Looking for a debate.........

Exposingtheliesofsina · Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Posts: 35

I want to debate the regulars on this site about Islam. The only request I have is that people respect Islam and know that there is a difference between insulting and Critiquing.

Exposingtheliesofsina · Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Posts: 35

Ill start with pedophilla

I dont understand how Mohammad can be called a Pedophille.

He didnt "desire" Aisha

Abu Bakr offerred her hand in marriage and by all accounts they lived a happy life with no one objecting to it. The goal of this marriage was to have a female representative of Islam because Islam is a COMPLETE way of life. It wasnt so that he could have sex with a child.

And this is the even stranger part

If he did desire children why did he stop at 1?

Why were all of his other wives old?

Also

The hadith states that the marriage occurred at the age of 6 and consumated at the age of 9. Why did he wait 3 years? I mean if he wanted sexula relations with a child why didnt he consumate the marriage when she was 6?

The only logical solution is that he DIDNT want to have sex with a child.

Exposingtheliesofsina · Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Posts: 35

Caravan Raider

THE PROPHET MOHAMMAD DID NOT RAID CARAVANS!!!

These early expeditions were "scare tactics" as described by Maududi.

ALL scholars agree that there was absolutely no Looting or Raiding

The goal of these expeditions were to

A) Familiarize the Meccans with war like conditions

B) To send a message to the Meccans to make them negotiate and to stop their persecution of the Muslims who were left behind

The REAL looters were the Meccans who robbed the Mulims after they left.

doubtless · Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 6442

Why are so concerned about insults? If you show to the world that Islam is good for mankind then those who insult it will appear as idiots and fools.

If you beleive that Islam is really and truly the command of Allah, then why be concerned about insults? Is Allah that concerned about who insults him?

People here claim that islam is not from God, and Islam is evil. Muhammad was an evil person and the muslims are stuck in this evil cult. Is that an insult?
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Exposingtheliesofsina · Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Posts: 35

Mohammad's goal

Why did the Mohammad try to be a Prophet?

Money? Power? Mental Illness?

If he wanted any of the above then I challenge anyone to just prove the following points wrong

1) THE MECCANS OFFERED HIM MONEY, POWER, RESPECT, AND WOMEN IF HE CHANGED HIS VIEWS. He turned them down and endured horrible suffering instead. He and his clan were boycotted and had to live in a barren waste land for years. Why did he do this?

2) BY ALL SOURCES the Prophet lived a simple life and urged others to do so. If he wanted money and power why did he not live a lavish life?

Here's a link

http://cwis.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/prophet/prophetdescription.html

Please just disprove 1 option

Exposingtheliesofsina · Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Posts: 35

Thank you for the reply

No my friend that is not an insult that is a critique

Saying "Mohammad and all Muslims will rot in hell" is an insult

Im sure Allah doesnt care who insults him

I care

Huston · Joined: 05 Dec 2004 Posts: 4790 Location: Toronto

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Exposingtheliesofsina · Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Posts: 35

Again answer why not at the age of 6??

That is my question

The only logical solution is that Ayesha after 3 years was physically able for consumation.

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Lorenzo · Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 400 Location: Europe

Huston · Joined: 05 Dec 2004 Posts: 4790 Location: Toronto

Exposingtheliesofsina · Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Posts: 35

That was an example

I think you know what I meant

Im sure all religions teach that their followers will attain salvation while others face a murky fate.

And I think you're wrong about that

Scholars believe that no ones sins are wasted

Mohammad's uncle never accepted Islam but he helped his nephew in every way shape and form.

I highly doubt his sins will go to waste

Not accepting Islam is considered a sin in Islam

But a good deed is a good deed

Exposingtheliesofsina · Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Posts: 35

Before I respond I want you to answer something

Im sure you're aware of the Michael Jackson case right?

Why is he under trial?

Becaue the parents and the children didnt appreciate his sexual advances.

Now, Please produce JUST 1 document or quote which says that ANYONE objected towards his marriage or his consumation???

Abu Bakr was honored

And Ayesha Loved him with all of her heart

Would she do that if she felt he had molested her?

Exposingtheliesofsina · Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Posts: 35

Any modern day scientist will tell you it is harmfull to have sex with a nine year old girl.

TODAYS WOMEN......

What do we know about the women who lived 1400 yrs ago?

Surely evolution played a hand?