Looney lefties weep over the fate of Turkish cousins

Hedda Gabler · Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 148

Two Turkish cousins in DK was sentenced to 8 and 10 yrs. in prison for stabbing a young Italian tourist to death in 2003. After that deportation. None of them are Danish citizens ( if they were they would have to do military service, which is why most Turks don't apply for that)
They have a whole bunch of family and relatives in Turkey and have been on holiday numerous times.

This is how the looney left in DK reacts:
I have translated the article in the same style it is originally written in which gives you a good idea about what "we" are up against. It certainly is a very interesting view into how the minds of the looney lefties work.

(By Christina Rosendahl, film director)

"Dear Hizir and Ferhat,
You guys did a dirty trick. You stabbed a young Italian man, someone almost like yourselves. He was a living human being. Now he is dead. You have to go to jail and you guys have deserved that, of course.
But I want to apologize to the both of you on behalf of Denmark. Sorry about the arrogant and narrow-minded vindictiveness that you meet in the Danish streets. Sorry about all those Danes who think it is all right to send you guys out of the country although you have been given a gigantic prison sentence.
Although you have lived here all your life and even are born here, went to school, made friends and have been petty criminals and even smoked pot (as they claim on the radio), there seems to be different rules for you than for other criminals.
It is more ok to kill your girlfriend and her kids than a young guy on a backpacking trip. Peter Lundin went to prison all right. He will get out again. That is the Law. You guys have to do time and then you will be expelled to a place you do not know and where there are no family and friends, no relations, no future – you won’t stand a chance. Society seeks vindictiveness by sending you to prison. But you will be extra punished on top of that.
Sorry about our great system, which claims that, it helps the weak ones. In this country people would rather stay indoors and watch shows on TV on how to decorate your house, win a million or other series and movies; such are the Danes. They love all that stuff more than life itself. Their Homes. They don’t care about what happens outside in the streets. Sorry about all those Danes who gladly are being interviewed on TV or on the radio who want to ‘honor’ us all with their home-spun philosophy: »We really cannot accept people killing each other in the streets « og »it is their own fault, we want them out of the country «.
Thank god I’m not the only one who feel sick about the Danish rhetorics of fear. You guys are going to prison and you have deserved that. How I had hoped that the Danish community would take responsibility and give you lots of help: Psychiatric help, psychological help, help at school, more financial help and helping you guys knowing how to kill time in stead of killing people; help getting an education, getting work and a family eventually. And more hope for the future as well as self-esteem.
Sorry about those Danes who live in a different century. I hope the best for you. Even though you did do a dirty trick!"

My comments:
Peter Lundin is an American born completely pshycopatic Dane who killed his mother, served some of the time and then wanted to serve the rest in DK as he knew how "soft" we are compared to US prisons. After some diplomatic and political arguing Peter Lundin was sent to Dk where he was...released. 2 months later he had killed his lover and her 2 small boys. He is now serving time under one of the strictest sentences here: unlimited/unknown sentence, meaning that he may never get out. But then again if the looney left had their way he would be realeashed immidiately, poor thing, imagine how awful it must be for him in prison.

thunderbalt · Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 2975

It is exactly like feeling sorry for a hungry lion.
You give him a piece of meat to eat.
You end by being eaten by the lion!

diotima64 · Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 16559 Location: middleearth

actually, if these men were born and raised in our society, we should accept some part of the responsibility for how they turn out, no? I mean, we have to live with the criminals we produced, don´t we?
Of course, we should ensure our schools teach them (and all other pupils, of course) proper behaviour. But criminality as such will never just "go away".

Hedda Gabler · Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 148

diotima64, these guys never showed any interest what so ever in wanting to integrate into the country that took care of them; quite the contrary: they started their criminal careers at the age of 10-11 ( no parental support or guidance, the Danish society raised them as their parents never cared) joined gangs ( a growing problem) bullied small kids, robbed shops and eventually killed a young tourist.
I think the verdict is a very strong signal that may prevent future killings of that kind.
Besides, the don't even speak proper Danish, never took on a job but have been on welfare for yrs. They reason why they don't want to move back to Turkey is, that they can't get welfare there but have to work.

Hedda Gabler · Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 148

English links to the case can be found here:

http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/03/udi-mullah-krekar-will-be-expelled.html

Hedda Gabler · Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 148

http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/03/young-muslim-immigrant-killers.html

diotima64 · Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 16559 Location: middleearth

Hedda Gabler · Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 148

In an ideal world, no. But the world is no way near perfect, I'm afraid.

my_faith · Joined: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 44

Susan · Joined: 09 Mar 2004 Posts: 1534

munira · Joined: 05 Mar 2005 Posts: 894

They are lucky they are not in the usa. IN the usa they woudl be in prison for life! They should be tahnkful it is "only" 8-10 years!

Hedda Gabler · Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 148

In DK a 'gigantic sentence' is 10 yrs. you get MAX. 12 yrs. for murder no matter the circumstances - life sentence in Dk always means 12 yrs. and if you behave well you may even get away with 9-10 yrs. Whilst doing time you are entitled to free education and may attend classes. Prisons here er open meaning that you don't have to put up with one walk outside daily for ½ hr. you are free to walk the grounds at any time in the day. Cells are locked at nighttime though.
Anyway, if you are a mentall ill criminal you will get a sentence meaning unlimited/unknown time in a mental prisonhospital.
Childmolestors and violent rapists often get those sentences. And Peter Lundin got that too. the longest prison sentence ever served here in Dk was 33 yrs. The man shopt 2 cops in 1965 and was out a few yrs. ago. All his appeals for release had been turned down until then.