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Another Communist Revolution in Latin America

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Sorge

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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 2:50 pm Post subject: Another Communist Revolution in Latin America

The Commies haven't taken over in Bolivia yet, but it's only a matter of time: Bolivian President Quits During New Protest Wave

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LA PAZ, Bolivia (Reuters) - Bolivian President Carlos Mesa said on Sunday he is resigning after 17 months in office as a new wave of protests spread throughout the Andean nation of 8 million.

Mesa announced his decision on radio and television on Sunday night and said he will tender his resignation to Congress on Monday.

It was not immediately clear who would take over from Mesa, perhaps as an interim leader, or if elections would be called before the presidential term ends in 2007.

Mesa, a political independent, was vice-president when he took over in October 2003 after President Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada fled the country during a bloody popular revolt that left about 80 people dead.

This will make Bolivia the fourth Latin American country controlled by Communists: Cuba, Venezuela, Brazil and Bolivia.
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agentazure

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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 2:54 pm Post subject:

I'm afraid the world may not be able to avoid another dark ages if this keeps up. _________________ "You can't do this to me, I'm an American!" -- Marion Ravenwood, Raiders of the Lost Ark

Phedippedes

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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:21 pm Post subject:

Sheesh. Not all lefties are commies or stalinists. Neither are all righwing policitians nazis or fascists.

Sir Galahad

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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:30 pm Post subject:

Phedippedes wrote:

Sheesh. Not all lefties are commies or stalinists. Neither are all righwing policitians nazis or fascists.

Dear Phedippedes,

I hear you.

Unfortnately a lot of Rightwing people on this forum think that Liberal/Liberalist is just another way to spell Communist. Who cares that Lenin, Stalin and other Commnist leaders persecuted Liberals, Moderate Socialists and Socialist Libertarians. If you are more Leftwing than the (Neo)Conservatives you must be in league with deranged Leftwing Totalitarian nutcases , no matter how much you love democracy and personal freedom.
Right?
Right?
Wrong!

Kind regards,
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agentazure

Joined: 13 Feb 2004
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:05 pm Post subject:

Sir Galahad wrote:

Unfortnately a lot of Rightwing people on this forum think that Liberal/Liberalist is just another way to spell Communist. Who cares that Lenin, Stalin and other Commnist leaders persecuted Liberals, Moderate Socialists and Socialist Libertarians. If you are more Leftwing than the (Neo)Conservatives you must be in league with deranged Leftwing Totalitarian nutcases , no matter how much you love democracy and personal freedom.
Right?
Right?
Wrong!

Kind regards,

Either you don' t know much about the situation in South America or you have a very good understanding of Communism.

Communism. REAL HONEST TO GOD COMMUNISM, has been working for decades and has been successfully increasing its grip on all countries in South America. Here's a short article about the current situation in Venesuela:

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If any doubts remained about President Hugo Chávez's plans for Venezuela's destiny, they have been erased by his decree to "rescue" unproductive lands and assign them to "groups of the population" and "organized communities" from rural areas. Private property is history, so Chávez is proceeding to strengthen the failed agrarian reforms of socialist Venezuelan governments from the 1960s, '70s and '80s, renaming them the "agrarian revolution."

The new Land Law authorizes the government to expropriate land that bureaucrats consider underutilized and to do the same in those cases in which the government discovers an error in a title of land. Venezuelans already know the modus operandi of Chávez's bureaucracy. In trying to obtain a birth certificate, an identification card, a passport, a certified copy of any legal document and even in registering the elderly to receive pensions, each "mistake" represents a potential source of income for each official, and at the same time, a delay of several months for each citizen's request.

Does that sound like freedom and democracy to you?

What you're seeing in Venesuela is what is going on in Bolivia and about to happen to other countries. In order for Communism to sustain itself and in order to carry out its utopiate dreams it must eventually take over the world.

Frankly, I find Euros to be amazingly fuzzy-headed when it comes to both Fascism and Communism which is a fascinating aspect of European psychology, given the Communistic and Fascist undercurrents that run throughout Europe and your historical experiences with both ideologies.
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Sorge

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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:31 pm Post subject:

Phedippedes wrote:

Sheesh. Not all lefties are commies or stalinists. Neither are all righwing policitians nazis or fascists.

I see how this is going to be. Fine. I mentioned four countries; Cuba, Venezuela, Brazil and Bolivia. Let's look at the leaders of those "Revolutions":

Cuba; Fidel Castro: ...Nah, I'm not going to provide a link to Castro's Communist credentials. If anyone argues otherwise, he's arguing in bad faith, so, here's a link to anti-castro jokes instead:

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A drunk man is at one of Havana's main street corners shouting: "Castro, sonofabitch!," "Castro, murderer!," "Castro, because of you I'm dying of hunger!," "Castro, you are a curse to the Cuban people!" A policewoman arrives to the scene and beats the hell out of him. The drunk guy retorts: "Why are you beating me? There are many people in Cuba named Castro!" The policewoman responds: "Yes, but with those characteristics there is only one!"

Venezuela; Hugo Chavez: Defying U.S., Venezuela's Chavez embraces socialism

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CARACAS, Venezuela (Reuters) -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez on Friday embraced socialism as his ideology of choice in a political statement that sharpened his antagonism against the United States.

Chavez, a firebrand nationalist who has governed the world's No. 5 oil exporter for six years, has persistently declined to define the precise ideology of his self-styled "revolution."

But, addressing an international meeting on poverty in Caracas, he said Western-style capitalism was incapable of solving global economic and social problems.

"So, if not capitalism, then what? I have no doubt, it's socialism," said Chavez, who also rebuffed U.S. criticism of his left-wing rule in Venezuela and denounced U.S. President George W. Bush as the "great destabilizer of the world."

Brazil; Lula da Silva: Brazil's New Prez Promises To Build Nuclear Weapons

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Brazil's newly elected president, Luis Inacio Lula da Silva, has promised to expand the military in Latin America's largest country and turn Brazil into a nuclear power.

Mr. da Silva, a left-wing populist who campaigned on promises to improve conditions for the country's vast population of poor, promised military leaders he will forego Brazil's adherence to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and refocus efforts on building up nuclear weapons.

"Why is it that someone asks me to put down my weapons and only keep a slingshot while he keeps a cannon pointed at me?" said Mr. da Silva, addressing a group of high-ranking military officers in Rio de Janeiro earlier this month.

"Brazil will only be respected in the world when it turns into an economic, technological and military power."

In addition to nuclear weapons, Mr. da Silva, who takes over the Brazilian presidency on Jan. 1, has pledged support for a plan that would see Embraer, a Brazilian aircraft manufacturer, begin producing a new jet fighter and missile technology capable of competing with the U.S. F-16.

Bolivia; Evo Morales: Profile: Evo Morales

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Among the opposition leaders that will be keeping a close eye on the new president of Bolivia is Aymara Indian Evo Morales.

Mr Morales, who leads the Movement Towards Socialism (MAS), has played a central role in the violent demonstrations that have brought Bolivia to a standstill, and led to the resignation of its president.

He is a controversial figure whose power base is in the coca-growing areas of central Bolivia.

Ties with the coca-growers earned him the label of "narco-trade unionist" by the ousted President Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada and, in the past, open condemnation from the United States.

But his surprising second place in last year's presidential elections and the widespread support during the recent "gas riots" shows the radical congressman continues to be a key figure in Bolivian politics.

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