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Syinfia
Joined: 16 Oct 2008
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 Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 5:37 pm Post subject: " Raping My Wife Is a God Given Right!" |
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This is a discussion i had with a muslim
| A muslim i talked with on youtube wrote: |
Wives in islam re respected, theire precious pearls nd i will always respect my wife if she fulfills her duty as a wife
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| Syinfia wrote: |
Alright, and what's her duty toward you actually? |
| A muslim i talked with on youtube wrote: |
Im her husband nd her prtector, she has to respect me nd serve me nd i will never use my strenght against her if she is obedient. |
| Syinfia wrote: |
Use your strength against her? But...she's your wife...don't you find it disrespectful toward her, however she behaved? Did you ever "use your strength" against her?! |
| A muslim i talked with on youtube wrote: |
Yea, but please calm down, i alredy told u dat muslim womenare respected so, be sure that i do this only when necessary!
Example, i did so previous week because she refused to satisfie me.
Her only excuse was " am not in the mood right now", aint dis unbelievable?
As a good husband, i admnishd her, i spend the night at the couch insted of sleeping in the same bed, and she was still refusing the next morning! To show my anger and proofe my love, i force her to satisfy me and since that day, she never refuses. |
| Syinfia wrote: |
But you said that wives were respected! |
| A muslim i talked with on youtube wrote: |
I respect her! i have the rite to be satisfyd, and by force if i need |
| Syinfia wrote: |
So…you just raped her? To prove your love?! |
| A muslim i talked with on youtube wrote: |
i cud go out and ask another lady to satisfy me, r have athird wife! but i ask her to do so, it proves tat i care about her nd love her. Nd marital rape do not exist. If u marry a women, u mutaly agree to satisfie each other nd when u agree to do so , u have to do it too |
| Syinfia wrote: |
Yes, i know, but normally when you marry someone you take that person’s feelings in consideration, you don’t just force her if she doesn’t want to…Imagine yourself in her place, could you respond positively, everytime SHE asks to be satisfied? |
| A muslim i talked with on youtube wrote: |
IM the husband , nd not her. The hadiths specificly ask the women to obey the husband. |
| Syinfia wrote: |
Yes but some verses and hadiths ask you to be kind and not harm your wife. |
| A muslim i talked with on youtube wrote: |
Im kind to her, i buy her what she need, if don’t ask her to work, she can sty home liek she want n dim working crazily! i do so much for her, i espect her to be grateful if she really fears hell. Look how mervelous islam is, it gives both genders a role so ther is balance in a cuple in islam. When im doing all the wrk she does nothing, i provide, all she have to do is care fore the hous, clean it, obey and satisfy me all the time. Wat do u think is worse? Seeing the small work sh e do comparing to me, it is normal tat she shows her gratefulness! The hadiths say tat woman get curse when they refuse, not men, so the satisfaction of the husband is important for Allah, when i force her satisfing me, i ask her to fulfill her wive duty, so there is nothing wrong, it is my God-given right after all! |
He (the muslim) was a pretty good friend, i mean, he seemed to be a “normal” person before i knew that he was muslim and that we started to talk about islam, so what he said just shocked me! I think that after this , i can understand how and why women in Islamic countries suffer so much. ! Knowing that there are thousands of men with the same mentality in this world is just …scary…so, well i posted this just because it shocked me it made me want to share this with you guys :/
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ygalg
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this mentality exist in any man with stuffed ego.
with support of the law, it becomes unbridled. in this case islamic one.
in countries where the law recognize it to be a crime, the perpetrator if gets caught penalized if proven guilty.
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Nymph
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Can you imagine what her life is like? Knowing this is the plight of women all over Muslim world?
And notice, he says he could get a THIRD wife. Yes, somehow, men's "satisfaction" is very important to allah/mohammed.
Can you imagine hurting your partner like this? Violating her or him against their will? Esp. women because in Islam, they can't divorce or even leave the house by themselves.
Women are the blacks of Islam. I suggest we start an underground railroad!
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sword_of_truth
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| Esp. women because in Islam, they can't divorce or even leave the house by themselves. |
I always cringe a little when people make those blanket statements. Some women in Islam. Before you accuse me of being too soft or nit-picky, I just worry that if everyone talks that way muslims will find it harder to take the criticism. They'll find it hard to take no matter what, but unnessecary obstacles should not be put in the way. A lot of muslim women are doing just fine. Let's not forget that.
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| Women are the blacks of Islam. I suggest we start an underground railroad! |
No, I would say that apostates are the blacks of Islam. And I wish we could have some kind of underground railroad for them. |
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Nymph
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| Esp. women because in Islam, they can't divorce or even leave the house by themselves. |
I always cringe a little when people make those blanket statements. Some women in Islam. Before you accuse me of being too soft or nit-picky, I just worry that if everyone talks that way muslims will find it harder to take the criticism. They'll find it hard to take no matter what, but unnessecary obstacles should not be put in the way. A lot of muslim women are doing just fine. Let's not forget that. |
Good point.
However, my compassion is always strongest for those who have it worse, and it is a slippery slope- from extreme oppression to just automatically being considered inferior.
[quote=Nymph]Women are the blacks of Islam. I suggest we start an underground railroad![/quote]
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| [quote=sword_of_truth]No, I would say that apostates are the blacks of Islam. And I wish we could have some kind of underground railroad for them. |
This is also a good point.
In the case of women, in some places they would not be able to leave legally, while men, if they can afford it, have an easier time starting a new life elsewhere.
PS No offense to black people anywhere, this was meant as a point to illustrate unfairness, not to promote any kind of racism.
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katlike
Joined: 28 Mar 2005
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That is a very sobering discussing. Thank you for posting it Syinfia.
It is easy to dismiss muslimas, after all, they are stupid enough to put up with it. What are your choices? Be forever grateful to someone who gets to leave the house everyday and make choices to where they go, give up your self respect and submit because they get to leave the house based on gender. Know your life's work will never, ever really count because the thought is
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| "When im doing all the wrk she does nothing, i provide, all she have to do is care fore the house, clean it, obey and satisfy me all the time. Wat do u think is worse? Seeing the small work sh e do comparing to me, it is normal tat she shows her gratefulness!" |
She does nothing but care for the house...? How demeaning and disrespectful is that statement? Even more so to the women who take immense pride in keeping house. What? They do nothing but care for his house? So they will go to hell (emotional terroism) if they don't lay down and spread their legs like a donkey at his baying? That really pisses me off.
Here is a word of advice to all you young men out there. Nothing is sexier to a woman than a man who has just done the dishes, or bathed the kids and put them to bed, or folded the laundry and then came up from behind and given us ladies a kiss and a hug. Minus a medical condition or very bad day, it will get you all the sex you could want, each and everytime. This is 20 years married life, for better or worse, experience talking. Your so called friend is a barbarian. His lack of respect for women is screaming at all of us.
I haven't even touched on the "I will get either a third wife or a whore if you continue on your evil ways" statement.
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Blue
Joined: 21 Jan 2005
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Another word of advice to these men. Something you may not know yet... nothing is more of a turn on for you than a woman who is turned on and wants to do it. When you have that, you're one lucky guy and you will be grateful for what you have.
When a woman doesn't want it, big damper for you (unless you're a rapist and get off on that). |
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FinallyFree
Joined: 30 Sep 2008
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Ya Allah! This made me sick to the stomach!
Of course, I wasn't surprised.
This is typical male dominance, it can be found in many cultures, even (but rarely) in the west at times with some abusive husbands.
Although, while it happens across the board, Islam helps fuel this, Islam gave men a justification for this and brought it out in men.
IMO Islam brings out the worst in Humans, of course humanity has a lot of negative characteristics, but Islam is the embodiment of the traditional view of Satan, the character who allows men to become monsters and brings out the worst in man.
Also, Islam has no respect for marriage whatsoever. Obviously any creed-that allows a man to have 4 wives (especially when there are more women than men in the world) and allows divorce at the saying of a word three times, and of course allows a man to recuparate so easily yet for a woman, divorce is the end of her social life, friends, respect and honour-is a satanic creed.
Let us destroy this evil and hate quickly my friends. |
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