead of Faith. If any of you do so, they are wrongdoers."---60:4
Lovin'&hatin' for the sake of Allah is one the major pillars of Eemaan.
Abdullah bin 'Abbbaas-radhiAllaahu'anhumaa- said: "Whoever loves for Allah's sake and hates for Allah's sake and withholds for Allah's sake,Allah isan ally to him.However, most people in this world befriend others for the worldy life which is nothing compared to the Hereafter."
We are not allowed to luv the kuffar because we are obligated to luv the Muslims and hate the kuffar. Allah says in the Qur'an: "The disbelievers are protectors, one of another and unless you do this (protect ech other), there will be tumult and oppression on earth, and great mischief." ---8:73
if Muslims do not hate the kuffar then fitnah will appear.This fitnah is that things will be mixed, and the belivers will be mmixed with the disbelievers.
I seek refuge w/Allah from His anger and His punishment and we ask Him forgiveness and good health. And may salutation, blessings, and security of Allah be on Muhammad-sallaalaahu'alaihi wa salaam, and his family and Companions.
fiaminallah
alsalafiyat
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Alsalaf
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(7/9/00 8:20 pm)
jazkm allahu khair
Aslamu Aliekm...
Jazakum allah khair all those who replied and benefited the rest of us....
Taebah, Abu Abdallah, Alsalafiyat and I love Islam....
I do not have nothing to add to what Taebah and Abu Abdallah and especially alsalafiyat....
But as Taebah and Abu Abdallah said.... this matter or matters of this like are not up to us,,, they are to be derived from the koran and sunnah... not only this matter but every single tiny bit of action or word or beleif in this life from the second we are born till we die must be derived from the koran and sunnah...
Everything we do is either Wajeb(fard)-ordained-, mandoob-preferred-, Makrooh-deterred from-, Mubah-permissable-, haram-prohibited-...
Every single action of our life must be one those based on the koran and sunnah... and somethings all those 5 conditions apply to ... depending on ur situation....
Not only must it be derived from the koran and sunnah but we must be approve of it totally... we cannot say oh I accept it becuase I must... your heart must accept it totally and willingly and you must be happy with it... as many verses stated...
As to this specific matter.... and as brother abu abdallah mentioned it is not only in the core of akeedah but this matter is the core of one becoming a basic Muslim...
This matter is the 2nd matter of la ilah ela allah...
After deriving the oneness of allah from la ilah ela allah...
You derive the concept of Wala and Bara... adhereance and renounciation...
That concept mean that you must HATE all kafer and love all Muslims....
You must give your Muslim brother your adherance and renounce all kafers....
You heart must contain nothing but HATE to all kafers...
Not just plain hate it must be the peak of hate... combined with recognizing a kafer is your enemy just for his kufer....
The verse of Abrahim alieh alsalam is the biggest proof in this... Abrahim told his father...(we disbeleive in you, and enemosity and hatred will remain between us untill you beleive in allah)
Verse #4 from Suret al mumtehina
1. they are enemies
2. they must be hated
There is tens of verses directly mentioning wala and bara.... and part of wala and bara is hatred of kafer and love of Muslims....
Even if the kafer never did anything personal to us... even of the kafer refused to support the killing of Muslims, even if he is a mere couch potate who reads the paper and sleeps and works,,,, he is kufer alone makes him an enemy to us and we must hate him for that.
Among the salaf are those who said to test your faith see how much you love Muslims and how much you hate kafers....
I do not want to repeat more proof because I think the hadith mentioned by alsalafiyat went over many of them... and they are clear as a sunlight....
If we look to the how the prophet sallah allahu alieh wa salam asked allah to change nearly everything we had in common with the jews in christians....
among them:
1. He used to stand and look sad and worry into the sky pleading to Allah to change the kiblah we pray to from the Aksa to Al kabah... why did he look sad and worry and beg allah?!?
Because he did not want it in common with Jews and
2. Be different thant Jews and Christians and Grow your bread and trim your mustaches
3. Be different than the jews and christians and pray in your shoes....
And there is many more like this!
All this "be different" is because we must hate them...
One point many people confuse is that hatred is an action of the heart...
Because we hate them dose not imply go oppress them...
When Umar Radia Allah anh seen a old jew begging in the streets,,, Umar asked him what are you doing? He said I'm begging to pay my share of the jizyah(taxes muslim imposed on kafers)
Umar the great leader of the Ummah took him by his hand to Beit El mal (similar to the welfare system) and orderd him a share and said (this is not justice we took his younghood from him and we let him astray as an elder)
Another one is when Umar radia allah anh the leader of the Muslims stood next to a jew before Judge Shureih over a shield used in battles... Umar said it was his and the jew said it was his so they both went before the Judge as though they are equal... then Shureih ordered the shield to be given to the Jew which caused him to later become a Muslim from the justice he seen.
The many stories of this like show we do not opress them just because we hate them ....
Our problem these days is we worry what the west and those who are after spoiling Islam say....
Now the general trend is agasint hate...
But we muslims cannot deny this... is there hate in Islam?!!
YES there is a true Muslim must hate kafers... maybe if we present it correctly they might be convinced... if not it is their choice... we do not compromise on these issues... if they think it is not suitable for them then hell will be their destiny ...
Same applies to a question that arises alot... when one wants to embrace Islam... is did Islam spread by the sword?!?
You see those who roam in circles trying to find a way out to say Islam was not spread by the sword... and they only end up embarassing themselves or try to find excuses for the Prophet sallah allah alieh wa salam and his companions...
The answer is clear yes Islam was spread by the sword...
There was never in the history of the world a situation where Muslims put swords to the necks of kafers and said give shadah or you die... not in that manner...
But Islam did spread by the sword among other manners it was spread by... through the companions who left medina to open the world... the hadith Muslim narrated where the prophet said(if you find your enemy from the kafers then call him onto Islam, if he refuses then offer him Jizyah(monetary tax or compensation to the Islamic state), if they refuse ask allahs help and fight them.
That is how a true Muslim state should be .... armies sent all over with the goal of la ilah illa allah to control the entire planet....
The point is ... the general trend and those after spoiling islam say we should not hate each other or they say Islam was never spread by the sword or we should celebrate other religions holidays...etc they do all that thinking they are making Islam look better to the west and more adoptable to our times...
But the true Muslims teaches Islam as it was tought 1400 years ago regardless of how many agree or disagree... regardless of wheather people like it or not ... we are not after numbers we got more than enough... we are after quality and not qantity...
There is more to say but I think I went on to long and if anyone has comments please present them.... |
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Farside
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 11:08 am Post subject: Muhammad, the Slaver |
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 Farside’s Memory Verse of the Day – November 4, 2003
 +  =  Muhammad, a cunning SLAVER, was able to trade two black slaves for a white slave.
Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah: There came a slave and pledged allegiance to Allah's Apostle on migration; he (the Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah's Apostle said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves , and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man). Source -- Sahih Muslim Book 010, Number 3901 source
 Not only was Muhammad the Apostle of Allah but he was also a brilliant slaver. Muhammad always had a supply of slaves ready for trade just in case a good deal came along. “Be prepared to trade” was his motto.
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adnan
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| Farside and CroMagnon are crushing Islam together and extracting all the juice! |
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