Faith Freedom International

[MONICA]

Brain is created thing, even your mind.
and this Religion is a way of life, so it must be profen in logical, rational and based on people understanding.


Balfus: Think rationally. Pretend there is no Koran, no bible. What type of human being would you aspire to?

because we only a created being, if you said that this religion can not be proven , WHY I HAVE TO BE EXISTED AND WHY I HAVE TO TAKE SOMETHING FOR A SALVATION? iam not a fanatic, iam a man who like something related to LOGIC, RATIONAL, MORAL, ETHICS like e.g mathematic, phisic, etc.And this religion is really- really point to this aspect, you have to use your brain or otherwise you gonna be lost.

Thinking logically, is God a Vengefull God or a Loving God? If your answer is loving, how can you reconcile God punishing/torturing someone eternally for the short time spent on earth? If you make it to heaven, would you love God more if you knew that he was punishing/torturing your Mom or Dad if they failed their earthly test?

If God is vengefull, why did he create me and give me freewill if everything I do is going to be judged and more than likely revenge will be exacted where I am made to suffer. Was life truly a gift?





man , i know christianity, but this religion is not the one that i want. i have learned christianity but eventually there are a lot of contradictions that i've found in christianity. God created everything in truth , so why He has to put mathematic without contradictions and christianity with a great deal of contradictions, is not made sense.

That is your opinion. However, the Koran is full of vengence, unfairness, and lack of compassion. How can Mohammad kill a woman's husband, relatives, and destroy her community and RAPE her the same night. Balfus, as a human being, could you do this???????? Is this just? Is this right? Could God condone this? Does this represent a loving or vengefull God?


please, read your bible properly, and put Jesus as a man, and beleive me you will recognise jesus as a pure man who praying and needs helps from God "The almighty".

I can see Jesus as just a man! A decent man, a loving man. One where when children gathered around him he was not looking for marriage prospects. He did not kill anyone in the name of God. I see a humble person who never was enriched by anyone else's misery.






please Monica iam not trying to insult your religion, iam not the man who like that kind of characters, iam trying to speak in knowledge , for me thats the way of salvation, not through the blood of Jesus(because it is really not made sense if you just depending your self to Jesus but this world is getting more worst than before and the crimes is increasing, what kind of sin that has been forgiven??? )


On the contrary, you have insulted my belief from the beginning. Which is okay with me. Because I am man enough to acknowledge that I have issues with the Christian scriptures myself. I can truly stand before God and explain my reasoning.


I have come to the conclusion that Allah and the God that I believe in are not the same. I have to believe that God is Love, even if it is not manifested around me. If he is no better than me, what is the point?
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WHY?

[everybee]

The Quran was not written by Muhammed. Its been altered many times.

http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-myths-koran-manuscripts.htm

http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter8/3.html

http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6243

http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Text/

http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/99jan/koran.htm

http://www.jodkowski.pl/re/MBright.html

[Unknown 271]

Norwegian
THE NORWEGIAN NOBEL COMMITTEE


Biography
SHIRIN EBADI

The Iranian lawyer and human rights activist Shirin Ebadi was born in 1947. She received a law degree from the University of Tehran. In the years 1975-79 she served as president of the city court of Tehran, one the first female judges in Iran. After the revolution in 1979 she was forced to resign. She now works as a lawyer and also teaches at the University of Tehran.

Both in her research and as an activist, she is known for promoting peaceful, democratic solutions to serious problems in society. She takes an active part in the public debate and is well-known and admired by the general public in her country for her defence in court of victims of the conservative faction's attack on freedom of speech and political freedom.

Ebadi represents Reformed Islam, and argues for a new interpretation of Islamic law which is in harmony with vital human rights such as democracy, equality before the law, religious freedom and freedom of speech. As for religious freedom, it should be noted that Ebadi also includes the rights of members of the bahai community, which has had problems in Iran ever since its foundation.
Ebadi is an activist for refugee rights, as well as those of women and children. She is the founder and leader of the Association for Support of Children's Rights in Iran. Ebadi has written a number of academic books and articles focused on human rights. Among her books translated into English are The Rights of the Child. A Study of Legal Aspects of Children's Rights in Iran (Tehran, 1994), published with support from UNICEF, and History and Documentation of Human Rights in Iran (New York, 2000).

As a lawyer, she has been involved in a number of controversial political cases. She was the attorney of the families of the writers and intellectuals who were victims of the serial murders in 1999-2000. She has worked actively - and successfully - to reveal the principals behind the attack on the students at Tehran University in 1999 where several students died. As a consequence, Ebadi has been imprisoned on numerous occasions.

With Islam as her starting point, Ebadi campaigns for peaceful solutions to social problems, and promotes new thinking on Islamic terms. She has displayed great personal courage as a lawyer defending individuals and groups who have fallen victim to a powerful political and legal system that is legitimized through an inhumane interpretation of Islam. Ebadi has shown her willingness and ability to cooperate with representatives of secular as well as religious views.

Oslo, 10 October 2003


another peace nobel Insya Allah will come soon.
This is the PROOF that actually a lot of people have misinterpreted the holy Qur'an and Hadith(Traditions) of Muhammad SAW.

this is the religion of peace.



Insya Allah you guys who have a bad perspective toward Islam, soon Islam will reach you and open your eyes to make you understand what Islam really is.

(QS 19: 59).But after them there followed a posterity who missed prayers and followed after lusts soon, then, will they face Destruction,-

'' (QS 5: 54). O ye who believe! if any from among you turn back from his Faith, soon will Allah produce a people whom He will love as they will love Him,- lowly with the believers, mighty against the rejecters, fighting in the way of Allah, and never afraid of the reproaches of such as find fault. That is the grace of Allah, which He will bestow on whom He pleaseth. And Allah encompasseth all, and He knoweth all things.

(QS 6: 6). See they not how many of those before them We did destroy?- generations We had established on the earth, in strength such as We have not given to you - for whom We poured out rain from the skies in abundance, and gave (fertile) streams flowing beneath their (feet): yet for their sins We destroyed them, and raised in their wake fresh generations (to succeed them).

Islam is the fastest growing religion and
the second largest religion in the world

Muslims in Asia (1996) 1,022,692,000 (30%)
Muslims in Africa (1996) 426,282,000 (59%)
Total Number of Muslims on the Earth (1996) 1,482,596,925
Total Number of People on the Earth (1996) 5,771,939,007
Percentage of Muslims (1996) 26%
Islam annual growth rate (1994-1995) from U.N. 6.40%
Christianity growth rate (1994-1995) from U.N. 1.46%
Total Number of Muslims on the Earth (1998) 1,678,442,000
Expected Number of Muslims on the Earth (2000) 1,902,095,000


This table below shows the growth of Islam:

North America (1989-1998) 25%
Africa 2.15%
Asia 12.57%
Europe 142.35%
Latin America -4.73%
Australia 257.01%


Among every four humans in the world, one of them is Muslim. Muslims have increased by over 235 percent in the last fifty years up to nearly 1.6 billion. By comparison, Christians have increased by only 47 percent, Hinduism, 117 percent, and Buddhism by 63 percent. Islam is the second largest religious group in France, Great Britain and USA (Muslims in USA are 10 millions and Jews are 6 millions).

USA '96
140.0 million Christians
010.0 million Muslims
004.3 million Jews


USA by denomination in millions (1996)
59.0 Roman Catholic
15.3 Southern Baptist
10.0 Muslims
08.7 United Methodist
08.2 National Baptist USA
05.5 Church of God in Christ
05.2 Evangelical Lutheran USA
04.4 Mormon
03.7 Presbyterian Church USA
03.5 African Methodist Episcopal Church
02.6 Lutheran Church of Missouri
02.4 Episcopal Church
02.2 Assemblies of God
02.0 United Synagogue of America (Conservative Jews)
01.5 American Baptist
01.5 Baptist Bible Fellowship International
01.5 Greek Orthodox
01.3 United American Hebrew Congregation (Reform Jews)
01.2 African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church
01.0 United Orthodox Jewish Congregation of America (Orthodox Jews)
01.0 Disciples of Christ



The Worlds Major Religions Changes
In the last half century...

Confucianism & Taoism decrease 13%
350,600,000
305,000,000

Judaism decrease 4%
15,630,000
15,000,000

Christianity increase 47%
682,400,000
1,000,000,000

Eastern Orthodox decrease 36%
144,000,000
092,000,000

Protestant increase 57%
206,900,000
324,000,000

Catholic increase 70%
331,500,000
565,000,000

Buddhism increase 63%
150,180,000
245,000,000

Hinduism increase 117%
230,150,000
500,000,000

Shintoism increase 152%
25,000,000
63,000,000

Islam increase 235%209,020,000
700,000,000

Growth rates taken between

World Almanac and Book of Facts, 1935
and
Readers Digest Almanac and Yearbook 1983
The number of the total population has been taken from The CIA World's Facts Book.



Alhamdulillah.

[Unknown 271]

Say: "O People of the Book!(Jews and Christians) come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but God. that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than God." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to God's Will).

WHETHER YOU ARE CHRISTIAN OR JEWS ETC LET US WORSHIP ONLY TO THE ONE GOD ALLAH.
IAM PERSONALLY VERY HAPPY THAT OUR WOMAN IS BESTOWED WITH PEACE NOBEL BUT HOWEVER THIS IS ONLY AN OPINION OF 1 PERSON ABOUT ISLAM AND I BELEIVE AS A HUMAN BEING MRS SHIRIN EBADI COULD DO A MISTAKE REGARDING TO ISLAM. THERE ARE STILL PRO AND CONTRA REGARDING TO THIS NOBEL PRICE.
AS A PERSON WHO LIKE TO THINK RATIONALLY, LET US STAND UP IN THE SAME PLATFORM AND DISCUSS WITH PEACE AND HARMONY.

I BELEIVE THE DEMOCRACY THAT WE HAVING NOW, HAS GONE OUT OF THE EDGE. LOOK ! ALCOHOL, PROSTITUTION, SURPLUS WOMEN, HOMOSEXUAL, LESBIAN, AIDS, WAR, ETC ETC ETC.

IT IS THE TIME THAT WE HAVE TO CHANGE IT TO A NEW SYSTEM, A SYSTEM THAT IS NOT BASED ON HUMAN DESIRE, BUT A SYSTEM THAT IS SENT DOWN BY GOD.

(QS 17:8 Say: "If the whole of mankind and Jinns were to gather together to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they backed up each other with help and support.

(QS 29:51)And is it not enough for them that we have sent down to thee the Book which is rehearsed to them? Verily, in it is Mercy and a Reminder to those who believe.

(QS 4:82)Do they not consider the Qur'an (with care)? Had it been from other Than Allah, they would surely have found therein Much discrepancy.

SELF EVIDENT PROOF.
Alquran - message from High - as "The Miracle." THE MIRACLE OF MIRACLES! and men of wisdom, people with literary and spiritual insight, who were honest enough to themselves, recognised and accepted AL-Qur'an as a genuine miracle.

says the Holy Qur'an:
(QS 29:49)Nay, here are Signs self-evident in the hearts of those endowed with knowledge: and none but the unjust reject Our Signs.

alcohol and games of chance
(2:219). They ask thee concerning wine and gambling. Say: "In them is great sin, and some profit, for men; but the sin is greater than the profit." They ask thee how much they are to spend; Say: "What is beyond your needs." Thus doth Allah Make clear to you His Signs: In order that ye may consider-



(QS 59: 21-24)21.Had We sent down this Qur'an on a mountain, verily, thou wouldst have seen it humble itself and cleave asunder for fear of Allah. Such are the similitudes which We propound to men, that they may reflect.

22. Allah is He, than Whom there is no other god;- Who knows (all things) both secret and open; He, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

23. Allah is He, than Whom there is no other god;- the Sovereign, the Holy One, the Source of Peace (and Perfection), the Guardian of Faith, the Preserver of Safety, the Exalted in Might, the Irresistible, the Supreme: Glory to Allah. (High is He) above the partners they attribute to Him.

24. He is Allah, the Creator, the Evolver, the Bestower of Forms (or Colours). To Him belong the Most Beautiful Names: whatever is in the heavens and on earth, doth declare His Praises and Glory: and He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.


and for the christians or even the jews , this is the meaning of alle lu ya.

The last syllable “YA” is a vocative and an exclamatory particle in both Arabic and Hebrew meaning “OH!” in other words YA= OH, (the vocative); and YA = (!), a note of exclamation, or an exclamatory particle, or as is more commonly known an exclamation mark.
The Semite, both Arab and Jew, begins with the exclamatory particle or exclamation mark. The westerner, in his language ends with the exclamatory particle or exclamation mark, eg. Stop! Go! Fire! Bang!
Let us repeat the above (words of praise) as an Arab or a Jew: ALLE-LU-YA will be YA-ALLE-LU because, as explained above , YA is always at the beginning in both Arabic and Hebrew.
YA ALLE LU WOULD BE YA ALLA HU: MEANING, “OH ALLAH!”(You are the Only Being Who deserves worship and praise), “OH ALLAH!”(You are the Only Being Who deserves worship and praise)
Unbiased Christians will not fail to recognise Allah as none other than his-- El, Eli, Alle, Alah, Allah. Call upon Him by any name, for His are the Most Beautiful names, as long as those names are not contaminated and as long as they do not conjure up in out minds the images of men or monkeys howsoever glorified they might have been.

[Unknown 271]

Holy Qur'an 17:88 without

Say: "If the whole of mankind and Jinns were to gather together to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they backed up each other with help and support.