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Alkaliel
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 Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:57 pm Post subject: Fatima's story |
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diotima64
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| How sickening! And I always thought, that USSR at least would stop something like that happening! Why didn´t the doctor call authorities in this blatant case of child abuse? Ah, well, I just hope, things will turn out alright for your friend. |
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Alkaliel
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Ali Sina
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Oh dear! This story was so painful. It brought tears to my eyes. Not that I am stranger to tears but this story pierced my heart.
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yeezevee
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I have No Words to write, No Gods to Complain., dear Alkaliel, please convey to Fatima, my regards and best wishes to Bente, Indeed, if there is a God, it is in her..
with best wishes
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Bam
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| It was a part of Soviet Union which is famous for its attempts to stifle all religions. But in Uzbekistan we practised Islam absolutely freely. |
How come the communists were able to muzzle Christianity but not Islam? I thought this sort of thing only happens in third world Muslim countries like here in Nigeria's Muslim north.
Everyone who reads this story should send it to at least 10 other people.
Islam must be completely demystified and its cruel misogynism exposed. |
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diotima64
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| the communists never completely muzzled christianity...but I think, politically speaking, Islam is the more dangerous adversary than orthodoxy. After all, the orthodox churches were used to obey the tsars and the muslim peoples in the USSR were not russian, but conquered in the 18th/19th century...nationalism could easily identify with islam |
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yeezevee
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| diotima64: nationalism could easily identify with islam. |
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| "Indeed, Islam Is Arabian Nationalism, Only Fools Consider It Other Wise" |
The fact people from far away bend their faces towards Arabian desert and backs to their own Country and Own Culture Speaks volumes at It .. The Islam, Mohammad's Master Plan..
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Mairjke
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 10:25 pm Post subject: Re: Fatima's story |
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| Alkaliel wrote: |
Fatima was reluctant to write a testimony because she thought no one would understand her. I said that people on this forum are compassionate and they would surely understand. (I don’t mean Muslim4lyfe). Nowadays she needs support more than ever. When she’s down I always tell her that in fact she is really lucky because she’s safe at the moment. Also only few people can find savers like her Norwegian mother!  |
Why would no one understand her? Only people without a heart wouldn't be touched to the core by her story (imho). And to think there are millions of women like her in the muslim world... Please tell Fatima that I'm glad she's escaped her miserable life and that I'm glad for her that in Bente angels do exist! I wish her all the best and I hope she will one day live the happy life she so deserves. |
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Mahanama
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 10:53 pm Post subject: May I translate the testimony into traditional Chinese? |
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| Hello, ladies and gentlemen, I am a buddhist living in Taiwan. 911 shocked me, but I was scared when the muslims, one of them was my friend, celebrated for that. It seems that muslims undertake a moral logic which is very different from ours. In Chinese world, most people don't care about religion and know nothing about Islam. So I want to translate this testimony into Chinese and post it on a forum named "U.N. of Religion". Is that OK? |
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Dan-Cannon
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Norway should fight Islam and offer places for people like Fatima, exactly for reasons like this.
Islam should be seen as an ideology to flee from, and only non-muslims should be given refuge in Western countries.
Imagine if Islam grows in Norway, and this poor woman feels threatened again.
After Theo van Gogh's murder in Holland, i've heard a story from a Dutch TV personality that his Iranian wife cried because she felt that Islam was catching up with her even in Holland.
That's why Islam needs to be made illegal in the West, to protect the refugees who fled from it in the first place.
Its no coincidence that well known apostates in the West often are much more outspoken about Islam than non-muslims.
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gupsfu
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:09 pm Post subject: Re: May I translate the testimony into traditional Chinese? |
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| Mahanama wrote: |
| Hello, ladies and gentlemen, I am a buddhist living in Taiwan. 911 shocked me, but I was scared when the muslims, one of them was my friend, celebrated for that. It seems that muslims undertake a moral logic which is very different from ours. In Chinese world, most people don't care about religion and know nothing about Islam. So I want to translate this testimony into Chinese and post it on a forum named "U.N. of Religion". Is that OK? |
Hello Mahanama, welcome to the forum.
You may also want to check out the Simplified Chinese version of FFI. There are a few introductory articles already translated. I'm sure that converting from GB to Big5 would be a lot easier than translating whole articles from English to Chinese.
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Richard_The _Lionheart
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| Dan-Cannon wrote: |
Norway should fight Islam and offer places for people like Fatima, exactly for reasons like this.
Islam should be seen as an ideology to flee from, and only non-muslims should be given refuge in Western countries.
Imagine if Islam grows in Norway, and this poor woman feels threatened again.
After Theo van Gogh's murder in Holland, i've heard a story from a Dutch TV personality that his Iranian wife cried because she felt that Islam was catching up with her even in Holland.
That's why Islam needs to be made illegal in the West, to protect the refugees who fled from it in the first place.
Its no coincidence that well known apostates in the West often are much more outspoken about Islam than non-muslims. |
These are the kind of Asylum Seekers the UK should give preference to.
This story was horrible and I bet she’s not the only girl who’s been treated this way in those countries.
But now she’s living in a country where you can have free thought.  |
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Ariel
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What an awful story. I am so sorry for this girl. Married of at 10. And to be treated this way.
It is gruesome..
I hope that one day this girl will be able to receive and give love like any other healthy woman.
Please give her my love and sympathy, and tell her I wish her all the best.
Ariel
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Omen123
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Couldnt imaging how Aisha was when Mohammad fornicated with her at 6 years old.  |
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