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TheYoungReservist
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| This airborne cr*ap without the Army on the ground is rubbish... |
Not quite,the civilian death toll so far has been very low compared to the amount of targets hit and the fact that half of Gaza are under age 17.
If you plan your strikes carefully it pays off and there's been extensive intel gathering.
There's no need to rush to insert ground troops,facing a 20,000 guerrilla army of Hamasniks who have probably filled the entire strip with IEDs and other surprises and who over the last few years that Israel graciously allowed them,have amassed tons of weapons and dug underground tunnels which stretch over 50 kilometers will be very difficult.
It's not Lebanon by any means but it will still come with a heavy price,the next step should probably be starting to use the artillery on the ground.
I agree that to completely stop the rocket fire there will be no other choice except to go with boots on the ground but there's no need to rush into it,the IAF still hasn't exhausted all of its targets bank.
Also like our Muslim friends here would like to point out we remember well the mistakes we made two years ago.
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ghostbusting
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I agree that to completely stop the rocket fire there will be no other choice except to go with boots on the ground but there's no need to rush into it,the IAF still hasn't exhausted all of its targets bank.
Also like our Muslim friends here would like to point out we remember well the mistakes we made two years ago. |
Well, it does not look good. Just read on the BBC
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| A statement by Hamas has warned any invasion would see "the children of Gaza collecting the body parts of Israeli soldiers and the ruins of tanks". |
I think Hamas is also waiting for the 13,000 boots (6,500) to enter. Looks like there will be a new lesson for Israel.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7805558.stm
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TheYoungReservist
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| Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, it does not look good. Just read on the BBC |
Sorry man,even aljazeera english is better than the BBC.
Might as well watch Al Manar..
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| I think Hamas is also waiting for the 13,000 boots (6,500) to enter. Looks like there will be a new lesson for Israel. |
Of course they are,then they will run and hide in their holes and civilian homes and Israel will have to dig them out.
I think Israel has learned all it needed,we will see.
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ygalg
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| Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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The InHizbullah is already there next door.
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theatrical rhetoric, does not answers; why victorious hizbollah does not fulfilled it's promised.  |
I don't think that was their game. They showed everyone that they could single-handedly beat Israeli forces and they did that. Thus IDF's weakness has been exposed.
Bombing a city is easy but in man to man combat, I would say, Israelis are still weak.
I believe Israel has been tamed. |
that does not answers why nasrallah broke his word to hamas. |
I don't know about that. The show has just begun. Have any larger tin cans started arriving from the North? |
5 days passed ... no signs.
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Gaul&Carthage
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| Also like our Muslim friends here would like to point out we remember well the mistakes we made two years ago. |
Your's is a quandary I would not want to be in. How does it feel to be surrounded by hatred from all sides?
My people have felt it in history...but I have not felt it directly.
Still...now you are in a much more powerful position than those around you. You must wield it well.
The dynamic must change. Someone has to uplift the other.
There is no other way out.
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TheYoungReservist
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| Your's is a quandary I would not want to be in. How does it feel to be surrounded by hatred from all sides? |
Nothing we haven't had for the last few thousand years 
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Still...now you are in a much more powerful position than those around you. You must wield it well. |
I hope so...
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TheYoungReservist
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| Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:19 am Post subject: IDF bombs 'terror mosque' |
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| Gloves are off: Air Force razes Gaza Strip mosque used by Palestinian rocket cells targeting Israeli communities; several people reportedly hurt in strike. Army officials say rockets, explosives stored inside mosque |
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3648349,00.html
I disagree,gloves are far from off..
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Gaul&Carthage
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| Nothing we haven't had for the last few thousand years |
Yes.
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Balls_of_Titanium_1
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| The blood of these Palestinians must not go in vein. |
why vain? they are going to Jehanna where 72 black eyed virgins awaits them. you should be happy for them. you should also thanks hamas for initiated this eternal vacation package. this the best jizya they received. |
Yes of course, they are martyrs, and they gave their life for a good cause. However, their life was cut short by the criminal Israelis. In Islam, murder is punishable by death. So Israelis are responsiblem and they must be made to pay, sooner or later. |
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Guardian
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| Nothing we haven't had for the last few thousand years |
Yes.
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Very much so, but modern weapons can ruin cities in only few hours.
Thanks to sciense - or mainly human bloodthirst - wars are more brutal than ever.
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Gaul&Carthage
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| wars are more brutal than ever. |
What consolation does a mother have when her house is blown by something that dropped out of the sky....killing all of her children?
Can you imagine the suffering that is ensuing? I don't think we can.
Who is to blame? Why did this happen?
Trace it...trace it....find the reason....
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Guardian
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| wars are more brutal than ever. |
What consolation does a mother have when her house is blown by something that dropped out of the sky....killing all of her children?
Can you imagine the suffering that is ensuing? I don't think we can.
Who is to blame? Why did this happen?
Trace it...trace it....find the reason....
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Yep, that´s how it goes. Time after time...
But was the mother innocent?
Were her children innicent?
What was their side in the conflict?
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Gaul&Carthage
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| Yes of course, they are martyrs, and they gave their life for a good cause. However, their life was cut short by the criminal Israelis. In Islam, murder is punishable by death. |
Then why aren't all muslims dead? All they do is murder...in every sense of the word. I bet you wouldn't think even once let alone twice if I put a jew in front of you and a gun in your hand.
I hate what is happening now....I hate it....do you think even your enemy takes pleasure at the death of innocents? No.
But they want not to kill innocents...they want to kill the hatred.
And tragedy occurs.
What brings matters to such a recourse?
Ask yourself this question.
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| So Israelis are responsiblem and they must be made to pay, sooner or later. |
You are responsible. Islam and muslims like you are responsible...when will you wake up? When are you going to start taking responsibility and acknowledge the root cause?
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Ram
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Congress, Left slam Israeli air strikes
NEW DELHI: The Congress and the Left parties have strongly condemned the Israeli military strikes on Gaza Strip that left many civilians dead. They said such attacks were “unacceptable to the civilised world.”
Terming the Israeli action “most unfortunate and a matter of grave concern,” a Congress statement said: “The disproportionate use of brute force by Israel, resulting in colossal loss of civilian lives, including women and children, has caused deep shock and anguish throughout the world. This action, therefore, deserves strongest condemnation.”
Reiterating its solidarity with the Palestinian cause, the Congress called upon both sides to exercise restraint and abide by their agreed international obligations for an early negotiated resolution of all disputes.
The party also called upon the U.N. and all countries to intervene for an immediate ceasefire and resumption of dialogue.
http://www.hindu.com/2008/12/29/stories/2008122959231300.htm
This Congress government is a bloody disaster for India ! |
Congratulations to the Indian Government for having the balls to come out speak the truth about this cowardly and murderous attack by a State upon innocent cilivlians. |
Congratulations to the Indian Government?
It was not the Government of India but the Congress Party and Left wing parties which condemned Israel. The Congress Party is condemning Isreal only because they want to appease Muslims to gain their votes. The irony is that Muslims hate Hindus, including the Hindu members of the Congress Party and Left parties just the same. |
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