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scaredguy
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 Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:07 pm Post subject: Islam Was My Nightmare, by Jutta |
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Islam Was My Nightmare
By Jutta 2005/04/26
One more woman who was misled by the agents of islam and has her eyes opened.
Thankfully you are back from this islamic nightmare and have the courage and the possibilty of telling your story.
How many are listening? Young women really are easily misguided and misused by the agents and quislings of islam. |
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Omen123
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Nota Bene : Thank you.
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agentazure
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Edited upon request.
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Ali Sina
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| Against their own family? Yikes! |
Are you kidding? Muslims kill even their own children.
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agentazure
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| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Against their own family? Yikes! |
Are you kidding? Muslims kill even their own children. |
I don't know what came over me that I was surprised over this.
Well, maybe it was because she is a more distant relative (wife of a step-brother in the West) and I would have expected them to be more careful about that sort of thing.
But still. What was I thinking?
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Mahanama
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:22 am Post subject: |
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| I personally believe the author of this story had many chances to know real Islam before getting marriage, and she just ignored them. It seems to be human nature that sometimes people close their eyes when they face the truth. |
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scaredguy
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Islam and muslims have a lot of romantic stuff in their talk, but in real life these muslim men are misogynic monsters because of islam.
Many european women have fallen for muslim men's "romantic" talk, deceit and early behaviour. Some are sick of the pornography emanating from the capitalist way of life and want to see in islam the "better" alternative.
Capitalism is bad because of its pornography, greed and environmental destruction - but islam has all that and much worse.
Young men and women need to be told that, but we cannot because if we do we will be accused of fomenting "racial or religious hatred" and "intolerance". |
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Immanuel
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Terrible story, thank God without a terrible ending. Hope this will contribute to spread the truth about Islam, for sure I will translate this and add to the italian section.
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armour_piercing_bullets
Joined: 08 May 2004
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:30 am Post subject: |
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MOST IMPORTANT THING IN LIFE IS BALANCE :
it is very worrying that people dont blame themself also,
they blame a system : capitalism etc...
if u blame islam its ok,bcoz it is compulsive and dictatorial.
but freedom and democracy ensure that u can be a capitalist
or run away and live in some mountain.
the main problem is our own mind.what we perceive
we start thinking is the truth etc....
u dont need to be attached to capitalism,even if u live in it.
u need to train the mind...by meditation etc...to
be true human being.
meditation,yoga,dhyana,zen etc...many forms exist.
it is not imperitive to buy that new gizmo,or
compulsory to do this or that or surrender to
materialism or nihilism or religion etc...bcoz
the neibor did it or someone told u to do so.
by doing meditation etc...we can focus our energy
and thoughts to more btter things in life like real
human relations,love,happiness etc...
happiness does not come from material possessions or thinking god/allah will give me salvation/houries in jannat.
happiness is a state of mind,that needs to be cultivated.
yes some people r genetically more inclined to be depressed or
happy,but by breathing exercise,yoga,meditation,we can
find happines,without the trappings of RELIGION OR MATERIALISM.
these r age old remedies,and nothing to do with india,or china or japan etc...although i am indian.
these r the gift of our ancient seers to us ie to all humanity not just 1 nation or 1 culture.
so,best is we need to do real soul searching and leave
religion and materialsm behind and we will observe
that happiness contentment etc..r mental state of
human brain.
just like hate,anguish,ignorance,etc....
if we practice the meditation etc
we can cultivate happiness peace,
contentment etc...and lead more
richer lifes.
we r lucky not to be born in dicatorial islam culture,
so,we can experience the full depth of humanity.
we just need to strike a right balance,and life will be
better.
apb |
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scaredguy
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:05 am Post subject: |
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| Please keep your contributions compact and readably small. We are all hard-pressed with time. Learn to be concise and cogent. |
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Bolding Hansen
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:46 am Post subject: |
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| scaredguy wrote: |
Islam and muslims have a lot of romantic stuff in their talk, but in real life these muslim men are misogynic monsters because of islam.
Many european women have fallen for muslim men's "romantic" talk, deceit and early behaviour. Some are sick of the pornography emanating from the capitalist way of life and want to see in islam the "better" alternative.
Capitalism is bad because of its pornography, greed and environmental destruction - but islam has all that and much worse.
Young men and women need to be told that, but we cannot because if we do we will be accused of fomenting "racial or religious hatred" and "intolerance". |
The whole point of the west is your democratic freedom, you can choose your life, you can choose if you don´t want to care about your looks or you will care, and how much you will care.
Noone is forcing any girl to become porn model, I always wonder why they agree to pose with those wet sex kitten looks, and stereotypical way of posing, much more than display their beauty like eg. seminude pictures of models like Helena Christensen or Casta etc.
If you don´t wanna be materialistic, you can form your life accordingly, after all not being materialistic also means you don´t have to earn 70000 $ + each year.
If you wanna be a heretic you can be heretic and noone is gonna pull you to the stake, I used to colour my hair in strange colours and look like a freak, some individuals displayed their dislike of that, but still noone would put you in jail.
Noone is forcing you to watch soap operas in TV, noone are forcing you to adhere to anything but laws that are pretty objective and for the benefit of all.
You can find a husband, if he is old enough  , pretty easily who likes you the way you are even though you do not look like a supermodel, as long as you are a good person.
And you can meet and mingle, and enjoy anykind of relationship with people that are interested in about anything between heaven and earth, you name it, it is here.
Democracy, plurality, flexibility, intelligent innovation, spirituality, family, friends, career, you name it, it is here, only difference is you make the choice, not some outward authority, some rigid system of rules, in the end people fail to see the forest because of the trees here.
And that is a such a shame that some even go as far as to hate our our own culture, feeling miserable and guilty, etc. We got so much to be proud of, but of course we could improve, we always can. |
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scaredguy
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To hansen
The western society gives freedom, lots of it - but unfortunately many are not equipped to deal with it. You are a man of high intellectual achievements and you may be able to manage the freedom - but many cannot. This is where totalitarian ideologies (like islam) make their entry. And many freedoms are actually sham freedoms.
We have to preserve the real freedoms but we have to also take care of those who cannot manage these freedoms (real or sham) and misuse them or are misused by others.
That islam is evil and dangerous is easy for all to see - and yet many have not seen it, or tend to dismiss what they have seen. |
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nomad
Joined: 01 Apr 2004
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| scaredguy wrote: |
To hansen
The western society gives freedom, lots of it - but unfortunately many are not equipped to deal with it. You are a man of high intellectual achievements and you may be able to manage the freedom - but many cannot. This is where totalitarian ideologies (like islam) make their entry. And many freedoms are actually sham freedoms.
We have to preserve the real freedoms but we have to also take care of those who cannot manage these freedoms (real or sham) and misuse them or are misused by others.
That islam is evil and dangerous is easy for all to see - and yet many have not seen it, or tend to dismiss what they have seen. |
Thinly veiled words for communism.
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scaredguy
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To nomad
Why do you use the word communist as an expletive?
To say: take care of those who are weaker, those who cannot manage many of the freedoms, that some freedoms are just sham - is that worth only an abusive retort?
Differentiating between 1)communism and 2)stalinism/maoism is beyond your intellectual and cultural ability? |
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doubtless
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| scaredguy wrote: |
To nomad
Why do you use the word communist as an expletive?
To say: take care of those who are weaker, those who cannot manage many of the freedoms, that some freedoms are just sham - is that worth only an abusive retort?
Differentiating between 1)communism and 2)stalinism/maoism is beyond your intellectual and cultural ability? |
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| We have to preserve the real freedoms but we have to also take care of those who cannot manage these freedoms (real or sham) and misuse them or are misused by others. |
Who is this we? Who cannot manage these freedom? Which freedoms? And misuse them or are misused by others?
Can you not see that you have are robbing "individuals" and individual choice in favor of a "we"? What happens to those who do not want to join that "we"? Which part of that "we" will decide for the others?
"We" become free when "I" is free and freedom requires that "I" be allowed to misuse my freedoms and pay the consequences for misusing them. I want to be free to be stupid enough to buy into these sham freedoms. I do not want to be told by the "we" what is sham for me and what is not. I do not want to be taken care of by this "we" of yours even when I am stupid and do not know how to manage my sham freedom. I would rather rely upon my friends and neighbors and relatives and individuals and priests and churches and temples to help me when I am in need. I do not trust this "we" that is so eager to condemn so many "I"s to be incapable of managing my freedoms.
Nomad was being concise and cogent as you asked for in another post. And he was exactly to the point and I agree with him. Communist became an expletive because of what communists have done since 1916.
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