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Islamis_Allah_Tashit
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Infact it is the Muslims who do all these things just to prove Quran right, |
hello, dear friend universal,
Judging one side's perspective from being in another side is always pretty much easy and the most easiest thing is to have some wild speculation in order to vindicate a side or community.
The Noble Quran is right and always right from every perspective. Muslims actually need not to prove anything simply because the Glorious Quran is itself an illuminating light and any faithful will not face that much of problem to understand that. Still, problem arises when some people devoid of proper understanding and poor insight into Islam's true teaching lead themselves in a position from where they cant think of coming back. For them we use explanation from different perspective to prove whats right and whats wrong.
Just remember, doesnt matter what approach you take to defend the Holy Bible, you wont be successful but we can be in case of the Holy Quran. |
Lincoln, what are you talking about? The Quran says meteors chase things or are fired at things. That's an error. The Quran says that the sky is decorated with stars and was originally joined with the earth and then separated from it and raised above it. Can't you see the e4rrors here? Are you absolutely hypnotized??
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Prophet will be in the position of veneration always. The most simpler thing that you fail to understand is that you dont understand Islam! |
I understand that it is very creepy for someone to be able to be sexually aroused by a little nine year old girl. Remember Lincoln, Muhammad is a male, and in order to be able to consummate the marriage, he had to be able to become erect, and he can't become erect unless he found little Ayesha to be sexually attractive
Let me ask you an honest and sincere question and I hope you will give me an honest and sincere answer. Do you find little nine year old girls to be sexually attractive?
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Islamis_Allah_Tashit
Joined: 12 May 2004
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@Hamad
As salaam alaikum,
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| drno, good job. I advise you to observe only as these guys are here to argue only not to learn. That's why this website is dead |
Yes, I could make out that this website is not for debate just some junk and idiotic beliefs of Ali Sina and his gang, for eg: cassandra asked me about proof of Aisha[RAA ]puberty at the age of 9 yrs, When I ask her to prove her case,she did not replied back, instead some guy "sum" answers twisting the questions and
blaming, and on other hand they want logical and rational answers and they themselves cannot prove some basic things.
Good Luck. |
drno, please give me an honest answer. Do you find little nine year old girls to be sexually arousing?
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Islamis_Allah_Tashit
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NO. It means you do not worth my time.
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Bad answer, You should have taken a good excuse not to debate
with me..anyhow i'm least concerned about you... |
Can you be sexually aroused by a little nine year old girl?
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Agreed...but I will raise this question to you directly later on..after
your member admits defeat, then let me see how much worth you are.. |
What defeat? You lost. In fact, the only choice you have is to admit that you also find little nine year old girls to be sexually arousing and therefore there's nothing wrong with Muhammad's behavior. Otherwise, if you do not find them to be sexually arousing, then you would have to admit that Muhammad had a psychological sexual disorder. So which one do you choose?
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sum
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| Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Hello drno
Your last posts to Cassandra were just silly. Now you are hiding behind your silly questions to avoid significant matters. In essence, you are running away.
Hamad Al-Hasan is also running away. You both know that you are facing difficult questions and so you both choose to run away rather than attempting to answer the questions. Your failure to answer the questions says everything. It is an answer in itself.
Please answer my questions or will you continue to run?
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drno
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| Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:48 am Post subject: |
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Mr Islamis_Allah_Tashit
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| What defeat? You lost. In fact, the only choice you have is to admit that you also find little nine year old girls to be sexually arousing and therefore there's nothing wrong with Muhammad's behavior. Otherwise, if you do not find them to be sexually arousing, then you would have to admit that Muhammad had a psychological sexual disorder. So which one do you choose? |
Why are you people hell bent upon the age, the prescribed age for marriages is fixed very few years back by the governments of respective countries...If you want logical answers you people also need
think rationally before commenting anything, Yes you are lost and defeated because you people want answers and if we ask you to prove then you have thousands of excuses... |
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Cassandra
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Pedophilia is revolting, no matter the era. An oooooold man shouldn't get sexually aroused by a little girl, much less have sex with her. Children deserve our protection, not exploitation for sex.
Have you seen nine-year-old girls? Do you get sexually aroused looking at them? Do you think they are ready for sex? |
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drno
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| Your last posts to Cassandra were just silly. Now you are hiding behind your silly questions to avoid significant matters. In essence, you are running away. |
How could you say it is silly, uh,, This questions was perfectly correct and reasonable because it is linked to prophet Muhammed's [P.B.U.H] marriage, so how could you change the subject esaily mr.sum. Cassandra says Aisha [RAA} was a child, so I ask few questions related to it how come it is hiding, It clearly say You FFI forummers are hiding and do not want to accept defeat.
You people have wrongly accused prophet Muhammed [P.B.U.H] of child marriage and many other accusations, I promise, if you people answer my questions then I will comment on your post and also will accept defeat..Will you agree for this |
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drno
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Good to see your comment after long time...
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| Have you seen nine-year-old girls? Do you get sexually aroused looking at them? Do you think they are ready for sex? |
Forget about Sex we were talking about marriage.Are you losing your memory, don't change topic / dodge my question I want a simple proof, and you have not answered me, Accept defeat or be ready for further proofs, Are you ready to accept.
Do not try to hide under silly question asked by Mr Islamis_Allah_Tashit ,
I have fitting replies to Mr Islamis_Allah_Tashit and sum and whoever it is, first let us close the debate which was started about child marriage..I will also prove you whether 9 yr girl is ready oor not... |
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Cassandra
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| Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 9:04 am Post subject: |
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Good to see your comment after long time...
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| Have you seen nine-year-old girls? Do you get sexually aroused looking at them? Do you think they are ready for sex? |
Forget about Sex we were talking about marriage.Are you losing your memory, don't change topic / dodge my question I want a simple proof, and you have not answered me, Accept defeat or be ready for further proofs, Are you ready to accept.
Do not try to hide under silly question asked by Mr Islamis_Allah_Tashit ,
I have fitting replies to Mr Islamis_Allah_Tashit and sum and whoever it is, first let us close the debate which was started about child marriage..I will also prove you whether 9 yr girl is ready oor not... |
What was your question? |
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drno
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You could have referred to our earlier post anyway here they are:
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Where is the proof that you have attained puberty at 13, How could i believe you!
do you have a valid proof.Or do i need to just believe you
Who are those who have proved? how can anybody prove what was puberty age at that time ( about 1400 years ago..), Do not made up things,Prove it clearly |
Prove these. |
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Cassandra
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| Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 9:25 am Post subject: |
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You could have referred to our earlier post anyway here they are:
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Where is the proof that you have attained puberty at 13, How could i believe you!
do you have a valid proof.Or do i need to just believe you
Who are those who have proved? how can anybody prove what was puberty age at that time ( about 1400 years ago..), Do not made up things,Prove it clearly |
Prove these. |
You are being stupid. I TOLD you that I attained puberty at 13.
Aisha TOLD us that she didn't reach puberty even when she was 14. |
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sum
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| Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 9:32 am Post subject: |
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Hello drno
Your quote -
Who are those who have proved? how can anybody prove what was puberty age at that time ( about 1400 years ago..), Do not made up things,Prove it clearly
This means that you can not prove that Aisha had reached puberty. By your argument puberty has to be taken out of the discussion. According to your Islamic history we are left with Muhammad at the age 53yrs having sex with a 9yr old girl.
Do you think that this was acceptable then and do you think that it should be an example to follow today for fully mature adult men who wish to marry and have sex with 9yr old girls?
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drno
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@Cassandra
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| You are being stupid. I TOLD you that I attained puberty at 13. |
I didnt argue with you...I just asked for proof.
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| Aisha TOLD us that she didn't reach puberty even when she was 14. |
Ohhhhhhhhh...Aisha told you Which Aisha u r referring to!! |
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drno
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| This means that you can not prove that Aisha had reached puberty. By your argument puberty has to be taken out of the discussion. According to your Islamic history we are left with Muhammad at the age 53yrs having sex with a 9yr old girl. |
If you can prove when your grand mother reach puberty, I can prove
about a vitous lady who lived more 1400 years ago..
Why u r hell bent upon sex dude....U can't even prove whether prophet Muhammed had sex with Aisha[RAA] when she was 9 years...
Lets talk about marriage before jumping to sex...understood
You idiots know nothing but sex....
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| Do you think that this was acceptable then and do you think that it should be an example to follow today for fully mature adult men who wish to marry and have sex with 9yr old girls? |
If i get a girl who is mature enough and has reached age of puberty then definitely Yes i will marry...read carefully" mature" ,but I doubt If our government in the country in which I live will let me do so...Understood |
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Winston
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| Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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Why u r hell bent upon sex dude....U can't even prove whether prophet Muhammed had sex with Aisha[RAA] when she was 9 years...
Lets talk about marriage before jumping to sex...understood |
What about this:
Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
There are quite a few Hadith which re-affirm this but this one will suffice.
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| You idiots know nothing but sex.... |
Says someone who follows a man who had a dozen wives + extra sex slaves, permitted his men to rape captives, allowed 'temporary' marriages and promised followers who died fighting that they would enter a paradise full of eternal virgins. Wow.
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