Faith Freedom International :: View topic

FAQ

Memberlist

Usergroups

Profile

Attention: Year 2009 is here Wishing a very Happy New Year to all members of FFI. Our new and improved site is ready. To visit main site, click at faithfreedom.org and to visit our new forum, click at forum09.faithfreedom.org and register again. Do not worry about your old forum posts and PM, everything is saved here till 31st December, 2008 for future references.

On the verge
Goto page Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 Next

This forum is locked: you cannot post, reply to, or edit topics.

This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.

Faith Freedom International Forum Index -> Testimonies of Those Leaving Islam

View previous topic :: View next topic

Author

Message

liberate_ur_mind

Joined: 03 Dec 2004
Posts: 205

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 6:26 pm Post subject:

yolk wrote:

FOOD (especially bastilla- yum! )

ahh I haven't had that in ages! My favourite remains Couscous though

_________________
Fear is a weapon of mass destruction.

Mahmud

Joined: 26 Dec 2004
Posts: 22

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 12:21 pm Post subject:

yolk wrote:

Quote:

FOOD (especially bastilla- yum! )

I can stop being a Muslim, I can stop being a Moroccan but I will never stop loving Moroccan food!

BTW Morocco is a rather strange Muslim country. We have many traditions that are completely unislamic. We like to dance a lot, we like to sing (so-called tongue song), we like magic, we like to have killer parties etc. And of course food... ahhhhhh...food...

yolk

Joined: 23 Jul 2004
Posts: 766

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 1:30 pm Post subject:

How bout tagine marrakech?

Mahmud

Joined: 26 Dec 2004
Posts: 22

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 1:32 pm Post subject:

yolk wrote:

How bout tagine marrakech?

I think I'm hungry

Phedippedes

Joined: 20 Mar 2004
Posts: 8092
Location: Not on FFI anymore

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 2:57 pm Post subject:

I'll go for couscous with those big raisins, carrots and lots of mergues sausages...with some olives and good turkish bread as a side dish.

yolk

Joined: 23 Jul 2004
Posts: 766

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 3:12 pm Post subject:

Aaaaaah, merguez. Yummay!

mohdatif_2000

Joined: 22 Nov 2004
Posts: 58

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 6:59 pm Post subject:

Dear Mahmud , It is truly very sad that you have decided to leave Islam , a very big loss indeed , Mahmud do think it over again . To my Allah I will pray to give you guidance.

doubtless

Joined: 17 Feb 2004
Posts: 6442

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 7:21 pm Post subject:

mohdatif_2000 wrote:

Dear Mahmud ,

It is truly very sad that you have decided to leave Islam , a very big loss indeed , Mahmud do think it over again .
To my Allah I will pray to give you guidance.

The question really is Mohd. Atif, why are you sticking with Islam? You appear to have more brains than the average muslim. Why don't you start using them? Think a little.
_________________
Ali Sina: "The truth is out there for those who want to see it. It is beyond doubt."

Rg Veda: "He who surveys it in the highest heaven; He surely knows - or maybe He does not!"

fadeaway humper

Joined: 08 May 2004
Posts: 113
Location: a point or extent in space

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 7:39 pm Post subject:

Cyberite wrote:

When I travel alone, which is rather often, the muslims always freak out when I eat Moroccan by myself. The men congregate in a little corner of the restaurant staring and gossiping.

Does that happen in Paris? If so, creepy.
_________________
The penis, mightier than the sword.

yolk

Joined: 23 Jul 2004
Posts: 766

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 7:59 pm Post subject:

Quote:

Does that happen in Paris? If so, creepy.

The braver ones will give you a freakish "Bon appetit" and a leer when they pass by. Beurk.

mohdatif_2000

Joined: 22 Nov 2004
Posts: 58

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 2:18 am Post subject:

Quote:

The question really is Mohd. Atif, why are you sticking with Islam? You appear to have more brains than the average muslim. Why don't you start using them? Think a little.

You see Doubtless I can be the best of human beings and also be a very good Muslim , I can love my wife , treat her with equity and kindness , look after all her needs , respect and take care of my parents , always tell the truth no matter what , keep my promises , give charity to the needy etc.

The fact is that if I do all of the above things I would actually be following Islam and be a much better muslim.

And no I donnot have more brains than the average muslim , I think you underestimate muslims.

doubtless

Joined: 17 Feb 2004
Posts: 6442

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 2:37 am Post subject:

mohdatif_2000 wrote:

Quote:

The question really is Mohd. Atif, why are you sticking with Islam? You appear to have more brains than the average muslim. Why don't you start using them? Think a little.

Aw go on you are being modest. Hopefully you would know that kaffirs do all that too for their wives, parents and families. Kaafirs are nice and decent people too. They really should not be killed by the muslims as they have been over the years, or treated as second class humans as they are all over the muslim world even today.

But I have to disagree, as long as you follow Mohammad and the Quraan there is always the danger that you will slip into extremism and start following the instructions of that cult. As long as you do not take all the smite this and smite that too seriously.
_________________
Ali Sina: "The truth is out there for those who want to see it. It is beyond doubt."

Rg Veda: "He who surveys it in the highest heaven; He surely knows - or maybe He does not!"

mohdatif_2000

Joined: 22 Nov 2004
Posts: 58

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:47 am Post subject:

Quote:

But I have to disagree, as long as you follow Mohammad and the Quraan there is always the danger that you will slip into extremism

First of all I would say that I donnot believe that there is anything such as extremism , either you follow Islam or you donnot , I donnot believe in a "moderate muslim" and an "extremist muslim" .

Quote:

and start following the instructions of that cult. As long as you do not take all the smite this and smite that too seriously.

As I said earlier , it is Islam which instructs us to develop these qualities , what you guys are trying to do is to quote selected verses out of context so that it might appear to people who donnot have knowledge that Islam is a terrible religion .
And as I have said earlier , it is not Islam you harm .
I hope you realize this before it's too late

doubtless

Joined: 17 Feb 2004
Posts: 6442

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 4:22 am Post subject:

mohdatif_2000 wrote:

Quote:

But I have to disagree, as long as you follow Mohammad and the Quraan there is always the danger that you will slip into extremism

First of all I would say that I donnot believe that there is anything such as extremism , either you follow Islam or you donnot , I donnot believe in a "moderate muslim" and an "extremist muslim" .

Quote:

and start following the instructions of that cult. As long as you do not take all the smite this and smite that too seriously.

Even ex-muslims have a hard time knowing who is a muslim and who is not. All the beheaders on TV that we have been seeing call themselves muslims and they always yell Allahu Akbar while killing. The wana operation that is going on in Pakistan right now is resulting in deaths and from what I reas either side is calling the other side not true muslims. Most pakistanis call ahmediyyas not muslims but ahmediyyas outside pakistan call themselves muslims. Submitters call themselves true muslims and say the shia/sunnis are not true muslims. So you may call who ever you like a muslim or not. I am calling those muslims extremists who are threatening to nuke population centers if and when they get their hands on nuclear materials.

Again it is not just a few verses being quoted and they are not quoted out of context (but that is one of the excuses that muslims give), it is the accumulative effect of what is taking place around the world now, the 1450 years of islamic history, the words of the muslims in the past and in the present that is what is driving the impression of Islam.

Here take a look in a European Newspaper:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1387077,00.html
Here take a look at what is being done by those who call themselves muslims:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Default.htm#Attacks
Here take a look what the young muslis of canada are hosting at their site about what is Jihad and notice these are the words of the Sharia expert (Imam Shaheed Al Banna):
http://www.youngmuslims.ca/online_library/books/jihad/

And I really do not know what you mean by:

Quote:

And as I have said earlier , it is not Islam you harm .
I hope you realize this before it's too late

I do not know what earlier statement you are referring to. I am trying to tell the truth as I see it. I do not know what you mean by "before it's too late". Too late for what?
_________________
Ali Sina: "The truth is out there for those who want to see it. It is beyond doubt."

Rg Veda: "He who surveys it in the highest heaven; He surely knows - or maybe He does not!"

Last edited by doubtless on Thu Dec 30, 2004 4:29 am; edited 1 time in total

doubtless

Joined: 17 Feb 2004
Posts: 6442

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 4:53 am Post subject:

mohdatif_2000 wrote:

As I said earlier , it is Islam which instructs us to develop these qualities

I think everyone understands that it instructs you to develop these qualities towards your wife, parents, and family.

What does it instruct you to develop for the kaffirs is what the rest of the world is really grappling with.
_________________
Ali Sina: "The truth is out there for those who want to see it. It is beyond doubt."

Rg Veda: "He who surveys it in the highest heaven; He surely knows - or maybe He does not!"

Last edited by doubtless on Thu Dec 30, 2004 4:53 am; edited 1 time in total

Display posts from previous:

	Faith Freedom International Forum Index -> Testimonies of Those Leaving Islam	All times are GMT Goto page Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 Next
Page 3 of 5

Jump to:

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum