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TheYoungReservist
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 Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:20 pm Post subject: ummah.com freak out over MSA-USC Quran Database |
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i find a muslim datasearch bank that has been labeled as muslim for YEARS to all of a sudden be a cooperation of jews and muslims a corruption
where in the sunnah is there this desire to make nice nice with jews?
they were expelled.............not because our Prophet hated them, but because of their evil
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i think that i have been on that site for years
what reason do jews have any say so, or labeling rights to it, other than for their own purposes of corrupting muslims?
or are we blind to everything around us?
we see the attacks of shaytan little by little, and we convince ourselves its no big deal
is it the end of the world? of course not
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So..wait,they have all been using that website for years and didn't notice any difference and now all of a sudden it's "corrupted" because of the evil Jewish connection they have "discovered"?
Clowns 
Also to anyone doubting the hatred of Jews in Islam once again you can see it here in their own words,same goes for the apologists.
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Sally
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There is a similar thread on the Mpac forum, but Mpac's membership are ordinary, normal human being muslims rather than salafi hard liners, so the OP's anti-Jew paranoia got short shrift.
Ummah are a bunch of weirdos. The Mpac thread is here...
http://forum.mpacuk.org/showthread.php?t=39218
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TheYoungReservist
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Sally wrote:
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| There is a similar thread on the Mpac forum, but Mpac's membership are ordinary, normal human being muslims rather than salafi hard liners, so the OP's anti-Jew paranoia got short shrift. |
Yes,I've noticed since I visit MPAC as well.
I do have to say that in contrast to their website(which is full of articles bordering on the absurd 90% of the time) their forum does contain members who are normal human beings.
Although there are more than enough nasty characters there also,like "reborn jihadi" for example.
I think their best feature is that they allow the relatively normal existence of members who criticize their views which makes their forum even more interesting to read.
On ummah those posters wouldn't last a day.
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Sally
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Although there are more than enough nasty characters there also,like "reborn jihadi" for example.
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Absolutely, but try visiting a non-muslim forum, and look at their views about Israel. For example, the Richard Dawkins forum, what would you say to characters like "Cormac", and "Robert", who are far more insidious than RBJ?
Eg...
http://richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=47863
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TheYoungReservist
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| Absolutely, but try visiting a non-muslim forum, and look at their views about Israel. For example, the Richard Dawkins forum |
Israel hatred is not limited to Muslims only,for the Muslims they find the source and inspiration of their hatred in their religion.
The leftist crowd can find it elsewhere,like the BBC.
It would be also safe enough to assume that many left oriented people would hold atheistic/agnostic views.
I may be an exception to this case.
What I might tell them would be not to go to the BBC but go to the Israeli sources,to talk to the Israeli people directly and to come along for a visit to witness things on a personal level.
Now that would be real research because it is very easy to sit at home,see things through the BBC lens and pass around comments,but that doesn't mean you know even 1% of what's going on.
Although the entire issue here is not the Islamic hatred of "Israel" but their hatred of the Jewish people as a whole,Israel is just the main symbol which represents it.
RBJ and others like him do not limit themselves to Israel,they find excuses and dodge the hard questions about the Taliban,Iraqi internal violence and other world topics.
The funniest character over there is Iraniboy who is truly convinced that his country the way it is now is the most perfect place on earth and it can never do any wrong,not to its people and not to others.
The MPACUK website though provides me with good entertainment,I just go there to see what world misfortune they will blame on the "evil zionists" today or which devious plan is being designed by some other "zionists&islamophobes" against the poor innocent muslims.
Some of these articles are downright hate filled rants,it is amazing that they allow these pieces to remain on the page.
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