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Houris (virgins) for men, Gilmans (boys) for women?
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thunderbalt



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 9:06 am    Post subject: Houris (virgins) for men, Gilmans (boys) for women? Reply with quote

Houris (virgins) for men, Gilmans (boys) for women:

This thread is mainly an idea from the first posting of a new comer to the forum (baybar).

The next is modified from the web:

The X-RATED PARADISE OF ISLAM:

In this article is described the Islamic Paradise or Jannat which was invented by Prophet Mohammed to bribe the Arabs into committing hideous crimes by promising them materialistic things which they couldn't obtain in the harsh desert. The paradise contains six important items: beautiful virgins, young boys, water, wine, fruits and wealth.

To prove the point quotations have taken from the Koran and from the Haddiths.

VIRGINS (HOURIS):

Mohammed knew that sex would sell very well among the group of his lecherous followers who were motivated to fight battles by the promise of sex slaves and booty. By constantly emphasizing to his followers that they would get untouched virgins in Paradise, Mohammed is clearly expressing his "high" opinion of the institution of marriage and his fairness to women. Once the followers go to heaven, they can conveniently ditch their wives for the fresher and more pleasurable sexual encounters with 'Houris' (beautiful virgins). Not only that, the poor wives who gave up their virginity for the pleasure of their husbands do not get even one Male Sex Bomb. But wait, Allah is all merciful! He gives the wives the rare honour of watching their husbands deflower those 72 Houris (virgins) and 28 young pre-pubescent boys.

OR: are the Houris for men and the Boys for women?

The relevant verses from the Koran are:

Koran 78:31
As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards, and high- bosomed virgins for companions: a truly overflowing cup.

Koran 37:40-48
...They will sit with bashful, dark-eyed virgins, as chaste as the sheltered eggs of ostriches.

Koran 44:51-55
...Yes and We shall wed them to dark-eyed houris. (beautiful virgins)

Koran 52:17-20
...They shall recline on couches ranged in rows. To dark-eyed houris (virgins) we shall wed them...

Koran 55:56-57
In them will be bashful virgins neither man nor Jinn will have touched before.Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?"

Koran 55:57-58
Virgins as fair as corals and rubies. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?"

Koran 56:7-40
...We created the houris (the beautiful women) and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand.. "

Koran 55:70-77
"In each there shall be virgins chaste and fair... Dark eyed virgins sheltered in their tents whom neither man nor Jin will have touched before..

Haddith:

In the Haddiths, Mohammed goes one step further and expands the promise of virgins to include a free sex market where there is no limit of the number of sexual partners. Women and young boys are on display as if in a fruit market where you can choose the desired ripeness.

Quote from Hadiths

Al Hadis, Vol. 4, p. 172, No. 34
Ali reported that the Apostle of Allah said, "There is in Paradise a market wherein there will be no buying or selling, but will consist of men and women. When a man desires a beauty, he will have intercourse with them."

YOUNG BOYS (GILMANS)

Homosexuality was and is widely practised in Islamic countries. To please the homosexuals among his followers he promised them pre-pubescent boys in Paradise. So after committing plunder, loot, rape and murder in this life, the followers of Islam get "rewarded" by untouched virginal youths who are fresh like pearls.
OR: are these boys for the pleasures of women as reward and to be equal to men in what rewards they have in Paradise?

The relevant verses from the Koran are:

Koran 52:24
Round about them will serve, to them, boys (handsome) as pearls well-guarded.

Koran 56:17
Round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness.

Koran 76:19
And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.

This way the Muslim Paradise will show that there is equality between men and women in the afterlife.


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Ms Vivian



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. The suicide bombers will get 72 grapes or white raisins instead of 72 virgins.

The delicacy of raisins equal to delicacy of virgin (if you know what I mean).
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to muslims, the gilmans are not for women. The men get all the sexual pleasure because pious muslim women simply don't have sexual desires!

This makes it clear that allah doesn't only favour muslim men over women on earth, but also will give them more rewards in heaven too. Realising that allah/mo is a sexist pig was a big reason for my leaving Islam. Mo thinks it is heaven for a muslim woman to watch her husband deflower 72 plus virgins. Muslimahs would really be better off going to hell instead.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Koran 55:56-57
In them will be bashful virgins neither man nor Jinn will have touched before.Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?"


Allah telling us that jinns like virgins too??


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salam,

First question. Where does it say that women will not participate?

Secondly. You really dont prove much with this. Just because you say that Muhammad(pbuh) invented this will not cut it.

Prove it.

Thank you.
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piscohot



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Farid wrote:
Salam,

First question. Where does it say that women will not participate?

Secondly. You really dont prove much with this. Just because you say that Muhammad(pbuh) invented this will not cut it.

Prove it.

Thank you.


You mean the quran said that women get to have their 'pearly' boys in heaven too?
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Chewchy



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WTH am I going to do with a little boy - you guys are SICK!
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Ms Vivian



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chewchy wrote:
WTH am I going to do with a little boy - you guys are SICK!


Plenty actually. You can instruct them to cut your husband's penis when he is deflowering those 72 virgins.
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Haik Monsieur



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Farid wrote:
Salam,

First question. Where does it say that women will not participate?

Secondly. You really dont prove much with this. Just because you say that Muhammad(pbuh) invented this will not cut it.

Prove it.

Thank you.


Sahih Bukhari. Book #2, Hadith #28

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The Prophet said: "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women who were ungrateful." It was asked, "Do they disbelieve in Allah?" (or are they ungrateful to Allah?) He replied, "They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favors and the good (charitable deeds) done to them. If you have always been good (benevolent) to one of them and then she sees something in you (not of her liking), she will say, 'I have never received any good from you." [End of hadith]

While majority of women are dumped in hell, how can they have an active participation in heavenly activities..?

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Marley



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it seems the muslimah does not have to do much wrong to be sent to Hell. All the while their husbands are busy in Heaven drinking from rivers of wine and enjoying their 72 untouched virgins.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ms Vivian wrote:
Chewchy wrote:
WTH am I going to do with a little boy - you guys are SICK!


Plenty actually. You can instruct them to cut your husband's penis when he is deflowering those 72 virgins.


YIKES!!!!

Down! Ms. Vivian.
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sun



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Koran 55:57-58
Virgins as fair as corals and rubies. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?"


Allah reward with fair virgin but why on earth he did not chose a fair prophet ? MoHAMmad must be a mistake.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will the virgins in heaven all looked alilke?
If they do, why would you want 72 of them?

If they looked different from each other,
what happens if you go there and then find
that you do not like your virgins but prefer
your neighbours? Would Allah allow you to
swap virgins with your neighbours?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole thing is just utterly stupid and that people born with a brain in their head believe this tripe just goes to show how indoctrination of children and mental dificients works.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

surly virgins are for men ,but don't think boys are for women as women are just objects for the pleasure of men
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