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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:36 am    Post subject: Buyin' sum nu buks!! Reply with quote

I've settled on the following books:
The Legacy of Jihad: Islamic Holy War and the Fate of Non-Muslims" Andrew G Bostom
What the Koran Really Says: Language, Text, and Commentary" Ibn Warraq
The Translation of the Meanings of Summarized Sahih Al-Bukhari: Arabic-English - Muhammad M. Khan
The Noble Quran - Muhammad M. Khan
Quran:The Final Testament by the late Rashad Khalifa
I've placed the order for them. I already have Spencer's P.I.G.

I would like to get these but I will wait until I need them.
Tafsir Ibn Kathir - Sheikh Muhjammad Nasib Ar-Rifa
Sahih Muslim Volumes I-IV - Imam Muslim

Yes, I know they're available on-line but I wanted paperbacks.
I couldn't get a good price on:
Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was able to find
Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq by purchasing:
The Life of Muhammad: A Translation of Ibn Ishaq's Sirat Rasul Allah
by I. Ishaq, A. Guillaume
I paid $35. I also bought everthing on my wishlist above.

I have no idea what I am in for. Or what good it will do me.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The History of al-Tabari by Abu Muhammad bin al-Tabari
also called called the Ta’rikh
It is a 39-vol. set.
ISBN:?
Author: al-Tabari/various translators
Publisher: State University of New York Press
Pages: 4700 Binding: Paperback

The best price I could find was $800 from here.
Does anyone know of a cheaper price?


I picked up:
Understanding the Hadith: The Sacred Traditions of Islam - Ram Swarup
Crossroads to Islam: The Origins of the Arab Religion and the Arab State (Islamic Studies (Amherst, N.Y.).) - Yehuda D. Nevo
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This came in the mail today:
What the Koran Really Says: Language, Text, and Commentary by Ibn Warraq

I'm a little disappointed in it. I wasn't what I wanted. I wanted a verse-by-verse exposition
on the Qur'an. What I got was a monster. It's still good reading. In my opinion by browsing
through it for 45 minutes, the title should be "How and Why the Qur'an says what it says."
It spends way too much time with Qur'anic Paleography and Textual Criticism.
Don't misunderstand me I know the Bible like any good amateur would. I know what a
Commentary is. And a Strong's ConCordance. Maybe you even heard of a Thompson Chain
Reference Bible. So I have a good head start from the totally uninitiated. But you just can't
crack open a koran and started reading with this book by your side. It's not a good first read.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was looking around on Dar-us-Salam Publications and there I discovered what seems to me to be primary sources.
Namely the following:

  • Sunnan Abu-Dawud (3 Vol. Set)
  • Riyad-us-Saliheen (2 Vol. Set)
  • Muwatta Imam Malik
  • Mishkat al-Masabih (2 Vol. Set)
  • Bulugh Al-Maram
  • Al-Lulu Wal Marjan (2 Vol. Set)
  • Commentary on the Forty Hadith of Al-Nawawi (3 Vol. Set)
  • History of Islam (3 Vol. Set) ISBN: 1591440343

Does anyone know what they are? And why they feel they should belong in my library?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My copy of Tafsir Ibn Kathir arrived in the mail. It was an evaluation copy of
the 30-vol. set by Dar-us-Salam Publications. It is incredible. The typesetting
is easy to read. And also it is not too scholarly and not too watered down
either. Liberal use of arabic etymology is in this book. It has the arabic in the
margin.

My copy was published in Aug. of '97. It is part 30 of the multi-volume set(The
last one), covering suras 78-114. Translated by Habib Badr. The set they are
selling now appears to have been translated by someone else.
The set sells for $130 on amazon.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need to update this. I would like to include titles by Patricia Crone.

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I have since found answers to my questions in the previous post.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tafsir Ibn Kathir - Sheikh Muhjammad Nasib Ar-Rifa

You can download the Tafsir Ibn Kathir here:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25620
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am here in islamia now and I plan to spend some time in islamic bookstores getting to know more about pedohero. Taqqiya here I come!!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it's been mentioned before but Why I am not a muslim is a great book.

I expected something quite weak since the title (IMO) is a little tacky, but it's actually a very impressive with book. Highly recommmended.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0879759844/104-5436944-2717509?v=glance&n=283155

Does anyone know of a book that gives proper context of the koran? I bought the book What the Koran Really Says: Language, Text, and Commentary by Ibn Warraq, but had similar feeling to lonely_soul, that is; it wasn't really what I was looking for.

Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ilovebetty wrote:
I know it's been mentioned before but Why I am not a muslim is a great book.

I expected something quite weak since the title (IMO) is a little tacky, but it's actually a very impressive with book. Highly recommmended.
I never would have bought that book until I saw it at the bookstore. Very massive. With lots of info.

Ilovebetty wrote:
Does anyone know of a book that gives proper context of the koran? I bought the book What the Koran Really Says: Language, Text, and Commentary by Ibn Warraq, but had similar feeling to lonely_soul, that is; it wasn't really what I was looking for.

Thanks in advance.
ILB
I've been looking and looking for decent commentaries on the Koran. I don't think there are any, readily available at a reasonable price. There just isn't a demand for them. Muslims read their Koran. They don't study it. In my bible study days I used Barnes Notes on the New Testament. I don't see anything like that for the Koran.

You could try to look for Richard Bell's commentary. I couldn't find it. Sayyid Qutb has one. I could live with Ibn Kathir (translated by Habib Badr) but that translation is not available anymore.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I purchased History of Islam (3 Volumes) back in June. Noble Books sold me this set.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have purchased the following since I last updated
The Early Development of Mohammedanism by Margoliouth, D. S.
Onward Muslim Soldiers: How Jihad Still Threatens America and the West...
Leaving Islam: Apostates Speak Out by Ibn Warraq
Mohammed and the Rise of Islam by Margoliouth, D. S.
Quranic Studies by John Wansbrough
Muslim Studies by Ignaz Goldziher
The Origins of the Koran: Classic Essays on Islam's Holy Book by Ibn Warraq
The Quest for the Historical Muhammad by Ibn Warraq
Mishkat-Ul-Masabih by Siddiqui, Abdul Hameed
Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir(Great Lives) by Saad, Ibn; Haq, S. Moinul
The Truth About Muhammad by Spencer
Islam and Dhimmitude: Where Civilizations Collide by Bat Yeor
The Oxford Dictionary of Islam (Oxford Paperback Reference) by John L. Esposito
New Encyclopedia of Islam by Glasse Cyril
A Dictionary of Islam by Thomas Patrick Hughes
Shamail Tirmidhi by M. Hussain
Sunan Ibn-I-Majah by Muhammad Tufail
Sunan Nasa'I: English Translation With Arabic Text
Sunan Abu Dawud : English translation (3 volume set)
Reliance of the Traveller by Ahmad Ibn Lulu Ibn Al-Naqib, Noah Ha Mim Keller
Riyad-us-Saliheen (2 Vol. Set)
Muwatta Imam Malik
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like Goldziher's book is only used now. I saw the 1st ed. of the Enlish at my uni. library. I photocopied 2 chapters as they are important to my research. I also have both of Wansbrough's books and his little Einstein lecture. The new Prometheus editions have all 3.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ibn_rushd2 wrote:
It looks like Goldziher's book is only used now. I saw the 1st ed. of the Enlish at my uni. library.
You're in luck if you click on the link I provided.
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Publisher: Aldine Transaction; New Ed edition (May 19, 2006)

There are plenty of resellers shipping it for around $30.
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