Is Allah telling us...

[EmperorJ666]

shindeiru got banned for trolling, so how can we even trust that he/she even made a refutation post? Maybe shindeiru is just trying to get attention and try to make people look bad because he/she is a foolish muslim.
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[sword_of_truth]

He did make a refutation post.

I didn't read it very carefully. I didn't expect it to be deleted.

It was full of insults and ad hominim attacks, of course.

But I don't know why it was deleted. It does seem fishy to me.

The way I see it is that there are two options: the Quran made an error or it didn't.

It makes more sense that the Quran made an error. There is no need for proof, one option just has to be more plausible than the other.

In the event that the Quran is not in error and means something else, Allah has made it LOOK like there is an error. Since Allah is all-knowing, he did this intentionally. Making him just that much more of a jerk for threatening everyone with hell if they don't believe what he wrote about himself in his best-selling book.

[Musti]

[Mullah Rock N Roll]

[Musti]

[sword_of_truth]

Only a real muslim can answer.

The triumph of this thread was that no muslim answered. But after this business, we can only say no muslim answered in a satisfactory way.

[Mullah Rock N Roll]

[Musti]

[Ex-muslimah]

OK, so the mossies have the following:

1/ The sun sets into the sea
2/ The sky is a canopy
3/ The earth is flat

1/ It's the movement of the earth!!!
2/ Canopy? huh?
3/ This one has to evoke the biggest laughs! since even on Islamic channels they show NASA pictures of earth and that is the strangest looking flat earth I have ever seen. While I am at it, space isn't flat either!
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[yeezevee]

There are smart MUSLIMS who convert IRRATIONAL STUPID OXYMORON STATEMENTS in to Hidden Science in Q'uran..and one of them is that TURKEY...

http://www.harunyahya.com/generalknowledge14.php
http://www.harunyahya.com/generalknowledge24.php

with best
yeezevee

[Lava Lamp]

Hey, I was just thinking...you know what would really solidify this? If we had evidence that Arabians believed prior to or after Islam that the sky was solid.

Is there any?

[Ex-muslimah]

if anything, I think they believed in astrology of all things
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[Musti]

[Lava Lamp]

Apparently, all of the ancient cultures in Arabia thought that the sky was solid. For example, the Babylonians certainly thought that the sky was solid. In Tablet IV of Enuma Elish, the Babylonian creation tale, after the god Marduk, having killed Tiamat, "split her in half like a shellfish, and from one half made and covered the heavens." Or, as Heidel translated the passage, with half of Tiamat Marduk "formed the sky as a roof". The sky's solidity is also attested to in Tablet V:9-11 , where Marduk "opened gates on both sides" of the sky so that the sun could pass through morning and evening.
The Hittites, who’s territory included modern Lebanon, also believed in a solid sky, as one of their recovered texts speaks of when they “severed the heaven with the earth with a cleaver”. The Egyptians believed the sky was made of metal, and the god Shu’s right arm held it up.

More could probably be listed, but you get the picture.
I don't see how they thought that, though...it doesn't look solid to me...but that's probably just because I've been thinking of it as a non-object my whole life.

[Musti]